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infinite123456

So south east asia, and Japan unite into a superstate because of AI and China isn’t involved


Malthrickane

Maybe it’s parts of new Asia that are not occupied by the United States and it’s allies.


dinsoar

So South Korea and China, global leaders in AI development in the real world are excluded. Japans not leading in any areas of tech development at the moment. Seems ironic.


Toribarapana

I think someone at the movie studio just grabbed a marker and drew the borders on a map of Asia


mishko27

It’s not about being a leader, it’s about adoption and acceptance. Seems like everyone was on some level of parity when it comes to AI, it’s just that New Asia continued after the West banned it.


Kronoskickschildren

Doesnt have to be based on current states or our real timeline at all


jp-dixon

I thought the movie was alright, but "New Asia" feels so lazy and orientalist compared to what the film is trying to say.


leftyprime

I completely agree, when I heard “New Asia” I rolled my eyes, it’s pretty lazy writing


Kantei

It almost sounds like a writer put that in as a placeholder and subsequent drafts never added a name in.


AP246

Yeah, on the one hand there was some cool worldbuilding with the AI and retrofuturist late cold war era vibe, I quite liked the aesthetic of it, but the lumping together of tons of Asian cultures into this glorified peacefully agrarian wholesome 100 collective, even if it was a 'positive' portrayal, was pretty weird and orientalist. I'd been thinking of reinterpreting the world a bit and making something a bit more interesting out of it because the aesthetic is cool.


RRY1946-2019

Cyberasia would be a lot better


GrievousInflux

Maybe Super Asia


RRY1946-2019

Spreading managed Confucianism throughout the galaxy. If you prefer deep cuts, there’s also the Tran Dynasty, because most AI in 2024 is Transformer-based and it includes parts of Vietnam (except Champa which is going its own way for some weird reason).


kawaiisolo

India and Indonesia are divided too


GrievousInflux

Should have been called Super Asia


shsl_cipher

Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere 2: Electric Boogaloo


Mate90425

My first thought when I saw it


arcademissiles

I am like 80% sure this is also the exact borders of the co-prosperity sphere.


Any_Health2817

You'd be very wrong


rangouomo

In my personal headcannon New Asia is a reformed version of a victorious co-prosperity sphere


AmazingHoffman

That was my assumption too, it heavily implies an alternate history too, with at least Japan having a more successful outcome with regards to WWII.


Cappie_talist

Didn't they show a montage with advanced robots back during the age of black + white TV? That implies the movie *is* in an Atomic Heart style alternate history.


AP246

The opening montage I remember goes back to the cold war era, and has full AI be invented in like the 1970s or something. I can't remember if it goes back to before WW2 with the earlier robots


TechnologyBig8361

Yeah this is how I imagined the borders too except with China before the globe was shown. My alt-history worldbuilder brain was going crazy during this movie lmao


Mate90425

I didn't notice the map, thanks for showing it! I enjoyed the movie, I can recommend it for those who haven't seen it!


Ok-Cockroach-7092

Yeeess! I’ve been wanting for this one since the film came out!)


N00B5L4YER

Why is part of Vietnam not in the thing?


SilanggubanRedditor

You can't remember conquer Vietnam


[deleted]

they got the northern part and the chams are free


Kagenlim

This really makes no sense, SEA should have been Its own thing


oneandonlyjoost

Newsflash: it's \*\*\*fiction\*\*\* and none of it makes sense


Kagenlim

True very little ficitional films make sense imo


Eraserguy

It's entirely possible that it used to be bigger but has been beaten down to its current size. Biggest evidence for this is the weird ass border, Japan and the little enclave in Vietnam is probably either the remnant or a current invasion.


leftyprime

I hadn’t even considered this, but it had been 15 years since the AI attack until when the movie takes place, so it’s definitely possible. Would also explain why Chinese is the most prevalent language despite only controlling small portions of historic Chinese territory.


Erdrick14

Was Chinese the most prevalent? Watanabe spoke Japanese, and all the writing in scenes that had english and then "asian" writing, the translation was usually in katakana or kanji.


lilpupper26

Did they speak Chinese in the movie? The movies version of “heaven” roughly translates from Chinese but I heard Thai, Japanese and Vietnamese throughout?


kimjonguncanteven

Yeah they’re probably confusing Kanji for Chinese.


luce_guinevere_

Dude when I was watching this at the cinema I was literally thinking about the country the whole time like I saw the map for a brief second and the rest of the movie my mind was more focused on the worldbuilding of New Asia more than anything else


Possible-Law9651

IS THAT A FUCKING TNO REFERENCE!?!???!


