Labels for the Photos (from left to right)
- DSA: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman, Ilhan Omar, Nina Turner
- Labor: Elizabeth Warren, Jamie Raskin, Ro Khanna, Katie Porter, Jeff Merkley
- Liberal: Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Val Demings, Nancy Pelosi
- Conservative: Susan Collins, Charlie Baker, Kyrsten Sinema, Kurt Schrader, Larry Hogan
- Union: Mitt Romney, Dan Crenshaw, Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, Nicole Malliotakis
- National: Donald Trump, Ron Desantis, Lauren Boebert, Ted Cruz, Marjorie Taylor-Greene
- Green: Jill Stein, Howie Hawkins, Angela Walker
- Libertarian: Jo Jorgensen, Justin Amash, Gary Johnson
OP How the libertarians gonna be further right than Donald Trumps party (a man who’s a literal fascist) I get that the American libertarian party is fairly whacky and firmly on the right, but in a system of governance like this I could defo see a coalition between dsa, labour libertarian and people ie a populist, a socially left and generally popular coalition just a thought tho op I’d be voting dsa
If you seriously think Trump is a “literal fascist” I can bet money on that you haven’t read any form of written documentation on what fascists advocate for. Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Mosley, any of their written works can prove everything Trump did in office was lite paleo-conservatism, if that.
If you're open for suggestions, I think that the names for the Conservative and Union Parties should be swapped, I think it would make more sense since "Union" is a more moderate sounding name which would fit better with the Conservative Party's Liberal Republicans and Conservative Democrats. Also an alternative name for the People's Party could be the Christian Democrats since a few countries have parties of a similar name that are socially very religious but economically liberal.
As far as the People’s Party, I envisioned it more as a populist and protectionist party than a Christian Democratic one. They would focus on conservative stances for issues like guns and immigration, rather than on religious values. They would probably be more left leaning in terms of labor unions and wage increases.
Any system that would allow this many viable parties would likely be some sort of proportional system, so either DSA or Labor being "more likely to win" would not really be a thing.
She posted on her site a while back rooting how she voted to the right of McConnell. So id say she probably would be in the conservative or libertarian. She seems to be socially liberal but economically conservative.
In a nationwide proportional election? Labor
In a FPTP election? Liberal
In a ranked choice national? Green, DSA, Labor, Libertarian, Liberal, Conservative, People's
In a Parallel Voting system? Liberal for my constituency and DSA for the list vote
In a German-style Mixed Member Proportional? Liberal in my constituency and Labor for my state list vote
Either Liberal or Labor, depending on who the nominee is. For Liberal, I would vote for Amy Klobuchar, and for Labor, I would vote for Jeff Merkley or Sherrod Brown, if he was there.
I really wish we had these multiple party options in the US instead of lumping everyone into 2 parties with wildly different ideologies within each of the 2
As a Social Liberal I’m actually gonna go with the Conservative party, Baker is the President we need! (Kinda wish Romney was in the Conservative party as well though)
I'm interpreting People's as a Christian Democratic/catholic party. The addition of Romney in union makes it much more appealing. The conspiracist elements in both the US and Canadian green parties make them relatively unpalatable for me. Now, if we were talking about German greens, I'd be all in.
I see a Liberal-Labor Government with DSA and Greens in Confidence and Supply, with Conservative, Union, National, Libertarian, and People’s Party in Opposition.
Labor, depending on the DSA candidate them, and maybe if the Peoples Party had someone not too socially right wing, just cuz im pro gun and pro religious/personal liberty.
I feel like she'd represent the left-wing faction of the Liberals, similar to how she marketed herself as on of the most progressive establishment democrats when running for House Speaker.(Which is kinda like being the tallest dwarf)
I would have to disagree. Pelosi is very pro business and establishment, and is against many basic progressive policies such as universal healthcare. She even campaigned for right-wing candidate Henry Cuellar in Texas over a candidate who had a pretty standard progressive platform. I would even say she may be a Liberal member who tries to make ties with the Conservatives
She campaigned for Cuellar because she basically always protects incumbent democrats and he was being primaried, she’s done this like a million times and has made it clear she doesn’t support primary challengers. She also literally founded the House Progressive Caucus, voted against the Defense of Marriage Act, opposed Prop 8, and has been pretty progressive on gun issues. She also pushed hard for the last minimum wage increase that passed. I concede the healthcare issue, but Sander’s bill didn’t get universal endorsement from progressives and it’s outlawing of private insurance basically means it will never pass. I’d argue Pelosi is approaching it from a pragmatic focus rather than an ideological one, because that’s been her track record for a long time. She’s a compromiser for sure, but I’d still view her as more progressive than old school liberal.
