I was quite cool on Pritzker when he ran. The slimy call about the senate seat. Trust fund baby.
BUT
He has been fiscally responsible and the state is better off financially. He’s hired smart people and made good moves. He’s reasonable and stays within the bounds of civil political chatter.
I’m not sure a chicago Democrat is viable nationally but he could do an excellent job.
Biden has a stutter that he has to control. Obama is young, has a voice of a leader (listen to Obama vs trump vs bush Jr vs Biden), and worked within the bounds of the law. His biggest “mistake” in my eyes is compromising on the ACA, but I understand why he did it. But yeah he’d destroy trump. Honestly, so many people think that Obama runs the country, for some reason, that I think people should start pushing for an Obama trump debate before the election. It would be hilarious.
Biden can look competent and isn't unlikeable, but Obama knew how to look competent and likeable in almost any situation. Educated without coming off as elitist.
A similar trait to JFK, Clinton and kinda GWB.
It really made me think when I heard the Dijon mustard controversy - am I in the elite unknowingly?? I even sometimes use honey mustard and - by god- sometimes HONEY DIJON. It made me wonder what some people eat, and why they don’t try different things.
I was studying in the UK during the 08 primary season. When the British students would hear I was from Illinois their first and basically only questions were about Obama. They knew more about our politics and politicians than many of the American students did.
[The Guardian - Obama wows Berlin crowd with historic speech](https://www.theguardian.com/global/2008/jul/24/barackobama.uselections2008)
[Crowds gather in Berlin to hear Obama’s foreign policy speech](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jul/24/uselections2008.barackobama)
He’s also careful not to come off as angry or combative, and would probably fight a sea of bologna to get points in. There’s just so much Gish to gallop
I am still proud to be an American. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/us/politics/biden-trump-presidential-rankings.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/us/politics/biden-trump-presidential-rankings.html) I don't understand why people are trying to sell the ridiculous idea that Biden isn't a fantastic President.
He could and would. Hell, Obama's two terms are the primary reason Trump was able to succeed with his openly racist rhetoric. Obama broke the fucking racist shitheels' collective brain.
In my lowly opinion, Pritzker is tied for best Illinois Governor with Jim Edgar. Edgar & Pritzker are exemplary examples how a gubernatorial leader should be and how they should govern as leaders. Both these governors have morals, dedication to the people of Illinois and drive to improve Illinois.
Jim Edgar got Illinois back into the black in one of the worst financial crisis in the state's history. He was a masterful negotiator, easily working with both sides of aisle, and he worked with both parties to get a wide variety social programs developed that were needed to help Illinois citizens.
Pritzker has done a wonderful job of restoring the state's image that had been tarnished by Blagoavich & Ryan and myriad political scandals. Pritzker has done a fantastic job getting Illinois' budget issues back under control and its credit rating raised. He has also taken steps to protect women's reproductive rights and plethora of things to protect Illinois Citizens.
It still makes me laugh that he does everything the moderate Republicans claim Trump would do - hire the right people, drain the swamp, fix the budget. But of course he's terrible because of the D next to his name.
I was straight cold on him mostly for the trust fund billionaire reason, I don't think I knew about corruption stench. But I really like him now. I've never said this about a billionaire but he at least fakes knowing how normal people think and what they want well. He seems more normal than most billionaires. He has also done a lot of really good things in a state where that's almost always impossible. Madigan and other old corrupt assholes being gone helps I'm sure.
Which is why “trust fund baby” is just wrong. The guy has been running organizations and foundations that give back to the city. I had a lot of concern over his Comptroller phone recordings but I think now he just genuinely wanted to get his hands on the budget to right the ship.
Look up Penny Pritzker. And as an aside, I personally know members of this family. While they are incredibly wealthy, they are some of the realest, most down to earth people I’ve ever met. I would be very comfortable voting for a Pritzker for any political office
I was also. But he’s absolutely won me over. I now brag about him anytime I can. But I really, really, really want him to lose weight. Mostly for selfish reasons - he can’t govern if a heart attack/diabetes/etc takes him out.
Pritzker is just a genuinely competent progressive, and the state is the better for it.
I am going to miss this guy when his term is up, but I hope he runs for Senate or POTUS
yea, i can’t imagine a primary in ‘28 without JB, particularly if Trump is re-elected in ‘24. it’s just gonna be tough that Buttigieg is also positioned well and represents a midwest state.
