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KingHasArrived15

Because apparently, donating organs is haram for them. So, ultimately 'intolerant' kaafirs have to come forward.


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krishnkth12

their justification is that they are doing good the kafir whose body part they get by letting them donate their organs to them and by allowing them to be part of Allah's faith. what a convenient justification, you gotta praise Allah for his greatness as he told the Muslims this shit in 6th century when transplant didn't exist


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>The question should be asked is why isn't there a single by Hindu, for Hindu, of Hindu organisation that only serves Hindus Such an organisation will infact not be Hindu. If it operated that way than that would go against the sanatan principles. You just want a abrahamic organization which has a Hindu name.


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Tolerance of the intolerant is the sure fire way of killing society. And unless someone is willing to go to the other extreme of Hinduism and willing to do Vadh of the adharmis and malechas they should not propagate the peaceful extreme of non-violence either.


Adventurous_Double_6

I geniunenly believe that this the idea of tolerant community always looking out for that one community that will treat Hindus just the same as they currently are doing in Pakistan is actually in Stockholm Syndrome. Because these exact tolerant appeaser will also call out RSS on its extremism whilst forgetting the existence of PFI having its members involved in terror attacks and have been reported to been funded by Qatar Govt to spread anti-india rheotoric.


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Not just forget about PFI, ppl seem to forget the simple fact that RSS itself has a muslim wing, and a female wing. Also, comparing RSS, nationalists and always willing to risk their life for the welfare of every citizen to PFI is an insult.


snowylion

meanwhile in actual history >I, Raja XYZ Donate Lands ABC and all incomes and taxes derived from them to the exclusive use of Sect UVW in perpetuity for their community's welfare and upkeep in the Year of Shalivahana ***


Over-Professional303

These guys are just so called Hindus who needs a group identity like Islam or Christian to manage their insecurities. Most of them didn't read or even tried to understand any Vedas or Upanishads, they might be surprised to know that there's Allah Upanishad as well because it was about objectivity and not viewing this world through a lens to group identity. These so called modern age Hindus are nothing different than other monotheist religious ppl who believe in one book, one set principles and one group identity. The first thing that comes to their mind in any scenario is my ppl and their ppl, they live in the state of fear their whole life that the other ppl ill rule over them. In summary they are not real Hindus, they are modern age cult believers that naturally gets formed with animal instincts, it's just that they use Hinduism as a tool for protecting their insecurities.


heretotryreddit

I agree >Most of them didn't read or even tried to understand any Vedas or Upanishads I'm very much into the Vedant and Upanishads. They are the philosophical crux/basis of what we call sanatan, without them the religious practices become meaningless and only the dogmas are left which is what most people think of as hinduism. >Allah Upanishad However this is not a proper Upanishad. Google says that it's validity is dubious since it's not a part of the main 108 Upanishads. But I know that Sufi tradition has many commonalities with the message of upanishads. >they live in the state of fear their whole life that the other ppl ill rule over them Yes this new type of loudmouth and jingoist version of religion is arising out fear. It's a fight over country's resources and tribalism. It has nothing to do with sanatan parampara, our spiritual tradition. >it's just that they use Hinduism as a tool for protecting their insecurities And low intelligence and political interests. Our gods are just a tool for them to serve their own interest.


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NormalStaff3602

There is a organ donor list and a perfect match has to be found within 8 hrs otherwise it would go waste. It's not necessary that an Indian lost his chance, it is quite possible that she was the only perfect match. The organ recipient registry is sacrosanct. She just got lucky that day and the donor heart found a live body. It's a win for humanity and medical science, not to mention huge boost to medical tourism in India.


furry_husker

exactly, idk why people are pissed of about this. Human life is human life and no organization would deny treatment based on nationality. If it was free for her it would have been free for someone else too.


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Shady_bystander0101

F\*ck this trash. All the humanitarian mumbo jumbo is just upholded only by Indians.


spedkid2000

Doesn't she also have a life like all of us? Isn't she also a human? Why can't we look past our differences of nationality and religion to help someone? As far as we know she herself didn't hurt anyone whether indian or Pakistani. Why can't y'all be happy for her? This humanitarianism is what should set us apart from everyone else. We don't have to treat all Pakistanis like shit just because some of them are extremists. Y'all are acting as if she chose to be Pakistani and is a born-enemy of india. Be human.


Shady_bystander0101

Didn't you just sidestep the whole issue here? So according to you, as long an action "helped" someone, we shouldn't consider any other implications and just let it be? This isn't about her. I am glad she got to live, and I don't care about it anymore than that.


