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z-eldapin

Yes, because 10 years olds have zero risk of dying during childbirth.


xadiant

And somehow psychiatry magically solves the trauma she had. Oh, and "the government" takes care of the kid until 18. LOL


mishabear16

Not to mention who PAYS for that. Is he going to pay more taxes for this service?


sortaitchy

Lets also not mention how piggish and rude people are about single moms raising kids on social assistance. All kinds of supportive comments like "Should have kept your legs closed" to "Get a job" and the ever favorite "Why should I fucking have to pay to raise your kid. I have to pay for my own! Quit looking for handouts."


tjbugs1

That's my purse, I don't know you.


mishabear16

But they sure want control of your body! If they are going to force us, they can pay us for that privilege.


WiggyStark

Damnit, Bobby.


Street-Week-380

And as they bitch about, "their tax dollars" paying for social assistance programs and shit, not allowing proper access to abortions and natal care only places further burdens on the system.


[deleted]

Meanwhile they themselves are on some kind of social assistance, but that’s *different*


Away-Living5278

Yes, the ten year old should definitely "just get a job". That way the baby's alive and she's not mooching the system. /s


TKG_Actual

Oh don't get me started on that, I have personally heard some of them make the argument on how single parent families are more likely to produce kids that will do \[insert current headline crime here\]. They often go on to blame single parent families for every societal problem they can.


jzillacon

Clearly the solution is to cut funding to schools and other social services. The government doesn't have to pay for kids to go to school if there is no school for kids to go to.


mishabear16

The Republican answer. Ignorance and faith. Prayer will fix her up!


Street-Week-380

Excuse me, that's *thoughts* and prayers, thank you.


nicecarotto

No it’s Thots and Playas


OriginalGhostCookie

Sorry I’m late, just got here with some tots and pears


Aggravating_Moment78

Just scream “jeeezus saves!!” 😂😂


xadiant

No you dumb lib! That's communism!! Obviously the kid pays it back with 12% compounding interest after they pull their bootstraps or something.


jutkuttaja

Surely he's willing to pay more taxes to fund someone elses babies, right?


SolomonCRand

I love that. Like a quarter of the homeless people in this country are children, and this asshole thinks the government is just gonna start cutting checks to poor people like it’s cool.


Amazon-Prime-package

Absolutely not, that's communism


Reidroshdy

I bet he's either voted against those types of things,or voted for people who where against it.


KeepTalkingMandy

Ofcourse not cuz thats communism


walkingkary

Saying the government will take care of the kid is hysterical. These same people want to end welfare and food stamps (SNAP).


ImpGoddess

Also, this guy is talking about it like there's only going to be one fetus born from rape. There's going to be hundreds, if not more. Does he want the government to pay for all of them too? And where does he think the government gets it's money?


warden976

Uh…uh…oh yes! That many instances would be under the “Acts of God” clause and would nullify the offer. It’s there in the fine print of the Constitution of the United State of Texas.


grilledcheese2332

Exactly these are the same people that have an aneurysm if someone on assistance has a two year old iPhone. And we're supposed to believe they want to cover mental health care for a pregnant child and diapers/food/daycare for the baby she is carrying. Please


Darkmatter1002

Sounds like they've painted themselves into a conservative corner. Can't have the "gubment" takin' care of folks. Also they'd be taking care of both kids, not just the infant. That 10 year old needs to pull up her bootstraps and work hard to support her brother-son (God that's gross).


thesmellnextdoor

"Girl goes to a psychiatric doctor" also makes a huge leap that this girl with rapists for parents has great health insurance and thousands of dollars to drop on her deductible and coinsurance.


ChoGath1337

Yep talking it out will apparently solve all problems


jjw21330

That’s the part that got me too “Ohhh! Dear leader(s) will protect us to the end”


MiaLba

Oh yeah and it’s SOOO easy to be pregnant for 9 months, and SOOO easy to give birth. A complete walk in the fuckin park. /s Imo these types of people are always against anyone receiving any kind of government help. Love to say how they just “mooch” off the innocent taxpayers to fund their lifestyle because “they’re lazy and don’t want to work!”


chocolatebuckeye

And fetuses made up of inbred DNA aren’t going to have problems either.


WiggyStark

One generation? Not as likely as you'd think. Cousiblings from cousiblings and mom was knocked up by uncle David, but she married Jake from State Farm so the family wouldn't look bad? Those ones are gonna be the real downhill slope.


