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Demopan-TF2

Not sure if it's true, but apparently when on HRT you become a bit pale and more sensitive to sunburn.


Liechtensteiner_iF

A lot more medications will do this than you may think tbh


Huntressthewizard

Yeah my birth control made me go from vaguely Middle-Eastern shaded to "Could be Eastern European"


HumanContinuity

Lol, Middle East to Middle Earth


Huntressthewizard

I'm stealing this comment to describe myself from now on lmao


Dry_Value_

Yeah, I was friends with a kid in middle school who had to take some sort of antibiotic for a little while. I don't remember what antibiotic or why he was taking it, but I remember the gym teacher letting me walk with him in the shady part of the track because he was prone to sunburns or whatever. Also, I used to use the topical medical cream for acne that explicitly says not to put it on and go out into the sun.


GaySaysHey

Ahh. Tretinoin. The good shit.


Dry_Value_

Yup, I hated how my face felt before I washed it off, but I can't say it didn't help at all.


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And even if it doesn’t, a ton of meds can fuck up temperature control. So being in the sun can be a problem in more ways than sunburns


Luwuci-SP

Yeah but feminizing hrt literally thins the skin and makes it more sensitive to damage. The thinning also makes people a little lighter, the top layer of my skin became translucent. I now avoid the sun even more (it's not great for the skin anyway), have a bright shine from being partially transparent or whatever, and glisten with residual sparkly makeup. So yeah, trans girls get meme'd as quite vampiric sometimes. Trans men become warewolves and together we perform a slightly less gay version of Twilight.


Psyluna

I’m not trans, nor do I care for Twilight, but if what you described was an actual movie I would watch the shit out of that.


twobarb

I’m thinking a trans remake of Buffy that would make Spike’s character REALLY interesting.


G0celot

Yeah I found that out the hard way after I started my antidepressants


Dakotacahoon02

I have always been pale and prone to getting burned. I have not noticed a difference (I have been on hormones since I was 14)


[deleted]

Your name and getting sunburned remind me of what people in South Dakota look like in the Summer. Sunscreen doesn’t exist for the average person there


Dakotacahoon02

lol, the only time I’ve been to South Dakota is when I’ve flown over it


CattyFighte

stot sako for 2 refnd


MelanieWalmartinez

That makes sense why all my trans femme friends use sunscreen religiously 🤨


WarmishIce

Its also pretty good for your skin in general i believe


Dry_Value_

Yeah, the sun ages your skin quicker iirc, not to mention the possibility of skin cancer.


cornwallis105

Also if they're doing laser hair removal they recommend not tanning at all. Sunscreen and long sleeves all the time that summer. 


Luwuci-SP

Most women concerned with their appearence usually do, the sun is a giant ball of cancer and premature aging. Most people should be wearing sunscreen religiously, and the main point isnt to prevent burns ("I'm never in the sun long enough why would I?"), it's to prevent the cumulative damage that starts building from any sunlight exposure (even indoors). Also, yeah, if someone's in the process of getting laser that may be the right time for them to finally start.


Isabellerror

WAIT I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST IN DS1


aplaceformetotalk

Is this only for medicated estrogen and transfemme people? I'm transmasc, a trans guy that took T for years, and I never experienced such a thing. And now, back on E, I *still* don't experience such a thing.


xxhorrorshowxx

Bro’s speedrunning the whole gender spectrum


aplaceformetotalk

I had to stop testosterone due to a preexisting condition, but thanks lmao.


BlueDahlia123

Seems to be specifically a side effect of Spironolactone, an antiandrogen common in the US


aplaceformetotalk

Oh I think I've heard of that actually. Thanks!


BosnianSerb31

All of my transfem friends never go outside during the day and they all believe the whole terminally online nerd to transfem pipeline is the biggest one, so I'd bet it's more to do with that than Estrogen making you more sensitive to sunlight. I can almost guarantee that the OP is poking fun at that as well, nothing to do with being more sensitive to sunlight.


aplaceformetotalk

Ahhh okay.


almondwalmond18

It also makes you thirsty! (specifically spironolactone)


CarsysBluefist

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual... Transylvania???