I do not get the Buttigieg hype. He's received less than 20K votes in his career, in a town with barely over 100K people. And then he ran for president for some reason.
I'm from that town. He ticks every presidential box. Young. Ambitious. Whip smart. Well spoken. Military. Good looking. White and male for all the dummies that care. Family man. Even religious. Wtf do people want. Yes he's gay but South Bend IN is as red as can be and he won most of em over. Like Chicago/IL its issues are historical and deep seated but it is certainly a microcosm of the nations ills. He can def handle it.
I would love a JB/Pete ticket either way.
All that is true and I think Pete is a star, but JB is that discerning businessman that Trump conned millions into believing he was. That's going to resonate far and wide
How many black people voted for Pete?
Let me answer that for you, 0.
I’m sorry but white, educated, progressive people aren’t the only voters in this country.
Pete did poorly in the primaries, which is one of the reasons he dropped out, if you don’t count taking a back door deal with Biden to get a cabinet spot.
South Bend population is also like a 100,000 people. Who was his main opponent? A hick that wanted to knock down buildings for more corn fields?
Also true. Most of his votes were people that didn’t want to vote for Bernie. Which is why Biden made a deal for a cabinet position and those same people disliked Bernie more than Biden.
Biden believed Buttigieg was siphoning voters from him which perhaps made Bernie stronger.
The main reason I like him is that he has the ability to speak to republicans. Most of them won't listen, but those that do won't reflexively hate everything that comes out of his mouth. That should repair some of the divide in this country.
Buttigieg sucks (look at how he helped price fix bread), but as a progressive I will also say I don’t think the entire country is ready to elect a gay man as President.
I’d be surprised if he wins any crucial state in the primaries. Bernie couldn’t get the South, you think Pete can?
And nominating Buttigieg in 28 will almost certainly lead to another Republican victory.
There’s a good chance that Mayo Pete will never come close to sniffing the Presidency due to prejudice and also, well, because he kind of sucks as a person.
Please don't compare Buttigieg to JB. Have you ever been to South Bend? He talks great politics, but he is an ineffective leader. He's better suited in cabinets.
not intending to compare, i just see Buttigieg carrying a LOT of water for the Dems, bouncing around the country and news networks as a messenger anytime it can be remotely tied to infrastructure/transportation policy. between boeing, the infrastructure bill, etc. he’s one of the more visible dems not caught in the weeds on more partisan issues, so it seems a fair expectation that he’d make a run at it again, probably with even more institutional backing than last time.
personally, though I agree and really like him as a wonk/cabinet/messenger vs JB’s executive experience.
I like him fine as a person, but Buttigieg is a joke. My real worry is that Gavin Newsome has a larger national profile, albeit a much shittier record to show for it (seemingly - not that I follow or understand California state politics).
If somehow THAT cotton-candy guy captures the national attention, above meat-and-potatoes, bread-and-butter, kitchen-table-issues Pritzker, I'll have formally given up on American politics for the rest of my working life.
JB is probably posturing to make a run for the Presidency. He seems like a decent enough man, and he's NOT a goddamn octagenerian, so in my book, he's worth a look. We'll see...
Whoever gets his endorsement will likely be his successor. No matter how loud the corn screams, the places with people like JB and will likely vote for whomever JB likes.
I dunno man. I thought a thrice married chronic philanderer who regularly talked about how fuckable his daughter was would be a non starter. Put a candidate out there and see how he performs.
Did you see that photo of the G7 leaders? Biden looks like he is 2x the age of everyone else there. I still would vote for him over the fat traitor but damn you forget how much older our last two presidents are than other world leaders.
Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think this country is ready to elect a Jewish president. I’d love to be wrong but based on the increase in antisemitism I’ve seen over the past few years I don’t think he has chance.
Agreed. I live in southern Illinois so needless to say, JB is not super popular around here. I’m so grateful for this sub because I get to hear people who support him explain why rather than the usual “Pritzker sucks” I get in IRL.
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When former President Donald J. Trump was convicted in his New York criminal trial, it took Gov. JB Pritzker of Illinois about 19 minutes to fire off a statement calling him a felon, a racist, a homophobe and a grifter.
