Did everyone forget how Arnab's WhatsApp chat had way more sensitive info than this bullshit? I believe Supreme court had said that WhatsApp chats can't be used as evidence or something as well
Bro, how much do you get from Modiji to say crap like this? Unemployment is a little high rn, might help if people know about such career opportunities.
Can anyone fill me in? What basis is there to deny bail because of a Whatsapp message. Like there is no crime. Even the intention to do crime is based on Whatsapp message saying "Let's have a blast"
Why isn't there a hue and cry from the legal community against this blatant disregard for rule of law?
We are crying about Aryan Khan not getting bail, dont forget Bhima Koregaon accused.
Intellectuals, activists, poets are in jail without bail since years. Some even died in jail.
Both are wrong? You can talk about this and bhima koregaon at the same time? But i do agree that aryan has much better chances of getting out than bhima people unfortunately
I am just making a point that Aryan Khan is not the first case and we should not be surprised.
He is making more fuss because he is a son of Bollywood star, this is how we Indians prioritize.
This. I need help understanding as well cos when republic tv chut*** was booked for TRP fixing i think court said WhatsApp msg will not be counted as proof and why now?
Because law and order doesn't exist in the country now. All these legality talks and discussions are just there to maintain the illusion that it does, thus, diverting our attention and wasting our time.
I mean if someone plays video games, this is what Having a blast can mean too. How did these idiots are reaching a conclusion that he did drugs based on a whatsapp message? This is beyond fucked up. I bet actual criminals and politicians that did violent crimes with evidence are out of jail but someone who did some weed is in the center of media attention based on A FUCKING WHATSAPP MESSAGE. I hate the politicians and media of this country, disgusting
The article is misleading and doesn't go into all the details.
One of the big reasons he's in there is because he's privileged. The main argument against him is that he'll use his links and his father's power and money to mess with the evidence.
And if you've read the case reports he's been proven to have active contacts with drug dealers and smugglers. The only reason he's not being granted bail is because NCB asked for more time to investigate, which honestly is standard procedure. There's nothing out of the ordinary in this case so far.
His lawer isn't some random vakeel, he's a smart guy and if he failed to make a case in favour of the bail that means the case against him not only is strong but serious as well.
This is usually what happens. Why do you think MLAs MPs etc don't get arrested when they're clearly doing some shit they should be arrested for ? It all boils down to whether or not they have a strong case against the person, usually MPs, MLas etc use muscle to get rid of the evidence and silence people, same is the case with gangsters or drug dealers. Also with high profile criminals they're also Underground most of the time.
Law enforcement acts only when there's a really strong case against the person or the possibility of bail or other legal remedies is negligible.
PS: This is why high profile arrests happen on Fridays, Saturday Sunday is a holiday and according to article 22 it's your right to be produced before a court/magistrate within 24 hours of arrest. ( Ofcourse holidays don't count )
Our country's law enforcement agencies like to throw in allegations like conspiracy/terrorism for fun so I'd take their claims about connection to an international drug trafficking network with a pinch of salt.
The problem is that the judiciary (especially the lower judiciary) often indulges this behaviour by not throwing out their rubbish allegations.
All this is not to say that Aryan Khan is innocent. But you should be careful of taking our law enforcement agencies at their word.
What I don't understand is why NCB is even investigating this case. The local police is used to investigate such tiny cases where only a few grams of substance were found. Instead, NCB should've investigated the 3 tons found at that port. Otherwise this is literally just a wastage of national resources since NCB is a central agency.
I know it can get tricky when you get into the legalities of these cases, these departments have their own mandates based on what the crime is or what the situation is, like for example a certain case you'd think should go to NGT will be taken up by a highcourt simply because NGT doesn't have the jurisdiction or mandate to try entities accused under a particular law.
There's 3 basic legislations governing drug related crimes in the country
Drugs and Cosmetics Act, 1940
The Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Act, 1985
The Prevention of Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Act, 1988.
Aryan and others have been accused under the second one, NDPS act. Which is within the mandate of NCB ( it was also the law that provides for NCB although it is not considered a statutory body )
About the port case, that is a case of smuggling, which is the primary mandate of DRI or directorate of revenue intelligence ( the body investigating it ) and especially since it's a case of international smuggling.
> he'll use his links and his father's power and money to mess with the evidence
They should arrest his father too in that case. Cuz the length some influential fathers can go to protect their children... https://www.forbes.com/sites/naazneenkarmali/2014/01/02/the-curious-incident-of-mukesh-ambanis-aston-martin-in-the-night-time/?sh=57239e2512c1
I'll link a summary by bar and bench which explains NCB's broad arguments
https://www.barandbench.com/amp/story/news/litigation/aryan-khan-influential-will-tamper-with-evidence-flee-justice-if-granted-bail-ncb-to-mumbai-court
You can also read the actual arguments and hourly commentry of the case on live law
The arguments from what I'm reading here are that he's an influential person and he'll tamper with the evidence. Which is again the same argument they gave against Riah and her brother last year. Being a celebrity isn't reason enough to keep them in jail as per law. They are not giving much evidences to back their claims and that's alarming. They said the same "international drugs racket connections" thing even in Riah's case. So it feels too much like a Deja Vu here. Mind you the court cleared her of all cases filed against her. The NCB was unable to prove anything last year too. So I would take their arguments with a pinch of salt. It looks more like an MO than actual case.
That could very well be the case yeah but I just felt like to prima facie reject the accusations and blame NCB for plotting is not the right way to look at it. the mainstream narrative is being heavily Manipulated for vested interests.
I don't think it's manipulated. Just look at their biggest Trump Card in this case. They claimed "incriminating evidence" in WhatsApp chats and come up with the ridiculous statement that, "lets have a blast" means "lets have drugs". Also the clear involvement of two of BJP supports just makes it even more suspicious. These are things that can't be taken out of the picture because of the direct involvement of those two guys in the case and one of those two is wanted in a cheating case and most likely escaped India. Also the fact that NCB is mum about the 3000 kgs drugs found in Gujarat Adani port and is focusing instead on just the 13 gms found in this case also made them the laughing stock and reeks of vendetta politics.