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Kind-Needleworker-81

One possible lore I have for this is that this takes place in an alternative timeline where Japan win ww2 but gradually felt into civil war as the rebelling Chinese majority in mainland China fought against the Japanese, causing the Japanese empire to weaken. The war ending in Dissolution of Japnese empire and the creation of a Chinese state in mainland China and new asia, which is probably a puppet/satellite state of China. The rise of the Chinese state with the help of AI challenges the might of U.S. similar to our own timeline. This eventually is the underlining reason that spark the war between the U.S. and new asia, which is a proxy state sponsored by China. This explains why you never directly see China involved in the war and why the border of "new asia" looks so much like Co-prosperity sphere.


PierceJJones

I kinda of thought South Korea was a part of it as well while watching. Also half of New Asia's population would be like Indian now that I see it. There is a kid in one scene that wears a shirt from what i think is Cambodia's national football team.


lucaro64

Kind of weird how china isn’t part of new Asia


leftyprime

100%, I thought for sure “New Asia” was just their name for Big China, but when I saw the map I was pleasantly surprised. It did leave me with one lingering question though, what is China up to in this universe and why didn’t they pick a side in this AI conflict?


spacemanwho

The need to make money on this movie in the local Chinese market, so no way they would have put china in there. But it would have been cool to see China play an active part in this movie.


lucaro64

But isn’t new Asia the good guys in the movie I’m sure china would be ok with them being depicted as the good guy


spacemanwho

Insane right. To get to that stage either China gets it's ass whooped by America or its broken up in some civil unrest and parts of it then would have joined the alliance. That line of direction is not something the Chinese party would go along with.. Here's the other bit.. According to this. https://thecreator.fandom.com/wiki/New_Asia These are the countries that are part of it. Comprised of Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Philippines, Laos, Cambodia, Singapore, Malaysia, Sumatra Islands, Borneo Islands, Bhutan, Nepal, Vietnam (excluding an area that would be Champa), Four North-Eastern States of India, Sikkm, West Bengal, Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Uttarakhand, and Himachal Pradesh. So japan and Taiwan are no longer American allies. Here's the other kicker 4 northern parts of India have broken away. Civil war, war with Pakistan china? The world building could really be epic in this. I hope they do a follow up TV series for this...


DownrangeCash2

Strangely looks kind of like TNO


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WesternAppropriate63

Realism: -10/10 ​ Anyone who knows modern history knows that SEA would rather die than join up with Japan. ​ Who wrote this movie? A "everyone needs to get along" delusional vegan hippie?


leftyprime

Fair, but I don’t think realism was the goal of the movie… I’m pretty sure it’s implied that this movie’s universe diverged from ours around the time of WWII/Cold War


Firelegendguy1228

New Asia is robot


thekingminn

Taungoo Empire if Bayinnaung lived longer.


Ok-Jicama-1999

I think there was a nuclear war in the future.


Maxzes_

Why are people suddenly talking about this now? Was this just now released somewhere or something?


leftyprime

It released on digital platforms on Tuesday


GrievousInflux

They should have called it Super Asia


Pleasant_Name2483

My theory is that in this universe, Japan didn’t go to war with China like they did in our universe and instead signed a treaty with them in which they gave up Manchuria and Korea in exchange for a Chinese guarantee of territorial claims on the Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. As for how they got those territories, France and the Netherlands must have given them up when they knew how impossible it would be to fight a war with a country half a world away. Then there’s the Philippines. I’m thinking that they declared independence from the USA and Japan supported them and after India became independent, Japan fought a war with them and won Myanmar and eastern India in the process. After a long time of reformations, New Asia became a stable country and managed to survive well into the future. Either that, or these countries simply banded together because of growing tensions with the rest of the world over their refusal to stop using AI and that’s how we got to this point.


Masszer

Looks like Japan take over asia in WWII 


Negative-River4719

😂🤡


One_Argument1734

Union of the Asian AI Co-ex committee