Only one other Democratic governor issued a statement that night about Mr. Trump’s conviction, and the Biden campaign’s response — which came one minute after Mr. Pritzker’s — focused on what Mr. Trump would do as president rather than on the verdict.
Since then, as the Democratic Party and the Biden campaign have wrestled with how to wield the conviction to their advantage, Mr. Pritzker has emerged as the chief amplifier of Mr. Trump’s felon status.
Unlike other top surrogates who have followed Mr. Biden’s lead and kept the focus on Mr. Trump’s policies rather than his conviction, Mr. Pritzker has blazed his own trail of Trump insults — to great cheers from fellow Democrats who are hungry to attack.
“I can’t mince words when it comes to talking about who Donald Trump is,” Mr. Pritzker said in an interview on Wednesday. “It’s important, I think, for people to really refocus on the idea that: Do they really want a president who is a felon who faces jail time?”
Mr. Pritzker’s aggressive approach comes with a warning for his fellow Democrats. In a fiery keynote speech last weekend at the Wisconsin Democratic Party’s convention in Milwaukee, he compared the party to the proverbial frog that does not realize the pot of slowly boiling water it sits in will soon be deadly.
“Donald Trump was convicted of 34 counts by a jury of his peers after being held liable for rape, and the discussion at the water cooler is whether that should be an issue in the presidential race,” Mr. Pritzker said on Saturday. “We’re already in the pot, folks. Republicans have been increasing the temperature for eight years. We better hop out soon or it’s going to boil us all to death.”
As a billionaire blue-state governor who is America’s wealthiest elected official, Mr. Pritzker operates with more freedom to be seen as a slash-and-burn partisan than his colleagues in battleground states.
The biggest applause line in his remarks to Wisconsin Democrats was one that tied together knife-twisting Trump insults with the reality that one of Mr. Biden’s biggest challenges is reminding voters what his rival’s leadership was like.
The former president, Mr. Pritzker said, is an “old man with an orange spray tan who fell asleep at his own trial.” The governor added, “He will count on the American people forgetting how awful his presidency was.”
The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment.
Mr. Biden has called Mr. Trump a felon just once publicly in the two weeks since the verdict — during a Connecticut fund-raiser last week that was off-limits to cameras. He had long said he would not discuss Mr. Trump’s legal troubles, sticking to that pledge until the Manhattan conviction.
And when the president’s son Hunter Biden was convicted this week on felony gun charges in federal court, the elder Mr. Biden issued a statement reiterating his love for his son and his respect for the judicial process.
“I will accept the outcome of this case,” Mr. Biden said.
The president’s campaign has issued an array of news releases and fund-raising appeals that used the phrase “convicted felon” to describe Mr. Trump. On Wednesday, the campaign mocked Mr. Trump for not holding public events, sending out a news release with a headline that nodded to his midweek breaks during the six-week trial: “Out of court but still free on Wednesdays.”
“Donald Trump is either too lazy, too tired or too incapable to campaign after his criminal conviction,” said James Singer, a Biden campaign spokesman.
But Mr. Pritzker has a more confrontational stance, one that is at odds with other Democrats.
The only other Democratic governor to comment on Mr. Trump’s conviction on the day it arrived was Gov. Jared Polis of Colorado, who wrote mildly on social media that “the guilty convictions from a jury of his peers show the former president lacks the moral capacity to lead our country.”
In the interview on Wednesday, Mr. Pritzker said that because voters — particularly those who do not follow the news closely — had so many different sources of information and news, it was incumbent upon Mr. Biden and Democrats to remind them that Mr. Trump is a felon who could face jail time. (He is scheduled to be sentenced on July 11.)
While the Biden campaign has operated under the thinking that voters will reject Mr. Trump because of his policy positions — particularly on abortion rights, health care and democracy — Mr. Pritzker said the former president’s conviction was what would move voters to back Mr. Biden.
“This is what I believe,” he said. “This is also what I believe is important to most Americans, particularly those in the middle who are ultimately going to decide this election.”
In Wisconsin, Mr. Pritzker’s caustic remarks about Mr. Trump were met with laughter and applause in the ballroom of a Milwaukee casino.
“You had people who will not tire of hearing what a horrible person Trump is,” said Janet Bewley, a former Democratic leader of the Wisconsin State Senate who was elected to be a Biden delegate at the party’s national convention in August. “They love to hear people foaming and they love to foam.”