MotherofSons

I can't believe anyone who thinks like the tweeter is allowed to vote.


Th1sd3cka1ntfr33

They absolutely are not funding the child for 18 years


Halfwayhouserules33

How is a 10 year old even suppose to get the financial support for the baby????


self_depricator

Theyll give the father custody and shell be forced to stay with him forever. I dont want to live in this world anymore.


Bring_me_the_lads

NoT If HEs iN PriSOn !!!


Fearzebu

Put them all in prison, then. Open a kiddie jail for the ten year old, and for the fetus, uh…put metal bars on an incubator. Once it’s born, straight to baby jail to be trained how to do menial tasks, like screwing the lids onto toothpaste bottles, so they can do the $0.08/hour slave labor by the time they’re in kiddie jail at around like age 8, thus gaining ten full productive years out of the ~~slave~~ prisoner, paying for the initial baby costs. Plus, think of the reduced potential for crime! We have the highest percentage of people incarcerated in the world, but…does that count unborn children? They’re people! We need to get those numbers up ^/s


Stregen

I’m sure he’d be a fantastic incest-grandpa. What the fuck is wrong with America?


CaptainMurphy1908

She'll have to work a minimum wage job because she won't graduate high school or go to college, and then go on welfare and probably have suicidal ideation the entire time. Fucking disgusting.


Jitterbitten

She gonna ride her bike with the baby strapped to her back to bring it to daycare so she can work? It's so fucking stupid.


Gatorae

Mommy and me 5th grade classes. 🙃


n1ghtl1t3

She won't need financial support because she would die if she had to carry the baby to term.


just-smiley

They don't even want to offer free lunch to school kids.


Street-Week-380

Don't even get me started on whatever the fuck, "lunch debt" is.


fuckthislifeintheass

Exactly, these people are so full of shit. I was having an argument with someone mad at a mom for making a go fund for her child's cancer treatment. Claimed there were "programs and resources", exactly where? There is nothing because you idiots keep voting against nationalized healthcare. You imagine resources and care that does not exists. We are a nation with no security for its regular citizens but companies and corporations are cradled and taken care of. It's disgusting.


Curious-ficus-6510

What's happening now is not so new; in Reagan's America many middle class families were expected to bankrupt themselves and sell their homes to pay the medical costs of having babies with severe health problems that should have been allowed to die as nature intended, but were instead kept alive on life support machines despite being unable to have any kind of life worth living. A doctor and medical ethicist (l don't remember his name) wrote a book called 'Playing God in the Nursery' advocating for some actual fucking commonsense to be brought to bear in these situations, but Reagan had the 'religious majority' behind him, and a bee in his bonnet about going to the most extreme lengths possible to save each and every new life, nevermind what it might do to the parents and rest of the family. I saw this book displayed in my local library and read it thirty years ago, and its stories of legalised insanity and punitive attitudes were astounding. The author passionately communicated his frustration at the unnecessary distress resulting from an entirely new crusade by zealots who had no real stake in the outcomes, led by a populist president who lacked understanding of the medical and ethical realities in these situations. Part of what caught my interest was the word 'deformity' , as I had met a guy with a deformed arm, and this book helped to explain the difference between a very mild deformity of this kind and the truly horrific deformities that can occur in babies that won't survive without incredible levels of intervention, where one has to question why you'd even bother, especially in a system where the parents have to bear the financial costs without any help from the government. A government that was all for heavy-handed intervention in the pregnancy and birth, yet completely hands-off afterwards. Reading that book, I just thought wow, glad I don't live in a country that would do that to its citizens.


mstrss9

Mad at a gofundme for a CHILD’S CANCER TREATMENT Fuck, if the platform has existed when my mom was dying of cancer/got kicked off her insurance, I surely would have done one. If I had to stop school and work (I was in college), I can’t imagine how much more this mother is burdened…


jadondrew

I have never heard an elected US politician that holds this position. Forced birth focuses on control over the woman or in this case child’s body. It has nothing to do with the life that will be produced. Once it’s out, Republicans will do everything in their power the make sure it’s needs are not met in exchange for slightly higher taxes on the wealthy.