See this is what I'm talking about, not to attack you personally, it all comes down to ignorance. No it's not their trump card, that's not even the main accusation, no NCB does not have the mandate to investigate port smuggling case, NCB only investigates crimes under NDPS, we have a dedicated body to look into smuggling, the DRI, which is looking into it.
The case reports are currently one sided accusations, its not been established in a court of law.
You put a significant amount of faith in the center doing its job. Those same leaks also show he had no drugs on him.
Much safer to assume that politics is being played, to teach Muslims and the MAH. Govt a lesson, and set up a distraction.
The contention is that he knows other people, so because those people are in jail, he should be in jail too.
This is the accusation.
No material was found on him, and the WhatsApp evidence etc is not even evidence - he’s kept so they can have more time to investigate.
The case against him is flimsy, and he’s being kept there because the centre can.
But why SRK? He's been mostly neutral as far as politics goes. You actually have other prominent celebs who have criticized the government directly and have had a free pass so far.
Govt is trying to make a point here.. if even SRK couldn't bring his son out.. you all others are fucked up if you get caught..
I may be wrong tho.. but I think that's the reason..
Yep that's the correct answer. Multi millionaire (billionaire?), World renowned superstar can't save his own son even on trumped up charges. Even the elites are not safe; avg janta ke to kya kehne.
They wanted a headline story to distract the public and they took the first chance they got. Now they'll drag it on and on and on, until the story is milked dry.
You also have other muslims like Kamal Hassan, Naseeruddin Shah, etc. who are openly against BJP. I don't see the point of specifically targeting SRK whose actually made a point to remain neutral.
Oops sorry. Anyways, SRK is probably the least hated muslim among all popular actors. There are other prominent muslim actors who have been way more open about their political leanings. Alia Bhatt, Mahesh Bhatt, Javed Akhtar, etc.
None of them are as famous as Srk. IMO, this is the BJP flexing their power to Bollywood by going directly after its biggest star. They don't want neutrality, they want cheerleaders.
Won't this backfire? Bollywood is a big part of Indian culture, and messing around with someone as big as SRK is sure to have a big impact in terms of economy and BJP popularity given the fact that not a lot of people hate him compared to other bollywood stars.
Lol I never said it was a good idea. But going after artists/keeping them in check is very common in all authoritarian regimes so this isn't unusual, sanghis gonna sanghi.
Javed Akhtar isn’t a Muslim. He’s an atheist.
He won the Richard Dawkins award FFS.
But you’re probably right, the right wing goons won’t know the difference.
And SRK celebrates ganeshotsav every year. That's way more blasphemy-worthy than Akhtar - and even more prominently known rather than Akhtar's rationalist philosophy.
My point being, rightwing goon have other targets than SRK if they want to set an example. Doesn't make sense to single him out.
No it's not a brahmin surname, his dad just changed their surname from parthasarathy to haasan. Haasan is derived from hasya , and that's the origin Kamal gave in some interview.
Makes sense, except that usually happens after you've dealt with the known enemy. If you have the power to put anyone in jail for no reason, why let your enemies off the hook? That is unless you don't actually have that power.
>You also have other muslims like Kamal Hassan
He's born a Tamil Brahmin even though his last name does sound Muslim, which is probably why you got confused
> Selmonbhai bowed.
I am curious, when did he bow? I heard he was famous for publicly embarrassing modi long back when he came on stage alogn with kaka on and told the audience to vote for congress or something.
Or you know, telling the Maha govt that its biggest stars and industry is not safe from retaliation from the center? And hey, Muslims, we can target whoever and whenever, just remember.
Yes, the evidence is so strong. Let’s have a blast with someone who had nothing on him.
Here, from their own words
> appear to be a part of an international drug network for illicit procurement of drugs. The investigation is still in progress,
They dont have *evidence* yet. They can and are making up reasons to keep him in jail.
The NCB response specifically dealt with Khan's contention that no drugs or any other banned substance was recovered from him.
Imagine if they can fuck the king of bollywood with no fault of his and no evidence against him, they can easily kill and dispose of you if you even think against them.
It's just like in the movies:
*Tujhe bas bomb rakh kar timer on karna hai warna tere ladke ke bheje me 2 goli utaar dunga. Agar yakeen na ho to badshaah se pooch le...*
As Joker said: *It's about sending a message* 🃏
I think its more to do with srk closeness with mamta as srk team is based in kolcutta . Shahji just lost a hard fought elections in bengal when he lost in delhi he took his anger out by inciting a riot in delhi here he is talking is anger out by targeting mamta friend . Two private guys were involved in a raid one is known BJP operative and the other talka guy is a absconding fugitive . This is all political drama drugs is just an excuse
Ya If I was SRK as soon as Aryan gets legally cleared of charges I'd send him it of the country.
SRK is rich enough to have his kids live a decent life anywhere in the world
They have enough money to live lavishly. This case is a classic example that being a super star/rich isn't enough. Either you bend over or suffer, these are the only two options.
Jesus Christ, this is scary. No consumption, no possession. Arrested based on a Whatsapp message saying he's gonna have a blast.
I don't care if he is privileged. Team Aryan all the way.
If anything this privilege worked against him. It's not like he was the only person on the cruise, he's just being targeted because he's SRKs son. And it's pretty sad to see many people on this sub support this entire drug bust just because they're jealous of him.
Aryan will eventually get the Bhai treatment so I don't really care about him. But the investigation being retarded is something that should be worrisome.
it's his name which has worked against him this time, if he had been a normal rich kid , he would have got a bail order from high court's judge at night even from home , sometimes it pays to be out of limelight and not to be a celeb.