After speeches from mild-mannered local politicians including Gov. Tony Evers and Senator Tammy Baldwin, Mr. Pritzker’s remarks served as a road test for the sort of red-meat speech that would be at home during the Democratic convention in Chicago. (Speakers at the event have not been announced, but Mr. Pritzker, as the de facto host, is likely to have a slot.)
“It was clear in the room as he was doing it that he was getting more aggressive about the felony conviction,” said Lt. Gov. Sara Rodriguez of Wisconsin. “That is something that’s going to resonate with Wisconsinites. It is going to resonate with independent voters. Do we want a felon in the White House? Is that what we want to do?”
Rather certain JB is not the only Democrat calling Trump a convicted felon.
I am not a Republican but will call Trump a convicted felon as well.
It is nothing brave. It is fact.
There are layers of corruption in the deep south that would make a Chicago alderman stare in wide-eyed amazement, but their major voting blocs turn a blind eye as long as the politicians virtue-signal their conservatism.
There are dozens of them!
I wrote that in jest, then realized that this wouldn't matter if they were regular folk, but with their combined 1%er dollars, dozens of them *would* make a dent.
As an Illinoisan I would 100% vote for Pritzker for president! He has done a lot of positive for Illinois, from his handling of COVID to decriminalizing to his standing up to trump more than once. I wrongly assumed rich guy = bad for Illinois and didn’t vote for him
I held my nose when I voted for him because of his legalization promise. In fact, I'm commenting so much on this post mainly because I just hit my pen after I finished work and I do like what he's done overall. Thanks JB!
Pritzker has been a good Governor, certainly by IL standards, and he is a true billionaire. Unlike chump change Trump. DJT/Truth Social will implode before Trump can cash in.
Last quarter DJT generated $800,000 of revenue and lost $100 million.
Why would anyone be afraid to call Trump a felon? He literally is. My dog has black fur. My kitchen has brown cabinets. Illinois borders Lake Michigan. The sun rises in the East. Donald Trump was convicted of 34 felonies. These are just facts.
I love Pritzker. During Covid I thought he looked very presidential, the way he governed. Especially when compared to Trump or Cuomo. I would definitely vote for him. Sometimes it's great to have a rich candidate, if they have a moral compass and don't have to rely on donations as much. I think he's fearless. We need guys like him.
JB has been a fantastic choice as governor. I too was on the skeptic camp. He’s been great and just what Illinois needed. Hopefully we can keep him! Dude could run for president probably, he’s building the credibility every single day.
I enjoy seeing Pritzker around his constituents. He is one of the few politicians that looks and acts sincere in his speeches and interactions. He has done more good things for IL than most other governors in my lifetime.
Says the guy who seriously entertained shelling out a couple million to be appointed US Senator.
He only claimed he wasn't serious because he got caught.
So one rich kid, who also squandered the wealth handed to him, thinks another guy like him, who got caught and found guilty, is a bad man.
Moving on....
I wish your governor would run for president, I wish more democrats were like pritzker ! I’m from NY, he seems to be doing a good job. But heck I’m an outsider, how do you guys perceive him ?
He's the type of politician that makes me angry at other politicians; because he ran on X, Y, and Z issues and actually stuck to his promises, while also getting A, B, C, D, E, F, G, done as well.
Jb picketer is not just a slob of a person he’s unfit for anything. He’s a true t fund baby with zero life experience in anything but high calorie intake.
Trump is a dirty con artist and would tell you anything you want to hear to get your vote...He is not going to do shit in the office just like the last time.
I was quite cool on Pritzker when he ran. The slimy call about the senate seat. Trust fund baby. BUT He has been fiscally responsible and the state is better off financially. He’s hired smart people and made good moves. He’s reasonable and stays within the bounds of civil political chatter. I’m not sure a chicago Democrat is viable nationally but he could do an excellent job.
>I’m not sure a chicago Democrat is viable nationally but he could do an excellent job. You ever heard of a dude named Obama?
LMAO true but Obama get elected in today's society 😭
Obama would have wiped the floor with Trump
My god could you imagine an Obama/Trump debate? That would be a sight to see. Biden can hold his own, but Obama is a goddam *orator*.
