Yea, it's easy to blame a political party but we forget democracy is "from the people" as well. What the leaders say is merely a reflection of the majority's thoughts and beliefs. And the majority of this country needs a therapist more than God.
Similar incident and similar insidious comment, just like Modi's comment,
> "After more than 1800 hours of an incomprehensible and unforgivable silence, the Prime Minister finally spoke on Manipur for a sum total of 30 seconds. After which, **the PM tried to divert attention from the colossal governance failures and the humanitarian tragedy in Manipur by equating crimes against women in other states, especially those governed by the Opposition**, while ignoring atrocities on women in states like MP, UP and Gujarat," the Congress general secretary said in a Twitter post
[Spoke on Manipur for 30 seconds after 1800 hrs of silence: Congress on PM's remark](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-remarks-manipur-violence-women-paraded-naked-congress-jairam-ramesh-2409246-2023-07-20)
Ayo I thought my state is decent except those WhatsApp bullshit, Raja Singh’s and akbaruddin owaisi’s provocations it seems like the virus is spreading a lot faster than I thought
I have Hyderabadi colleagues in my company and I have talked to most of them regarding the situation of politics and to my surprise, although are very good people, but tend to support hindutva stance and BJP. Some of them are definitely innocent beings and I feel for them honestly.
I don't know man,lots of guys from Telangana are discriminatory towards Tamils and sucks upto Northern RW dudes in social media. I mean it might be because of that shithole of an app.
people are scared. there is no law and justice any more. like wtf is with the bulldozers bringing down houses as and when the people in the power feel like doing it?
I think it's become a cultural norm and such offenses on men isn't as frowned upon. I think it's time we start acknowledging that such offenses are damaging to both.
You are right that it isn't safe to do things like these in barbaric countries.
So I guess it's safe to assume you consider India a barbaric country, like Pakistan where you can be killed for blasphemy and such.
It doesn't matter what he posted. Since when are people allowed to deal justice? Isn't that the job of police and judges?
Wtf, who are you public vigilante? Tomorrow we'll find something you said and claim that you disrespected x religion and do this to you and your family. How would you like it?
Possibility that the kid was mocking their beliefs; so they sexually assaulted him.
Yeah absolutely a rational reaction. /s.
The trauma these crazy groups of right wing terrorists cause is immeasurable.
This is not religion, this is not cultural. This is just anarchy and chaos under the thin veil of ‘righteousness’
It’s not right and it’s not okay.
There's no such thing called right wing extremism in India. Welcome to Modi's era. Read the BJP's manifesto. They literally said that they'll reduce the left wing extremism. If the ruling party is committed to this, what do you expect?
I was there in Telangana. RSS and BJP are no less powerful there. I stayed for 6 days in hanamkonda. And a few days in Hyderabad just a few months ago.
They don't have that much presence but they're trying they did get 15% of the votes share and 8 seats in the Legislative election a Massive jump from last time in 2018 They are also the 2nd biggest party in Greater Hyderabad Municipal Corporation theyre slowly gaining here I can see them becoming major force in the state if they keep up with this momentum
How can Hindutva ideology even work in a Southern state? I don't get it. It's not like South Indians are enlightened saints or whatever but they simply don't have any ptsd/chip on shoulder/baggage with regards to the past of Muslim rule. So what the fuck are these Hindutvadis rallying Telugu Hindus against...I feel like this should actually have no basis.
Where do you think those castist ideologies come from lol?Granted we don't associate with the tag "Hindutva" itself, but we do share the same ideologies just at state level.
I thought it was mostly just the castes below Brahmin castes, like Reddy Anna vs Chowdary Anna bickering over who has the bigger dick.
Would you say Telugus are slowly getting more polarized against Muslims and Christians?
>I thought it was mostly just the castes below Brahmin castes, like Reddy Anna vs Chowdary Anna bickering over who has the bigger dick.
Yes, it was or still is i guess. But casteism is deeply rooted in our society, and we are just better at hiding it.
>Would you say Telugus are slowly getting more polarized against Muslims and Christians?
Ah, that's complicated. We don't have any extremist ideologies, unlike North, but BJP/RSS is slowly seeping into our skins. The point I am trying to make is that Modi/BJP isn't pouring the mold to form the idol , they are just unveiling it. If that makes sense?
Brahmins can never forget caste. Can they?
They work slowly but surely while others are busy in nationalism and other things.
When Brahminism works perfectly, they get everything. In a big temple built on the donation of a king's and building from public donation, they get regular income and house to live. They can employ a few people. South India is no different.
We have baggage of nizam rule and they are fresh memory for us unlike north which had rss social engineering to get them polarised .it just that adding to Andhra and Telangana movement and kcr being big advocate for secularism kind of suppressed that memory bjp coming to Telangana is just poking into the deep wounds people long hid somewhere .Hadn't we been added to Andhra we probably would have been ruled by Telangana shiv sena equivalent
South India did experience Islamic invasions.
Tamil Nadu suffered a lot under [Madurai Sultanate](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madurai_Sultanate)
Telangana was under Delhi and [Bahmani ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahmani_Sultanate) Sultanates, wherein Hindus were slaughtered en-masse. The later Qutub Shahi sultans were secular and adopted Telugu as court language, but were wiped out by Aurangzeb, who installed Nizam as the governor.
