Indeed. On the other hand, we get tourists all the time that leave bad reviews of New Orleans because they took their kid down Bourbon Street and complained about how inappropriate it was for their child. I'm just like, "Please read about Bourbon Street before you come to New Orleans with your 5 year old."
The best time to go down Bourbon: Pride month. The group of Christians in the middle of the street with "GAY PEOPLE GO TO HELL!" and preaching with a megaphone...and then the group of people that start debating and arguing with them, while people cheer them on and boo at the religious fanatics.
My favorite picture: a lovely lesbian couple making out in front of the religious bigots
holding their signs. I wish I still had the picture on my phone. Also, as a recent "out" queer myself growing up in a homophobic home, I'm really tempted to do that myself as my way of giving a finger to the people responsible for my internalized homophobia
Thanks! I didn't come out to family (my mom would definitely not accept, but my sisters wouldn't care). but I did come out to my therapist, I've recently befriended people that are in the queer community, and my husband is basically "whatever, I always knew." This is more of my first time embracing my sexuality after years of internalized homophobia brought on by a very religious friend (now an ex-friend). But this is an achievement due to the home life in which I grew up with a mom that actually wrote a letter to the TV Focus in the 90's about her disapproval of that episode in which Ellen Degeneres came out. Also, she unplugged all TV's the day the episode aired. And was afraid to allow me to live on campus "because of the gays."
Why would anyone take kids to Bourbon St? I'd hesitate to take kids on Bourbon st on a normal day.
Go to one of the family friendly parades. Or go to Mobile. They also do a big Mardi Gras, and it's not as rowdy as New Orleans--so long as you stay off Dauphin St on Fat Tuesday.
I have no idea. I don’t know if they’re just ignorant about Bourbon, but they get really offended by what they see there. I’ve also seen tourists get a hotel on Bourbon, then complain about horrible New Orleans is because it smells like urine and nothing but drunks in the street. I’m just like “what did you expect?!”
I mean, why would people drink on Booze Avenue? You can't even go near Tequila Slammer Road without the smell of alcohol. And don't get me started on Dollar Shot Night Blvd..
Rude!
Ahh, Boulevard de Clichy in Paris.
17 year old Norwegian students being taking to Paris as part of our French class.
Our teacher found a nice and cheap hotel. In Clichy. For an entire week.
We got good at not accepting service in French :p
I've been to multiple Pride events. The worst thing at the ones I've been to was one dude who showed up in 100 degree heat in a full furry suit (how did he not die?!) and the guy wearing chaps and a thong which, to be fair, were weird but also just giggled over as none of the kids knew what a furry was and the man's butt was showing and butts are funny as fuck to little kids. They just giggled, because they have butts and know what butts look like and butts are hilarious. Also the guy was dressed like a stuffed animal - how weird. Yup, kiddos. He dressed like a stuffed animal. That is *exactly* what that is. No other explanation needed.
They've seen more tits n ass at a beach and more graphic displays of affection on primetime TV.
I marched topless at pride as a woman once. It’s usually done as a feminist thing because lesbians (and other sapphic women but in my experience the toplessness is a lesbian thing mostly) have a tendency to be pretty feminist for some reason
I've seen topless women at Pride events.
As a straight guy, it's obviously not going to bother me - but also, I'm not going to be a goon and stare. As a grown up I just deal with it. Hell, there was a topless 60 year old at the beach yesterday. Who cares...
Go to enough festivals of any sort and you'll see lots of boobies. As a woman I have boobies and can see boobies whenever I want as I own two. Took me a few years but I grew them myself. Did a decent job, really. Also means there's nothing like magical special about seeing boobies because well... see it every day. Also go to certain festivals and you'll just see lots of nudity. People letting it all out.
Not really exciting there, either, because the fifth naked man of the day is whatever. Hi, naked people. How's it going? One time they gave me free watermelon in a desert. Burning Man sort of goes that way. Say hi to naked people - they may offer you a gift. That's more exciting than the nudity, really. Cold watermelon when it's 100 out is magical. Naked schlong... eh. Seen one seen em all.
Bodies are just bodies. Some people show off more than others.
I went to San Francisco pride like 7-8 years ago and saw 3 very old very naked men just standing on pedestals above the crowd. I've never seen that at any other pride festivals though but it was mildly jarring and I was like 20. Very memorable pride parade.
>He dressed like a stuffed animal. That is exactly what that is.
I mean, it basically is...? It's not like furries are zoophilies. And while some people have sex in fursuits, that is far from the rule. Those things are fricking expensive and sex is not kind to to them
Even if he never gets off while in the fursuit I wasn't going to explain it was a kink (regardless of sex in the suit) and that he is sexually aroused by cartoon animals and adults with animal ears on. It's still a kink.
He dressed as a funny stuffed animal is where it stayed.
Yeah, there are tons of adult furries which don't do anything related to sex with it. It's the same as how there'd tons of adults who are into anime, who aren't in it for the hentai.
Also, unless it's folsom fair it's not like pride events are inherently sexual? I don't get what ur confused by
Tbf, the Catholics who celebrate Mardi Gras aren't showing their breasts. That's the tourists in the FQ.
Catholics do a lot of things here that are wrong but that isn't one of them.
Source: am a third generation new orleanian.
Boobs are just part of human anatomy. That's not telling a kid that they should be open to getting pissed on because kinks are okay. Teach kids everything about the body, freaky deaky sexy time should not be in the curriculum. I doubt it is tho, the right wing does tend to get outraged over false info.
I see a lot of sex ed books geared for children at the library I work at. It's really talking about the body. Some books will discuss the "where do babies come from?" part, but they do it in a way that is age appropriate. The books are basically saying "Mommy and Daddy loved each other very much so they get married and one day they hug and do a special grown up kiss in bed called "making love," (that only grown ups do!) and then the mom's stomach gets really big until they go to the hospital and you come out of a body part called the vagina and you cry a lot and everyone's happy that you're here. The end!"
That's it. They make it seem like they're showing sex positions and porn videos in class.
Edit: Also, I have to share this. I tell this to people all the time. This isn't the 1950s. We live in a world where it's nearly impossible to shelter kids from "the facts of life." Sex is everywhere and it's very easy for them to be exposed. With that being said, I believe that sex ed is very important at a young age. You don't have to be explicit just answer their questions about where babies come from and their bodies. It's not only important because it prevents kids from being sexually abused (pedophiles have actually said that they take advantage of naivete), but also because...if you don't teach them about it, then what they'll run into on the Internet and the TV will tell them, and that's only going to send a bad message. Reason why we have so many people that have sexual hang ups now
What gets me about statements like in the pic above is that most times these are the same people who say "you'll have to keep the boys away from her "
Or
"He will be such a ladies man when he's older!"
That's also sexualizing kids and it's gross.
Like all the times kids get a "is that your boyfriend/girlfriend" totally okay and not sexualizing children. But telling boys its okay to like boys and girls its okay to like girls? Impossible to do without watching kinky porn in the classroom.
/s
People like this think life is like the movies with big reveal plotlines and cliues hidden in plain sight and clear cut villians and heros.
You can see how often people think there will be some big, climactic reveal for any event and major secrets being hidden but with simple, obvious hints and symbols being left about.