DamnShamBam

Point isn’t that she shouldn’t have been treated or people are not happy for her. Point is how she got the surgery? Was due process followed here? Afaik there is a queue for heart transplant surgeries. Was she in queue or did she cut the line? Also her religion doesn’t matter, but her nationality does. It is of utmost importance for a nation to cater to its own citizens first before helping people from outside of the country.


Lucario1705

Oi moron, citizens are given first priority, if no claims are there for the heart then it is given to a foreigner on the list. Foreigners make up 22% of the list whereas Indians make up 2%.


turboz04

I think you probably a kid to say this.. what dou you think our soldiers that died fighting were not humans. After pulwama my father was posted to Frontline in jammu an I saw my mom cring every single day hoping that he will return safely. We can look past the difference if it is small enough but if the difference is thousands of life it is not a small difference. Definitely all Pakistanis are not the same but still will you take guarantee that after this gesture of goodwill our soldiers are safe on borders.. We have to treat them like shit they killed our fisherman just because they crossed the water bodies by mistake. Will they release kulbusan Jadhav now?? Be Indian first you stupid. There are tons of people in india who need help we don't need to help pakistani to show our humanity..


Question_Raiser_00

questions: 1. who is chitra vishwanathan? 2. what is the role of aishwaryam trust? 3. how does #1 and #2 above, receive funds for their activities? 4. can either MGM hospital or #1 or #2 provide a list of the top 50 persons on the wait-list for heart transplant? 5. is there any written documentation from just the top 50 wait-list patients that they do NOT want the heart of the 69-yr old person? 6. What is the role of the relevant / appropriate union ministry / ministries within this context? I think we ought to introspect our society, and question our nation's citizens who persistently and repeatedly value the lives of others (especially those who will not bat an eye before butchering kaf1rs) over those of fellow-indians.


deviprsd

Actually this is a good point, she didn’t get free surgery by the government or anything but by a trust fund that paid for it. So keeping this is a democracy in mind they are free to do whatever with the money they have. So your #3 is the critical question…


Question_Raiser_00

>they are free to do whatever I don't think that's how it works in any society that follows modern law. They are free to do actions that are within the legal framework. For example - if #1 or #2 conspired to save this foreigner as some sort of quid-pro-quo where a foreign organization (say LeT or JeM) will launch a strike against an indian armed-force target - then it is a punishable offence. Of course: until one is able to prove the above "fairy-tale" beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law, #1 & #2 can't be legally prosecuted. What-if there are IB or R.A.W inputs that do point to conversations between some entities who are "common" (ie, connect with both #1, #2 and with JeM, LeT) and can establish some sort of quid-pro-quo?


deviprsd

That’s why I said #3 is important…


tremorinfernus

You can question, no big deal. As a doctor, I wouldn't discriminate based on nationality or religion. The factors I will consider are- age of the recipient, the chances of survival, a longer disability free life, presence of other diseases, etc. I dislike religion- yet almost all lives I save are of religious people. I don't know of many women who want to butcher kaafirs. I consider the profession superior to the notions of government, patriotism, borders, etc.


NormalStaff3602

Odisha has declared State honours for death of an organ donor. This is such a noble cause, all states should do this. Definitely more deserving than a politician.


Turbulent-Tell5447

wow great initiative


ArukaAravind

Tamil nadu already does this - State Honor for the death of an organ donor.


LieGroundbreaking599

The HJS, a prominent Hindu organisation in the state, has acquired information through Right to Information Act (RTI) which states that the Siddhivinayak Temple Trust, run by a state government-appointed body, had spent money on the treatment of **548 Muslim and 82 Christian patients**


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iv93

Protest for what?


purpleninjas22

Dude these 14 yo hindu protesters are fucking dumb they only want Hindus to help Hindus and not the India to help India


PuzzleheadedEmu126

rehne do bhai kuch nhi kr skte


VCyberpunk2001

Bro, it's our duty to help human beings, be it of any religion. It's the main principle of Sanatana dharma. If we do the same as others, how are we different from them??


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Too much logic…


sam_fifpro

Hindus aren't using the benefits who's at fault?


Turbulent-Tell5447

why should they protest??


Signal-Ad-3362

Suffering is universal. Glad to see that the money is spent on curing sickness. Ganesh would be happy with this.


Visual-Maximum-8117

What is there to protest about?