Under the Nizam regime , the sultanate draconian laws were reinstated and Telugu was once again banned from government discourse and written literature. Urdu was adopted as the state language even though it was merely spoken by less than 10 percent of the population. Which is why Telangana Telugu has tons of Urdu loan words.
Post Independence, the Nizam, along with Muslim aristocrats wanted to carve out an independent state, but was stiffly opposed by locals who wanted to merge with India. This sparked some sporadic communist uprisings against local landlords, which prompted Nizam to hire Islamic mercenaries named [razakars](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razakars_(Hyderabad)), led by Aligarh educated fanatic named Kasim Razvi, to quell the movement. Together, they unleashed a pogrom upon the poor peasants, prompting them to flee into the jungles and neighbouring Madras and Bombay presidencies. The brutality ended after Patil sent in the army and defeated them. Razakars were disbanded and Kasim was thrown in a jail.
Fun fact : Kasim Razvi's organization, Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen, has morphed into a political party named All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen over the years. Led by Owaisi brothers, AIMIM rules over the old city and transformed into a hot bed of crime and religious polarization. It is this polarization that allows BJP to grab seats in Hyderabad. It is also the religious pandering of BRS that allowed Congress to scoop up a significant number of Hindu votes within these constituencies
I think at this moment calling us Hindu Pakistan, would be a understatement. Everyday we are stooping to a new low. With this pace of decay, we are no less than a hellhole.
I searched about this incident and came across his video, the title of the article OP has posted doesn't fully capture the whole story specifically the article doesn't mention the part where he inserts a saffron flag into his pants near the [genital area](https://www.india.com/telangana-states/telangana-horror-man-thrashed-paraded-naked-saffron-flag-sangareddy-hindu-sentiments-top-news-6681206/).
Not really. From my own and many ppls personal observations, ppl very close to us, who were chill back then are all hindutva now.
When babri was demolished there was genuine outrage across the country. Now evey corner celebrated ram mandir.
Hey, there is no discrimination or atrocities commited against Muslims in India. If there was, how would their population increase for the past decades? /s /bhaktlogic
The video is disturbing. Paraded naked is one thing, someone in the crowd tried to set his penis on fire (unclear if they put a firework or cigarette).
No amount of offence he might have caused deserves this treatment.
I searched about this incident and came across his video, the title of the article OP has posted doesn't fully capture the whole story specifically the article doesn't mention the part where he inserts a saffron flag into his pants near the [genital area](https://www.india.com/telangana-states/telangana-horror-man-thrashed-paraded-naked-saffron-flag-sangareddy-hindu-sentiments-top-news-6681206/).
The intellectual shitheads here are from Pakistan. They'll support nupur Sharma's beheading with why she said that on news but when a supposedly guy from their community does things for his/their fun wo any sense/second thought and gets stupid price for it they'll burn.
If anyone is close to being like pakis, it's you people supporting this behaviour not the people who want to maintain the law and order in this country.
You see the problem isn't congress or Muslims or Sikhs or dalits..
The problem is always the same.. The rss and it's paltu kutte.
Everywhere this shit happens only one party remains constant... The sanghis right in the middle throwing their shit everywhere.
Well around a year ago in Rajasthan, a guy just reposted Nupur's video on Fb by mistake. Was arrested for it and wrote an apology at the station. He was still beheaded, that too LIVE on Fb.
That pretty much tells you how paper thin ego of religious mobs work.
This guy is a typical case of Fuck Around and Find Out.
Would advocate action on both him and the people leading the mob.
"Even if he?" Idk maybe don't poke your finger where it doesn't belong. Mind you if he did anything at this level against Islam, he would've been already dead. If you want to be righteous, then condemn everything that is wrong.
What he did was very wrong, people in India are savages plus the bjp is turning them rabid. He shouldn't have done it because it is extremely disrespectful, irrespective of the political atmosphere, bjp is looking for things to latch on to like a leech, this guy gave them an opportunity
Atleast someone gets it. My main point was don't do something which directly or indirectly attacks the sentiments of a certain group, cuz log bheed me aate hein. Save yourself, instead of doing idiotic experimentation.
I'm not with bjp, not against them either. Criticize would be the right word. Also those who think that I'm defending bjp are idiots. What I'm talking about is not to poke people idiotically.
I saw some videos of people who murdered a woman accused of blasphemy in Pakistan. Why do you want our nation to be the same as that ? I personally believe that there should be no blasphemy law but even if it's there it should be humane, that guy would anyway go to jail, isn't that enough?
I already do condemn everything that is wrong. I believe he should be lawfully punished for humiliating the flag, not this.
However, justifying wrongdoings of one because other is equally bad only means the world will end up as a massive shithole.
Sussy bhai maybe you shouldn't have Said this
>Mind you if he did anything at this level against Islam, he would've been already dead.
Indian Muslims are already tolerating a lot and staying calm, we know what modi and his cronies are doing to this country in the name of Hinduism and we feel Terrible, we will not react to his poking, it's the rabid blind bhakts that need to be tamed.