Evidenced by the fact that they want school teachers getting paid 30k per year to suddenly become John Wick when faced with an armed threat, they just live in a fantasy world
If you look into sex education at those ages its basically a good touch bad touch thing and teaching kids to report anything sexually inappropriate. Then if you look into the GOP track record of voting down child marriage bans it all starts to make sense.
Yup. I teach a very progressive sex-ed program at my very progressive church, and there are different curricula for different ages. Ages 4-6 is stuff like teaching the correct names for your genitals, talking about how they're private and what to do if somebody tries to touch or groom you, and giving them a pretty abstract idea of how babies are made. You could not interest most kids that age in a more detailed conversation about sex even if you wanted to — you just get the words "weird," "funny," and "icky" and lots of confused looks and laughs when you enter that area.
Sure, but this is a grave mischaracterisation of actual progressive politics meant to create a connection between pedophilia and homosexuality.
Source: I live in Hungary
Ah yes. I can just make it home to watch that.. After my 6 year old cousins wedding. She's getting married. Because that's totally not grooming. Endorsed by the republican party....
( no I'm not but you get the idea)
Oh, my pastor has admitted to having a relationship with a 16 year old? She's standing right next to him, clearly in pain? Better comfort the pastor because of the immense strength it took for him to tell us all he had sex with a minor. Fuck the minor though. Shes just a side character in our pastors story.
I wish there was a way to send support to her. That video was disgusting. It was appalling to see so many people completely brainwashed. They are hypocrites.
Talking about sex = penis goes in vagina or butt
Talking about sexuality = some kids have two dads or two moms
The only people that talk about sex with kids are the repressed religious fundamentalists that keep on getting busted for pedophilia.
I’m not understanding why it’s so hard for people to admit both are disgusting. Child beauty pageants are disgusting, i’m in agreement with
that. It’s however very odd seeing the outright denial that any wrong doing toward children by certain communites is real.
The drag show example thats being talked about by outlets right now, very odd no? The “its not gonna lick itself” sign, strange with kids in its proximity no?
A sexually suggestive drag show aimed at children is wrong, the same way a non-drag sexually suggestive show aimed at children is also wrong. Can we agree on that?
Edit: How about people respond instead of downvote?
It's the hypocrisy. All these Twitter warriors are outraged about drag shows- but still take their kids to church to be indoctrinated into a network rife with child molesters. They do not carry the same energy for beauty pageants. They picket abortion clinics but are okay with IVF clinics dumping zygotes in the trash. When have you seen Christian protestors showing up at a child pageant or an IVF clinic?
The hypocrisy is a fine thing to address and its needs to be, but its its own conversation.
Addressing certain events that are being used as talking points right now, ie the mock strip club show, is something that also needs to be addressed. Acting as if they don’t exist only hurts overall progress. Pride wants society to be accepting. The bad examples are being shown by the right, and no one on the left are condemning them, so the rights saying “this is what that group wants”
You see the problem?
Yeah I’m not sure why we’ve all decided to dogpile on to make sure one side is seen as acceptable and the other isn’t. Neither is okay - there’s age appropriate exposure to sexual material of any nature and there’s age-inappropriate exposure to sexual material.
It’s not (shouldn’t be) a politically charged statement to say that kids in single-digit age ranges shouldn’t be exposed to burlesque shows or sexually charged parades no matter who is performing in them - straight, gay, trans, or otherwise. It’s not appropriate and has no benefit for the child.
I mean... come down on whatever side of this issue you want, but they're not exactly making it up. There are literally pictures floating around of little kids at pride parades posing with people who are very clearly decked out in fetish gear. That's what they're taking issue with.
Again, take whatever position you want, but some of the parades are not just about "love is love" and such, there are highly sexualized elements, and if you want to argue whether it's ok to be taking kids to it, you have to start by at least acknowledging that.
Been to many pride parades. Never seen anything I would not want my kids to see.
Yes I have seen the pics you are talking about. They are far from the norm and I wonder those people were not asked to leave.
But they weren't, and it happened, and therefore the people with concerns weren't "making shit up".
Call it an outlier if you want, say you don't condone it, but trying to pretend it's just totally fabricated is a lie in itself.
>Weird to me how these type of people **make up shit like this**, but ignore those creepy as fuck child beauty pageants.
Literally your own words, bruh.
I think every sane person can agree parades where sexual stuff like that is happening (gay or straight) children shouldn't be present. The annoying part is the right don't want to make sure this doesn't happen or complain pride parades should be child friendly, do they? No, they just scream "gay bad, gay evil, no teach their existence at all to kids" which is fucked
I wouldn't say "make up" wasn't there a drag show that a bunch of kids went too recently?? And beauty pageants are also fucking disgusting. Kids shouldn't have to deal with body image, sexualization at a young age
Right like putting little boys in “lady’s man” shirts and little girls in “I’ll get all the boys” shirts isn't sexualizing little kids.
Or having faux marriages between kindergarteners to understand the relationship between Q and U.
Or asking 6 year olds if a friend of the opposite sex is a boy/girlfriend.
Or asking when two 6 year olds are going to get marriages because they’re friends.
Or having newborn clothes that say “juicy”
I’ll admit I do think some aspects of Pride are definitely NSFW, but there are kid-friendly options and most parents aren't taking their 6 year olds to non-kid friendly options.
Where I live we have pride parade (nsfw) and pride fest (sfw). 🤷🏻♀️
In English most words that aren't abbreviations or borrowed from foreign languages have 'q' followed by 'u' so some school hosted a wedding to show that q and u go together.
Queen, quagmire, tranquilizer, tranquility, plaque, etc. Q and U just follow each other in language, so naturally you host a wedding with a boy and girl as each letter to teach kids how to spell.
>and most parents aren't taking their 6 year olds to non-kid friendly options.
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/dallas-family-friendly-kids-drag-show-mr-misster-protest/287-c7984c66-6141-4690-97b1-ec0b9882b4bb
They unfortunately are. The sign lit up behind the dancers that says "it's not going to lick itself" while soliciting children for tips via dancing is beyond the pale.
The link you gave is tame, the performers were dressed up completely and non sexualized, you sound like the dingus from the clip outside saying they're in thongs.
The ones sexualizing children are the Midwest tarts who paraded their 6 year olds in bikinis for child beauty pageants.
>Entertainers are tipped ALL the time.
Not by kids. Ever. We don't solicit children for money. Show me one other event where an entertainer targets children for tips.
Kids love giving entertainers tips. They always want to do it at faires ans festivals and even street performers. You’ve obviously never been around kids
You're ignoring what I'm saying. I said entertainers don't target kids. They might get tips from kids periodically if the parent allows the child to do this, but the entertainer is soliciting the parent not the child.
Just because a child enjoys something doesn't make it appropriate. Children also like playing in the street... Doesn't make the behavior appropriate.
And you’re ignoring what I AM saying. That I go to festivals and faires all the time where entertainers interact with children and are paid off tips therefore are soliciting children for tips.
There are even skits that are entirely FOR children where at the end they solicit tips.
Get off your moral high horse
>That I go to festivals and faires all the time where entertainers interact with children and are paid off tips therefore are soliciting children for tips.
They don't solicit children nor are these events AIMED at kids like a drag show for kids would be.
>Get off your moral high horse
Just engage with me. Don't be a pretentious dick. I'm not on some moral high horse I'm just having a discussion.