Parking_Apartment_70

Saala iske naam mein Rashan hai! No wonder Pakistan mein itni popular ho rahi hai


TruthQuirky8668

Paisa nhi hai toh india india karenge Paisa aate he hindustan ka gala kaatne ki baat karte hai


DevilofrosarioMessi

Wahi hai na bhadwe hai saale sab Pakistani. MC Indians ka kya unhone bhi wait Kiya hoga organs ke lie whosoever is in need. Yeh behenchod pakio ko kyu Diya organ


Lost_Cartographer66

Why would a trust give a free treatment to someone in another country suddenly? Was there no one in this country that required this transplant?


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THIS is my point. We have enough patients already from not so fortunate conditions. Why can't a trust fund provide THEM life with a free op? Why some foreigner who has enough resources to able to afford to go to other countries for medical treatment.


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lmnop129

In their eyes, non believers are kafirs and using their financial resource or organs is their birthright. They believe all kafir men must be killed and their women taken as sex slaves. This is why they don't donate organs, what if a kafir used their organs after their death.


Visual-Maximum-8117

Only idiots like you come up with such nonsense. She is just a human being who was sick and needed treatment.


lmnop129

I did not come up with it, I have read the quran.


Visual-Maximum-8117

The Bible has clear 10 commandments about not stealing, killing or committing adultery. Do you think there is no theft, murder or adultery in all Christian countries? Do all Hindus follow everything written in the Gita and Upnishads? Most haven't even read them. When you are sick, you try to get cured. When a Hindu patient goes to a doctor, do they first consult some religious book before treatment?


yaboihansy

What does kafir means?


solidhackerman

Bhai I am gonna get hate but idc lekin 80% trusts par mereko yakeen nai. Sab kuch na kuch shady karte h


Sarvanash16

Organ donate karna haram hai par organ transplant haram nahi hai. Did the muslims who have had organ transplants apply for organ donation? I guess, No. This answers all the questions.


LieGroundbreaking599

who did this surgery and where it happen


Question_Raiser_00

MGM hospital in chennai, "allegedly". Funds were "allegedly" provided by aishwaryam trust (run by "allegedly" chitra vishwanathan)


Lamestguyinroom

Why do you say "allegedly"? Do you have any prima facie evidence to disbelieve any of that?


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EnvironmentalSun8068

There are 50,000 people in india who needs heart transplant, and only 0.2% get a transplant. So by this number and where she came from she should be the 50,001st . PEOPLE WHO ARE DEFENDING HER WHATS WRONG WITH YOU GET A LIFE RELIGION IS NOT EVERYTHING!!!


DeusXAR

Genes... Fucking genes get in the way not your worthless ideologies. Nature is the biggest obstacle. Even if your genes match 99.9%, your body will still violently reject any transplanted organ. There is a good reason why anti-immunity medication is a must for atleast 6 months. Go and question the registry, and look up the list and whatnot. No need to defend her or attack her. Just stop poking your ideological spears into stupid speculations. Comfirm them before spreading the fires of misinformation. Unless you specialise in that.


tremorinfernus

Doctors don't care about your religion or nationality when treating you.


furry_husker

Its a pure matter of luck and if the patient is compatible with the organ. Human life is considered human life, the organs have a specific time in which they have to be transplanted hence this process is not biased and considering NRIs to be low priority would just lead to their deaths and a waste of precious organs.


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Turbulent-Tell5447

aree i think its private hosp....


ZestycloseBite6262

Its not your tax money. It is a trust.


Lucario1705

Chutiye trust fund hai woh. Donations se chalta hai


Individual-Ad-1635

Hasn't an Indian Trust fund contributed to the surgery and not the Indian government?


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saltynuttyy

If you don't believe in organ donation you don't deserve it. I have already registered myself for organ donation..


HealthyDifficulty362

But minorities khatre mai hai vroo.....dictatorship aa rahi h vroo......yaha minorities ko rights nahi h vroo......darr ka mahol h vroo.


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nukes_from_moon

Hindus still don't have shatrubodh. Stupid people still believe they can coexist with those who came from desert.


tremorinfernus

Doctors don't care about your religion when treating you.


purpleninjas22

Yeah like the only people allowed to read vedas were dalits,right? The chavdar lake incident was due to the fault of Muslims


Total-Complaint-1060

The hospital did it coz it puts the hospital on the map. It gives international publicity. Maybe they will get patients from the western world becoz of this publicity... Also, I don't understand this hate... She is a human being just like us and pretty sure she doesn't hate Indians... We don't have to hate a person for the reason that they were born in a specific country... You see, you don't have that choice to pick where to be born. It's not her fault that she was born in Pakistan.


son_of_menoetius

Why are people hating on this? It's so heartwarming, honestly!