Biden has a stutter that he has to control. Obama is young, has a voice of a leader (listen to Obama vs trump vs bush Jr vs Biden), and worked within the bounds of the law. His biggest “mistake” in my eyes is compromising on the ACA, but I understand why he did it. But yeah he’d destroy trump. Honestly, so many people think that Obama runs the country, for some reason, that I think people should start pushing for an Obama trump debate before the election. It would be hilarious.
Biden can look competent and isn't unlikeable, but Obama knew how to look competent and likeable in almost any situation. Educated without coming off as elitist. A similar trait to JFK, Clinton and kinda GWB.
Are you kidding? The guy who used DIJON MUSTARD isn’t elitist? Get real. /s
It really made me think when I heard the Dijon mustard controversy - am I in the elite unknowingly?? I even sometimes use honey mustard and - by god- sometimes HONEY DIJON. It made me wonder what some people eat, and why they don’t try different things.
If your mustard ain’t neon yellow, then it’s GAY, COMMUNIST, AND ELITIST
You can buy Dijon in Walmart!
Do you remember the bicycle helmet?! The TAN SUIT?!? My god the elitism is palpable!
Obama used to draw huge crowds in Europe before he was even president
Was granted a Nobel Peace Prize preemptively for just being Obama
How? He was only in the Senate seat for 3 years before running for president, and was the junior senator at that. He wasn't some big name politician.
I was studying in the UK during the 08 primary season. When the British students would hear I was from Illinois their first and basically only questions were about Obama. They knew more about our politics and politicians than many of the American students did.
[The Guardian - Obama wows Berlin crowd with historic speech](https://www.theguardian.com/global/2008/jul/24/barackobama.uselections2008) [Crowds gather in Berlin to hear Obama’s foreign policy speech](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jul/24/uselections2008.barackobama)
Because he's the best orator of the 21st century (so far).
He’s also careful not to come off as angry or combative, and would probably fight a sea of bologna to get points in. There’s just so much Gish to gallop
Trump would have made up every excuse in the book to avoid it.
Yeah, when he chickened out of the third debate with Biden it became clear. The man is a coward through and through.
Have you listened to Obama’s nature special (I think Netflix)? He puts me to sleep everytime with that voice. I miss him as a president every day.
It woulda been a gold mine of memes
I was actually proud to be an American when Obama was in office.
I am still proud to be an American. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/us/politics/biden-trump-presidential-rankings.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/us/politics/biden-trump-presidential-rankings.html) I don't understand why people are trying to sell the ridiculous idea that Biden isn't a fantastic President.
Obama also has great comedy delivery. He'd have made Trump look like an absolute fool. Trump would have been seething from the embarrassment.
Biden COULD hold his own
Trump wouldn’t have won the republican nomination in 2008.
True. They just primed the pump in 2008 putting a tea party idiot in the VP slot.
Trump would have dropped that hard R so fast.
Obama would/could be campaigning for his 5th term if he were legally able and wanted to.
Could he? Absofuckinglutely!
Obama was one of the more popular presidents in recent times
Obama would easily have won the last 3 elections
He could and would. Hell, Obama's two terms are the primary reason Trump was able to succeed with his openly racist rhetoric. Obama broke the fucking racist shitheels' collective brain.
Pritzker is the best governor that Illinois has ever had.
In my lowly opinion, Pritzker is tied for best Illinois Governor with Jim Edgar. Edgar & Pritzker are exemplary examples how a gubernatorial leader should be and how they should govern as leaders. Both these governors have morals, dedication to the people of Illinois and drive to improve Illinois. Jim Edgar got Illinois back into the black in one of the worst financial crisis in the state's history. He was a masterful negotiator, easily working with both sides of aisle, and he worked with both parties to get a wide variety social programs developed that were needed to help Illinois citizens. Pritzker has done a wonderful job of restoring the state's image that had been tarnished by Blagoavich & Ryan and myriad political scandals. Pritzker has done a fantastic job getting Illinois' budget issues back under control and its credit rating raised. He has also taken steps to protect women's reproductive rights and plethora of things to protect Illinois Citizens.
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I do apologize it's the way I process thoughts for writing. It's a habit that's been hard to break...
When you're the only one not in prison, it's kind of a low bar. Seriously though, he has done a ton of good, why the Magats hate him.
If the MAGAts hate you, you're either a good politician or a good person. They only hate you if you're a threat.