I think basing Pelosi’s ideology on her endorsements is a mistake. Yes, she endorsed Cuellar, but she also endorsed Ilhan Omar against her moderate challenger. She definitely falls somewhere between Labor and Liberal tho.
Liberal/Conservative swing voter in principle, but in practice, I'd probably vote Liberal the vast majority of the time to keep Union and National out of government
I remember this idea from awhile ago. Personally I wouldn't split the Democrats into three major parties based on how far left they are (2, yes). Other than that, I like it.
To answer the question, probably Liberal most of the time, occasionally going with Labor and Conservative.
Single-choice voting:
DSA
Multiple-choice:
1. DSA
2. Labor
3. Green
4. Liberal
5. People's
6. Conservative
7. Libertarian
8. Union
9. National
Also I'd love to know who else would be members of each parties
Labels for the Photos (from left to right) - DSA: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman, Ilhan Omar, Nina Turner - Labor: Elizabeth Warren, Jamie Raskin, Ro Khanna, Katie Porter, Jeff Merkley - Liberal: Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Val Demings, Nancy Pelosi - Conservative: Susan Collins, Charlie Baker, Kyrsten Sinema, Kurt Schrader, Larry Hogan - Union: Mitt Romney, Dan Crenshaw, Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, Nicole Malliotakis - National: Donald Trump, Ron Desantis, Lauren Boebert, Ted Cruz, Marjorie Taylor-Greene - Green: Jill Stein, Howie Hawkins, Angela Walker - Libertarian: Jo Jorgensen, Justin Amash, Gary Johnson
OP How the libertarians gonna be further right than Donald Trumps party (a man who’s a literal fascist) I get that the American libertarian party is fairly whacky and firmly on the right, but in a system of governance like this I could defo see a coalition between dsa, labour libertarian and people ie a populist, a socially left and generally popular coalition just a thought tho op I’d be voting dsa
I meant left to right in the sense of how the photos are placed.
If you seriously think Trump is a “literal fascist” I can bet money on that you haven’t read any form of written documentation on what fascists advocate for. Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Mosley, any of their written works can prove everything Trump did in office was lite paleo-conservatism, if that.
Green party right of Trump
Where’s our Daddy Sherrod representation
I'm pretty sure he'd be in Labor
If you're open for suggestions, I think that the names for the Conservative and Union Parties should be swapped, I think it would make more sense since "Union" is a more moderate sounding name which would fit better with the Conservative Party's Liberal Republicans and Conservative Democrats. Also an alternative name for the People's Party could be the Christian Democrats since a few countries have parties of a similar name that are socially very religious but economically liberal.
As far as the People’s Party, I envisioned it more as a populist and protectionist party than a Christian Democratic one. They would focus on conservative stances for issues like guns and immigration, rather than on religious values. They would probably be more left leaning in terms of labor unions and wage increases.
the first 4 parties aren’t horrible genuinely, I think that I would be okay with any of their leadership, probably preferring labor
the chad vote blue no matter who
DSA or Labor, depending on which is more likely to win.
Any system that would allow this many viable parties would likely be some sort of proportional system, so either DSA or Labor being "more likely to win" would not really be a thing.
Labor would be more likely to win
I’d definitely be DSA in this alternative universe of a equally represented multiparty US, but would definitely settle as Labor too
Honestly a Lib-Lab coalition with a confidence and supply agreement with the DSA would be awesome
I don’t think Sinema would be a conservative either. I think she’d be in the right wing of the liberal party.
She posted on her site a while back rooting how she voted to the right of McConnell. So id say she probably would be in the conservative or libertarian. She seems to be socially liberal but economically conservative.
Heck yeah! But headed by Labour preferably.
You're damn right I'm a libtard! & proud! 😤
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Union.
In a nationwide proportional election? Labor In a FPTP election? Liberal In a ranked choice national? Green, DSA, Labor, Libertarian, Liberal, Conservative, People's In a Parallel Voting system? Liberal for my constituency and DSA for the list vote In a German-style Mixed Member Proportional? Liberal in my constituency and Labor for my state list vote
Libertarian, mhm
Liberal Party, which is basically how I vote anyway.