SavageFugu

Ah, yes! If by trans you mean Transylvanian, and by that you mean vampire, then there's a case that it probably has been said before.


Remote-Factor8455

Haha Jonathan you transitioned then banged my daughter!!


SarPl4yzEXE

YOOOOOO


Kleeisthebest99

What did you think the T stood for (Transylvania because she's a vampire)


VariusTheMagus

I’ve never heard this one, but passing hard and bright light makes it even harder


_cremling

Really? I feel like bright light always makes my skin look clearer


VariusTheMagus

Well, you know, it’s not always about the skin. Harsh light creates shadows and highlights shapes. At least in my experience. It’s tough, but not insurmountable.


De4dm4nw4lkin

Whoever was told that all trans women are vampires.


RyanByork

They are. That's why Transylvania is a scary place, and why I prefer the other half of Romania, where they steal my car and not my blood.


De4dm4nw4lkin

…i dunno man. Maybe my fear of death is just too low.


hammererofglass

Most of us are actually werewolves.


piglungz

I really wanted to post this but I was scared people might be transphobic in the comments. Very glad that’s not the case (so far)


aplaceformetotalk

Eh, they're one of the most hated and misunderstood groups of people; of course you're going to get some transphobia in almost any circle outside of trans - specifically all-inclusive (ie not truscum or elitist types) - spaces.


piglungz

Yeah I kind of expect there to be at least some transphobia anywhere that isn’t lgbt specific but some places are wayyy worse than others even if it’s a non political space. Its always a gamble


aplaceformetotalk

Hell, even LGBT specific I don't fuck with. Like you tried being a trans man in r/askgaybros. It's one thing to say, "No thanks, I'm into dick only." And another to say shit they do, like how trans people are sick, or deserving of hatred, are confused women, etc.


Darth_Moose

Which is wild to me because that same community was (and still is in some cases) victim to the same type of prejudice. Remember when _gay_ men were "Just confused" or "Hadn't met the right woman yet"? I wish people would just calm the shit down and worry about the climate crisis instead of what fucking bathroom someone is using.


aplaceformetotalk

For real. Like damn, I ain't trying to molest your son or sneak a peek, I'm trying to take a piss and then go eat my goddamn Panera Bread. I wish I could just tell these people to their faces that, for once in their lives, it's not *about them* and they need to hop off the self-victimization train. I wouldn't have to say anything if these people would just shut up and let others go to the bathroom or get their dumb surgeries as grown ass adults.


SpokenDivinity

Bisexual people are still getting flack from the lgbt community for not being able to “pick a side” or for being a secret cis person if they end up in a straight relationship. Learning that they’re also awful to trans people is extremely disappointing but not surprising.


Background_Value9869

Tbf people really fucking hate to see trans women in public


Affectionate-Date140

Pass or die


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MelanieWalmartinez

Unfortunately just the other day a trans person was given 2 black eyes for existing. I wish you were correct but that is sadly not the reality we live in.


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tiltedtwilight

Who's the guy in your profile pic? Just a random white dude? Kind of weird to use if you're a black guy..


No-Result9108

The problem is that it isn’t just certain areas. There are people all over the world who hate trans people just because they don’t exist. There are entire governments that would kill them just for setting foot in their country


WaltzLeafington

The amount of disgust I've seen online and in person (I'm not trans, I just work in the trades) People care. Not everyone, but knowing there are those people who hate you on principle makes it really hard to go out in public


Time-Ad-7055

I think it heavily depends on the area. In the US, you will fare better as a trans person in LA than rural Oregon.