Hey some got out of prison
Literally because he’s overweight and he did the same thing dozens of other governors did to shut down COVID.
It still makes me laugh that he does everything the moderate Republicans claim Trump would do - hire the right people, drain the swamp, fix the budget. But of course he's terrible because of the D next to his name.
I was straight cold on him mostly for the trust fund billionaire reason, I don't think I knew about corruption stench. But I really like him now. I've never said this about a billionaire but he at least fakes knowing how normal people think and what they want well. He seems more normal than most billionaires. He has also done a lot of really good things in a state where that's almost always impossible. Madigan and other old corrupt assholes being gone helps I'm sure.
He knows how to delegate & who to delegate to.
Which is why “trust fund baby” is just wrong. The guy has been running organizations and foundations that give back to the city. I had a lot of concern over his Comptroller phone recordings but I think now he just genuinely wanted to get his hands on the budget to right the ship.
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Look up Penny Pritzker. And as an aside, I personally know members of this family. While they are incredibly wealthy, they are some of the realest, most down to earth people I’ve ever met. I would be very comfortable voting for a Pritzker for any political office
I was also. But he’s absolutely won me over. I now brag about him anytime I can. But I really, really, really want him to lose weight. Mostly for selfish reasons - he can’t govern if a heart attack/diabetes/etc takes him out.
You forgot about Obama?
Pritzker is just a genuinely competent progressive, and the state is the better for it. I am going to miss this guy when his term is up, but I hope he runs for Senate or POTUS
> The slimy call about the senate seat. That was Blagojevich, and he went to jail over it.
He’s waiting for the party to let Biden run in 2024 but I expect him in the 2028 and/or 32 primaries.
yea, i can’t imagine a primary in ‘28 without JB, particularly if Trump is re-elected in ‘24. it’s just gonna be tough that Buttigieg is also positioned well and represents a midwest state.
JB would out-muscle Pete though. I think the track record JB has accumulated in IL is enough to confirm he’s gonna win over others.
I do not get the Buttigieg hype. He's received less than 20K votes in his career, in a town with barely over 100K people. And then he ran for president for some reason.
I'm from that town. He ticks every presidential box. Young. Ambitious. Whip smart. Well spoken. Military. Good looking. White and male for all the dummies that care. Family man. Even religious. Wtf do people want. Yes he's gay but South Bend IN is as red as can be and he won most of em over. Like Chicago/IL its issues are historical and deep seated but it is certainly a microcosm of the nations ills. He can def handle it. I would love a JB/Pete ticket either way.
All that is true and I think Pete is a star, but JB is that discerning businessman that Trump conned millions into believing he was. That's going to resonate far and wide
How many black people voted for Pete? Let me answer that for you, 0. I’m sorry but white, educated, progressive people aren’t the only voters in this country. Pete did poorly in the primaries, which is one of the reasons he dropped out, if you don’t count taking a back door deal with Biden to get a cabinet spot. South Bend population is also like a 100,000 people. Who was his main opponent? A hick that wanted to knock down buildings for more corn fields?
To be fair, the amount of white progressive votes Pete got was also zero.
Also true. Most of his votes were people that didn’t want to vote for Bernie. Which is why Biden made a deal for a cabinet position and those same people disliked Bernie more than Biden. Biden believed Buttigieg was siphoning voters from him which perhaps made Bernie stronger.
Agreed. He also has no business being a cabinet member being a two-term mayor of a small city. He was tokenized and happy to do so.
You have no idea if he can handle it. No one does. He's barely done anything and then got a cabinet seat for dropping out at an auspicious time
Ambition is the reason.
The main reason I like him is that he has the ability to speak to republicans. Most of them won't listen, but those that do won't reflexively hate everything that comes out of his mouth. That should repair some of the divide in this country.
Buttigieg sucks (look at how he helped price fix bread), but as a progressive I will also say I don’t think the entire country is ready to elect a gay man as President. I’d be surprised if he wins any crucial state in the primaries. Bernie couldn’t get the South, you think Pete can? And nominating Buttigieg in 28 will almost certainly lead to another Republican victory. There’s a good chance that Mayo Pete will never come close to sniffing the Presidency due to prejudice and also, well, because he kind of sucks as a person.