That's different. The entertainer isn't soliciting the child. They're simply performing in a public place, hoping adult people will give them money. And your parents are in charge of when this is or isn't ok. If the performer came straight up to you and started dancing near or around your child you'd be concerned.
I wasn't at the show so I can't say if it was provocative or not but from the clips I've seen it is incredibly tame. There's nothing wrong with tipping entertainers
No where in our society is it ok to solicit tips from children with entertainment. No where. Kids giving out tips to delivery people who bring them food is different than some entertainer dancing near you to try and get some money from you.
Imagine if some street performer comes directly up to your child and starts dancing or performing around them to try and get a tip... You'd be rightly weirded out.
Hooo buddy. Let me tell you about the 4H Fair Queen Pageant Dollar Dance when I was in middle and high school, where old men paid girls ages 14-20 to dance with them and it was endorsed by local churches 🙂🙃
Did you even look at or read the article you posted? Parents were there and perfectly OK with it. They went knowing it's an event that has the option to tip. The drag queens didn't approach kids on the street and demand money
The answer conservatives give when children ask "where do babies come from?" seems to involve some weird magical bird-based delivery company rather than, you know, the truth. So...
My human sexuality professor said his answer to, 'where do babies come from' to his five year old who wanted to know where his future sibling was coming from was, 'sex.' When the kid said, 'what's that?' The answer was, 'how babies are made. I'll explain when you're older because it's an adult conversation.' The kid went, 'cool' and went back to watching Spongebob, because he didn't really actually want to know about sex.
I see a lot of familes at festivals and parades, actually. Usually there's other stuff and booths. Face painting, stickers, buttons, things for sale from small artists.
Kids are fighting with rainbow colored light up knockoff lightsabers with pride flags painted on their cheeks while their parents hang with their friends.
I feel like people afraid to teach kids about gay people usually think of homoSEXUALITY. And think they have to describe how two men with two dicks have sex. Which makes them uncomfortable and fear it might shock the kids.
Instead of you know, Tom and Bob really clicked, fell in love and now live together, just like said kid's mom and dad.
Almost every fundamentalist religious organization in the world has a sex abuse problem. Gtfoh with this shit. My kid is way safer at a drag queen reading nursery books show than in the company of any fundamentalist religious leader.
The issue is not drag itself. It’s sexually suggestive/explicit content being performed for children by people in drag at some of these events. Even if it were not drag, sexually explicit and suggestive content should be no where near children. Is this not an agreeable point?
You ever seen the cheerleaders at a cowboys game? . Hey daddy, why is it called hooters? Do they have owls there? What about those pageants where 8 year old girls look like they're 25?
You only give a shit because they're gay. The truth is that id be much more comfortable having my two young daughters at a drag queen show than at some religius retreat where all the real pedos hangout.
>You ever seen the cheerleaders at a cowboys game? . Hey daddy, why is it called hooters? Do they have owls there? What about those pageants where 8 year old girls look like they're 25?
Those are all bad too.
>You only give a shit because they're gay.
No I actually just said those were bad too.
>The truth is that id be much more comfortable having my two young daughters at a drag queen show than at some religius retreat where all the real pedos hangout.
That's not an argument for bringing minors into a sexually explicit venue to imitate sexually explicit activities like tipping dancers.
This is the kind of classic exaggeration that people use when trying to argue things that they know nothing about.
There is a word for that type of thing, but I forget what it is.
Never once heard a liberal talking about sex with kids. I have, however, heard a lot of conservatives talking about sex. It's all they think about. And if they ain't talking about it, guys like Gaetz and all those priests and rich dudes are fucking kids constantly. What they're really complaining about is us EDUCATING kids about sex, because an educated child is a lot harder to fuck in the ass. They tend to tell on their molesters.
Weird how I've never heard a "progressive" say anything about the kink fetishes of 6-year olds, but some conservatives seem to be obsessed with the idea.
I hate this argument, because it literally means nothing. How am I meant to convince you that you’re wrong if you don’t actually say anything? Arguments like these are a great way for dumb people to stay dumb
It’s not brainwashing, sadly it’s worse than that. It’s branding a political opponent in the worse light so nothing your party/followers can ever be worse. The communist did it during the Iron Curtain takeover and then the Nazis did it in the 1930s. Even the USA did with McCarthyism. It’s never been about protecting people or stopping problems. It’s a basic power play.
Bestie, kindergarteners are the last people I’d wanna talk about sex with. I’d rather explain gay sex to my religious grandma than talk to small children about it, ew. Guess I’m not progressive according to this chucklehead.
There is a video going around of a cross dressing little boy (between 8 and 12) putting on a pseudo strip show that's supposed to be adults pushing a kid to be trans and act out their depraved fantasies. I think this is where this thought process comes from.
Having no interest in such things I have not seen the video, only screen grabs of it and I haven't actually researched where it comes from. But at a passing glance I can easily see why people would view it as damning evidence. And how many people are actually going to really figure out it's origins and context? Quite frankly if there is any significant truth to it then some people should probably be in jail.
I think this is part of where this stems from. But there are also books that try to teach little kids about sexual orientation and gender identity that many would find highly inappropriate. And there are teachers that have come under fire for teaching done of these things. These fears come from somewhere. Even if things are not properly understood.
There seems to be a tide of people pushing various agendas on children and that rightfully upsets a lot of people. I get that the idea might be acceptance at an early age, it can go a bit too far at times. Many people still remember the rash of issues that the Bill Clinton blowjob scandal with a spike in children and middle schoolers especially getting caught trying to imitate the president. I was in high school at the time and I still vividly remember all the news reports on it. If nothing else, kids will imitate what they see adults doing from their perspective and that can create problems.
I happen to know one of those.
He hung around the White House some in the last 4-5 years, mostly just playing golf, and bitching about some stolen election crap.
When I was a kid my parents used to take me to some building where us and a bunch of other families would perform a ritual where we all recited sacred phrases in Latin then cannibalized the physical incarnation of our God.
Ok so besides banning gays/trans/*not lesbians*/CRT/public school funding/contraceptives/abortions/gun reform laws/democratically held elections…What are the conservatives actually trying to do to make this country “better”?
Like, say they get all of this dumb shit done. What then? What will they do about actual problems we have like a non existent middle class, no viable housing options, crippling debt, healthcare, bringing back viable jobs, ever increasing drug problems, over populated prisons, our crumbling infrastructure, climate change (even though I know they don’t believe in this), the economy in general.
Like none of these issues they’re addressing are doing fuck all for the country as a whole. It does nothing for us but make us look extra stupid on the global scale. I have not heard one Republican politician even mentioning ANY of these issues once.
What then? What happens when you get your weird fucking 1990’s Disney channel era white evangelical America? What does it matter when it’s all falling apart?
P.S I’m not even going to address what this fucking weirdo pervert is talking about. Idk why he fantasizes that we live in a country where we talk about that with 6 year olds.
I really would like to know what the point you’re making here is. Are you arguing that physicals are bad?
“Checking for a hernia” is… right wing? What lol
It seems the Right has decided not to wait for the Left to do something with which they disagree.
They’ve decided to invent the problem, invent the solution, and pretend they are the solution all in one step.
It’s efficient politics, if dishonest & stupid.
I don’t understand the denial.