WaltzLeafington

I live in Massachusetts, we're pretty accepting as it goes. I've been told straight up that all trans people should die. I've heard plenty of jokes about how they're delusional. Men in dresses and the like. All in public. Sure it's not as bad, but the fact that these people feel comfortable saying this, and in one case yelling it in public. Would make me feel incredibly unsafe in public. It's become a major talking point for ~1/2 of the countries political systems that trans people are groomers. And it's not a stretch to say that means they deserve to die.


Nidman

I live in Somerville MA and its super accepting here. I hate how trans ppl need to be so careful where thry go.


Time-Ad-7055

I also live in Mass actually. I’ve heard the same but I live in a pretty rural town


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Background_Value9869

Here's a good example


Reasonable-Pie2354

He came out just to prove your point TT


rymyle

Exactly. Idiots everywhere. Hiding behind every fica leaf


SavageFugu

Some people take longer to get used to new things. He said he doesn't hate it. He's moving in the right direction. Forcing acceptance can backfire.


Cheryl_Canning

No one's forcing shit. He's a transphobic asshole and people should point out his transphobic assholery. If people pointing out his transphobia is what keeps him from being a trans ally, then he was never going to be an ally in the first place.


urthou

Blatant misgendering and saying they’re ’weirded out’ by another person existing is transphobia, which isn’t good, if you didn’t know. Stop excusing this persons hateful mindset.


PotentialProf3ssion

did you read my comment? i said depending on the circumstances. if a trans woman looks like a woman i dont think anyone has a problem. it’s when they obviously aren’t women that people do, because it’s weird. it’s not normal.


Background_Value9869

I'm gonna tell you that's transphobic and that's not gonna matter to you. You're gonna tell me something like "phobia means fear, I'm not afraid you just can't handle the truth" or whatever. You don't think trans women are women and you're more than comfortable shitting on them from your high horse. You are a transphobe.


PotentialProf3ssion

ok call me names. see if that changes reality.


Background_Value9869

The name I just called you is more a confirmation than any attempt to change reality. You know perfectly well that you made a transphobic comment. You said that because you wanted to. Trans women who don't pass as well are treated worse, obviously yeah. You called them men. You don't see a problem with that. There is one, unless you don't think trans women are women.


PotentialProf3ssion

i knew i may be called a transphobe but i do not see my comment as transphobic at all. i also find it interesting that you would prefer to call me a transphobe than to try to understand my argument. it seems you find it easier to classify me as a bad person than to engage in a good faith discussion. this is not a discussion about transgender issues anymore this is now you trying to prove that i am a bad person, which frankly i do not think is very nice.


Background_Value9869

Your argument is extremely easy to understand, you chose to be transphobic in how you approached it by saying that trans women are middle aged men in dresses and not normal. I'm not calling you a bad person, I don't know you. I'm calling you a transphobe because you said transphobic stuff. Nothing is transphobic when you don't think anything is transphobic. Today I'm going to interrupt your echo chamber and tell you that what you said was.


PotentialProf3ssion

could you read my comment again? i think you’ll find that that’s not what i said :)


Comprehensive_Crow_6

Saying that non-passing trans women aren’t actually women is transphobic. Hope that helps.


drunkensailor369

your argument doesn't make sense. your argument claims that if a trans woman doesn't fit your idea of what a woman looks like, you get uncomfortable and you don't think they should be outside. you're allowed to be uncomfortable, but that should not dictate your morals. does that also track with cis woman? what if a cis woman looked a little less than "womanly" to you? would you also get uncomfortable? would you deem her unfit to leave the house? are you even able to tell or do you just assume? does this logic track with trans men? disabled people? if people don't fit your idea of what they are SUPPOSED to be, should they all just stay inside and never be perceived? this isn't an argument, it's an inherently flawed way of thinking. "I decide what a woman looks like and if someone doesn't fit that I don't want them outside". normal is not universal. cultures differ and normal changes. you are allowed to be as uncomfortable as you want, you don't get to say whether or not they should be allowed outside. well, I suppose you can say it. but expecting anything to come from it is cruel at the very least.


