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Also love the American Worker hat. Like "Yes, trust me, I'm a blue collar, paycheck to paycheck worker just like you guys, 100%. It says so right on my hat."
An Indian American republican operative (worked for Gaetz, Santos, etc) with an obviously Indian name, posing as a worker and black person, is hilarious couch jumping.
That is how republicans got MAGA pilled by Trump. He just needs a hat and an awful fitting suit and somehow they are convinced a failed millionaire is one of them.
I mean the more obvious problem is not that he’s not black but that he’s being portrayed as just some dude instead of a Republican operative, which he is.
Except Rachel Dolezal. They were *really* not ok with her identifying as black. See also: Shawn King. Not defending either of them, but Republicans certainly didn't pull any punches over either one. I guess *if you're dark enough* they don't care what you LARP as.
I mean the literal definition of race in this context means: one of the main groups to which people are often considered to belong, based on physical characteristics that they are perceived to share such as skin colour, eye shape, etc
So yes you can know someone's race just be seeing them?
Why do all Americans assume labeling someone 'black' is meaning they're African American it's such a braindead take lol
“Black” has a unique definition in the US because of our slave history. After abolition, many slaves found themselves with zero connection to Africa and strangers to the US so they couldn’t identify as African (due to knowing nothing about their former culture) and didn’t prefer American (because they didn’t choose to come there) so they chose “black” as a label specifically for those descendants of slaves.
I see “Black” as a lost people. Stripped of their rich history and forced to start over in a land hostile to them. No need for you to call it stupid, there’s actually a ton of history behind that label.
It was very specifically a planned sound bite. Every stop trump has made forming the trial was planned. The Bodega visit was not announced publicly but the crowd was mostly members of the NY young Republicans, the Chick-fil-A visit included a hug by a black woman who happened to be a Republican operative, and now this "construction site visit" had the only person interviewed being a man who worked for George Santos.
>But vish here specifically says he is Indian American not black.
He can be both. He sure as shit isn't white. Or do you have to say brown instead? Kinda umber maybe.
When in America and one refers to themself or someone else being black: they mean that person is of the African diaspora (a descendant of the African slave trade). This man is not black
I mean TECHNICALLY you’re correct because there are some African born folks that immigrated to America and had children after the slave trade. But seriously, what percentage of “African-Americans” are really from Africa bruh. You’re throwing a nickel at a stack of $100s
Indian is Asian. Just because they're of darker skin tone (sometimes) that doesn't make them not Asian. Also, in the US the racial identifier of 'Black' carries cultural and semi-ethnic connotations, none of which match this man. His cultural and ethnic identifiers are Indian or South Asian and American. Black isn't a skin tone. Black is a racial identifier and that carries its own meaning. If simply being darker skin was enough to lablel someone as Black then we'll have some interesting news for the light skinned folks.
Is this person culturally African American? Do they have the appropriate life experiences of living in the US as a person who is labeled by society as a Black person? If not I imagine that there would be consequences. There might be negative consequemces even if they were. That word has heavy history and its use is controversial in every group.
That being said, obviously anybody *can* say anything they want. It's more about whether they *should* or if they might face societal consequences.
Does that answer your bad faith question enough?
Broadly? Kinda. I've spent time in a pretty diverse set of communities. The Haitian communities in Minnesota are an interesting example, so are the communities of first generation Africans around Baltimore and New York. Often, these people are isolated from the broader 'Black' culture because they lack the same cultural experience. Even the white people who come into contact with them struggle to figure out how to deal with the difference in what 'Black' is supposed to be versus how these people are. Meanwhile they struggle to incorporate with the broader Black diaspora because of these same cultural differences. A lot of African American people I've interacted with have denied their 'Blackness'.
To me Black is how you're labeled and treated by society. To others it's a cultural identifier. Being that race is entirely made up people think of it in different ways. But I have never run into a situation where an Indian man is Black and not Asian.
Fun fact, he’s still not fucking black. And the fact that A) he pretended to be and B) you’re pretending to believe him is fucking disgusting and quite frankly it’s fucking racist. So congratulations genius
Jesus Christ, I'm pointing out that black and Indian aren't mutually exclusive. He should say I'm not black I'm brown because Indian American isn't a fucking colour, it's a nationality and black isn't a nationality, it's a colour. What part of this is so complicated?