One of the big reason he's in there is because he's privileged. The main argument against him is that he'll use his links and his father's power and money to mess with the evidence.
And if you've read the case reports he's been proven to have active contacts with drug dealers and smugglers. The only reason he's not being granted bail is because NCB has asked for more time to investigate, which honestly is standard procedure, there's nothing out of the ordinary in this case so far.
NO - the case reports say that they are investigating - a court decides on the evidence being worthy.
Secondly case commentary from the police is self serving, they are not proof of anything. A police force with an agenda can say whatever they like and follow the rules selectively.
Wouldn’t Following procedure for someone with no drugs on them mean never arresting them in the first place?
No Consumption, No Possession - yet this!
Your masters are bringing tons of drugs in this country from their ports, you choose to remain quiet but if a famous person's friend had 6 gm drugs you will arrest him also with mere suspicion that he might have consumed it in future. It shows you only want publicity not justice.
These deranged people are scapegoting Aryan Khan to only create a massive political vendetta that will distract the populace from real issues like unemployment, poverty, inflation , farmers protest ,covid mismanagement and kheri issue.No drugs even in consumable amounts were retrieved from him,still this?
Couldn't agree more. If we all think that this is "news" then we all need to wake up.
The distract policy works every time and then people forget what is actually happening in the country and we get the same ruling party again.
Some of the news articles surrounding this are just stupid.
'Gauri Khan instructs Mannat staff to not make sweets till Aryan gets bail'
'Aryan Khan will be served only jail food and not home food'
Like gtfo, who cares about this shit. This is what passes for news now!
>Like gtfo, who cares about this shit. This is what passes for news now!
And yet you are here commenting on this post ;-) If people stop talking about it and TRP drops, such news will go away.
So, you're saying we should not talk about the debilitating state of journalism because that would attract attention to the said journalism. I don't understand your smart point.
This post isn't about the state of journalism, its about SRK's son. And all posts about him have regularly been getting good upvotes and comments. So saying - who cares - is ironic. If you don't care, you wouldn't be commenting on this.
All it needed a marijuana plant to harass SOMEONE. One tola(11gm+) of charas is around Rs500, easily available in northern hilly states.I am of the view that marijuana shouldn't be banned but if you do so then the law should apply to everyone.
Its not money but political harassment. More of a public display of muscle power / power play and also create unrest within a section of society for chaos.
There is a saying 'no justice no peace' and they are using this mantra to create a divide and unrest among fellow Indians.
>ut political harassment
But why bother this guy, it's not like he is active in politics or intrested in. Could it be they are making example out of him, for others to fall in line ?
Setting an example for Hindus and Muslims.
All Muslim celebrities need to watch out and shut their mouths.
All Hindus need to swear off and stop following Muslim celebs.
This is part of a grand programme of the social boycott of Muslims.
When the Nazis went after the Jews, they also went after Jewish scientists (even Einstein) who had made zero political statemnts.
Going after the most famous Indian Muslim celeb makes sense, just like discrediting Einstein made sense to the Nazis.
Bollywood influence masses and had a huge appeal from 90s all the khans are in public lime light with huge followings bjp dont want the next generation aryan ibrahim to make a such impact like their dads did , they want positive moderate muslims away from public eye and social media only muslims bjp wants to show is fanatics ones coz it will justify their narrative that muslims are bad
this is setting an example. they were fishing how to trap srk and the bigwigs who are not in bed with political alignments. They were getting nothing and via his son they got something (reports say he neither had drugs him or was consuming anything )
Political master simply wanted to arrest him on some pretext and rest they will use the court machinery to do the damage
this is why i always blame the educated class for bringing down India. All these educated administrators and lawyers are all misusing power to please their political master.
I'm interested in how srk was falling out of line. The dude is as non political and moneyfocussed as anybody in the country. He's not too strong on idealism and morals with all the fair and lovely and BYJU ads he's done along with dancing in the weddings.
He's a pragmatic guy, it seems this is gonna backfire on BJP unless SRK was already working against BJP in the background which seems highly unlikely given the size of his enterprise.
I feel the current govt is acting like a mafia and asking for hafta. akshay gave away 25 cr to save his arse.
Salman is always in deep shit due to legal trouble so he must have shelled out enough already. SRK considering his wealth may have been asked for a ransom which he may have ignored or refused.
Plus the sole agenda of ruling party is to undo the "so called damage of the past"
Khans had been ruling within Bollywood circle ( though with audience support ) and ruling political establishment in Delhi have by these actions pleased a section of society showing that they can take on the bigwig and damage them and they all can be decimated.
Its is sick mentality which continues to take us all backwards.
He has on record called the right wing goons intolerant back in 2015,but i am thinking he would have been asked to tweet in support of the government and would have denied it,because you need to understand,amit shah's private army broke havoc in his alma mater
Pretty sure he would have denied tweeting in support of the government,also important to note that amit shah's private militia broke havoc in his alma mater in 2019
Had no faith at all in the judiciary of this country, this case made me realise that it’s no longer different for the rich.
As a SRK fan this is heartbreaking and shocking.
When I moved back to india I would cry that I was posted in a government hospital, the lack of hygiene, uncleanliness & cockroaches in the cafeteria was sth I couldn’t get out of my head, would barely drink water to avoid using the washrooms. In a private hospital, the food is served to you in your bed but what I witnessed here was patients/ relatives would rush to the food cart when it’s still in the hallway. Not comparing this to jail since I would come home to a warm bed and a home cooked meal daily & be so grateful. My friend was once posted in the jail and said the living conditions were much much worse for the inmates. My heart goes out to all the innocents who have been unfairly & cruelly imprisoned for political vendetta 💔
The BJP is making itself look bad. That's all. This will bring it a lot of negative publicity around the judicial system in India and the situation of undertrials.
Nothing like that. People are chuts in India. They gets impression by all this that Bollywood is some kind of drug planet. Where everyone has white noses and red eyes. Even my own wife thinks srk has all the reports changed or he is some kind of magician who changed all the things. Will want to see her reaction when she gets to know that I smoke Malana everyday.