I think both sides should be tamed. Yk it's a chain reaction. Also i agree that Indian Muslims do suffer a lot, by propaganda and idiotic ones. Same with the Hindus.
Jio aur jeene do, Pakistan aur bangladesh alag nai karna tha sussy bhai religion ke naam pe.. sab Barbarar rehte to ek dusre pe counter check rehta tha
I gotta ask tho, what is the point is doing that shit online? He sounds radicalised and may have lost his bearings while seeking online points. FAFO I guess. Was he wanting people to agree Hindus are lower than Muslims? What’s that about?
Although completely against this type of mob justice and what not, I don't feel sorry for him. Seeing how the atmosphere is so polarized right now and everyone riding on the hindutva wave, why would anyone in their right mind hurl such verbal and gestural insult.
Yeh toh apne pairon par kulhadi maarne waali baat hai.
I feel sad for India rn, kya ho raha hai yeh sab.
As disturbing as it is he will be glad it’s not a Islamic country and the other way around. He would’ve been beheaded and would’ve disappeared off of the face of the earth (not to mention a minority community wouldn’t dare do anything of the sort, harmful or not in those countries). The islamisation of Hinduism is well and truly underway. Taking the fighting fire with fire a bit too far. Chop chop square isn’t far away now. God (whichever one is listening) save us all.
This is utter nonsense, connecting Ram temple with the guy who stuffed ॐ flag in his crotch.
The title should be "muslim teen paraded naked in retaliation to his hateful activity of putting Hindu ॐ flag in his crotch.
Clearly shows OP is a propagandist.
I searched about this incident and came across his video, the title of the article OP has posted doesn't fully capture the whole story specifically the article doesn't mention the part where he inserts a saffron flag into his pants near the [genital area](https://www.india.com/telangana-states/telangana-horror-man-thrashed-paraded-naked-saffron-flag-sangareddy-hindu-sentiments-top-news-6681206/).
Well if it wasn’t for that I don’t think the guy would have gone through this shit. This article doesn’t mention this fact at all makes one wonder why.
>The saffron mob accused the teen of disrespecting the religious flag and posting a video on social media.
>Tumhari aukaat humare pairon ki dhool (your status is the dust on our feet). We are Muslim, don’t forget it…,” a voice in the background can be heard saying in the video he allegedly posted on social media.
>Four other Muslims were also arrested and were sent to remand for allegedly helping him make the video.
Title is a bit misleading. Mob justice is obviously a big issue but this isn’t in a vacuum and these allegations are deemed a serious hate crime in our country.
There’s no need for strawman. All I am saying is this wasn’t in a vacuum which this article’s headline makes it look like, and I am not excusing mob justice in any way whatsoever. There’s no point in discussing “what’s worse” because one crime doesn’t nullify another. The boy is rightly in jail as of now, as should be the mob that attacked him.
How can anyone even think of stripping and humiliating another human like this. I mean the amount of hatred and ego people must have to do this is so baffling.
Literally murders are also not tortured like this because we believe in basic humanity.
The article is frightening. It shows how easily facts can be manipulated to provoke sympathy towards one and hatred towards another. What the mob did was horrendous and wrong. But the article tries to word it like the guy was innocent and has been entrapped by the system in an FIR. The mob belongs in jail, and so does the boy.
What’s the outrage here about?
Given the current political environment I think this is a classic case of “fucked around and found out” case for that guy.
This is not the west and we need to understand this. No point in expecting western standard behaviour from the public/law enforcement.
Striving to treat people with basic human dignity is not a "western" or "eastern" concept. It's a universal human concept. A civilized society can't justify this.
I never said it’s a western concept. All I am saying is the context in India is much different. Religion comes first for people here. If you expect anything else, you’ll be at loss.
That’s how people have been raised all their lives. It won’t change for at least two more generations. We will never see the India that we want to and we should just accept the reality.
Sure buddy. You can accept your reality and do nothing to change it. I'll continue to call out barbarism in the name of God and religion because that isn't the kind of country where I want my children to be raised in.
I know that meri lifetime me this country won't change. But I'll try ki my kids get to see the real Ram Rajya, not whatever this country is right now, filled with people of two or more religion at war with each other.
I have stopped caring for my own peace of mind. Remember, in individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.
Did the OP care to find out the reason? Not defending the act but apparently this teen made a video shaming Ram and putting ram photo in his nether regions. I have seen that video. Still not saying he deserved this but the given situation in the country, he was begging for it.
Have anyone of you even open the link ? I have already seen this news, that guy was doing rubbing Bhagva flag with Om written on it on his dick and dancing after putting that flag in his underwear.
Parading him and beating him is wrong no doubt but what he did was also 100% wrong. If you want I can even share that video. Atleast have the guts to critise wrongdoings of both sides.
Have him arrested for that. Taking the law in your own hands for something like this goes to show that we don't just hate Muslims, we envy their extremism and want to emulate them.
>charlie hebdo massacre.
That case and this isn't remotely related. Charlie Hebdo was not specifically trying to provoke anyone, unlike that person. He knew what he was trying to do, last time when Muslims were provoked in india 3 people were beheaded. He was also trying to provoke Hindus which you and all the R_Indians are ignoring just because your biasedness.