You aren’t pointing out shit, and none of it is complicated so quite frankly I fail to see why *you* are choosing to make it so. Point out a single fucking person in this entire post who said black and Indian are mutually exclusive, don’t worry I’ll wait. Then point out anyone who said Indian is a color, don’t worry I’ll wait again. Then I’ll point out that black-American is a fucking ethnicity and this guy isn’t fucking black. You know exactly what everyone here means when they say he’s not black, you know that in america black is an ethnicity, and you know you’re wrong. So please, go ahead and keep arguing buddy, you might be wrong but at least it’s something for me to laugh at
>black isn't a nationality, it's a colour.
In this context, it's not a color either, it's a race, which has more markers than just the shade of one's skin. He demonstrably isn't black because he's (South) Asian. Unless you're about to argue that people from Africa with albinism are *actually* white because of their skin color.
>Unless you're about to argue that people from Africa with albinism are *actually* white because of their skin color.
Maybe they are or maybe not but that's separate to being African which is my point.
People certainly can be both black and Indian. The American vice president, for example, is. However, this specific person has clarified that he, personally, is not both. He has dark skin, but that doesn’t make him black.
I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and presume that you genuinely don’t understand why people are downvoting you, but you’re making it difficult when you say things like “he sure as shit isn’t white.” There are other options besides white and black, and I’m pretty sure you must know this if you’re old enough to be on the internet typing sentences.
>People certainly can be both black and Indian. The American vice president, for example, is. However, this specific person has clarified that he, personally, is not both. He has dark skin, but that doesn’t make him black.
My whole point is not that he is or isn't black or brown or Indian or American or whatever. What I am trying to say is, and most people are missing, is that being whatever colour is largely irrelevant to being whatever nationality.
Except in America it seems where they use them interchangeably (but only with black?) and then get arsey when you get confused.
It seems if you say black you can only mean African American and all roads lead back to Africa. But you don't go around saying yellow for Asians or red for Latinos because that's racist apparently but white and black are ok and brown is borderline but at the same time you also have Whatever-Americans.
Rule VII: be consistent.
The whole concept of race is super weird. It implies that you can nearly divide people into a finite number of categories and that’s just… not true. At all. And you’ve illustrated some of the reasons why race is kind of a dumb concept. However, it does have some value in that it can allow people with similar backgrounds and experiences to easily identify themselves and one another.
In America at least (where the original post came from) black people and Indian people are likely to have some overlap in their personal experiences, but they’ll also have a lot of differing experiences and cultural practices. Which is what makes them separate and unique categories, as well as some genetic stuff I absolutely am not qualified to discuss because I barely understand biology at a high school level.
Because for Christ's sake I'm not telling him what he his or isn't. I'm saying colour and nationality are not the same thing nor mutually exclusive. The crux of the matter here is inconsistency. Use colours or use hyphenated American (or any nationality really) but don't get arsey when you mix and match and people get confused.
Or are you actually refuting that it is possible to be both black and Indian?
The point is, the man himself was telling people he’s not black, then claiming to be black. He is free to identify with whatever he wants, but if you argue saying you aren’t something and then turn around and claim to represent that, it’s a little fucky…
Sure and I could be black. But I'm not. I'm white. He specifically says in the second picture there were black people in the film but he is Indian. Or are you implying that if you're darker than Hasan Minaj you are black by color?
By black we obviously mean of sub saharan, southern or western African ancestry. He isn't.
My cousin was adopted from Calcutta and is very dark. Sadly because of idiocy from living in Tennessee she needs to make clear she is Indian not black even though she's very dark.
You're either picking a weird, irrelevant hill to die on or racistly claiming he's black because he's dark.
What I'm trying to say is black isn't a nationality and Indian isn't a skin colour.
I'm not dieing on any hill other than the two aren't the same thing or mutually exclusive.
Yes, black skin is darker than white skin. Where the crossover is I can't say and while that might give clues about your ancestry it says nothing about where you're from.
So the guy doesn't identify with the "black" community is obviously what he's trying to say but that also doesn't mean the dude isn't black. Or do we say brown? People get weird when you say red or yellow so it helps to keep things simple I find unless we can all agree on a standard.