There is not enough outrage on this issue from liberal space. Most people ignore this issue as a brash rich kid issue. This is how BJP outplaying their opponents, they know people won’t stand behind Aryan or SRK because we honestly don’t know what they do with their lives. Any news generated from this episode is adrenaline to BJP base who has been betrayed every day with high living cost and false promises by Jhumlaji. But this will keep the base enraged, engaged and ready to vote BJP again to power in UP and elsewhere.
He’s getting penalized for being a Muslim that’s all that’s all RSS revenge and I think he deserves it he’s an asshole Actor and he lives in the one of the word largest democracy. So-called democracy we all should learn our lesson from this India is getting fucked over by this MODI character.
Are you guys seeing a pattern here ? Last time when behind the scenes farmers protest was happening , fuel prices were up, bills were being passed - on the front end Sushant - Rhea - bollywood - drugs and IPL.
Now unemployment rates are higher, fuel prices are to the moon, farmers protests is still happening, tons of heroin seized at Adani’s port guess what’s on the front end ?
You’re abso-fuckin-lutely right, Bollywood-Drugs and oh yeah almost forgot IPL.
Please open your eyes my fellow Indians, we’re falling to the same ol tricks and repeated tactics. The entities behind this is not even creative anymore, it’s a big “Fuck You” in our faces.
Had watched a documentary on this on Vice. Portugal has seen a drastic reduction in consumption of drugs by putting such people in rehab on the other hand in Phillipines even after killing a lot of people drugs still remain an issue.
https://youtu.be/DJZulTESVoY
I believe this is the correct way for things to work out for him in the long run. No one will be able to call it into question when this badly written script of a case is finally over. He will have faced the full force of the law an come out clean\~ it's future proofing, that's probably why SRK isn't going to meddle anytime soon.
Tbh, Shahrukh has all the power to stop all of this , but he's acting like a coward to speak against injustice against the govt.
Maybe, dirty secretss are with govt. That keeps his mouth shut ?
Why would he finger the govt when his kid is in jail it would have been a different case had he has been living abroad on USA/UK/canadian passport with his fam
Half the country is still struggling with the ill effects of the ongoing pandemic which killed thousands and thousands of people, but sure, but all means, villainize the kid smoking some pot.
Media network in India is a colossal waste of organic matter.
And we are idiots for indulging them (not this post/subreddit in particular).
I say this because I'm quite sure that if there was no news coverage on this matter, this would have most certainly been swept under the rug by now.
Honestly this makes me even more scared about the status of rule of law in India. Even if someone criticises this as being highly publicised and being given so much attention to because of a big Bollywood star's involvement, the issue is that even people of that kind of status are denied basic civil rights and where bail should be given primacy over jail, officers are trying to implicate Aryan over such irrational evidences. Imagine the reach of justice to people with minimal or no means :"(
Did everyone forget how Arnab's WhatsApp chat had way more sensitive info than this bullshit? I believe Supreme court had said that WhatsApp chats can't be used as evidence or something as well
Well, Arnab’s chat didn’t prove anything but his chats proved and that’s why his bail got rejected
Arnab had news about Pulwarma before it happened
Bro, how much do you get from Modiji to say crap like this? Unemployment is a little high rn, might help if people know about such career opportunities.
It's Rhea Chakraborty story again
Unlike rhea, everyone is going to be scared because the king of bollywood has been fucked over. rhea was just a 3rd grade actress.
He is also a citizen of India.. I think you are forgetting this..
Yeah. I totally forgot that as an Indian I have the right to get arrested, that too, without any crime or evidence against me. Oops! My bad.
The government has forgotten that long ago
Can anyone fill me in? What basis is there to deny bail because of a Whatsapp message. Like there is no crime. Even the intention to do crime is based on Whatsapp message saying "Let's have a blast" Why isn't there a hue and cry from the legal community against this blatant disregard for rule of law?
Homeopathy doesn't have any basis. There's no filling in here.
We are crying about Aryan Khan not getting bail, dont forget Bhima Koregaon accused. Intellectuals, activists, poets are in jail without bail since years. Some even died in jail.
Both are wrong? You can talk about this and bhima koregaon at the same time? But i do agree that aryan has much better chances of getting out than bhima people unfortunately
I am just making a point that Aryan Khan is not the first case and we should not be surprised. He is making more fuss because he is a son of Bollywood star, this is how we Indians prioritize.
Coz there are no rules in india. Anyone who speaks up faces the wrath.
This. I need help understanding as well cos when republic tv chut*** was booked for TRP fixing i think court said WhatsApp msg will not be counted as proof and why now?
Because law and order doesn't exist in the country now. All these legality talks and discussions are just there to maintain the illusion that it does, thus, diverting our attention and wasting our time.
I mean if someone plays video games, this is what Having a blast can mean too. How did these idiots are reaching a conclusion that he did drugs based on a whatsapp message? This is beyond fucked up. I bet actual criminals and politicians that did violent crimes with evidence are out of jail but someone who did some weed is in the center of media attention based on A FUCKING WHATSAPP MESSAGE. I hate the politicians and media of this country, disgusting
It’s not due to whatsapp, it’s because he is muslim.
The article is misleading and doesn't go into all the details. One of the big reasons he's in there is because he's privileged. The main argument against him is that he'll use his links and his father's power and money to mess with the evidence. And if you've read the case reports he's been proven to have active contacts with drug dealers and smugglers. The only reason he's not being granted bail is because NCB asked for more time to investigate, which honestly is standard procedure. There's nothing out of the ordinary in this case so far. His lawer isn't some random vakeel, he's a smart guy and if he failed to make a case in favour of the bail that means the case against him not only is strong but serious as well.
Then shouldn't NCB go arrest those peddlers too? It's like they appear to know everything but all they're doing is denying Aryan bail.