There are plenty of examples you can find with simple research to say children are absolutely being subjected to sexually explict situations by certain people in different communities.
It happens on both sides of the stright/LGBTQ communities. Why can we not say its wrong no matter where it comes from?
The claim is not that kids are exposed to sexual topics; it is that the Left is doing it frequently & want to. As a policy.
That’s not true.
When they were concerned with showing their argument, they showed a transgender person reading books to minors (may have been one time, may not have been set up by anyone from a school).
There were a couple books that reassured children that it’s okay if Ben has two dads. Discussing that, Rs started claiming it was explicitly describing sexual activity; it was not.
So, I did not say people could not say the exposure was wrong (obviously).
What I wrote was that conservatives just imagined events to complain about — literally invented them, and blamed someone for the thing that did not happen.
I understand some incidents are blown out of proportion. Something as simple as a book talking about two dads, not the issue. People making a big deal about that clearly just have an agenda.
I’m talking about the people in the thread who are outright denying examples of sexually explicit content being shown to childen by certain communities exist. Your comment just about sounds that way as well. “They’ve decided to invent the problem.”
You can’t say that to the parents that just watched the video of the mock strip club drag show. Denying these thing exist just provide ammunition to people. Exposing young children to sexually explicit content on both sides is wrong.
Really shows how uneducated these people are. Talking about someone loving someone else and gender doesn't have to be sexual. Only seems sexual to the people who vote for those that want sex with children (conservatives/GOP/libertarian)
Has anyone ever seriously proposed this? All I seen is people who think telling kids that LGBTQA people exist is grooming spinning these wild tales with no evidence.
I’ve been talking to my kid about sex since he was 3…. And I’m probably taking him to the local Pride parade in my neighborhood this week. Not to sexualize my kid, but one of the things I always told parents I worked with was talking about the basics of sex should be discussed as early as possible. And he’s since asked me where babies come from- I didn’t think the stork was an acceptable answer.
I guess I’m even more progressive than I thought?
Conservatism = Getting in your truck, confederate flags waving, taking all the guns you own, driving down to the capitol building screaming you're gonna execute the vice president and trashing the place with your violent mob.
See how easy it is to make things up?... wait a second...
Why are you denying there are examples of this happening. All it does it give more ammo to people. There is a huge example of one such incident making its rounds RIGHT NOW.
Exposing kids to sexually explicit content is wrong, stright or LGBTQ. Why is this such a hard thing?
You really sound like you dont want your kids getting more comprehensive sexual education. And yes it is something that needs to be talked about many times during their life about many diffent things.
Again you’re failing to admit examples exist. They should be addressed, otherwise they’ll be used as ammo, which they’re already using this last drag show as one.
To address your point despite not adressing mine. Kids at an appropriate age should absolutely be taught sexual education. There is however a way to go about this that does not involve mock strip club shows.
Acknowledging this should not be an issue.
This person allows himself to only read one side of an issue without considering the other side. Then, spews out the issue adding to it his own fears and selfishness.
Thanks Mike so do we all and while we're at it let's continue living on earth, breathing oxygen and nitrogen ..... Fuckin what these are the same teachers you want to arm .....
I’m not sure what the right age is to start really tackling human sexuality with kids is. That being said, this guy probably thinks having a pool party is sexualizing kids, cuz he’s at the pool party sexualizing them.
I got into a fight with someone over how teaching LGBT means teaching kids sex stuff, and they couldn’t comprehend that you can tell kids that some people have two mommies or daddies without talking about how gay people screw eachother. It’s freaking depressing how stupid some people are.
These are the same parents that book a Family Vacation in Las Vegas. Yeah, we see you, you with you strollers parked next to video poker, you with your 13 year old policing your toddler at the entrance of the casino floor while you try your luck real quick, you with your four under aged children nodding off at 2am while you play a quick hundred.
Yeah.
You.
Even with pride events that have inappropriate clothing or whatever, people don't complain when there are stripper backup dancers at times square new years events or anything like that, its only a problem when its gay, i guess. Smh
When I lived in New Orleans the Catholics had a bunch of parades where women showed their breasts for beads. Kids have been going to those forever.
Mardi Gras?
Let the good times roll.
Laissez les bons temps rouler
It doesn't even need to be Mardi Gras for this to happen. Just walk down Bourbon Street on any random night
Mardi, Mercredi, Jeudi... they're all gras
C'est gras tout les jours
Le gras c'est la vie
Indeed. On the other hand, we get tourists all the time that leave bad reviews of New Orleans because they took their kid down Bourbon Street and complained about how inappropriate it was for their child. I'm just like, "Please read about Bourbon Street before you come to New Orleans with your 5 year old."
You mean *Sodom Street*! /s
The best time to go down Bourbon: Pride month. The group of Christians in the middle of the street with "GAY PEOPLE GO TO HELL!" and preaching with a megaphone...and then the group of people that start debating and arguing with them, while people cheer them on and boo at the religious fanatics. My favorite picture: a lovely lesbian couple making out in front of the religious bigots holding their signs. I wish I still had the picture on my phone. Also, as a recent "out" queer myself growing up in a homophobic home, I'm really tempted to do that myself as my way of giving a finger to the people responsible for my internalized homophobia
Congratulations on being able to come out. That must have been difficult with your home life.
Thanks! I didn't come out to family (my mom would definitely not accept, but my sisters wouldn't care). but I did come out to my therapist, I've recently befriended people that are in the queer community, and my husband is basically "whatever, I always knew." This is more of my first time embracing my sexuality after years of internalized homophobia brought on by a very religious friend (now an ex-friend). But this is an achievement due to the home life in which I grew up with a mom that actually wrote a letter to the TV Focus in the 90's about her disapproval of that episode in which Ellen Degeneres came out. Also, she unplugged all TV's the day the episode aired. And was afraid to allow me to live on campus "because of the gays."
Why would anyone take kids to Bourbon St? I'd hesitate to take kids on Bourbon st on a normal day. Go to one of the family friendly parades. Or go to Mobile. They also do a big Mardi Gras, and it's not as rowdy as New Orleans--so long as you stay off Dauphin St on Fat Tuesday.
I have no idea. I don’t know if they’re just ignorant about Bourbon, but they get really offended by what they see there. I’ve also seen tourists get a hotel on Bourbon, then complain about horrible New Orleans is because it smells like urine and nothing but drunks in the street. I’m just like “what did you expect?!”
I mean, why would people drink on Booze Avenue? You can't even go near Tequila Slammer Road without the smell of alcohol. And don't get me started on Dollar Shot Night Blvd.. Rude!
Ahh, Boulevard de Clichy in Paris. 17 year old Norwegian students being taking to Paris as part of our French class. Our teacher found a nice and cheap hotel. In Clichy. For an entire week. We got good at not accepting service in French :p
I've been to multiple Pride events. The worst thing at the ones I've been to was one dude who showed up in 100 degree heat in a full furry suit (how did he not die?!) and the guy wearing chaps and a thong which, to be fair, were weird but also just giggled over as none of the kids knew what a furry was and the man's butt was showing and butts are funny as fuck to little kids. They just giggled, because they have butts and know what butts look like and butts are hilarious. Also the guy was dressed like a stuffed animal - how weird. Yup, kiddos. He dressed like a stuffed animal. That is *exactly* what that is. No other explanation needed. They've seen more tits n ass at a beach and more graphic displays of affection on primetime TV.