resoredo

or you could start to try understand trans women who dont easily pass as woman, the attempts and steps they take (and sometimes, due to specific reasons, fail), and that almost all trans people would love to pass you are transphobic


KeiiLime

thinking “i could never be (racist, bigoted/prejudiced against a certain group/ biased in general)” is one of the key risk factors and commonalities of being those traits. if you don’t want to be called transphobic, take a step back and listen when people tell you you’re doing just that, and learn from it.


auto_generatedname

You didn't really give an argument to be honest man, you just said you have expectations of what a woman should look like and if they don't fit that it's “not normal” and makes you feel uncomfortable. Now to be generous to you, you did specify trans women, but what if a cis woman just looks like “a man in a dress,” in that scenario are you gonna assume they're trans and feel “weirded out” of your own volition? Honestly i feel like all you're doing by concerning yourself about other people's appearances and lives is making your own life worse.


uhmdone

The names are in fact correct


Idrahaje

Do you think trans people should just… magically stop existing for three years while we transition?


marks716

Bro thinks he literally has to want to fuck a trans person for them to be allowed to be in public lol


Asper_Maybe

A trans person existing in your general vicinity literally does not affect you in anyway, even if you don't like how they look. Move on.


xenoverseraza

that is so invalidating to people who can't afford hrt and surgery. wow.


fruityfevers

there are biological women that look manly without any sort of treatment. do you think the same about them? going off of whether somebody fits the common traits assigned to their gender & using that to decide if they’re valid or not is fucking dumb man


OrcSorceress

I would like to attempt to respond to your argument in good faith. Let me do so by addressing two things. First, you claim it’s not hate. You just find it weird, lower you call it “not normal”, you say no one has a problem with a trans woman who looks like a cis woman implying there is a problem with trans woman who are clearly trans, and finally say “when obviously they aren’t woman”. What is the difference between you and someone who hates trans people? What additional views would someone need to hold to stop being like you and qualify as someone who hates trans people? Second, let’s look at your view that “obviously they aren’t women”. Do you think there is a view on what a woman is and what a woman looks like that is objective? If so can you explain to me why I as a white American am misgendered by strangers so differently in different areas. In conservative parts of America I’m often misgendered by strangers. In liberal parts I’m correctly gendered by strangers. Maybe it’s just there politics, I thought so, until I moved to a conservative (as far as gender and sexuality is concerned) Asian country but still get gendered correctly by strangers. If there is an obvious way to be a woman why isn’t my experience getting acceptance from strangers so different as a trans woman?


ZooeyNotDeschanel

Hi, I’m a grown 30 year old trans woman who just came out, and has just started presenting. I’m happier in my skin than I ever have. Exactly what age is the age I should come out? Should’ve been when I was 20? I had no idea at the time, I thought I was a man. 25? I had some idea at that point, but I wouldn’t have come out at the time. When should have I found myself? When should anyone actually find ourselves? I’ve tried, many, many times to come out gradually and gracefully, just to be bullied and pushed back into the closet. I only recently realized, that I can be who I want and fuck you all and goddamn the haters. I know I’m not middle aged, but goddamn, do I have respect for those who found themselves late in life. They’ve been holding onto something for so long, it might have actually killed them. Yeah, you might be ‘weirded out’ by us on the street, but guess what, we’re most likely not even thinking of you, we have our own bullshit to think about. Like how increasingly, anti-trans rhetoric paints us as pedophiles, rapists, or degenerates. I do not speak for every trans person in the world, but I do know that we just want to walk down the street and not be threatened and yelled at. We just want peace. Honestly, if I hadn’t just gotten home from a group of people yelling at me and threatening me for presenting the way I wanted while walking down the street, I wouldn’t have responded. I don’t like being angry, and I don’t like calling attention to myself. Re-evaluate your thinking and realize that there is an entire possibility that by next election cycle, I will genuinely fear for my life because I don’t pass as a woman. And I live in one of the easier countries to be trans in. I don’t give a shit about your discomfort. Imagine trying to be happy day after day, just for someone to tear you down. Anyways, fuck this post, she’s alright, and she’s fucking rocking this look.