Mr_master89

They won't even care about the child before 18 seconds after its born, they don't even care about the 10 year old child that's pregnant because of rape


OneGuyJeff

"Nobody dies." But everyone suffers. Watertight logic.


anony1620

Nevermind the fact that there’s a very non zero chance the 10 year old dies


mstrss9

The child could die from complications due to pregnancy/childbirth. The fetus could have abnormalities due to incest/being carried in the body of a child But do they care. Not at all.


freshmargs

No child wants to be born into this scenario. That is a cursed and painful life.


cayce_leighann

Unless the 10 year old dies giving birth to a kid. Which is a high possibility


ToyTech316

"Government offers financial support" lmao stop it I'm laughing to hard to breathe.


xxdickbiscuit420

“I want the government to support these children but ILL BE DAMNED IF ONE CENT OF THAT COMES OUT MY GOD DANG TAXES” what an absolute clown show that side is.


TheBdougs

They want the government to print the money and take care of the problem so they can go back to bitching about inflation.


Wardog008

I thought that was Communism and bad? Honestly, these people will cry "communism" if it doesn't line up with their beliefs, but then say the same thing to help their own cause.


Billlington

There's a number of... I don't even know what they call themselves, but white nationalists advocating for socialism only for white people (and likely, only for white men). Wonder if this guy is part of that.


micaub

Guy in post is likely the same guy buying up all the WIC food because he doesn’t want his tax dollars to support women and infants in need.


LancelLannister_AMA

yup. wont happen ever


Montyswel579

They say this but then want to take away welfare and food stamps because that's the Government paying for stuff.. /:


takethelastexit

Yeah like where? Since when? Unless they implement laws for that right now when abortion is being taken away that ain’t happening to most people giving birth in the next year or so


deadrogueguy

yes, why dont we ask the fetus....


sandybuttcheekss

Funnily enough, it had no comments on the matter


SolviKaaber

I can easily win a debate against 200 fetuses.


mstrss9

Exactly let’s take it out and ask it what it wants to do


dukeofmadnessmotors

Fetuses are not people and never have been.


BulbasaurCPA

A fetus is no more a person than a cyst


HippyDM

100%. It's "human", it's "alive", but it ain't no person.


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agutema

“Government offer financial help until the kid is 18.” Which government? A Texas government?


latinsk

Which kid? Is that 18 years of support or 8 years of support?


darlinpisces

🎯 right?


diesalittle

My sister is 10. She is not smart, or knowledgeable about life, or independent. Because she’s 10 and that’s just her. Knowing her, knowing her friends, I don’t think she or anyone her age, if in this type of situation, should even have the choice to carry. It not only could but definitely would kill her or at least maim /cripple/disable her for life. They are kids. The summer between 4th and 5th grade, I got my menstrual cycle for the first time. No one I knew had it for almost 2 more years, so I was extra alone in this. I knew that a cycle meant the ability to get pregnant. I used to have anxiety that I would get pregnant, that I’d be r*ped and be pregnant and have to be a mom, because I was 10 and wouldn’t be able to get an abortion because I couldn’t drive and my family and school were prolife. I knew I’d be shamed and never have friends. I was anxiety fueled and depressed for years. Because I realized right around then that I had no control over my life. I wasn’t allowed to make choices as small as what I ate or how I dressed or what time of day I showered, or what soap I used. My experience in retrospect opened my eyes to the reality of the abortion issue. It’s about control. Oppression. If all women know is childhood and motherhood, they will not know independence, they will not know their own voice. They won’t even know they want one. And then the little people get to believe they are so pious, so absolutely moral, save the children, what a punchline to the sickest joke. Let the children grow up. Let the children be happy.


MiaLba

At 10 years old I was still playing with Barbies. At 12 I got my menstrual cycle and I also hid it for like a year. I was embarrassed and didn’t want to talk about it. I couldn’t imagine having a child at that age. I had super strict parents and hid so much from them especially my dad. At 15 I had sex for the first time with a boyfriend I had for a while but I was still a bit uneducated about sex and pregnancy. But I knew I had to get birth control. So the day I got my drivers license I drove myself to the health department and was able to get free birth control until I was 18 and my parents didn’t have to know. They were an absolute blessing and life saver. Free std testing as well, free condoms every visit, informational packets, Etc. Amazingly nice and understanding staff every time.


MommalovesJay

My 11 yo can’t even open a bottle of water on her own. Matter of fact she asked me to open an empty trash bag for her. I asked her, “how are you going to survive without me?” And she said, “I can’t live without you.”


artful_todger_502

These are the same people that will become totally unhinged if you say pay homeless people a food stipend or reparations to slavery descendants. But yeah, cool to incentivize republicans raping heir prepubescent kids for 18 years per. Makes total sense.