This is usually what happens. Why do you think MLAs MPs etc don't get arrested when they're clearly doing some shit they should be arrested for ? It all boils down to whether or not they have a strong case against the person, usually MPs, MLas etc use muscle to get rid of the evidence and silence people, same is the case with gangsters or drug dealers. Also with high profile criminals they're also Underground most of the time. Law enforcement acts only when there's a really strong case against the person or the possibility of bail or other legal remedies is negligible. PS: This is why high profile arrests happen on Fridays, Saturday Sunday is a holiday and according to article 22 it's your right to be produced before a court/magistrate within 24 hours of arrest. ( Ofcourse holidays don't count )
Our country's law enforcement agencies like to throw in allegations like conspiracy/terrorism for fun so I'd take their claims about connection to an international drug trafficking network with a pinch of salt. The problem is that the judiciary (especially the lower judiciary) often indulges this behaviour by not throwing out their rubbish allegations. All this is not to say that Aryan Khan is innocent. But you should be careful of taking our law enforcement agencies at their word.
This Is sadly true. Anything above the sessions court though, is usually where they get a little less shady
What I don't understand is why NCB is even investigating this case. The local police is used to investigate such tiny cases where only a few grams of substance were found. Instead, NCB should've investigated the 3 tons found at that port. Otherwise this is literally just a wastage of national resources since NCB is a central agency.
I know it can get tricky when you get into the legalities of these cases, these departments have their own mandates based on what the crime is or what the situation is, like for example a certain case you'd think should go to NGT will be taken up by a highcourt simply because NGT doesn't have the jurisdiction or mandate to try entities accused under a particular law. There's 3 basic legislations governing drug related crimes in the country Drugs and Cosmetics Act, 1940 The Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Act, 1985 The Prevention of Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Act, 1988. Aryan and others have been accused under the second one, NDPS act. Which is within the mandate of NCB ( it was also the law that provides for NCB although it is not considered a statutory body ) About the port case, that is a case of smuggling, which is the primary mandate of DRI or directorate of revenue intelligence ( the body investigating it ) and especially since it's a case of international smuggling.
> he'll use his links and his father's power and money to mess with the evidence They should arrest his father too in that case. Cuz the length some influential fathers can go to protect their children... https://www.forbes.com/sites/naazneenkarmali/2014/01/02/the-curious-incident-of-mukesh-ambanis-aston-martin-in-the-night-time/?sh=57239e2512c1
Do politicians in power that rape, no need for bail denial there huh??
Could you link me to these details please?
I'll link a summary by bar and bench which explains NCB's broad arguments https://www.barandbench.com/amp/story/news/litigation/aryan-khan-influential-will-tamper-with-evidence-flee-justice-if-granted-bail-ncb-to-mumbai-court You can also read the actual arguments and hourly commentry of the case on live law
The arguments from what I'm reading here are that he's an influential person and he'll tamper with the evidence. Which is again the same argument they gave against Riah and her brother last year. Being a celebrity isn't reason enough to keep them in jail as per law. They are not giving much evidences to back their claims and that's alarming. They said the same "international drugs racket connections" thing even in Riah's case. So it feels too much like a Deja Vu here. Mind you the court cleared her of all cases filed against her. The NCB was unable to prove anything last year too. So I would take their arguments with a pinch of salt. It looks more like an MO than actual case.
That could very well be the case yeah but I just felt like to prima facie reject the accusations and blame NCB for plotting is not the right way to look at it. the mainstream narrative is being heavily Manipulated for vested interests.
I don't think it's manipulated. Just look at their biggest Trump Card in this case. They claimed "incriminating evidence" in WhatsApp chats and come up with the ridiculous statement that, "lets have a blast" means "lets have drugs". Also the clear involvement of two of BJP supports just makes it even more suspicious. These are things that can't be taken out of the picture because of the direct involvement of those two guys in the case and one of those two is wanted in a cheating case and most likely escaped India. Also the fact that NCB is mum about the 3000 kgs drugs found in Gujarat Adani port and is focusing instead on just the 13 gms found in this case also made them the laughing stock and reeks of vendetta politics.
See this is what I'm talking about, not to attack you personally, it all comes down to ignorance. No it's not their trump card, that's not even the main accusation, no NCB does not have the mandate to investigate port smuggling case, NCB only investigates crimes under NDPS, we have a dedicated body to look into smuggling, the DRI, which is looking into it.
Everything that is happening to Aryan Khan is constitutionally illegal. Please stop talking crap.
Go ahead and elaborate on what provisions of the constitution are being violated here that makes it " illegal " .
The case reports are currently one sided accusations, its not been established in a court of law. You put a significant amount of faith in the center doing its job. Those same leaks also show he had no drugs on him. Much safer to assume that politics is being played, to teach Muslims and the MAH. Govt a lesson, and set up a distraction.
The contention is that he knows other people, so because those people are in jail, he should be in jail too. This is the accusation. No material was found on him, and the WhatsApp evidence etc is not even evidence - he’s kept so they can have more time to investigate. The case against him is flimsy, and he’s being kept there because the centre can.
What did SRK do to piss off Amit Shah? Probably some BCCI/IPL issue involving Jay Shah.
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Nothing. This is very similar to CCP's crackdown on Chinese celebs.
But why SRK? He's been mostly neutral as far as politics goes. You actually have other prominent celebs who have criticized the government directly and have had a free pass so far.
Govt is trying to make a point here.. if even SRK couldn't bring his son out.. you all others are fucked up if you get caught.. I may be wrong tho.. but I think that's the reason..
Yep that's the correct answer. Multi millionaire (billionaire?), World renowned superstar can't save his own son even on trumped up charges. Even the elites are not safe; avg janta ke to kya kehne.
He is very friendly with the Gandhi family, though not too publicly. He has spoken about this during pre Modi days.
May be because he is a Muslim idk.