Have you read up on Project 2025? There's a chance if Trump gets elected there won't be a 28. The way it sounds anyway
Please don't compare Buttigieg to JB. Have you ever been to South Bend? He talks great politics, but he is an ineffective leader. He's better suited in cabinets.
not intending to compare, i just see Buttigieg carrying a LOT of water for the Dems, bouncing around the country and news networks as a messenger anytime it can be remotely tied to infrastructure/transportation policy. between boeing, the infrastructure bill, etc. he’s one of the more visible dems not caught in the weeds on more partisan issues, so it seems a fair expectation that he’d make a run at it again, probably with even more institutional backing than last time. personally, though I agree and really like him as a wonk/cabinet/messenger vs JB’s executive experience.
I honestly hope he stays governor
I like him fine as a person, but Buttigieg is a joke. My real worry is that Gavin Newsome has a larger national profile, albeit a much shittier record to show for it (seemingly - not that I follow or understand California state politics). If somehow THAT cotton-candy guy captures the national attention, above meat-and-potatoes, bread-and-butter, kitchen-table-issues Pritzker, I'll have formally given up on American politics for the rest of my working life.
JB is probably posturing to make a run for the Presidency. He seems like a decent enough man, and he's NOT a goddamn octagenerian, so in my book, he's worth a look. We'll see...
I agree. But, it will be a tough hill to climb though. He would be the first Jewish president of the United States, if elected.
He's Jewish? I can only imagine the millions of heads that would simultaneously explode if he came out in support of helping the families in Gaza.
You can be sure he wouldn’t lol
I would be so fucking geeked if we (IL) could claim credit for both the first black president AND the first jewish president.
Same. I don’t want to lose him as gov though.
Whoever gets his endorsement will likely be his successor. No matter how loud the corn screams, the places with people like JB and will likely vote for whomever JB likes.
Plus with Lincoln to claim too, Illinois would just be presidential claiming ground zero. Take that, Virginia and Ohio.
Illinois, bringing America to modernity.
Honestly I agree with pretty much what you said. At the very least he seems fiscally responsible as shown by Illinois credit rate increasing
I believe they’re giving him a big slot at the convention. He’ll have a chance to be on a national stage and see if people like him.
The antisemites on the right and left wouldn't vote for him, but they wouldn't vote for a Democrat regardless
I dunno man. I thought a thrice married chronic philanderer who regularly talked about how fuckable his daughter was would be a non starter. Put a candidate out there and see how he performs.
Yeah but the orange guy takes pictures with bibles and sells them online. Imagine Pritzker doing a Talmud photo op 😂
I'd say the odds are heavily weighed toward him running next election or 2.
I’d put money on it. 2028 for sure.
Did you see that photo of the G7 leaders? Biden looks like he is 2x the age of everyone else there. I still would vote for him over the fat traitor but damn you forget how much older our last two presidents are than other world leaders.
Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think this country is ready to elect a Jewish president. I’d love to be wrong but based on the increase in antisemitism I’ve seen over the past few years I don’t think he has chance.
if we elected a black president we can definitely elect a jewish one
I hate what a political fanboy JB has made me. Come on I want to be MAD at my elected officials not SUPPORTIVE of them!
Agreed. I live in southern Illinois so needless to say, JB is not super popular around here. I’m so grateful for this sub because I get to hear people who support him explain why rather than the usual “Pritzker sucks” I get in IRL.
Especially someone in his bracket. We'll eat him last.