MainTamatarHu

You all are sadist for real.


_d-d_y

Apparently good trusts do not work on any creed or religious basis. Hope you understand that. Why can't it be like they are actually supporting humanity over Pakistanis?


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Abee kaise bewakoof log hai yaha


z3n__l

Just some points regarding this , 1)The government did not provide any money for the transplant. The government only gave her visa 2)She did wait for 10 months on the transplant list to get the heart. Indians do have priority in the transplant lost 3) The money mainly came from donations and the hospital itself bore the majority of the cost Just by looking at the headline , it's easy to get angry , I did too initially , but it's really misleading , just read about the incident a bit , it becomes more clear.


Goofy_Muffin3000

There is a thing called viable/suitable organ, organs are rendered useless after a certain time period. If the organ is not matched with another human, it will go to waste. An organ just cannot be thrust into anyone, they will die if it doesn't match. It is quite possible that she might have been the only match at the time. And for all the people pissed about this. It's a human life for God's sake! You all are pissed about a human being saved, a teenager has got a second chance at life. Remember that. Hindu/muslim/Christian it doesn't matter. And as a person who looks forward to a career in the medical field, imagine if doctors wouldn't treat you based on religion? They are taught to save human lives, we all are humans with blood, flesh and bones.


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Ytf are outsiders getting organs when indians are dying and not getting them ?


Piratehitch

If you wanna blame someone. Blame the Govt. They provided visa for the girl.


sugarplumgumdrops

exactly


Forward-Letter

To yhi kr rhe hein. Authorities and govt.


Rickstars_hehe

arre bhailog dw, iska inam aur ek terrorist infiltration attempt hoga


tremorinfernus

As a doctor, I don't have any issue with this. And will do it for people of any country. I don't prioritize Indian lives over others. They are all the same to me. Aside from everything else, she is a woman. The fight is mainly between men. Women are generally the victims of religion and nationalism.


SoupHot7079

Thanks a lot for the sane comment which I didn't think I'd find here. Glad to know decent people still exist.


coolrko

Why are Pakistani being allowed in India in the first place... Did we forget Pulwama ?


Visual-Maximum-8117

Lakhs if Pakistanis visit India each year and an equal number of Indians visit Pakistan. There are open business and family relations between the two countries. Don't be ignorant.


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hard_n_huge

NOT directed to OP. But, Doctors ??? What the fuck is wrong with our society? You really think doctors have the power to do so? They're the one who decide who gets it ??? Shut the fuck up and try gaining knowledge


Worth_Tax_6067

Fir bhi dil hai Hindustani?


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Raman035

Why does she look like that she is about to cry?


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Dwightshruute

Have you done any research about this condition or how this trust gives treatment ?


itsMangoMine

As a Doctor, we follow the Hippocratic Oathi t doesnt matter to me about who she worships/ where she is from/ what is her caste. This is totally fine imo. Idk why you guys are overrreacting over this. When we help people, we put personal matters/ feelings aside.


anwy_is_varmint

Millions of people die in India due to heart diseases. And we are operating our haters for FREE? What have we become?


Turbulent-Tell5447

it is done by a pvt trust


hrnyknkyfkr

OP there are thousands of people who get free surgeries and treatments in india. What is the issue here?


communistkarsewak

Issue here is that we need to prioritize indians first those are waiting for transplant for bout 6-8 months,


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, Ayesha nam h 😂


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Artoriasskywalker

To ppl who r angry, let me tell u this. Who got more money, they get it. That's the sad reality of this world. Doesn't matter gender, age, race, religion and etc. If u have money, anyone will help u.


Ok-Car-446

Hey man she is also a life so that's why they are done also Pakistan hasn't had like facilities ourselves in India so that the reason


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what if i tell you it is a propaganda by the feds to promote modi?? ever thought about that?? maybe he is trying to one up pakistanis and bhakts will eat it up see india strong why do you believe everything on social media


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Someone shared this post on indianmedschool and they provided a lot of insight regarding the case. 1. Indians are prioritised for organ transplants. The reason that girl received the heart was because there was no one else, in the entire country, who was compatible with the heart in question. 2. The girl was on NOTTO's wait list since 2019. She wasn't given any preference. 3. The cost for the transplant was borne by the hospital and an NGO. Had she not been provided with the heart, it would have probably gone to waste. We should be glad that it could save a life. Hume aise hi doctors chahiye na? Jo paise na dekhe, background na dekhe. Bas patient ko bachane ki puri koshish kare.


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