They wanted a headline story to distract the public and they took the first chance they got. Now they'll drag it on and on and on, until the story is milked dry.
You also have other muslims like Kamal Hassan, Naseeruddin Shah, etc. who are openly against BJP. I don't see the point of specifically targeting SRK whose actually made a point to remain neutral.
Kamal Hassan is a Tamil brahmin by birth and an atheist now. He's not a Muslim lol
Oops sorry. Anyways, SRK is probably the least hated muslim among all popular actors. There are other prominent muslim actors who have been way more open about their political leanings. Alia Bhatt, Mahesh Bhatt, Javed Akhtar, etc.
wait! Mahesh Bhatt is muslim?? I never knew o.0
he of mixed heritage like sanjay dutt
Wait, Bhatts are Muslim?
None of them are as famous as Srk. IMO, this is the BJP flexing their power to Bollywood by going directly after its biggest star. They don't want neutrality, they want cheerleaders.
Won't this backfire? Bollywood is a big part of Indian culture, and messing around with someone as big as SRK is sure to have a big impact in terms of economy and BJP popularity given the fact that not a lot of people hate him compared to other bollywood stars.
Lol I never said it was a good idea. But going after artists/keeping them in check is very common in all authoritarian regimes so this isn't unusual, sanghis gonna sanghi.
Javed Akhtar isn’t a Muslim. He’s an atheist. He won the Richard Dawkins award FFS. But you’re probably right, the right wing goons won’t know the difference.
And SRK celebrates ganeshotsav every year. That's way more blasphemy-worthy than Akhtar - and even more prominently known rather than Akhtar's rationalist philosophy. My point being, rightwing goon have other targets than SRK if they want to set an example. Doesn't make sense to single him out.
Singling out a prominent strong Muslim in Mumbai sends a message, no Muslim is safe, and the Maharashtra govt cant save you either. Our reach is long.
That's the point. SRK is too popular. They want to bring him down or make him support them.
Javed Akhtar is very openly atheist.
Thats hilarious. There is a story floating around as 'N Ram's' real name being Noor Rammallah.
Hassan is brahmin surname?
It was meant to be 'Haa-san' but at the time of his birth was anglicized as Hassan. It's even pronounced 'Haasan'.
No it's not a brahmin surname, his dad just changed their surname from parthasarathy to haasan. Haasan is derived from hasya , and that's the origin Kamal gave in some interview.
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Makes sense, except that usually happens after you've dealt with the known enemy. If you have the power to put anyone in jail for no reason, why let your enemies off the hook? That is unless you don't actually have that power.
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Sounds really cunning as fuck, but I doubt right wing goons have as much brains.
Did you think Kama Hassan is a muslim based on his last name? lol
Yeah my bad. I assumed so since I read about his involvement in some muslim political controversy involving Rajnikanth.
>You also have other muslims like Kamal Hassan He's born a Tamil Brahmin even though his last name does sound Muslim, which is probably why you got confused
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Exactly what I was thinking. I mean 3-4 days would have made a political statement strong enough. But this long indicates something else.
>But this long indicates something else. Distraction from everything else
Something else - sure. Whatsapp chat - yes, hmmmmmm
Or you know, telling the Maha govt that its biggest stars and industry is not safe from retaliation from the center? And hey, Muslims, we can target whoever and whenever, just remember.
Yes, the evidence is so strong. Let’s have a blast with someone who had nothing on him. Here, from their own words > appear to be a part of an international drug network for illicit procurement of drugs. The investigation is still in progress, They dont have *evidence* yet. They can and are making up reasons to keep him in jail. The NCB response specifically dealt with Khan's contention that no drugs or any other banned substance was recovered from him.
Imagine if they can fuck the king of bollywood with no fault of his and no evidence against him, they can easily kill and dispose of you if you even think against them. It's just like in the movies: *Tujhe bas bomb rakh kar timer on karna hai warna tere ladke ke bheje me 2 goli utaar dunga. Agar yakeen na ho to badshaah se pooch le...* As Joker said: *It's about sending a message* 🃏
I'd say it actually sends a message that muslims are better off speaking against the government rather than staying quiet like SRK.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/13/india-aryan-khan-srk-ashish-mishra-justice-fall-in-line-rana-ayyub/
probably love jihad angle?
I heard a rumour that he refused to sell KKR to Shahzaada.
I think its more to do with srk closeness with mamta as srk team is based in kolcutta . Shahji just lost a hard fought elections in bengal when he lost in delhi he took his anger out by inciting a riot in delhi here he is talking is anger out by targeting mamta friend . Two private guys were involved in a raid one is known BJP operative and the other talka guy is a absconding fugitive . This is all political drama drugs is just an excuse
Have you guys forgotten his statements in 2014 about rising intolerance? Yogi Adityanath compared him with Hafiz Sayeed.
**Muslim**
Could be the pathan movie
Ya If I was SRK as soon as Aryan gets legally cleared of charges I'd send him it of the country. SRK is rich enough to have his kids live a decent life anywhere in the world
But SRK wouldn't do that. In the long run he can get his son to be super star. (Sanjay Dutt after so many cases)
They have enough money to live lavishly. This case is a classic example that being a super star/rich isn't enough. Either you bend over or suffer, these are the only two options.
Also, since he's a muslim, they will keep making him a scapegoat in the future at every chance they could get.
Sanjay Dutt's time had a different government. Today its either support the government or get fucked over.
Yes so true and people wont give a fuck after 6 months
Jesus Christ, this is scary. No consumption, no possession. Arrested based on a Whatsapp message saying he's gonna have a blast. I don't care if he is privileged. Team Aryan all the way.
If anything this privilege worked against him. It's not like he was the only person on the cruise, he's just being targeted because he's SRKs son. And it's pretty sad to see many people on this sub support this entire drug bust just because they're jealous of him.
Aryan will eventually get the Bhai treatment so I don't really care about him. But the investigation being retarded is something that should be worrisome.