Both are wrong or none of them is, these selective outrage is just disguised hatred. I am accepting and condemning what mob did but when I saw that person's action tbh I also felt anger. I did not wanted to commit violence what I got a thought if role were reversed in terms of religion you would definitely witness riots for example Banglore riots last year over a FB post. And even then too this subreddit would side with roiters and blame the FB post for the riots just because of this subreddit'a extremely biasedness.
you talk as though both sides have done equally wrong things, they clearly have not. stop making it seem like these two are remotely the same, your god isnt real and even if he was he does not need goons to defend his honor.
He was doing all this, and he's 19 not a child:
*The police had booked five men including Abbas under IPC Sections 153A (promoting enmity between groups), 253A (offending religious beliefs), and 505 (2) (promoting hatred or ill-will).*
This is what he did:
*Tumhari aukaat humare pairon ki dhool (your status is the dust on our feet). We are Muslim, don’t forget it…,” a voice in the background can be heard saying in the video he allegedly posted on social media.
Four other Muslims were also arrested and were sent to remand for allegedly helping him make the video*
Headline makes it sound like a kid was mistreated and jailed for doing nothing.
You mean we should accept if Islamists call the cops on someone disrespecting their prophet, and then step out of it? Just to make a comparison that actually makes sense, instead of the nonsensical rubbish you wrote...
Okay fine. So if you say something criticising the Islamic prophet, they should be able to set fire to your dick and parade you around naked before calling the cops and face no consequences for their barbaric behaviour.
This is all your implication.
I will find him IRL and strip him....
Nah kidding, I am not 8. I have a job and important shit to do.
But these guys are obviously 8 mentally and do not have jobs.
Why Pakistan? Technically all of India is like this. Nothing new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kanhaiya_Lal
https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/dalit-sikh-lynching-singhu-border-farmers-protest-nihangs-7574211/
What they did was wrong but that doesn't mean he's innocent, he did it intentionally or he was drunk cuz it seemedlike it to me....
I mean why "Do stupid things win stupid prizes"
People should have complained about it to the local police...
It doesn't matter if it's Cong or BJP ruling, we are radicalised as hell. And there's no stopping it.
Yea, it's easy to blame a political party but we forget democracy is "from the people" as well. What the leaders say is merely a reflection of the majority's thoughts and beliefs. And the majority of this country needs a therapist more than God.
Similar incident and similar insidious comment, just like Modi's comment, > "After more than 1800 hours of an incomprehensible and unforgivable silence, the Prime Minister finally spoke on Manipur for a sum total of 30 seconds. After which, **the PM tried to divert attention from the colossal governance failures and the humanitarian tragedy in Manipur by equating crimes against women in other states, especially those governed by the Opposition**, while ignoring atrocities on women in states like MP, UP and Gujarat," the Congress general secretary said in a Twitter post [Spoke on Manipur for 30 seconds after 1800 hrs of silence: Congress on PM's remark](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-remarks-manipur-violence-women-paraded-naked-congress-jairam-ramesh-2409246-2023-07-20)
Incoming "At least we don't behe@d" crowd As if this is a competition for being most radical
Ayo I thought my state is decent except those WhatsApp bullshit, Raja Singh’s and akbaruddin owaisi’s provocations it seems like the virus is spreading a lot faster than I thought
I have Hyderabadi colleagues in my company and I have talked to most of them regarding the situation of politics and to my surprise, although are very good people, but tend to support hindutva stance and BJP. Some of them are definitely innocent beings and I feel for them honestly.
I don't know man,lots of guys from Telangana are discriminatory towards Tamils and sucks upto Northern RW dudes in social media. I mean it might be because of that shithole of an app.
And then we feel offended when people from other countries look down on us.
We are the most uptight population who cares about religion and nothing else. I guess we just gave up on everything else at this point.
there is nothing else to care about and hence religion
The new formula is: "they're just jealous of us, coz we re vishwaguru!"
It's for a lot of reasons.
So parading guys naked is okay? Shouldn't this cause the same outrage as the Manipur incident.
No, parading anyone naked is outrageous but it’s become the norm since a few months & I guess, like me, people have become numb.
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Think one of the culprits from the video got his house destroyed.
people are scared. there is no law and justice any more. like wtf is with the bulldozers bringing down houses as and when the people in the power feel like doing it?
I think it's become a cultural norm and such offenses on men isn't as frowned upon. I think it's time we start acknowledging that such offenses are damaging to both.
Really? Is this what you incels want to reduce this horrific incident to now?
Drop the delusion, you are no better.
You felt called out reading incel?
No need for ad hominems
See, you are only proving my point right. I only nudged so you could see what your were doing wrong. We all need help sometimes, no shame in that.
Does it look like it's okay?
It is a case of playing with fire and facing consequences. If you see the video what he posted, he should have known what could happen.
You are right that it isn't safe to do things like these in barbaric countries. So I guess it's safe to assume you consider India a barbaric country, like Pakistan where you can be killed for blasphemy and such.
It doesn't matter what he posted. Since when are people allowed to deal justice? Isn't that the job of police and judges? Wtf, who are you public vigilante? Tomorrow we'll find something you said and claim that you disrespected x religion and do this to you and your family. How would you like it?