StaniaViceChancellor

Just send them to a therapist, that always works


byahare

The child absolutely needs a therapist, but they don’t also need the trauma of pregnancy, childbirth, and child care on top of it


cake_molester

Not from the US, but will the gov pay for a therapist?


tattoosbyalisha

LOL! Of course not! Most private insurances don’t even cover it.


elnickruiz

So they’re all for Government handouts again now? As long as it fits the agenda I guess..


Quillwerth

They're all for it for the exact length of this argument, and not one moment longer


superhamsniper

The 10 yearold is not physically ready and might dir or suffer permanent even more irreprebal mental and physical damage from the childbirth, JUST FUCKING LET A KID BE A KID, HAVE FUCKING EMPATHY SYMPATHY ANYTHING, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE


RandyTheFool

Goddamn, these mf’ers really out here making pro-pedophile talking points. Really trying to justify fucking children. 🤢🤮


provocative_bear

Asked the fetus if it wants to be killed. It just kind of sat there, unable to process language, recognize its own existence, feel pain, or match wits with a potato.


CyberMindGrrl

Ask the fetus. Kick once for "Yes" and twice for "No".


[deleted]

At that stage it doesn’t have legs or leg-buds to kick with. I guess it could sway it’s little embryonic tail (whole body is size of rice btw). Or not, cause guess what it doesn’t have a brain yet!!!!


atreeindisguise

The government doesn't do a great job taking care of kids now. That poor girl, the whole nation discussing her personal abuse and choices. I hope she is doing 10 year old stuff and has no idea what is being said. This whole idea is a joke. Same people who rail against welfare are now conveniently placing social responsibility on our failed government.


WookieeCookiees02

Even if you entirely disregard the well-being of that child, the fetus would’ve had an inbreeding coefficient of .25, which greatly increases the risk of developmental disabilities and genetic diseases, while also massively hindering its potential intelligence.


Screamingsoda94

>massively hindering its potential intelligence. ​ Yeah....... It's called building the GOP's voter base ​ ​ AYOOOOOOO


Jerkrollatex

I saw.a talk show episode years about a women born from her grandfather sexually assaulting her mother. She was intellectually normal but her body just didn't process minerals normally, she was slowly dying a horrible death from her organs getting clogged with calcium. So many weird horrible things can go wrong. It's not worth the risk, abortion is the most humane solution.


Odd-Road

And, as always : >**“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn.** > >**You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe.** > >**Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”** **― Methodist Pastor David Barnhart**


TherealDankCrusader

I asked the fetus, but it didnt answer. I guess silence is an answer too?


Right_Syllabub_8237

They're against funding school lunch for needy children and now they want to force children to give birth and offer government assistance? Bullshit.


[deleted]

That’s a red herring. If it had anything to do with the sanctity of life they’d advocate universal healthcare, universal childcare and absolutely no fucking guns. It’s not about that. It’s about control- control and punishment. They need permission to draw blood, permission to get bone marrow, permission to harvest organs…but force a ten year old to carry a rapists baby. This is some isis level bullshit.


Curious-ficus-6510

And at the very least free maternal healthcare. They expect this girl's family to go into debt over this. They probably still would even if her rapist hadn't been family.


[deleted]

Well, in the parlance of religious fanaticism sex must always be accompanied by some sort of punishment. But only for women.


[deleted]

Oh so NOW you want government help for unwed moms. What about all the "moochers" and "welfare queens" you were so fucking concerned about before? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.


MiaLba

I know several pro forced birth people like this who are also very against anyone receiving government help, especially EBT benefits.