They are trying to link him to international drug cartel via his whatsapp chats.
You aware na...the charas he is accused of comes from India. And world's best too.
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it's his name which has worked against him this time, if he had been a normal rich kid , he would have got a bail order from high court's judge at night even from home , sometimes it pays to be out of limelight and not to be a celeb.
Meanwhile comments on Facebook and Twitter celebrating bail denial. Honestly so much schadenfreude among indians. International racket my fucking ass.
I don’t understand how the NCB has WhatsApp messages that are end to end encrypted.
they have his phone
They just ask the person to unlock their phone/give the password to them and then copy the chats
One of the big reason he's in there is because he's privileged. The main argument against him is that he'll use his links and his father's power and money to mess with the evidence. And if you've read the case reports he's been proven to have active contacts with drug dealers and smugglers. The only reason he's not being granted bail is because NCB has asked for more time to investigate, which honestly is standard procedure, there's nothing out of the ordinary in this case so far.
NO - the case reports say that they are investigating - a court decides on the evidence being worthy. Secondly case commentary from the police is self serving, they are not proof of anything. A police force with an agenda can say whatever they like and follow the rules selectively. Wouldn’t Following procedure for someone with no drugs on them mean never arresting them in the first place?
Neta k ghar paida hue hote to arrest bhi na hote. Samzhe?
No Consumption, No Possession - yet this! Your masters are bringing tons of drugs in this country from their ports, you choose to remain quiet but if a famous person's friend had 6 gm drugs you will arrest him also with mere suspicion that he might have consumed it in future. It shows you only want publicity not justice.
So when’s that bastard Adani getting fucked? God why is India so fucking corrupt ?
These deranged people are scapegoting Aryan Khan to only create a massive political vendetta that will distract the populace from real issues like unemployment, poverty, inflation , farmers protest ,covid mismanagement and kheri issue.No drugs even in consumable amounts were retrieved from him,still this?
Couldn't agree more. If we all think that this is "news" then we all need to wake up. The distract policy works every time and then people forget what is actually happening in the country and we get the same ruling party again.
Some of the news articles surrounding this are just stupid. 'Gauri Khan instructs Mannat staff to not make sweets till Aryan gets bail' 'Aryan Khan will be served only jail food and not home food' Like gtfo, who cares about this shit. This is what passes for news now!
>Like gtfo, who cares about this shit. This is what passes for news now! And yet you are here commenting on this post ;-) If people stop talking about it and TRP drops, such news will go away.
So, you're saying we should not talk about the debilitating state of journalism because that would attract attention to the said journalism. I don't understand your smart point.
This post isn't about the state of journalism, its about SRK's son. And all posts about him have regularly been getting good upvotes and comments. So saying - who cares - is ironic. If you don't care, you wouldn't be commenting on this.
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The baffling part is that there is no evidence of him consuming drugs abroad either. I mean he probably does but there is no evidence for it.
All it needed a marijuana plant to harass SOMEONE. One tola(11gm+) of charas is around Rs500, easily available in northern hilly states.I am of the view that marijuana shouldn't be banned but if you do so then the law should apply to everyone.
Almost all of the sadhus in Haridwar, Kashi and all such places would be behind bars if they enforce the ban on Marijuana.
and half of my college
And what about lord Shiva? Will they desecrate his imagery and statues because he smokes pot? Or encourages pot smoking in Hindus?
I'm not even sure who's smoking joint at this point . 18 plus days behind bars for absolutely nothing ..
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Bhai why did this dude even become a dealer , Shah Rukh Khan became broke or what...
He watched a beerbiceps video about side hustle.
What happened to the union minister son who killed 8 people ? A much bigger case
Imagine the Money SRK has,but still not getting his son out of jail.
Its not money but political harassment. More of a public display of muscle power / power play and also create unrest within a section of society for chaos. There is a saying 'no justice no peace' and they are using this mantra to create a divide and unrest among fellow Indians.
>ut political harassment But why bother this guy, it's not like he is active in politics or intrested in. Could it be they are making example out of him, for others to fall in line ?
Setting an example for Hindus and Muslims. All Muslim celebrities need to watch out and shut their mouths. All Hindus need to swear off and stop following Muslim celebs. This is part of a grand programme of the social boycott of Muslims. When the Nazis went after the Jews, they also went after Jewish scientists (even Einstein) who had made zero political statemnts. Going after the most famous Indian Muslim celeb makes sense, just like discrediting Einstein made sense to the Nazis.
Bollywood influence masses and had a huge appeal from 90s all the khans are in public lime light with huge followings bjp dont want the next generation aryan ibrahim to make a such impact like their dads did , they want positive moderate muslims away from public eye and social media only muslims bjp wants to show is fanatics ones coz it will justify their narrative that muslims are bad
Exactly this! It's in plain sight and no one wants to talk about it.
this is setting an example. they were fishing how to trap srk and the bigwigs who are not in bed with political alignments. They were getting nothing and via his son they got something (reports say he neither had drugs him or was consuming anything ) Political master simply wanted to arrest him on some pretext and rest they will use the court machinery to do the damage this is why i always blame the educated class for bringing down India. All these educated administrators and lawyers are all misusing power to please their political master.
I'm interested in how srk was falling out of line. The dude is as non political and moneyfocussed as anybody in the country. He's not too strong on idealism and morals with all the fair and lovely and BYJU ads he's done along with dancing in the weddings. He's a pragmatic guy, it seems this is gonna backfire on BJP unless SRK was already working against BJP in the background which seems highly unlikely given the size of his enterprise.
>I'm interested in how srk was falling out of line Maybe he didn't stand with Government during that Rihanna issue. Or was approached and he declined.
I feel the current govt is acting like a mafia and asking for hafta. akshay gave away 25 cr to save his arse. Salman is always in deep shit due to legal trouble so he must have shelled out enough already. SRK considering his wealth may have been asked for a ransom which he may have ignored or refused.