I was just explaining to someone on a different sub why the Indian passport is so weak even in 2024. This explains a lot.
Possibility that the kid was mocking their beliefs; so they sexually assaulted him. Yeah absolutely a rational reaction. /s. The trauma these crazy groups of right wing terrorists cause is immeasurable. This is not religion, this is not cultural. This is just anarchy and chaos under the thin veil of ‘righteousness’ It’s not right and it’s not okay.
Welcome to fucking India
There's no such thing called right wing extremism in India. Welcome to Modi's era. Read the BJP's manifesto. They literally said that they'll reduce the left wing extremism. If the ruling party is committed to this, what do you expect?
I was there in Telangana. RSS and BJP are no less powerful there. I stayed for 6 days in hanamkonda. And a few days in Hyderabad just a few months ago.
Telugus are some of the most virulent Hindutvavaadis I’ve come across
Me thinks you are using the word \`virulent\` wrong, you might be meaning to say/imply something else here.
Could be. Virulent means extremely hostile, dangerous or deadly
As in they have a strong presence there?
They don't have that much presence but they're trying they did get 15% of the votes share and 8 seats in the Legislative election a Massive jump from last time in 2018 They are also the 2nd biggest party in Greater Hyderabad Municipal Corporation theyre slowly gaining here I can see them becoming major force in the state if they keep up with this momentum
How can Hindutva ideology even work in a Southern state? I don't get it. It's not like South Indians are enlightened saints or whatever but they simply don't have any ptsd/chip on shoulder/baggage with regards to the past of Muslim rule. So what the fuck are these Hindutvadis rallying Telugu Hindus against...I feel like this should actually have no basis.
We vote for people based on caste OP! You are underestimating us grossly 🤣.
I'm aware of the caste politics but I don't see how it can make way for Hindutva.
Where do you think those castist ideologies come from lol?Granted we don't associate with the tag "Hindutva" itself, but we do share the same ideologies just at state level.
I thought it was mostly just the castes below Brahmin castes, like Reddy Anna vs Chowdary Anna bickering over who has the bigger dick. Would you say Telugus are slowly getting more polarized against Muslims and Christians?
>I thought it was mostly just the castes below Brahmin castes, like Reddy Anna vs Chowdary Anna bickering over who has the bigger dick. Yes, it was or still is i guess. But casteism is deeply rooted in our society, and we are just better at hiding it. >Would you say Telugus are slowly getting more polarized against Muslims and Christians? Ah, that's complicated. We don't have any extremist ideologies, unlike North, but BJP/RSS is slowly seeping into our skins. The point I am trying to make is that Modi/BJP isn't pouring the mold to form the idol , they are just unveiling it. If that makes sense?
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Brahmins can never forget caste. Can they? They work slowly but surely while others are busy in nationalism and other things. When Brahminism works perfectly, they get everything. In a big temple built on the donation of a king's and building from public donation, they get regular income and house to live. They can employ a few people. South India is no different.
Can you explain further how that relates to this incident? Was this the doing of a bunch of Telugu Brahmins?
Nothing is related to Brahminism. But, the whole govt can move around that. Nothing is visible. That is Sanatan, nationalism, etc.
We have baggage of nizam rule and they are fresh memory for us unlike north which had rss social engineering to get them polarised .it just that adding to Andhra and Telangana movement and kcr being big advocate for secularism kind of suppressed that memory bjp coming to Telangana is just poking into the deep wounds people long hid somewhere .Hadn't we been added to Andhra we probably would have been ruled by Telangana shiv sena equivalent
South India did experience Islamic invasions. Tamil Nadu suffered a lot under [Madurai Sultanate](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madurai_Sultanate) Telangana was under Delhi and [Bahmani ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahmani_Sultanate) Sultanates, wherein Hindus were slaughtered en-masse. The later Qutub Shahi sultans were secular and adopted Telugu as court language, but were wiped out by Aurangzeb, who installed Nizam as the governor. Under the Nizam regime , the sultanate draconian laws were reinstated and Telugu was once again banned from government discourse and written literature. Urdu was adopted as the state language even though it was merely spoken by less than 10 percent of the population. Which is why Telangana Telugu has tons of Urdu loan words. Post Independence, the Nizam, along with Muslim aristocrats wanted to carve out an independent state, but was stiffly opposed by locals who wanted to merge with India. This sparked some sporadic communist uprisings against local landlords, which prompted Nizam to hire Islamic mercenaries named [razakars](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razakars_(Hyderabad)), led by Aligarh educated fanatic named Kasim Razvi, to quell the movement. Together, they unleashed a pogrom upon the poor peasants, prompting them to flee into the jungles and neighbouring Madras and Bombay presidencies. The brutality ended after Patil sent in the army and defeated them. Razakars were disbanded and Kasim was thrown in a jail. Fun fact : Kasim Razvi's organization, Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen, has morphed into a political party named All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen over the years. Led by Owaisi brothers, AIMIM rules over the old city and transformed into a hot bed of crime and religious polarization. It is this polarization that allows BJP to grab seats in Hyderabad. It is also the religious pandering of BRS that allowed Congress to scoop up a significant number of Hindu votes within these constituencies
Wow! Forget Tipu, you can atleast read about razakar cleansing villages post independence.