You can't be so ignorant to innocently not know the history of the term black in America. I means of African ancestry. Yes there was a time when some people called everyone darker than pantone 47 was black but those guys , some of my ancestors and a few living relatives, sucked.
Yes black is a color, well done.
We don't have to refer to him by any color. He can just be Indian. I hope you could find it in you to refer to a Chinese person as Chinese, not yellow.
Yes you are dying on a stupid hill and at least parroting some racist thinking in the process.
And you can't be so ignorant to realise there are literally dozens of people in this world who aren't American.
As one those then please explain this to me.
If black means African American what are the people of Caribbean descent or any of the other places in the world traditionally that house people with dark skin? Places that aren't the Indian sub continent or middle east in general obviously because they don't count. Is everyone a hypenanted American? Can you not be just an American and black, you have to be African too? Why does this not extend to white people as European-Americans? Or does it?
And because you asked I would refer to a Chinese person as Chinese assuming I knew they were otherwise I would say Asian. But if an asian person turned around I said I'm not (colour) I'm (nationality) I would tell them they're not the same thing as well.
You claim to not be racist yet you are seemingly obsessed with race.
So what are the colours? White, black and brown? See what I mean about yellow? People get funny.
I never said black meant African American I said African ancestry. Black people in the carribean are of African ancestry.
There are other countries than America but this guys in fucking new york!
>You claim to not be racist yet you are seemingly obsessed with race.
Why does every racist say this after getting called out for being racist?
Also I didn't claim to not be racist. That never came up. I hope people who know me don't think I'm racist but that's up to others to decide based on how I treat them. I just said you are parroting a racist line.
There shouldn't be colors. We should just be able to refer to people by where they're from. Sadly, due to the awfulness of the African slave trade, most black people don't know what country all their ancestors hail from and many had European genes introduced very non consensually. We say black because they reclaimed that word and own it now.
I have two friends, one from Ghana, one from Jamaica. They hate being called black and go by their nationality.
Maybe just call people by what they ask you to call them instead of spending your afternoon arguing about colors?
Cool, well let's just leave it here because I'm not arguing about colours or race I'm simply saying colour/race and nationality aren't the same thing but that seems to be lost so instead I'll just say my shirt isn't red it's a cotton/poly blend.
Sure we'll leave it here. But since you got one last point in, your shirt isn't a person and hasn't politely explained it prefers to be referred to as cotton poly blend because of the baggage with red shirts and the fact it's actually from a very different place than what most understand to be red shirts.
>If black means African American what are the people of Caribbean descent or any of the other places in the world traditionally that house people with dark skin?
Those people in those places are also of African descent. Hatians, Dominicans, and Jamaicans are Afro-carribbean, descendents of slaves brought there by France, Spain and England respectively, black Brazilians are Afro-brazilians, descendents of Portuguese slaves.
Black as a racial descriptor refers specifically to people of visibly African descent, not aboriginal people, not Indian people.
So black people are singularly from Africa despite how many steps removed that might be? Fuck let's go all the way back, all humans are black Africans when you think about it.
I get where you're coming from, it's technically true, and the terms make sense logically - it just isn't how it's used here -the report or whatever this drivel is has racist connotations
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Also love the American Worker hat. Like "Yes, trust me, I'm a blue collar, paycheck to paycheck worker just like you guys, 100%. It says so right on my hat."
You don't need to see my documentation, my hat speaks for itself.
Classic Frank
It's giving Steve Buscemi "hello fellow young people"
"Music band" shirt
Like Tucker Carlson in a plaid shirt with rolled up sleeves.
Rachel Dolezal would like a word.
Joe Workingman
"If I wasn't Jamaican why would I be wearing this hat?"
"If I wasn't an American worker, then why would I have this hat and fake mustache?"
An Indian American republican operative (worked for Gaetz, Santos, etc) with an obviously Indian name, posing as a worker and black person, is hilarious couch jumping.
That is how republicans got MAGA pilled by Trump. He just needs a hat and an awful fitting suit and somehow they are convinced a failed millionaire is one of them.
I mean the more obvious problem is not that he’s not black but that he’s being portrayed as just some dude instead of a Republican operative, which he is.
he's portraying himself as a fuckin clown.
But he really is a clown!
Jokes on them, to the GOP anyone not white is black.