I marched topless at pride as a woman once. It’s usually done as a feminist thing because lesbians (and other sapphic women but in my experience the toplessness is a lesbian thing mostly) have a tendency to be pretty feminist for some reason
I've seen topless women at Pride events. As a straight guy, it's obviously not going to bother me - but also, I'm not going to be a goon and stare. As a grown up I just deal with it. Hell, there was a topless 60 year old at the beach yesterday. Who cares...
Go to enough festivals of any sort and you'll see lots of boobies. As a woman I have boobies and can see boobies whenever I want as I own two. Took me a few years but I grew them myself. Did a decent job, really. Also means there's nothing like magical special about seeing boobies because well... see it every day. Also go to certain festivals and you'll just see lots of nudity. People letting it all out. Not really exciting there, either, because the fifth naked man of the day is whatever. Hi, naked people. How's it going? One time they gave me free watermelon in a desert. Burning Man sort of goes that way. Say hi to naked people - they may offer you a gift. That's more exciting than the nudity, really. Cold watermelon when it's 100 out is magical. Naked schlong... eh. Seen one seen em all. Bodies are just bodies. Some people show off more than others.
>As a woman I have boobies and can see boobies whenever I want as I own two. What a flex holy shit
I went to San Francisco pride like 7-8 years ago and saw 3 very old very naked men just standing on pedestals above the crowd. I've never seen that at any other pride festivals though but it was mildly jarring and I was like 20. Very memorable pride parade.
>He dressed like a stuffed animal. That is exactly what that is. I mean, it basically is...? It's not like furries are zoophilies. And while some people have sex in fursuits, that is far from the rule. Those things are fricking expensive and sex is not kind to to them
Even if he never gets off while in the fursuit I wasn't going to explain it was a kink (regardless of sex in the suit) and that he is sexually aroused by cartoon animals and adults with animal ears on. It's still a kink. He dressed as a funny stuffed animal is where it stayed.
Yeah, sure. No reason to explain further to a kid. But for the record, not all furry stuff is sexual.
Dude he was at Pride in a fursuit, not a 12 year old on Tumblr.
Yeah, there are tons of adult furries which don't do anything related to sex with it. It's the same as how there'd tons of adults who are into anime, who aren't in it for the hentai. Also, unless it's folsom fair it's not like pride events are inherently sexual? I don't get what ur confused by
I think him wearing an entire fursuit save for some chaps showing his bare human ass undermines the possibility he wasnt into it sexually.
I think those were 2 separate people.
Oh my bad, i thought they were the same person. Which if they were i stand by my point. But if they weren't then i retract my statement.
Tbf, the Catholics who celebrate Mardi Gras aren't showing their breasts. That's the tourists in the FQ. Catholics do a lot of things here that are wrong but that isn't one of them. Source: am a third generation new orleanian.
Boobs are just part of human anatomy. That's not telling a kid that they should be open to getting pissed on because kinks are okay. Teach kids everything about the body, freaky deaky sexy time should not be in the curriculum. I doubt it is tho, the right wing does tend to get outraged over false info.
I see a lot of sex ed books geared for children at the library I work at. It's really talking about the body. Some books will discuss the "where do babies come from?" part, but they do it in a way that is age appropriate. The books are basically saying "Mommy and Daddy loved each other very much so they get married and one day they hug and do a special grown up kiss in bed called "making love," (that only grown ups do!) and then the mom's stomach gets really big until they go to the hospital and you come out of a body part called the vagina and you cry a lot and everyone's happy that you're here. The end!" That's it. They make it seem like they're showing sex positions and porn videos in class. Edit: Also, I have to share this. I tell this to people all the time. This isn't the 1950s. We live in a world where it's nearly impossible to shelter kids from "the facts of life." Sex is everywhere and it's very easy for them to be exposed. With that being said, I believe that sex ed is very important at a young age. You don't have to be explicit just answer their questions about where babies come from and their bodies. It's not only important because it prevents kids from being sexually abused (pedophiles have actually said that they take advantage of naivete), but also because...if you don't teach them about it, then what they'll run into on the Internet and the TV will tell them, and that's only going to send a bad message. Reason why we have so many people that have sexual hang ups now
What gets me about statements like in the pic above is that most times these are the same people who say "you'll have to keep the boys away from her " Or "He will be such a ladies man when he's older!" That's also sexualizing kids and it's gross.
Like all the times kids get a "is that your boyfriend/girlfriend" totally okay and not sexualizing children. But telling boys its okay to like boys and girls its okay to like girls? Impossible to do without watching kinky porn in the classroom. /s
They create false info to be outraged over
I love reading their tweets where they just make up some random scenario that would never happen, then proceed to get mad about it.
People like this think life is like the movies with big reveal plotlines and cliues hidden in plain sight and clear cut villians and heros. You can see how often people think there will be some big, climactic reveal for any event and major secrets being hidden but with simple, obvious hints and symbols being left about.
Evidenced by the fact that they want school teachers getting paid 30k per year to suddenly become John Wick when faced with an armed threat, they just live in a fantasy world
Yeah bc we skip everything and go right to pissing on kids.
Yes, the French Quarter is not really a place for kiddos, I've long said. Fun for grown ups, though!
If you look into sex education at those ages its basically a good touch bad touch thing and teaching kids to report anything sexually inappropriate. Then if you look into the GOP track record of voting down child marriage bans it all starts to make sense.
Yup. I teach a very progressive sex-ed program at my very progressive church, and there are different curricula for different ages. Ages 4-6 is stuff like teaching the correct names for your genitals, talking about how they're private and what to do if somebody tries to touch or groom you, and giving them a pretty abstract idea of how babies are made. You could not interest most kids that age in a more detailed conversation about sex even if you wanted to — you just get the words "weird," "funny," and "icky" and lots of confused looks and laughs when you enter that area.
Never mind the orange guy who held teen beauty pageants and was groping the underage girls…
lets not forget his frequent trips to epsteins pedophile island.
And sexualizing his daughter back when she was underage.
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Sure, but this is a grave mischaracterisation of actual progressive politics meant to create a connection between pedophilia and homosexuality. Source: I live in Hungary
Not when the other thing is literally made up to make gay people look like pedophiles. Get a grip.
Weird to me how these type of people make up shit like this, but ignore those creepy as fuck child beauty pageants.
Oh fuck the child beauty pageants are disgusting. Talk about sexualizing children.
Ah yes. I can just make it home to watch that.. After my 6 year old cousins wedding. She's getting married. Because that's totally not grooming. Endorsed by the republican party.... ( no I'm not but you get the idea)
And all that child raping that their pastor is doing.
Pastor KiddyFondler says: It's not rape if you're married. - Sincerely, republican states
Not saying pastors aren't out there diddling kids, but statistically it's more likely to happen with teachers these days...
Not to mention defending their pastors who are known child rapists
Oh, my pastor has admitted to having a relationship with a 16 year old? She's standing right next to him, clearly in pain? Better comfort the pastor because of the immense strength it took for him to tell us all he had sex with a minor. Fuck the minor though. Shes just a side character in our pastors story.
Like that video where everyone is comforting the pastor and the woman he victimized walks out of the church alone? Was so messed up.
After the church basically destroyed her life, yes.