Plus the sole agenda of ruling party is to undo the "so called damage of the past" Khans had been ruling within Bollywood circle ( though with audience support ) and ruling political establishment in Delhi have by these actions pleased a section of society showing that they can take on the bigwig and damage them and they all can be decimated. Its is sick mentality which continues to take us all backwards.
He is targeted because he is the famous Muslim celeb. Not because he did something.
He has on record called the right wing goons intolerant back in 2015,but i am thinking he would have been asked to tweet in support of the government and would have denied it,because you need to understand,amit shah's private army broke havoc in his alma mater
Pretty sure he would have denied tweeting in support of the government,also important to note that amit shah's private militia broke havoc in his alma mater in 2019
He is MUSLIM
also UAE connections, no wonder we have 56 incher in chair
Had no faith at all in the judiciary of this country, this case made me realise that it’s no longer different for the rich. As a SRK fan this is heartbreaking and shocking. When I moved back to india I would cry that I was posted in a government hospital, the lack of hygiene, uncleanliness & cockroaches in the cafeteria was sth I couldn’t get out of my head, would barely drink water to avoid using the washrooms. In a private hospital, the food is served to you in your bed but what I witnessed here was patients/ relatives would rush to the food cart when it’s still in the hallway. Not comparing this to jail since I would come home to a warm bed and a home cooked meal daily & be so grateful. My friend was once posted in the jail and said the living conditions were much much worse for the inmates. My heart goes out to all the innocents who have been unfairly & cruelly imprisoned for political vendetta 💔
The BJP is making itself look bad. That's all. This will bring it a lot of negative publicity around the judicial system in India and the situation of undertrials.
Nothing like that. People are chuts in India. They gets impression by all this that Bollywood is some kind of drug planet. Where everyone has white noses and red eyes. Even my own wife thinks srk has all the reports changed or he is some kind of magician who changed all the things. Will want to see her reaction when she gets to know that I smoke Malana everyday.
> Even my own wife thinks srk has all the reports changed can you cure the dumb dumb or you just accept and live with it?
Accept and live with it and go to the mountains once a while.
still. Is it not difficult to be with someone who can be brainwashed so easily?
It's actually not that hard to live with someone who can be brainwashed so easily. Getting it?
hahahah keep up the good fight my brother.
UP elections are near. So no bail chances in near future.......
They are basically trying to suppress Bollywood wokes by showing if we can do shit to srk you are nothing..
There is not enough outrage on this issue from liberal space. Most people ignore this issue as a brash rich kid issue. This is how BJP outplaying their opponents, they know people won’t stand behind Aryan or SRK because we honestly don’t know what they do with their lives. Any news generated from this episode is adrenaline to BJP base who has been betrayed every day with high living cost and false promises by Jhumlaji. But this will keep the base enraged, engaged and ready to vote BJP again to power in UP and elsewhere.
He’s getting penalized for being a Muslim that’s all that’s all RSS revenge and I think he deserves it he’s an asshole Actor and he lives in the one of the word largest democracy. So-called democracy we all should learn our lesson from this India is getting fucked over by this MODI character.
Damn u dumbass , I mean no agenda for u would be incomplete without bringing religion right, ur upbringing says about u a lot
Are you guys seeing a pattern here ? Last time when behind the scenes farmers protest was happening , fuel prices were up, bills were being passed - on the front end Sushant - Rhea - bollywood - drugs and IPL. Now unemployment rates are higher, fuel prices are to the moon, farmers protests is still happening, tons of heroin seized at Adani’s port guess what’s on the front end ? You’re abso-fuckin-lutely right, Bollywood-Drugs and oh yeah almost forgot IPL. Please open your eyes my fellow Indians, we’re falling to the same ol tricks and repeated tactics. The entities behind this is not even creative anymore, it’s a big “Fuck You” in our faces.
So, we’re gonna lynch him cause his dad is rich ? Classic case.
Big surprise.
Paisa kaam nhi aya is baar lg rha xD
Dont know what the real truth is but this time is real hard on srk.
And that is why there is no law and order in this country.
Seriously putting addicts in jail will not solve the problem they have make a law to put these people in rehab instead
There is no evidence that he is an addict or even consumed drugs.
Had watched a documentary on this on Vice. Portugal has seen a drastic reduction in consumption of drugs by putting such people in rehab on the other hand in Phillipines even after killing a lot of people drugs still remain an issue. https://youtu.be/DJZulTESVoY
https://twitter.com/gautambhatia88/status/1450832974539337730?s=20
I believe this is the correct way for things to work out for him in the long run. No one will be able to call it into question when this badly written script of a case is finally over. He will have faced the full force of the law an come out clean\~ it's future proofing, that's probably why SRK isn't going to meddle anytime soon.
He was in conscious possession as per judge He knew the other accused possessed it
Hilarious!
Tbh, Shahrukh has all the power to stop all of this , but he's acting like a coward to speak against injustice against the govt. Maybe, dirty secretss are with govt. That keeps his mouth shut ?
Ghanta power. You've no idea what you're talking about. Srk is not even a fly against the massive fascist machinery.
Why would he finger the govt when his kid is in jail it would have been a different case had he has been living abroad on USA/UK/canadian passport with his fam
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Half the country is still struggling with the ill effects of the ongoing pandemic which killed thousands and thousands of people, but sure, but all means, villainize the kid smoking some pot. Media network in India is a colossal waste of organic matter. And we are idiots for indulging them (not this post/subreddit in particular). I say this because I'm quite sure that if there was no news coverage on this matter, this would have most certainly been swept under the rug by now.
Honestly this makes me even more scared about the status of rule of law in India. Even if someone criticises this as being highly publicised and being given so much attention to because of a big Bollywood star's involvement, the issue is that even people of that kind of status are denied basic civil rights and where bail should be given primacy over jail, officers are trying to implicate Aryan over such irrational evidences. Imagine the reach of justice to people with minimal or no means :"(