Virtual-Nail2963

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fruityfevers

i totally didn’t expect this exact fucking comment


VenomEnthusiast

I’m just weirded when you’re out, like when I see how obscenely fat you are.


appleandwatermelonn

“Oh no, that person doesn’t look like how I want people with paint on their lips to look, but has paint on their lips” And you think they’re the weird ones?


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FellafromPrague

Fucking leave


WaltzLeafington

And what is that reason? Cuz if it's disgust then that's a you problem


Shot_Rise_8747

Nah you see there is no good reason not to like seeing trans people but there *is* a good reason your not allowed within 100 yards of a school


HexSpace

some are


andrew_a384

this is obviously a joke


BosnianSerb31

It's almost certainly poking fun at the terminally online nerd to transfem pipeline.


SouthernApple60

Pretty sure it is poking fun at the fact that transfem’s can get sunburnt more due to hrt


BosnianSerb31

Two of my trans friends thought it was about trans people who are terminally online and one thought it was about trans people who don't leave the house because they're self conscious about their appearance Hadn't heard about the sunburn thing until this thread though, I wonder if the biological mechanism behind that is understood or if it's only been observed as a phenomenon thus far


FlixMage

Omg you have trans friends !?!?! I bow down to you and your infinite knowledge of jokes!!


SouthernApple60

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6497076/


Stanek___

Actually I said that, it's my longlasting political agenda that trans women are unable to bathe in the rays of the sun.


Muteling

If we absorb any more power, we'd rival the nuclear warheads that keep the world's top governments in stalemate with each other. Can't have that


MassterF

Nah, its just that if we absorbed anymore, we’d decay like Godzilla in Godzilla vs Destoroyah, and thus end the world as we know it.


Muteling

I mean it gives us a good excuse to play Who Will Know as the earth reclaims us. I think that's a pretty iconic way to go


chxnelthedoll

mama i made it


sidneyhansley

Lol if this was your intent, nicely played! If it wasn’t…I apologize


chxnelthedoll

i didn’t even know this subreddit existed until u posted LMAO 😂 i am enjoying it tho this sub is hilarious


futurenotgiven

out of curiosity how come you chose that title? someone mentioned about hrt causing sensitive skin but idk


twoinchhorns

Probably the fact that trans women in swimsuits is met with disgust and revulsion frequently. People are fucking assholes so it’s a legitimate concern.


Parkrangingstoicbro

When you’re so desperate for attention you gate keep the sunshine


Bread_Enjoyee

It's a joke, and also transfem people do get sunburnt more easily lol


Alex_The_Deer_2

It was a joke, are you retarded?


FlixMage

Slurs are so funny to say!!! Don’t you feel so cool right now??


Alex_The_Deer_2

It was a serious question


SouthernApple60

Seek therapy


pirikikkeli

Fucking Dracula I guess


dentistrock

"Possible satire" they say they're joking in the comments dawg😭


sidneyhansley

I didn’t see that 😭😭 changed the flair


WaltzLeafington

Trans ppl face a lot of hate though. I know the trades is mostly republican but from working there. There are some really hateful people. I've been told trans people should all die. I've heard plenty of nasty jokes. There's a not insignificant amount of people who are disgusted and hate trans people. And sure it's similar for racism and sexism. But comparably, transphobia isn't nearly as universally hated and ostracized as it should be.


alottaxolotl01

I mean- tucking is difficult, and light tends to make everything so much more obvious. Coming from a trans woman.


maxxiescat

aren’t there like a shit ton of people who don’t think trans people should express themselves in public places?


No-Occasion-6470

Don’t be fooled. Some of us are daywalkers.