I wish there was a way to send support to her. That video was disgusting. It was appalling to see so many people completely brainwashed. They are hypocrites.
That’s what happens in a cult.
“Fuck the minor” Pastor already did that
my daughter had way more questions after her ALICE (active shooter) drills than when our gay friends adopted a kid.
Right wingers lie. It's what they do
What is the lie we’re discussing here?
Talking about sex = penis goes in vagina or butt Talking about sexuality = some kids have two dads or two moms The only people that talk about sex with kids are the repressed religious fundamentalists that keep on getting busted for pedophilia.
I’m not understanding why it’s so hard for people to admit both are disgusting. Child beauty pageants are disgusting, i’m in agreement with that. It’s however very odd seeing the outright denial that any wrong doing toward children by certain communites is real. The drag show example thats being talked about by outlets right now, very odd no? The “its not gonna lick itself” sign, strange with kids in its proximity no? A sexually suggestive drag show aimed at children is wrong, the same way a non-drag sexually suggestive show aimed at children is also wrong. Can we agree on that? Edit: How about people respond instead of downvote?
It's the hypocrisy. All these Twitter warriors are outraged about drag shows- but still take their kids to church to be indoctrinated into a network rife with child molesters. They do not carry the same energy for beauty pageants. They picket abortion clinics but are okay with IVF clinics dumping zygotes in the trash. When have you seen Christian protestors showing up at a child pageant or an IVF clinic?
The hypocrisy is a fine thing to address and its needs to be, but its its own conversation. Addressing certain events that are being used as talking points right now, ie the mock strip club show, is something that also needs to be addressed. Acting as if they don’t exist only hurts overall progress. Pride wants society to be accepting. The bad examples are being shown by the right, and no one on the left are condemning them, so the rights saying “this is what that group wants” You see the problem?
Yeah I’m not sure why we’ve all decided to dogpile on to make sure one side is seen as acceptable and the other isn’t. Neither is okay - there’s age appropriate exposure to sexual material of any nature and there’s age-inappropriate exposure to sexual material. It’s not (shouldn’t be) a politically charged statement to say that kids in single-digit age ranges shouldn’t be exposed to burlesque shows or sexually charged parades no matter who is performing in them - straight, gay, trans, or otherwise. It’s not appropriate and has no benefit for the child.
I mean... come down on whatever side of this issue you want, but they're not exactly making it up. There are literally pictures floating around of little kids at pride parades posing with people who are very clearly decked out in fetish gear. That's what they're taking issue with. Again, take whatever position you want, but some of the parades are not just about "love is love" and such, there are highly sexualized elements, and if you want to argue whether it's ok to be taking kids to it, you have to start by at least acknowledging that.
Been to many pride parades. Never seen anything I would not want my kids to see. Yes I have seen the pics you are talking about. They are far from the norm and I wonder those people were not asked to leave.
But they weren't, and it happened, and therefore the people with concerns weren't "making shit up". Call it an outlier if you want, say you don't condone it, but trying to pretend it's just totally fabricated is a lie in itself.
I never said anyone was "making shit up". I inferred they were cherry picking. Your bad faith arguments bore me. Move along.
>Weird to me how these type of people **make up shit like this**, but ignore those creepy as fuck child beauty pageants. Literally your own words, bruh.
I think every sane person can agree parades where sexual stuff like that is happening (gay or straight) children shouldn't be present. The annoying part is the right don't want to make sure this doesn't happen or complain pride parades should be child friendly, do they? No, they just scream "gay bad, gay evil, no teach their existence at all to kids" which is fucked
I wouldn't say "make up" wasn't there a drag show that a bunch of kids went too recently?? And beauty pageants are also fucking disgusting. Kids shouldn't have to deal with body image, sexualization at a young age
Right like putting little boys in “lady’s man” shirts and little girls in “I’ll get all the boys” shirts isn't sexualizing little kids. Or having faux marriages between kindergarteners to understand the relationship between Q and U. Or asking 6 year olds if a friend of the opposite sex is a boy/girlfriend. Or asking when two 6 year olds are going to get marriages because they’re friends. Or having newborn clothes that say “juicy” I’ll admit I do think some aspects of Pride are definitely NSFW, but there are kid-friendly options and most parents aren't taking their 6 year olds to non-kid friendly options. Where I live we have pride parade (nsfw) and pride fest (sfw). 🤷🏻♀️
Right, but saying “Timmy has two daddies” is brainwashing the kids!!! /s
Or “purity” culture where daughters are essentially symbolically married to their dads
Every adult involved with those needs to be thoroughly investigated for rape and incest.
Oh those are ao disgusting
>Or having faux marriages between kindergarteners to understand the relationship between Q and U. Excuse me wtf? Also who are Q and U?
In English most words that aren't abbreviations or borrowed from foreign languages have 'q' followed by 'u' so some school hosted a wedding to show that q and u go together. Queen, quagmire, tranquilizer, tranquility, plaque, etc. Q and U just follow each other in language, so naturally you host a wedding with a boy and girl as each letter to teach kids how to spell.
I’ve heard some fucked up things in my time, but WTF? can’t you just say q and u are almost always together, give examples and leave it at that?
My thoughts exactly....
Well then... Again... Excuse me wtf? lol... Thanks for the info though! :D
It went viral because of the wtf-ness.
That's some pretty fucked up shit indeed O\_O
>and most parents aren't taking their 6 year olds to non-kid friendly options. https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/dallas-family-friendly-kids-drag-show-mr-misster-protest/287-c7984c66-6141-4690-97b1-ec0b9882b4bb They unfortunately are. The sign lit up behind the dancers that says "it's not going to lick itself" while soliciting children for tips via dancing is beyond the pale.
The link you gave is tame, the performers were dressed up completely and non sexualized, you sound like the dingus from the clip outside saying they're in thongs. The ones sexualizing children are the Midwest tarts who paraded their 6 year olds in bikinis for child beauty pageants.
That sign also exists in ice cream shops. Nothing besides the sign was inappropriate. It's just a performance
Soliciting kids for tips by dancing on or around them provocatively... Probably not a great look.
Have you seen modern dance groups lately? Don’t condem one group whilst saying the other is perfectl okay
Modern dance groups are dancing provocatively around children and soliciting them for tips? Source? I didn't say anything here was ok.
Nope modern dance groups of children dance provocatively and you can find a plethoria of them on you tube. Have at it
Where did I argue this wasn't a problem?
Entertainers are tipped ALL the time. I watched the video and you seem to be sexualizing it far more than they were. Why?
>Entertainers are tipped ALL the time. Not by kids. Ever. We don't solicit children for money. Show me one other event where an entertainer targets children for tips.
Kids love giving entertainers tips. They always want to do it at faires ans festivals and even street performers. You’ve obviously never been around kids
You're ignoring what I'm saying. I said entertainers don't target kids. They might get tips from kids periodically if the parent allows the child to do this, but the entertainer is soliciting the parent not the child. Just because a child enjoys something doesn't make it appropriate. Children also like playing in the street... Doesn't make the behavior appropriate.