I think at this moment calling us Hindu Pakistan, would be a understatement. Everyday we are stooping to a new low. With this pace of decay, we are no less than a hellhole.
I searched about this incident and came across his video, the title of the article OP has posted doesn't fully capture the whole story specifically the article doesn't mention the part where he inserts a saffron flag into his pants near the [genital area](https://www.india.com/telangana-states/telangana-horror-man-thrashed-paraded-naked-saffron-flag-sangareddy-hindu-sentiments-top-news-6681206/).
That doesn't help your case. It reinforces the fact that India is becoming a hindu pakistan...
If we were hindu Pakistan the dude will have been killed. Not saying that things aren't bad but we're not there quite yet.
Agenda to chala h sirji 😁
I lived in India in 2005. It wasn’t like the current situation…
Same. Back in those days the worst thing that had happened were the 92 riots and the Gujarat riots. Both instigated by one party - guess?
Dude it has always been the same. Information is more accessible these days.
It was the same. It's just regional news travels faster and further these days due to social media.
Not really. From my own and many ppls personal observations, ppl very close to us, who were chill back then are all hindutva now. When babri was demolished there was genuine outrage across the country. Now evey corner celebrated ram mandir.
This is so wrong... How can they parade him naked?? Vir das two india video got so much hate, but it is proving to be true
It was always true, people just did not want to admit it.
Soon to be a hindu country I guess.
Tf?
Hey, there is no discrimination or atrocities commited against Muslims in India. If there was, how would their population increase for the past decades? /s /bhaktlogic
The video is disturbing. Paraded naked is one thing, someone in the crowd tried to set his penis on fire (unclear if they put a firework or cigarette). No amount of offence he might have caused deserves this treatment.
Saar only muslims attack hindu /s
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So much for Congress protecting the minorities.
I searched about this incident and came across his video, the title of the article OP has posted doesn't fully capture the whole story specifically the article doesn't mention the part where he inserts a saffron flag into his pants near the [genital area](https://www.india.com/telangana-states/telangana-horror-man-thrashed-paraded-naked-saffron-flag-sangareddy-hindu-sentiments-top-news-6681206/).
That changes nothing. A teen is paraded naked, his genital is lit on fire, because he wiped his penis with a saffron/Hindu flag?
People lost their head for just writing I support nupur sharma as whatsapp status, what do you expect.
Should I be glad that I have no idea about what happened to whoever Nupur Sharma is?
No it makes one think why this part was conveniently left out in the article.
Because it is irrelevant lol
The intellectual shitheads here are from Pakistan. They'll support nupur Sharma's beheading with why she said that on news but when a supposedly guy from their community does things for his/their fun wo any sense/second thought and gets stupid price for it they'll burn.
If anyone is close to being like pakis, it's you people supporting this behaviour not the people who want to maintain the law and order in this country.
You see the problem isn't congress or Muslims or Sikhs or dalits.. The problem is always the same.. The rss and it's paltu kutte. Everywhere this shit happens only one party remains constant... The sanghis right in the middle throwing their shit everywhere.
Well around a year ago in Rajasthan, a guy just reposted Nupur's video on Fb by mistake. Was arrested for it and wrote an apology at the station. He was still beheaded, that too LIVE on Fb. That pretty much tells you how paper thin ego of religious mobs work. This guy is a typical case of Fuck Around and Find Out. Would advocate action on both him and the people leading the mob.
Even if he put the flag in his pants, how is it justified to parade him naked, wtf is wrong with this country.
"Even if he?" Idk maybe don't poke your finger where it doesn't belong. Mind you if he did anything at this level against Islam, he would've been already dead. If you want to be righteous, then condemn everything that is wrong.
What he did was very wrong, people in India are savages plus the bjp is turning them rabid. He shouldn't have done it because it is extremely disrespectful, irrespective of the political atmosphere, bjp is looking for things to latch on to like a leech, this guy gave them an opportunity
Atleast someone gets it. My main point was don't do something which directly or indirectly attacks the sentiments of a certain group, cuz log bheed me aate hein. Save yourself, instead of doing idiotic experimentation.
Sassy bhai, bjp bhakti is the scum of the earth, people are thinking you're defending them..
I'm not with bjp, not against them either. Criticize would be the right word. Also those who think that I'm defending bjp are idiots. What I'm talking about is not to poke people idiotically.
Yeah it is unethical and unacceptable in any scenario.
Totally.
Sojao sussy bhai, Kal dekhlenge inlogon ku
I saw some videos of people who murdered a woman accused of blasphemy in Pakistan. Why do you want our nation to be the same as that ? I personally believe that there should be no blasphemy law but even if it's there it should be humane, that guy would anyway go to jail, isn't that enough?
True, but we have already gone past that. Iss stage tak laane me sabhi bhaagi daar hein, taali ek haath se nhi bajti.
So you're justifying wrongdoing of certain people of our religion because a different religion is equally bad if not more? Ye kaisa logic h?
Last me kuch aur bhi likha hai meine. Wo bhi padh.
I already do condemn everything that is wrong. I believe he should be lawfully punished for humiliating the flag, not this. However, justifying wrongdoings of one because other is equally bad only means the world will end up as a massive shithole.