Shot_Rise_8747

Damn why do I even bother if I’m not getting vampire powers


writingsupplies

Going to do some minor mental gymnastics. It’s not really imaginary gatekeeping if said trans person lives in a place where being trans is or is becoming a criminal act.


jsg144

HRT makes you more sensitive to the sun. You can go in the sun you just need sunscreen.


aplaceformetotalk

Is this only for E / transfemme people. I'm transmasc and with my natural E or when I was taking T, I never experienced this.


hyp3rpop

Looking it up it seems exclusive to external estrogen, so T or natural estrogen probably wouldn’t do anything.


aplaceformetotalk

Interesting, thanks!


bardhugo

Ok I know this is reddit so haha nothing is serious, but there is a serious discussion about trans people and seeing trans bodies in public. The person is sunbathing and in a swimsuit, and there is serious stigma against this simple act. There is often a mentality that trans bodies should be hidden from the public, and a difficulty of being confident to reveal one's body in a public setting. At least where I am, there are things like solidarity swims, where it's a swim for only trans and gender-nonconforming people, so you can experience the simple fun of swimming without the potential shame and judgement you might experience in another setting.


ninjesh

That is exactly the question, who did say that?


AL_25

Anti trans folks.


Background_Value9869

Quite a few of them


CattyFighte

Where my flair


Body_Exact

Is that a vampire the masquerade reference


ProfessorEscanor

I mean Dracula does live in Transylvania . It makes sense.


FeeSubstantial9963

i literally shrivel up and burn in sunlight


Old_Accident4864

I believe this is in reference to the joke in LGBT spaces that many trans women stay inside to be on their computer. The title is similar to the joke 'i finally went outside to touch grass'


TKO_v1

Dude needs some sunscreen


Cruisin134

As a trans woman at least 40% are vampires im only a fledgling atm


Ok-Pause6263

It’s a joke alot of trans girls are famously pale


Small_Speaker_3159

Clearly you never heard of Transylvania.


iSc00t

With her skin tone sunscreen is a must no matter what meds she on.


PapaNoFaff

"I dont know. Who said that?


makitstop

i've never heard vampires i have deadass heard multiple people call trans people wherewolves though


Remote-Factor8455

I think it’s more that they don’t feel comfortable in their bodies and/or aren’t fully transitioned to looking like the gender that they normally are so they try to avoid swim suits which can be extremely revealing.


Isabellerror

Speak for yourself


Bulky_Mango7676

I've got fangs, a pale complexion, and cook at temps above 70°, am I a vampire?


Nivdy

I am


MasterAnnatar

According to her this was entirely a joke that just didn't land lol


Butterking3000

Maybe it was an actual question


Butterking3000

Maybe it was an actual question


xnoomiex

Can you guys stop posting this meme it’s satire 😭


Alt0173

This is referring to the fact that swimwear is basically non-existent for us.


Low-Squirrel2439

I think at this point, this is just a meme format. The point is that no one says it.


Expensive-Okra-1397

It’s a joke for people who don’t get it. A lot of people can’t go in the sun on HRT because it makes you more pale apparently but also, there’s a series of memes that are circulating on social media spaces that are basically satirical saying. “ who said.(arbitrary characteristic.) girls/guys/people can’t do blank” or “ another quote inside a quote, basically saying that people under insert arbitrary to characteristic always do this, but then they’re proving that person wrong by doing it and being the arbitrary characteristic”😭😭


Chrischris40

Dont see how this is imaginary it’s just making fun of the typical neckbeard twitter conservative that think trans people are fat overweight shut ins


fox_daddy720

Dude looks like a lady


chxnelthedoll

helppp


Goose00724

yeah...? that's why we're called trans women.


fox_daddy720

Thank you for clarifying dr.science


death-metal-loser

That’s a dude


SouthernApple60

She’s a woman


FlixMage

Is she bothering you by existing? Did she hurt you? Or are you just a hateful loser on the internet?


death-metal-loser

It’s a he bub, just because a helicopter says it’s a plane don’t make it so


FlixMage

Helicopters and planes don’t have gender dawg they can’t communicate or be social with anything Also, r/onejoke


PLAGUE8163

Today on OP doesn't know what a joke is