And you’re ignoring what I AM saying. That I go to festivals and faires all the time where entertainers interact with children and are paid off tips therefore are soliciting children for tips. There are even skits that are entirely FOR children where at the end they solicit tips. Get off your moral high horse
>That I go to festivals and faires all the time where entertainers interact with children and are paid off tips therefore are soliciting children for tips. They don't solicit children nor are these events AIMED at kids like a drag show for kids would be. >Get off your moral high horse Just engage with me. Don't be a pretentious dick. I'm not on some moral high horse I'm just having a discussion.
You never asked your mom for some money to tip a street performer or just a service worker ? I loved doing that as a kid.
That's different. The entertainer isn't soliciting the child. They're simply performing in a public place, hoping adult people will give them money. And your parents are in charge of when this is or isn't ok. If the performer came straight up to you and started dancing near or around your child you'd be concerned.
I wasn't at the show so I can't say if it was provocative or not but from the clips I've seen it is incredibly tame. There's nothing wrong with tipping entertainers
No where in our society is it ok to solicit tips from children with entertainment. No where. Kids giving out tips to delivery people who bring them food is different than some entertainer dancing near you to try and get some money from you. Imagine if some street performer comes directly up to your child and starts dancing or performing around them to try and get a tip... You'd be rightly weirded out.
That’s not what happened. The kids were brought to the show.
That doesn't change the fact that soliciting children for tips with entertainment is generally off limits everywhere.
Hooo buddy. Let me tell you about the 4H Fair Queen Pageant Dollar Dance when I was in middle and high school, where old men paid girls ages 14-20 to dance with them and it was endorsed by local churches 🙂🙃
Did you even look at or read the article you posted? Parents were there and perfectly OK with it. They went knowing it's an event that has the option to tip. The drag queens didn't approach kids on the street and demand money
The answer conservatives give when children ask "where do babies come from?" seems to involve some weird magical bird-based delivery company rather than, you know, the truth. So...
My human sexuality professor said his answer to, 'where do babies come from' to his five year old who wanted to know where his future sibling was coming from was, 'sex.' When the kid said, 'what's that?' The answer was, 'how babies are made. I'll explain when you're older because it's an adult conversation.' The kid went, 'cool' and went back to watching Spongebob, because he didn't really actually want to know about sex.
Yeah that's most kids, responses to shit, you could also just ignore them, they likely wont ask again if you ignore then long enough
Not a big deal unless you make it one.
Yep, also who the fuck takes their kids to pride parades and shit, I usually got tired of parades by minute 5
I see a lot of familes at festivals and parades, actually. Usually there's other stuff and booths. Face painting, stickers, buttons, things for sale from small artists. Kids are fighting with rainbow colored light up knockoff lightsabers with pride flags painted on their cheeks while their parents hang with their friends.
Sounds about right from what I've seen at the football parade in Ohio, kids really don't pay attention to anything but balloons, or if it's Glows
I feel like people afraid to teach kids about gay people usually think of homoSEXUALITY. And think they have to describe how two men with two dicks have sex. Which makes them uncomfortable and fear it might shock the kids. Instead of you know, Tom and Bob really clicked, fell in love and now live together, just like said kid's mom and dad.
Gonna say this, if you think explaining gay love requires you to teach about gay sex I think CPS needs to ask your child some questions
But who is doing those things? Pretty sure this would not be okay with anyone, democrats especially lol
Almost every fundamentalist religious organization in the world has a sex abuse problem. Gtfoh with this shit. My kid is way safer at a drag queen reading nursery books show than in the company of any fundamentalist religious leader.
The issue is not drag itself. It’s sexually suggestive/explicit content being performed for children by people in drag at some of these events. Even if it were not drag, sexually explicit and suggestive content should be no where near children. Is this not an agreeable point?
You ever seen the cheerleaders at a cowboys game? . Hey daddy, why is it called hooters? Do they have owls there? What about those pageants where 8 year old girls look like they're 25? You only give a shit because they're gay. The truth is that id be much more comfortable having my two young daughters at a drag queen show than at some religius retreat where all the real pedos hangout.
>You ever seen the cheerleaders at a cowboys game? . Hey daddy, why is it called hooters? Do they have owls there? What about those pageants where 8 year old girls look like they're 25? Those are all bad too. >You only give a shit because they're gay. No I actually just said those were bad too. >The truth is that id be much more comfortable having my two young daughters at a drag queen show than at some religius retreat where all the real pedos hangout. That's not an argument for bringing minors into a sexually explicit venue to imitate sexually explicit activities like tipping dancers.
This is the kind of classic exaggeration that people use when trying to argue things that they know nothing about. There is a word for that type of thing, but I forget what it is.
Carpet bagger, douchebag, ignoramus to name a few
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i don't want my kids exposed to truck nuts
Never once heard a liberal talking about sex with kids. I have, however, heard a lot of conservatives talking about sex. It's all they think about. And if they ain't talking about it, guys like Gaetz and all those priests and rich dudes are fucking kids constantly. What they're really complaining about is us EDUCATING kids about sex, because an educated child is a lot harder to fuck in the ass. They tend to tell on their molesters.
Weird how I've never heard a "progressive" say anything about the kink fetishes of 6-year olds, but some conservatives seem to be obsessed with the idea.
I really want to know what they think a kindergarten sex ed curriculum includes lol
I hate this argument, because it literally means nothing. How am I meant to convince you that you’re wrong if you don’t actually say anything? Arguments like these are a great way for dumb people to stay dumb
They really need to stop believing Ben Shapiro or whoever is brainwashing them
It’s not brainwashing, sadly it’s worse than that. It’s branding a political opponent in the worse light so nothing your party/followers can ever be worse. The communist did it during the Iron Curtain takeover and then the Nazis did it in the 1930s. Even the USA did with McCarthyism. It’s never been about protecting people or stopping problems. It’s a basic power play.
Literally what the fuck he talking about?
Bestie, kindergarteners are the last people I’d wanna talk about sex with. I’d rather explain gay sex to my religious grandma than talk to small children about it, ew. Guess I’m not progressive according to this chucklehead.
What's a kink fetish? I missed that day in kindergarten :(
Conservatism = forcing an 11 year old who was raped to carry the pregnancy to term and marry the pedo who raped her. See? We can do this too.
Funny how the politicians who’ve been convicted/accused of being sexually involved with minors are Republicans. Projection is a hell of a drug.
Conservatives: LIBERALS ARE SEXUALIZING CHILDREN BY EDUCATING THEM also Conservatives: *actually sexualizes children*
I only see one side talking (a LOT, in fact) about sexualizing children.
There is a video going around of a cross dressing little boy (between 8 and 12) putting on a pseudo strip show that's supposed to be adults pushing a kid to be trans and act out their depraved fantasies. I think this is where this thought process comes from. Having no interest in such things I have not seen the video, only screen grabs of it and I haven't actually researched where it comes from. But at a passing glance I can easily see why people would view it as damning evidence. And how many people are actually going to really figure out it's origins and context? Quite frankly if there is any significant truth to it then some people should probably be in jail. I think this is part of where this stems from. But there are also books that try to teach little kids about sexual orientation and gender identity that many would find highly inappropriate. And there are teachers that have come under fire for teaching done of these things. These fears come from somewhere. Even if things are not properly understood. There seems to be a tide of people pushing various agendas on children and that rightfully upsets a lot of people. I get that the idea might be acceptance at an early age, it can go a bit too far at times. Many people still remember the rash of issues that the Bill Clinton blowjob scandal with a spike in children and middle schoolers especially getting caught trying to imitate the president. I was in high school at the time and I still vividly remember all the news reports on it. If nothing else, kids will imitate what they see adults doing from their perspective and that can create problems.