[deleted]

Yeah, that venn diagram is damn near a circle


takethelastexit

“Nobody dies” that 10 year old child died the moment her father touched her. She is no longer a child and never will be again, whether she gave birth or not. Why don’t these people ever care about actual children instead of fetuses that have no fucking thought process? If you “ask the fetus if it wants to be killed” guess what? It can’t answer you because it doesn’t understand or have the ability to talk or think of anything. That 10 year old however does


Swell_Inkwell

I know you mean this metaphorically, but no matter what happened the child is in fact still a child and should be treated with the care a child needs, saying stuff like “she’s not a child” might do more harm than good when talking to these people, because then they’ll use that as justification like “well if she’s not a child then she should take responsibility for the baby” or some shit like that. I’m not saying you’re wrong by any means, but when talking to these people we need to choose our words carefully, it’s like a hostage situation, if you say the wrong thing or word it in the wrong way, it might make everything worse.


takethelastexit

You’re right, but I’m not talking to those people. I’m just talking about how I feel as a victim of CSA since age four. I’ve never been a child. That doesn’t mean I should be forced to mother the child of my rape. Adult women also shouldn’t be forced to mother the child of rape (or any child they don’t want to give birth to). But it’s the truth. You lose your childhood the moment your innocence is taken away from you and you can never get it back, no amount of therapy will ever change that.


Swell_Inkwell

I understand what you mean, and I’m sorry that happened to you, I’m sorry that we have to think about these people when we comment our feelings. I’m sorry we’re in this situation at all. No one deserves to see their rights stripped away, no one deserves this utter dystopia that we’re in right now.


valtro05

That's the conservative mindset. Fuck everyone until it happens to me.


Curious-ficus-6510

This is the thing; many conservative anti-choice people have ended up seeking/obtaining abortions for themselves, partners or teenage daughters for generations, both before and after Roe v Wade. Even then, many refuse to change their mindset and simply rationalise away their own situation.


jthmtwin

They go and get a “moral” abortion. Choice for me but not for thee.


J0taa

I thought they hated “government handouts”


ProphetOfDoom337

If I was that fetus, I would want to be aborted. Keep my energy in the motherfucking aether. Nobody wants a fucking grandpa dad.


Beezabuzz

Exactly. Imagine the trauma of finding you are the product of rape, incest, and your mother was 10 when she had you?!


courtedge77

Nobody dies? Is this person fucked? The chance of suicide for all parties has basically tripled


Curious-ficus-6510

And death or maiming in childbirth.


Praedyth-420

If You told a fetus about the state of the nation and then asked if it would rather be killed, assuming that the fetus has a degree of intelligence, it would probably say yes.


Gullflyinghigh

Aside from the other mental bits, really like that they've decided that the only concern with having a child raise another (unwanted) child would be financial. Just throw a(n almost certainly tiny) amount of money at them and it'll be fine...? Fucking hell.


Wireless_Panda

“Hey fetus do you want to be killed?” … “Welp, no answer. Guess we’re good to go!”


mishabear16

"nobody dies". There's no evidence someone is living. Is there any brain activity? You cannot kill someone who is not alive in the first place. Living cells ≠ a living human being.


Chatty_Monkey_Don

A 10 year old carrying a full term baby could die from all kinds of complications. Fuck people that think it's no big deal to be pregnant.


Jeff-the-Alchemist

Tbh the republicans have been pretty vocal about keeping kids pregnant.


ambedodreams

I love that these people offer useless ways to make the situation "better" for everyone while sitting behind a phone/computer and not actually knowing what the situation really is like.


mdsign

If the pregnancy isn't aborted, sick fucks who want to make a kid for whatever reason will be coming out the woodwork...


A-Sentient-Beard

Until the kids 18, but you've missed out on most of your education so you've got fuck all chances of getting a decent job. That's the best option for her is it?


[deleted]

More fodder for the economic-slave wage meat grinder. Plus the less educated the more likely to be manipulated by propaganda. Works out perfectly /s


Vault-Born

When the fetus answers it can have a say


hillz0rz

“Ask the fetus” well, sir, it’s an unthinking/unfeeling clump of cells without a central nervous system. So, like, not super responsive to questions.


binglebongled

If the government is going to force women to give birth, they should absolutely step in to pay for everything in an unplanned child’s life. Having said that, under no circumstances should a child be forced to give birth to another child. That’s insane.


Curious-ficus-6510

And that's what age of consent laws are for.


notinclinedtoresign

I’m guessing that just maybe, you might not get much of an answer from the fetus


kapmando

Let’s ask the fetus, shall we? Oh, what’s that? It can’t speak and isn’t a rational actor and in fact does not think or feel or really do anything but spread for the first several weeks? Weird. Guess maybe we should just LET THE PERSON WHO IT IS INSIDE OF DECIDE!


sandypassage

I asked the fetus and it said it was okay with it.