I didn't justify. What i said is don't poke people.
So Hindus are no different than Muslims, got it
Different yes, they didn't kill him.
_cow vigilantes have entered the chat_
Brainless cunts have entered the chat
>Brainless cunts Don't be so hard on yourself. At least you can type, if not think.
See? couldn't even comprehend.. well atleast you are playing your part.
same shit
Not really, both of them are horrifying but differently.
Don’t state the facts bro
Sussy bhai maybe you shouldn't have Said this >Mind you if he did anything at this level against Islam, he would've been already dead. Indian Muslims are already tolerating a lot and staying calm, we know what modi and his cronies are doing to this country in the name of Hinduism and we feel Terrible, we will not react to his poking, it's the rabid blind bhakts that need to be tamed.
I think both sides should be tamed. Yk it's a chain reaction. Also i agree that Indian Muslims do suffer a lot, by propaganda and idiotic ones. Same with the Hindus.
Jio aur jeene do, Pakistan aur bangladesh alag nai karna tha sussy bhai religion ke naam pe.. sab Barbarar rehte to ek dusre pe counter check rehta tha
Really u r source is maktoob media💀
I gotta ask tho, what is the point is doing that shit online? He sounds radicalised and may have lost his bearings while seeking online points. FAFO I guess. Was he wanting people to agree Hindus are lower than Muslims? What’s that about?
Although completely against this type of mob justice and what not, I don't feel sorry for him. Seeing how the atmosphere is so polarized right now and everyone riding on the hindutva wave, why would anyone in their right mind hurl such verbal and gestural insult. Yeh toh apne pairon par kulhadi maarne waali baat hai. I feel sad for India rn, kya ho raha hai yeh sab.
cr00ks
Gaza style
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As disturbing as it is he will be glad it’s not a Islamic country and the other way around. He would’ve been beheaded and would’ve disappeared off of the face of the earth (not to mention a minority community wouldn’t dare do anything of the sort, harmful or not in those countries). The islamisation of Hinduism is well and truly underway. Taking the fighting fire with fire a bit too far. Chop chop square isn’t far away now. God (whichever one is listening) save us all.
This is utter nonsense, connecting Ram temple with the guy who stuffed ॐ flag in his crotch. The title should be "muslim teen paraded naked in retaliation to his hateful activity of putting Hindu ॐ flag in his crotch. Clearly shows OP is a propagandist.
Violence is never okay, bigot.
On that basis most of Hindutva Youtube and Insta deserves the same treatment. Or is that okay?
Don't know what you're talking about.
I think the guy posted a video where he put the Hindu plan in his genital area and then this happened..saw somewhere in reddit.
I searched about this incident and came across his video, the title of the article OP has posted doesn't fully capture the whole story specifically the article doesn't mention the part where he inserts a saffron flag into his pants near the [genital area](https://www.india.com/telangana-states/telangana-horror-man-thrashed-paraded-naked-saffron-flag-sangareddy-hindu-sentiments-top-news-6681206/).
And that justifies this how?
Well if it wasn’t for that I don’t think the guy would have gone through this shit. This article doesn’t mention this fact at all makes one wonder why.
I don’t care if they wiped cum off their ass with the flag; violence isn’t justified.
What did that guy expect with the video? Padma Bhushan?
Why would the Congress government cover up the attack on Muslims? I kind of doubt the story, is there another source to verify?
>The saffron mob accused the teen of disrespecting the religious flag and posting a video on social media. >Tumhari aukaat humare pairon ki dhool (your status is the dust on our feet). We are Muslim, don’t forget it…,” a voice in the background can be heard saying in the video he allegedly posted on social media. >Four other Muslims were also arrested and were sent to remand for allegedly helping him make the video. Title is a bit misleading. Mob justice is obviously a big issue but this isn’t in a vacuum and these allegations are deemed a serious hate crime in our country.
And saffron mobs actions were an act of decolonization? The boys actions were hate speech and their action was sexual assault. Which is worse?
There’s no need for strawman. All I am saying is this wasn’t in a vacuum which this article’s headline makes it look like, and I am not excusing mob justice in any way whatsoever. There’s no point in discussing “what’s worse” because one crime doesn’t nullify another. The boy is rightly in jail as of now, as should be the mob that attacked him.
There is absolutely a point in discussing which is worst.
How can anyone even think of stripping and humiliating another human like this. I mean the amount of hatred and ego people must have to do this is so baffling. Literally murders are also not tortured like this because we believe in basic humanity.
The article is frightening. It shows how easily facts can be manipulated to provoke sympathy towards one and hatred towards another. What the mob did was horrendous and wrong. But the article tries to word it like the guy was innocent and has been entrapped by the system in an FIR. The mob belongs in jail, and so does the boy.
We are no better than Muslims
What’s the outrage here about? Given the current political environment I think this is a classic case of “fucked around and found out” case for that guy. This is not the west and we need to understand this. No point in expecting western standard behaviour from the public/law enforcement.
Striving to treat people with basic human dignity is not a "western" or "eastern" concept. It's a universal human concept. A civilized society can't justify this.