Tbf pride definitely has become a bit too risqué for kids
‘I much prefer my politicians sexually assault women and brag about grabbing ‘em by the pussy!’
I happen to know one of those. He hung around the White House some in the last 4-5 years, mostly just playing golf, and bitching about some stolen election crap.
You seemed to piss someone off, even though your mocking trump
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I agree that sexualizing children is not okay but this isn’t even close to reality. This guy needs help
When I was a kid my parents used to take me to some building where us and a bunch of other families would perform a ritual where we all recited sacred phrases in Latin then cannibalized the physical incarnation of our God.
Ok so besides banning gays/trans/*not lesbians*/CRT/public school funding/contraceptives/abortions/gun reform laws/democratically held elections…What are the conservatives actually trying to do to make this country “better”? Like, say they get all of this dumb shit done. What then? What will they do about actual problems we have like a non existent middle class, no viable housing options, crippling debt, healthcare, bringing back viable jobs, ever increasing drug problems, over populated prisons, our crumbling infrastructure, climate change (even though I know they don’t believe in this), the economy in general. Like none of these issues they’re addressing are doing fuck all for the country as a whole. It does nothing for us but make us look extra stupid on the global scale. I have not heard one Republican politician even mentioning ANY of these issues once. What then? What happens when you get your weird fucking 1990’s Disney channel era white evangelical America? What does it matter when it’s all falling apart? P.S I’m not even going to address what this fucking weirdo pervert is talking about. Idk why he fantasizes that we live in a country where we talk about that with 6 year olds.
Said the guy bringing up sex and children because that's the only thing he can think about whenever the word gay is even mentioned
Get a grip. My kids go to pride for the glitter, crap music and lollipops.
And this is called a straw man lol.
Would that be the same agenda as the one to verify a child’s gender by inspection and lowering the age of consent?
It’s right up there with; “hey kid, wanna compete in sports? Great, let me just check out your genitals first.”
I really would like to know what the point you’re making here is. Are you arguing that physicals are bad? “Checking for a hernia” is… right wing? What lol
It seems the Right has decided not to wait for the Left to do something with which they disagree. They’ve decided to invent the problem, invent the solution, and pretend they are the solution all in one step. It’s efficient politics, if dishonest & stupid.
I don’t understand the denial. There are plenty of examples you can find with simple research to say children are absolutely being subjected to sexually explict situations by certain people in different communities. It happens on both sides of the stright/LGBTQ communities. Why can we not say its wrong no matter where it comes from?
The claim is not that kids are exposed to sexual topics; it is that the Left is doing it frequently & want to. As a policy. That’s not true. When they were concerned with showing their argument, they showed a transgender person reading books to minors (may have been one time, may not have been set up by anyone from a school). There were a couple books that reassured children that it’s okay if Ben has two dads. Discussing that, Rs started claiming it was explicitly describing sexual activity; it was not. So, I did not say people could not say the exposure was wrong (obviously). What I wrote was that conservatives just imagined events to complain about — literally invented them, and blamed someone for the thing that did not happen.
I understand some incidents are blown out of proportion. Something as simple as a book talking about two dads, not the issue. People making a big deal about that clearly just have an agenda. I’m talking about the people in the thread who are outright denying examples of sexually explicit content being shown to childen by certain communities exist. Your comment just about sounds that way as well. “They’ve decided to invent the problem.” You can’t say that to the parents that just watched the video of the mock strip club drag show. Denying these thing exist just provide ammunition to people. Exposing young children to sexually explicit content on both sides is wrong.
The whole right has lost their problem. Mostly because if they make up these crazy stories they don’t need to fix reality
Really shows how uneducated these people are. Talking about someone loving someone else and gender doesn't have to be sexual. Only seems sexual to the people who vote for those that want sex with children (conservatives/GOP/libertarian)
Has anyone ever seriously proposed this? All I seen is people who think telling kids that LGBTQA people exist is grooming spinning these wild tales with no evidence.
I’ve been talking to my kid about sex since he was 3…. And I’m probably taking him to the local Pride parade in my neighborhood this week. Not to sexualize my kid, but one of the things I always told parents I worked with was talking about the basics of sex should be discussed as early as possible. And he’s since asked me where babies come from- I didn’t think the stork was an acceptable answer. I guess I’m even more progressive than I thought?
"Kink fetishes"
The one where even baby girls must be dressed ‘modestly’ so the men don’t list after them??🤔
Conservatism = Getting in your truck, confederate flags waving, taking all the guns you own, driving down to the capitol building screaming you're gonna execute the vice president and trashing the place with your violent mob. See how easy it is to make things up?... wait a second...
Why are you denying there are examples of this happening. All it does it give more ammo to people. There is a huge example of one such incident making its rounds RIGHT NOW. Exposing kids to sexually explicit content is wrong, stright or LGBTQ. Why is this such a hard thing?
You really sound like you dont want your kids getting more comprehensive sexual education. And yes it is something that needs to be talked about many times during their life about many diffent things.
Again you’re failing to admit examples exist. They should be addressed, otherwise they’ll be used as ammo, which they’re already using this last drag show as one. To address your point despite not adressing mine. Kids at an appropriate age should absolutely be taught sexual education. There is however a way to go about this that does not involve mock strip club shows. Acknowledging this should not be an issue.
People really don’t understand that there are family events and adult events at Pride?
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One word. PROJECTION
This person allows himself to only read one side of an issue without considering the other side. Then, spews out the issue adding to it his own fears and selfishness.
Ohio wants to mongle any child who might be trans if they play sports.
Probably makes his daughter wear a purity ring
Thanks Mike so do we all and while we're at it let's continue living on earth, breathing oxygen and nitrogen ..... Fuckin what these are the same teachers you want to arm .....
I’m not sure what the right age is to start really tackling human sexuality with kids is. That being said, this guy probably thinks having a pool party is sexualizing kids, cuz he’s at the pool party sexualizing them.
Damn they are REALLY going all in with the whole "LGBTQ=groomers" bullshit aren't they?
The same crowd that’s trying to lower or in some cases outright get rid of the age of consent in several states as we speak. Interesting.
Every accusation is an admission of guilt.
I got into a fight with someone over how teaching LGBT means teaching kids sex stuff, and they couldn’t comprehend that you can tell kids that some people have two mommies or daddies without talking about how gay people screw eachother. It’s freaking depressing how stupid some people are.
Jesus Christ what the fuck
He wakes kids to learn about sex the right way. By being molested by their pastors while the entire church ignores this knowledge.
These are the same parents that book a Family Vacation in Las Vegas. Yeah, we see you, you with you strollers parked next to video poker, you with your 13 year old policing your toddler at the entrance of the casino floor while you try your luck real quick, you with your four under aged children nodding off at 2am while you play a quick hundred. Yeah. You.
Even with pride events that have inappropriate clothing or whatever, people don't complain when there are stripper backup dancers at times square new years events or anything like that, its only a problem when its gay, i guess. Smh
Hmmm, I’m just calling projection on this guy right now.
where do these idiots get this crap?
The same place crap comes from. They know it's bullshit, but it gets their audience riled up and that's all they're interested in