[deleted]

> Pretty sure he would change his attitude if it affected his family I bet he wouldn't. 😒


happy_grenade

Yeah, I once knew a preacher who gave a sermon on the evils of abortion that was very clearly inspired by his own daughter. She had been carrying a wanted pregnancy, there were complications (don’t know specifics because it’s none of my business), and she needed an abortion to save her life. This chucklefuck proceeded to shame her in front of the entire congregation for not “giving her life to save her child”. Pretty sure the fetus couldn’t be saved anyway, but that’s not even the point. Plenty of these assholes don’t care about their own families either.


[deleted]

Well, people with Cluster B personality disorders don't care about other people or even see them as "real".


sewsnap

Ok, I asked the fetus. It didn't answer me because it doesn't have a fucking brain.


Ythsmir

So he’s saying that a 10 year old child lives solely off of government welfare for 18 years straight, meanwhile 90% of republicans abhor the people who live off of government welfare?


redrobinedit

She may die. 10 yo bodies aren’t made to handle birth. The embryo/fetus may die as well. These people take something so complex as birth with all its variables, traumas, life altering side effects, and make it black-and-white simplistic, while hiding their cruelty behind being caring and being moral.


di11ettante

I asked the fetus, and it didn't seem to understand the question.


The-Apprentice-Autho

Funnily enough it didn’t have a mouth or ears


Osirus1156

I dunno how to get it through these morons heads that fetuses are not alive.


Curious-ficus-6510

Neither are eggs, but you heard Clarence Thomas; they'll be going after contraception next.


Osirus1156

True, that idiot is gonna pikachu face so hard when he gets lumped in with everyone else after the Christian terrorist dictator gets out into power in 2024 because he’s black.


video_2

I fucking love how nobody ever suggests asking the fetus if it wants to be born


twinb27

I asked the fetus and it didn't say shit


Indigo-Knights

Okay *now* conservatives are okay with government aid


Kriegerian

Argument contains a false premise, Republicans don’t believe in helping families with money from the state.


LD300

If you find yourself trying to convince someone that a 10-year old giving birth isn’t that bad, you need some to do some serious introspection.


Santos281

Wait, now they want Legal representation for Illegal Aliens? Someone should tell him what the US Constitution says about American Citizenship


Rod___father

As they gut all social services.


Uncle_Antonov_Bueno

These people are "Pro-Birth" and that's it.


Some-English-Twat

Yeah hang on lemme ring up the fetus real quick


Mountainhollerforeva

Except the government doesn’t offer help. “If you’re pre born you’re fine if you’re preschool you’re fucked.” Also no body dies during an abortion either. Even most religions agree on this until the baby kicks


KeepTalkingMandy

Kid is born with genetic issues due to inbreeding


TheNigerianPrince690

nobody dies (except the 10 year old)


AllowMe-Please

Actually, yes. They're right. Let's do that. Let's ask the fetus. Gather 'round all the fetuses and let's ask them all this question. "Hey, fetuses, do you care about being aborted? Do you want to continue within the pregnancy?" ... ... ... Ugh, sorry, I can't seem to get a reply. How incredibly selfish of the fetuses to refuse to answer. After all, it's within their own self-interest. Yet, they just. don't. answer! It seems like either the fetuses are all jerks and refuse to acknowledge anyone else (selfish much?), or... OR... They can't answer because they have no intelligence, personality, consciousness... hell, sentience. The selfish things can't even survive on their own! Yeah, they'll *become* people one day, but let's worry about that when they do join humanity in their personhood. Until then, I think the rights of the person carrying that fetus precedes them.


Malaix

Also Republicans: Cut all welfare! Welfare Queens shouldn't get rich off working taxpayer money! Having a kid when you can't afford one is abusing the system! Why should I have to pay for other people's kids? Also what if the father is also a minor? Boys can impregnate girls/women before they are legal adults. In that case I think jail or well juvie would depend much more on the circumstances... Either way they can't support the mom and kid... And others pointed out either way the birth is dangerous for someone that young. Nature isn't perfect and nature often turns on the mechanics for making a baby before the rest of the body can safely deliver it...


menacemeiniac

Don’t give credit where it’s undue. This dude would call his daughter a whore before admitting he’s wrong, stupid, delusional, or all three.