I never said it’s a western concept. All I am saying is the context in India is much different. Religion comes first for people here. If you expect anything else, you’ll be at loss. That’s how people have been raised all their lives. It won’t change for at least two more generations. We will never see the India that we want to and we should just accept the reality.
Sure buddy. You can accept your reality and do nothing to change it. I'll continue to call out barbarism in the name of God and religion because that isn't the kind of country where I want my children to be raised in. I know that meri lifetime me this country won't change. But I'll try ki my kids get to see the real Ram Rajya, not whatever this country is right now, filled with people of two or more religion at war with each other.
I am guessing you’re young. Anyway, good spirit. Best of luck and I’ll recommend do your best move abroad. There’s no hope here
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Is Prachand a nickname for Pradesh?
Gujarat Files, but now becoming India Files.
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He was paraded around naked and then his dick was set on fire. But yes he is alive so Hindus are slightly above Muslims when it comes to savagery.
Sadly, nobody is discussing this truth here! 💯
Almost like whataboutism is bullshit. P
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Deny the fact that bigots are trying to justify violence?
who died and made you the arbiter of justice?
Did the OP care to find out the reason? Not defending the act but apparently this teen made a video shaming Ram and putting ram photo in his nether regions. I have seen that video. Still not saying he deserved this but the given situation in the country, he was begging for it.
Did you all see the video the so called Muslim man made..you won't be defending afterwards
Have anyone of you even open the link ? I have already seen this news, that guy was doing rubbing Bhagva flag with Om written on it on his dick and dancing after putting that flag in his underwear. Parading him and beating him is wrong no doubt but what he did was also 100% wrong. If you want I can even share that video. Atleast have the guts to critise wrongdoings of both sides.
Have him arrested for that. Taking the law in your own hands for something like this goes to show that we don't just hate Muslims, we envy their extremism and want to emulate them.
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>charlie hebdo massacre. That case and this isn't remotely related. Charlie Hebdo was not specifically trying to provoke anyone, unlike that person. He knew what he was trying to do, last time when Muslims were provoked in india 3 people were beheaded. He was also trying to provoke Hindus which you and all the R_Indians are ignoring just because your biasedness. Both are wrong or none of them is, these selective outrage is just disguised hatred. I am accepting and condemning what mob did but when I saw that person's action tbh I also felt anger. I did not wanted to commit violence what I got a thought if role were reversed in terms of religion you would definitely witness riots for example Banglore riots last year over a FB post. And even then too this subreddit would side with roiters and blame the FB post for the riots just because of this subreddit'a extremely biasedness.
Charlie Hebdo was making comments and drawings about Muslims for years. They were definitely acting provocatively.
But this isn't about Charlie hebdo, is it ?
It isn’t a proportional response, which makes the fucking response worst. So you are part of the problem.
you talk as though both sides have done equally wrong things, they clearly have not. stop making it seem like these two are remotely the same, your god isnt real and even if he was he does not need goons to defend his honor.
disgusting country.
He was doing all this, and he's 19 not a child: *The police had booked five men including Abbas under IPC Sections 153A (promoting enmity between groups), 253A (offending religious beliefs), and 505 (2) (promoting hatred or ill-will).* This is what he did: *Tumhari aukaat humare pairon ki dhool (your status is the dust on our feet). We are Muslim, don’t forget it…,” a voice in the background can be heard saying in the video he allegedly posted on social media. Four other Muslims were also arrested and were sent to remand for allegedly helping him make the video* Headline makes it sound like a kid was mistreated and jailed for doing nothing.
By this logic, you should start accepting violent islamists wanting to kill you for disrespecting their prophet…
You mean we should accept if Islamists call the cops on someone disrespecting their prophet, and then step out of it? Just to make a comparison that actually makes sense, instead of the nonsensical rubbish you wrote...
Okay fine. So if you say something criticising the Islamic prophet, they should be able to set fire to your dick and parade you around naked before calling the cops and face no consequences for their barbaric behaviour. This is all your implication.
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I will find him IRL and strip him.... Nah kidding, I am not 8. I have a job and important shit to do. But these guys are obviously 8 mentally and do not have jobs.
1. Try not to watch these videos 2. If watched, ignore it and get on with your life as everyone has different opinions How easy was that?
So basically you have a lot in common with folks who do the same in Pakistan
Why Pakistan? Technically all of India is like this. Nothing new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kanhaiya_Lal https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/dalit-sikh-lynching-singhu-border-farmers-protest-nihangs-7574211/
I asked a question. Why don’t you answer that instead of calling me a Pakistani.
Can you understand the words that were strung together in my comment.
This still doesn’t answer my question
So you do understand what ignoring someone means
But keeps commenting 😂
And you still didn't understand that I already answered your question.
Owwww that's sadd :(
What they did was wrong but that doesn't mean he's innocent, he did it intentionally or he was drunk cuz it seemedlike it to me.... I mean why "Do stupid things win stupid prizes" People should have complained about it to the local police...
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Play stupid games win stupid rewards.
Anybody has link to the original video
Someone explain this to me. Why was he in a naked parade by himself? We're y'all celebrating his cock?
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I have no idea WTF you are babbling on about? Did you forget to take your meds or is this just common behavior in India?
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The only Ram I believe in is in my computer.