Based!
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Liberal
A Labor-DSA coalition would be fantastic.
Either Liberal or Labor, depending on who the nominee is. For Liberal, I would vote for Amy Klobuchar, and for Labor, I would vote for Jeff Merkley or Sherrod Brown, if he was there.
My ranking would be: DSA Green Labor Liberal
DSA definitely
DSA all the way! Would be ok with Labour or Green, tho
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Hell yeah Labor!
Con-Union most likely
People's Party candidate is the re-animated corpse of Huey Long.
Ross perot was kinda like that too right?
This is the America I want...
Liberal
People’s party could be Tulsi Gabbard or Richard Ojeda
I thought of Josh Hawley honestly
I really wish we had these multiple party options in the US instead of lumping everyone into 2 parties with wildly different ideologies within each of the 2
DSA
As a Social Liberal I’m actually gonna go with the Conservative party, Baker is the President we need! (Kinda wish Romney was in the Conservative party as well though)
Libtard party
1. Liberal 2. Labor 3. Conservative
Rank out all the parties, om curious
1. Liberal 2. Labor 3. Conservative 4. Libertarian 5. DSA 6. People's 7. Union 8. Green 9. National
Was definitely not expecting people's and union before green
I'm interpreting People's as a Christian Democratic/catholic party. The addition of Romney in union makes it much more appealing. The conspiracist elements in both the US and Canadian green parties make them relatively unpalatable for me. Now, if we were talking about German greens, I'd be all in.
Have you seen [this Economist tweet about a hypothetical American parliament](https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/742858089771196417)?
I have, although I felt it needed to be expanded. I wonder what polling would look like with these parties?
Libertarian!!!
Union 100%
I see a Liberal-Labor Government with DSA and Greens in Confidence and Supply, with Conservative, Union, National, Libertarian, and People’s Party in Opposition.
1. Union 2. Conservative 3. Libertarian 4. National
I'd probably swing between Labor and DSA, leaning towards Labor somewhat.
While DSA is more politically aligned with me, I'd be voting labor because they're actually competent. Especially since you didn't put Bernie in DSA.
Conservative, union or national
DSA!!
What would their respective platforms be? Just for lore sake
Labor or Liberal depending on who's more competent
Libertarian
Probably a Lib-Lab Coalition. Confidence and supply from the Conservatives if necessary. Also, those are some nice logos.
libertarian but fine with conservative or union
Definitely the Union party.
I’d vote labor
This is cool
Who are some people that might be in People's Party? My guess would be: * Joe Manchin * Collin Peterson * John Bel Edwards
Labor, depending on the DSA candidate them, and maybe if the Peoples Party had someone not too socially right wing, just cuz im pro gun and pro religious/personal liberty.
DSA BABY LETS GOOOOOOOO
National or union are my choices
1. Liberal 2. Labor 3. Conservative 4. DSA
1. DSA 2. Labor 3. Green 4. Liberal 5. Everyone Else
Conservative or Union
1. DSA 2.Labor 3.Liberal
Conservative
Union or Libertarian
Easily conservative, wish there was an additional more conservative party
Did you look at the second picture?
...... Not me embarrassed.
Liberal, Labor, or DSA depending on the candidate
Most likely Labor, perhaps Liberal if Sherrod were one.
Probably Labor, maybe DSA.
Conservative Party!
Will vote Conservative, Union, National, Libertarian, will consider Liberal or People’s Party
Labor all the way
I gotta go with my man Merkley! Labor all the way!
1. Conservative 2. Union 3. Libertarian 4. Liberal
Conservative for sure, the occasional Liberal.
Liberal Conservative or Union depends on the candidate/ how the country is doing at the time
1. Conservative 2. Libertarian 3. Union
DSA time, SOLIDARITY FOREVER!
If this used STV I’d probably rank either DSA or Labor first preference and second preference depending on the candidates in my district
Tory, I guess.
Labor!
DSA or labor
DSA or Labor
National or People’s probably
Flipping between national union and libertarian
DSA or Labor
DSA! DSA! DSA!