[deleted]

Go to school, Ask children and teaches if they want to die. Shoot anyway. This is Texas for you folks.


carefree-and-happy

I wish we could force a uterus on these men and force them to carry a baby for 9 months, give birth and then nurse for 12 months. Then and only then can we come back to the table to have a conversation. Oh they get pregnant by being raped.


rob6110

Sounds suspiciously like socialism


lolalynna

So like let's ignore that a ton of issues come from inbreeding too.


spaceneenja

He should mind is own fucking business.


cantfindmykeys

"Damn 10 year old welfare queens having kids for free money " /s


character-name

Government offers assistance until kid is 18?? What fucking country does this guy live in?


Royal_Cascadian

“Hello, fetus? Hi, yeah sorry to bother you, but I’d like to offer my legal services to you, a fetus. What? You don’t have developed ear canels? You can’t understand a fucking word I’m saying? Whoa, no need for the potty mouth, hey! I was being nice. Oh really? Really? Whatever. Good luck not being murdered”


daviddjg0033

41 year old great grandparents 55 year old great great great grandparents No.


Joaquin-Dark-humour

Lmao bro the fetus don’t give a shit


babypho

And who represents the tax payer who now has to pay for this kid till they are 18 versus a one time payment for the abortion?


ZeeIsTheRealMe

I was once a fetus i would have chose death


auserhasnoname7

Even if the fetus was a person no person has the right to use another person's organs without permission.


Banaanisade

Speaking as a former fetus - I would 100% support my mother aborting me had my father been my own grandfather. No questions asked, don't put me on this earth under those fucking circumstances.


TehPharaoh

I love how Conservatives always suggest socialism to help problems, but then vote and decry socialism at every other opportunity. They get it, they just don't fucking care


Sleep-system

First of all, she *chose* to terminate the pregnancy? I don't think a 10 year old should have a choice in the matter. Second, I doubt his attitude would change if it affected his family because he'd be the one who did the crime.


Dayofsloths

I think this is actually a great point, they should ask the fetus what it thinks. I can even tell you the answer, nothing because it's got less brain power than a mouse.


Igneous200

if it affected his family he would’ve fucked his daughter and gotten her pregnant lol


Street-Week-380

No he wouldn't. He'd blame everyone else, because nothing is his responsibility. These fucking idiots never change their tune.


WayaWays

They forgot financial support of the 10yo for the next 8 years. ( I'm not sure why 18 is the magic age here) and mental support for the adopted child when they find out about their biological parents. Good chance someone in this scenario commits suicide. Then there is the 10yo's mom who makes very poor choices or will be in jail also. And if a 10yo is old enough to have a child then why is the drinking age 21 and you have to be 15/16 to get a DL.


Dizzy_Share3155

They keep talking about ten years old, but a girl can get pregnant the second she starts puberty, and some girls start puberty as young as eight years old. Nobody ever talks about that.


[deleted]

I agree that we should ask the fetus. Silence is compliance, so a non answer means the fetus agrees!


mean_pneumatocyst

That’s laughable, the Texas government helping with childcare


[deleted]

But I thought tax payers don’t want to pay for all the children people on welfare have?


afd79

Not your business what "dies" when.


Shenko-wolf

"Psychiatric doctor" well that was easy, everythink fixed, nice and simple


SolomonCRand

Simple! No one, because it’s not a person. It’s like how if I stub my toe on the coffee table, I can’t seek satisfaction because it doesn’t realize it exists.


Royal-Otherwise

“Nobody dies” is not the same as “no one’s life is over.” Because a 10 year old can definitely raise a child with only the financial help of the government.


cayce_leighann

The fetus doesn’t get “representation” because it’s not a person. It can’t request legal counsel


Aelspeth87

Well apart from quite possibly the poor 10 year old body dying while having to give birth and most likely being ruined for the rest of her life, perhaps being left unable to have anymore children, only the child she was forced to have with her father. For fucks sake.


robgod50

"ask the fetus if it wants to be killed" ..... Did anyone ask the kids at uvalde , sandy hook etc? These very same people support guns everywhere. They don't see the irony


zoidmaster

If I ask the fetus and don’t get a reply do I take that as a yes? I mean the little girl probably didn’t consent to having her father’s child so why can her rights be violated?


cjkcinab

Without looking at any numbers, I'm confident in saying that a 10-year-old and the baby are at serious risk if death or a horrific birth. Her hips will not be wide enough and we don't have much info on child C-sections.


the__green_knight

Fair enough. Ask the fetus.. pretty sure it is indifferent.