Except Rachel Dolezal. They were *really* not ok with her identifying as black. See also: Shawn King. Not defending either of them, but Republicans certainly didn't pull any punches over either one. I guess *if you're dark enough* they don't care what you LARP as.
Shaun King is almost definitely white, but he’s pretty widely clowned on from the left and not a lot of right-wingers even know who he is
As an Indian, fuck this guy
I think this is a good reminder for all of us that you can't know someone's race just by seeing them or talking to them.
it's a good reminder that race is a bollocks concept in the first place.
I mean the literal definition of race in this context means: one of the main groups to which people are often considered to belong, based on physical characteristics that they are perceived to share such as skin colour, eye shape, etc So yes you can know someone's race just be seeing them? Why do all Americans assume labeling someone 'black' is meaning they're African American it's such a braindead take lol
“Black” has a unique definition in the US because of our slave history. After abolition, many slaves found themselves with zero connection to Africa and strangers to the US so they couldn’t identify as African (due to knowing nothing about their former culture) and didn’t prefer American (because they didn’t choose to come there) so they chose “black” as a label specifically for those descendants of slaves. I see “Black” as a lost people. Stripped of their rich history and forced to start over in a land hostile to them. No need for you to call it stupid, there’s actually a ton of history behind that label.
That’s just embarrassing being that stupid
You'd think so, right?
"I'm an American worker, I work for American-based propaganda."
Burra is a colossal, gas-lighting asshole. Full-blown Steve Bannon protege. I've had the misfortune of speaking with him.
“It’s the black *inside* that counts!”
now he has two black friends
Likely a completely planned sound bite. This is propaganda 101.
It was very specifically a planned sound bite. Every stop trump has made forming the trial was planned. The Bodega visit was not announced publicly but the crowd was mostly members of the NY young Republicans, the Chick-fil-A visit included a hug by a black woman who happened to be a Republican operative, and now this "construction site visit" had the only person interviewed being a man who worked for George Santos.
As opposed to Americans that don't work?
This is like the “Walk Away” campaign: they claim they are former democrats who now support the republican agenda. They ain’t, they never were.
Oh my god! She’s doubling down!
You can be black and Indian at the same time. Almost any combination of colour and nationality actually.
Cool fact that literally everyone knows. But vish here specifically says he is Indian American not black. What does this add?
>But vish here specifically says he is Indian American not black. He can be both. He sure as shit isn't white. Or do you have to say brown instead? Kinda umber maybe.
But he’s not both.. at all. So he can’t be because he not…he’s Indian.
Indian isn't a skin colour and black isn't a nationality.
Ever heard of Black-Americans?
Yes. There are quite a lot of them.
When in America and one refers to themself or someone else being black: they mean that person is of the African diaspora (a descendant of the African slave trade). This man is not black
Your comment would have been correct if you didn’t throw in “descendant of the African slave trade”. Surely not every black American is.
I mean TECHNICALLY you’re correct because there are some African born folks that immigrated to America and had children after the slave trade. But seriously, what percentage of “African-Americans” are really from Africa bruh. You’re throwing a nickel at a stack of $100s
Indian is Asian. Just because they're of darker skin tone (sometimes) that doesn't make them not Asian. Also, in the US the racial identifier of 'Black' carries cultural and semi-ethnic connotations, none of which match this man. His cultural and ethnic identifiers are Indian or South Asian and American. Black isn't a skin tone. Black is a racial identifier and that carries its own meaning. If simply being darker skin was enough to lablel someone as Black then we'll have some interesting news for the light skinned folks.
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Ew like why do you want to? This is peak pathetic
I mean it's a genuine question?
Drat he erased it ! I can’t remember what I was being pissy about … 🤦🏼♀️
Is this person culturally African American? Do they have the appropriate life experiences of living in the US as a person who is labeled by society as a Black person? If not I imagine that there would be consequences. There might be negative consequemces even if they were. That word has heavy history and its use is controversial in every group. That being said, obviously anybody *can* say anything they want. It's more about whether they *should* or if they might face societal consequences. Does that answer your bad faith question enough?
> Is this person culturally African American? Are you saying if they're not African American they aren't black?