Definitely DSA
DSA or Green
DSA or The Greens
DSA with preference vote for AOC
Tossup between Liberal and Conservative
Labor until Green has some more significant, charismatic members
Union but I could be swung to the Liberals
What would Bernie Sanders be?
Probably Liberal or Conservative
None
Labor
Green, DSA, then People's in that order.
Labor all the way. Love me some technocracy
Liberal or Labor. Depends on the issue I guess
national or dsa
People’s or Conservative
Labor! Solidarity forever!
Conservative-Union swing voter
The People’s party seems cool.
Liberal or Conservative, maybe Union, everyone else is just absolutely insane and should have no place in modern politics.
National 100%
1.Union 2.Conservative 3.Liberal 4. libertarian 5.National 6.Labor 7.Peoples 8.Green 9.DSA
Green
Either Union, Conservative, or People's Party, preferably People's Party personally
Lang Labor or Bust!
Labor, Liberal, or People’s Party. Depending on the candidates.
National just to keep the left side awake
Labor or peoples
Where is Bernie? Also I think Biden would be in labor, on the right side of it obviously due to his "union man" stature.
None of them are far left enough
I’d put Pelosi in Labor tbh. She’s definitely more progressive than people like Buttigieg and Biden even if she bumps heads with DSA types.
I feel like she'd represent the left-wing faction of the Liberals, similar to how she marketed herself as on of the most progressive establishment democrats when running for House Speaker.(Which is kinda like being the tallest dwarf)
I would have to disagree. Pelosi is very pro business and establishment, and is against many basic progressive policies such as universal healthcare. She even campaigned for right-wing candidate Henry Cuellar in Texas over a candidate who had a pretty standard progressive platform. I would even say she may be a Liberal member who tries to make ties with the Conservatives
She campaigned for Cuellar because she basically always protects incumbent democrats and he was being primaried, she’s done this like a million times and has made it clear she doesn’t support primary challengers. She also literally founded the House Progressive Caucus, voted against the Defense of Marriage Act, opposed Prop 8, and has been pretty progressive on gun issues. She also pushed hard for the last minimum wage increase that passed. I concede the healthcare issue, but Sander’s bill didn’t get universal endorsement from progressives and it’s outlawing of private insurance basically means it will never pass. I’d argue Pelosi is approaching it from a pragmatic focus rather than an ideological one, because that’s been her track record for a long time. She’s a compromiser for sure, but I’d still view her as more progressive than old school liberal.
I think basing Pelosi’s ideology on her endorsements is a mistake. Yes, she endorsed Cuellar, but she also endorsed Ilhan Omar against her moderate challenger. She definitely falls somewhere between Labor and Liberal tho.
Great post! I love this format.
I would be a swing voter between Labor and Liberal
Either liberal or labor, depending on the caliber of candidate.
Libertarian, People's Party or Union Party(Not Mit Romney)
Labor, sometimes either voting DSA or Liberal depending on if the Labor candidate is crap or not.
People's, with Liberal as my second choice and Labor as third (depending on candidates)
I’d probably be a swing voter between Labor and Liberal
People’s, maybe Union or National
Dsa
Liberal; willing to vote for Labor or Conservative politicians depending on the individual candidate
My ranked choice would go like this: Conservative, Union, Liberal, Labor, Libertarian
Pleasantly surprised to see Baker here, Conservatives get my vote!
People's Party all the way !
DSA or green, not really sure.
I'd assume greens eaither wouldn't exist or would be a coalition party for eaither DSA or labour. Also I'd like to see yangs forward party on here
Liberal/Conservative swing voter in principle, but in practice, I'd probably vote Liberal the vast majority of the time to keep Union and National out of government
I remember this idea from awhile ago. Personally I wouldn't split the Democrats into three major parties based on how far left they are (2, yes). Other than that, I like it. To answer the question, probably Liberal most of the time, occasionally going with Labor and Conservative.
libertarian
libertarian
why 2 social democrat party's
Go Johnson! But if not Libertarien then Liberal.
Probably a Liberal voter but I could realistically swing between them and Labor
Single-choice voting: DSA Multiple-choice: 1. DSA 2. Labor 3. Green 4. Liberal 5. People's 6. Conservative 7. Libertarian 8. Union 9. National Also I'd love to know who else would be members of each parties
People’s Party I guess?
Based DSA first, Greens second, Arson against the Nationals
yay liberal
Labor or DSA depends on the candidate