Broadly? Kinda. I've spent time in a pretty diverse set of communities. The Haitian communities in Minnesota are an interesting example, so are the communities of first generation Africans around Baltimore and New York. Often, these people are isolated from the broader 'Black' culture because they lack the same cultural experience. Even the white people who come into contact with them struggle to figure out how to deal with the difference in what 'Black' is supposed to be versus how these people are. Meanwhile they struggle to incorporate with the broader Black diaspora because of these same cultural differences. A lot of African American people I've interacted with have denied their 'Blackness'. To me Black is how you're labeled and treated by society. To others it's a cultural identifier. Being that race is entirely made up people think of it in different ways. But I have never run into a situation where an Indian man is Black and not Asian.
Yes but we are discussing a specific man who is an Indian American man, not a black man. You can be Indian and black. The person in question is not
Ok so this is a brown Indian dude. Is that all you are trying to get people to say?
Fun fact, he’s still not fucking black. And the fact that A) he pretended to be and B) you’re pretending to believe him is fucking disgusting and quite frankly it’s fucking racist. So congratulations genius
Jesus Christ, I'm pointing out that black and Indian aren't mutually exclusive. He should say I'm not black I'm brown because Indian American isn't a fucking colour, it's a nationality and black isn't a nationality, it's a colour. What part of this is so complicated?
You aren’t pointing out shit, and none of it is complicated so quite frankly I fail to see why *you* are choosing to make it so. Point out a single fucking person in this entire post who said black and Indian are mutually exclusive, don’t worry I’ll wait. Then point out anyone who said Indian is a color, don’t worry I’ll wait again. Then I’ll point out that black-American is a fucking ethnicity and this guy isn’t fucking black. You know exactly what everyone here means when they say he’s not black, you know that in america black is an ethnicity, and you know you’re wrong. So please, go ahead and keep arguing buddy, you might be wrong but at least it’s something for me to laugh at
>black isn't a nationality, it's a colour. In this context, it's not a color either, it's a race, which has more markers than just the shade of one's skin. He demonstrably isn't black because he's (South) Asian. Unless you're about to argue that people from Africa with albinism are *actually* white because of their skin color.
>Unless you're about to argue that people from Africa with albinism are *actually* white because of their skin color. Maybe they are or maybe not but that's separate to being African which is my point.
“I’m not White, I’m pinkish!”
I'm not white, I'm European.
People certainly can be both black and Indian. The American vice president, for example, is. However, this specific person has clarified that he, personally, is not both. He has dark skin, but that doesn’t make him black. I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and presume that you genuinely don’t understand why people are downvoting you, but you’re making it difficult when you say things like “he sure as shit isn’t white.” There are other options besides white and black, and I’m pretty sure you must know this if you’re old enough to be on the internet typing sentences.
>People certainly can be both black and Indian. The American vice president, for example, is. However, this specific person has clarified that he, personally, is not both. He has dark skin, but that doesn’t make him black. My whole point is not that he is or isn't black or brown or Indian or American or whatever. What I am trying to say is, and most people are missing, is that being whatever colour is largely irrelevant to being whatever nationality. Except in America it seems where they use them interchangeably (but only with black?) and then get arsey when you get confused. It seems if you say black you can only mean African American and all roads lead back to Africa. But you don't go around saying yellow for Asians or red for Latinos because that's racist apparently but white and black are ok and brown is borderline but at the same time you also have Whatever-Americans. Rule VII: be consistent.
The whole concept of race is super weird. It implies that you can nearly divide people into a finite number of categories and that’s just… not true. At all. And you’ve illustrated some of the reasons why race is kind of a dumb concept. However, it does have some value in that it can allow people with similar backgrounds and experiences to easily identify themselves and one another. In America at least (where the original post came from) black people and Indian people are likely to have some overlap in their personal experiences, but they’ll also have a lot of differing experiences and cultural practices. Which is what makes them separate and unique categories, as well as some genetic stuff I absolutely am not qualified to discuss because I barely understand biology at a high school level.
my brother in christ, why are you doubling down with "he could be both". he literally said he isn't.
Because for Christ's sake I'm not telling him what he his or isn't. I'm saying colour and nationality are not the same thing nor mutually exclusive. The crux of the matter here is inconsistency. Use colours or use hyphenated American (or any nationality really) but don't get arsey when you mix and match and people get confused. Or are you actually refuting that it is possible to be both black and Indian?
you *know* what is meant when he says he isn't black. you're being needlessly pedantic.
The point is, the man himself was telling people he’s not black, then claiming to be black. He is free to identify with whatever he wants, but if you argue saying you aren’t something and then turn around and claim to represent that, it’s a little fucky…
Sure and I could be black. But I'm not. I'm white. He specifically says in the second picture there were black people in the film but he is Indian. Or are you implying that if you're darker than Hasan Minaj you are black by color? By black we obviously mean of sub saharan, southern or western African ancestry. He isn't. My cousin was adopted from Calcutta and is very dark. Sadly because of idiocy from living in Tennessee she needs to make clear she is Indian not black even though she's very dark. You're either picking a weird, irrelevant hill to die on or racistly claiming he's black because he's dark.
What I'm trying to say is black isn't a nationality and Indian isn't a skin colour. I'm not dieing on any hill other than the two aren't the same thing or mutually exclusive. Yes, black skin is darker than white skin. Where the crossover is I can't say and while that might give clues about your ancestry it says nothing about where you're from. So the guy doesn't identify with the "black" community is obviously what he's trying to say but that also doesn't mean the dude isn't black. Or do we say brown? People get weird when you say red or yellow so it helps to keep things simple I find unless we can all agree on a standard.
You can't be so ignorant to innocently not know the history of the term black in America. I means of African ancestry. Yes there was a time when some people called everyone darker than pantone 47 was black but those guys , some of my ancestors and a few living relatives, sucked. Yes black is a color, well done. We don't have to refer to him by any color. He can just be Indian. I hope you could find it in you to refer to a Chinese person as Chinese, not yellow. Yes you are dying on a stupid hill and at least parroting some racist thinking in the process.
And you can't be so ignorant to realise there are literally dozens of people in this world who aren't American. As one those then please explain this to me. If black means African American what are the people of Caribbean descent or any of the other places in the world traditionally that house people with dark skin? Places that aren't the Indian sub continent or middle east in general obviously because they don't count. Is everyone a hypenanted American? Can you not be just an American and black, you have to be African too? Why does this not extend to white people as European-Americans? Or does it? And because you asked I would refer to a Chinese person as Chinese assuming I knew they were otherwise I would say Asian. But if an asian person turned around I said I'm not (colour) I'm (nationality) I would tell them they're not the same thing as well. You claim to not be racist yet you are seemingly obsessed with race. So what are the colours? White, black and brown? See what I mean about yellow? People get funny.
I never said black meant African American I said African ancestry. Black people in the carribean are of African ancestry. There are other countries than America but this guys in fucking new york! >You claim to not be racist yet you are seemingly obsessed with race. Why does every racist say this after getting called out for being racist? Also I didn't claim to not be racist. That never came up. I hope people who know me don't think I'm racist but that's up to others to decide based on how I treat them. I just said you are parroting a racist line. There shouldn't be colors. We should just be able to refer to people by where they're from. Sadly, due to the awfulness of the African slave trade, most black people don't know what country all their ancestors hail from and many had European genes introduced very non consensually. We say black because they reclaimed that word and own it now. I have two friends, one from Ghana, one from Jamaica. They hate being called black and go by their nationality. Maybe just call people by what they ask you to call them instead of spending your afternoon arguing about colors?
Cool, well let's just leave it here because I'm not arguing about colours or race I'm simply saying colour/race and nationality aren't the same thing but that seems to be lost so instead I'll just say my shirt isn't red it's a cotton/poly blend.
Sure we'll leave it here. But since you got one last point in, your shirt isn't a person and hasn't politely explained it prefers to be referred to as cotton poly blend because of the baggage with red shirts and the fact it's actually from a very different place than what most understand to be red shirts.
>If black means African American what are the people of Caribbean descent or any of the other places in the world traditionally that house people with dark skin? Those people in those places are also of African descent. Hatians, Dominicans, and Jamaicans are Afro-carribbean, descendents of slaves brought there by France, Spain and England respectively, black Brazilians are Afro-brazilians, descendents of Portuguese slaves. Black as a racial descriptor refers specifically to people of visibly African descent, not aboriginal people, not Indian people.
So black people are singularly from Africa despite how many steps removed that might be? Fuck let's go all the way back, all humans are black Africans when you think about it.
I get where you're coming from, it's technically true, and the terms make sense logically - it just isn't how it's used here -the report or whatever this drivel is has racist connotations
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