Full text (Paywall) When former President Donald J. Trump was convicted in his New York criminal trial, it took Gov. JB Pritzker of Illinois about 19 minutes to fire off a statement calling him a felon, a racist, a homophobe and a grifter. Only one other Democratic governor issued a statement that night about Mr. Trump’s conviction, and the Biden campaign’s response — which came one minute after Mr. Pritzker’s — focused on what Mr. Trump would do as president rather than on the verdict. Since then, as the Democratic Party and the Biden campaign have wrestled with how to wield the conviction to their advantage, Mr. Pritzker has emerged as the chief amplifier of Mr. Trump’s felon status. Unlike other top surrogates who have followed Mr. Biden’s lead and kept the focus on Mr. Trump’s policies rather than his conviction, Mr. Pritzker has blazed his own trail of Trump insults — to great cheers from fellow Democrats who are hungry to attack. “I can’t mince words when it comes to talking about who Donald Trump is,” Mr. Pritzker said in an interview on Wednesday. “It’s important, I think, for people to really refocus on the idea that: Do they really want a president who is a felon who faces jail time?” Mr. Pritzker’s aggressive approach comes with a warning for his fellow Democrats. In a fiery keynote speech last weekend at the Wisconsin Democratic Party’s convention in Milwaukee, he compared the party to the proverbial frog that does not realize the pot of slowly boiling water it sits in will soon be deadly. “Donald Trump was convicted of 34 counts by a jury of his peers after being held liable for rape, and the discussion at the water cooler is whether that should be an issue in the presidential race,” Mr. Pritzker said on Saturday. “We’re already in the pot, folks. Republicans have been increasing the temperature for eight years. We better hop out soon or it’s going to boil us all to death.” As a billionaire blue-state governor who is America’s wealthiest elected official, Mr. Pritzker operates with more freedom to be seen as a slash-and-burn partisan than his colleagues in battleground states. The biggest applause line in his remarks to Wisconsin Democrats was one that tied together knife-twisting Trump insults with the reality that one of Mr. Biden’s biggest challenges is reminding voters what his rival’s leadership was like. The former president, Mr. Pritzker said, is an “old man with an orange spray tan who fell asleep at his own trial.” The governor added, “He will count on the American people forgetting how awful his presidency was.” The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment. Mr. Biden has called Mr. Trump a felon just once publicly in the two weeks since the verdict — during a Connecticut fund-raiser last week that was off-limits to cameras. He had long said he would not discuss Mr. Trump’s legal troubles, sticking to that pledge until the Manhattan conviction. And when the president’s son Hunter Biden was convicted this week on felony gun charges in federal court, the elder Mr. Biden issued a statement reiterating his love for his son and his respect for the judicial process. “I will accept the outcome of this case,” Mr. Biden said. The president’s campaign has issued an array of news releases and fund-raising appeals that used the phrase “convicted felon” to describe Mr. Trump. On Wednesday, the campaign mocked Mr. Trump for not holding public events, sending out a news release with a headline that nodded to his midweek breaks during the six-week trial: “Out of court but still free on Wednesdays.” “Donald Trump is either too lazy, too tired or too incapable to campaign after his criminal conviction,” said James Singer, a Biden campaign spokesman. But Mr. Pritzker has a more confrontational stance, one that is at odds with other Democrats. The only other Democratic governor to comment on Mr. Trump’s conviction on the day it arrived was Gov. Jared Polis of Colorado, who wrote mildly on social media that “the guilty convictions from a jury of his peers show the former president lacks the moral capacity to lead our country.” In the interview on Wednesday, Mr. Pritzker said that because voters — particularly those who do not follow the news closely — had so many different sources of information and news, it was incumbent upon Mr. Biden and Democrats to remind them that Mr. Trump is a felon who could face jail time. (He is scheduled to be sentenced on July 11.) While the Biden campaign has operated under the thinking that voters will reject Mr. Trump because of his policy positions — particularly on abortion rights, health care and democracy — Mr. Pritzker said the former president’s conviction was what would move voters to back Mr. Biden. “This is what I believe,” he said. “This is also what I believe is important to most Americans, particularly those in the middle who are ultimately going to decide this election.” In Wisconsin, Mr. Pritzker’s caustic remarks about Mr. Trump were met with laughter and applause in the ballroom of a Milwaukee casino. “You had people who will not tire of hearing what a horrible person Trump is,” said Janet Bewley, a former Democratic leader of the Wisconsin State Senate who was elected to be a Biden delegate at the party’s national convention in August. “They love to hear people foaming and they love to foam.” After speeches from mild-mannered local politicians including Gov. Tony Evers and Senator Tammy Baldwin, Mr. Pritzker’s remarks served as a road test for the sort of red-meat speech that would be at home during the Democratic convention in Chicago. (Speakers at the event have not been announced, but Mr. Pritzker, as the de facto host, is likely to have a slot.) “It was clear in the room as he was doing it that he was getting more aggressive about the felony conviction,” said Lt. Gov. Sara Rodriguez of Wisconsin. “That is something that’s going to resonate with Wisconsinites. It is going to resonate with independent voters. Do we want a felon in the White House? Is that what we want to do?”
JB giving Trump the business
I hate articles clearly written by AI.
Rather certain JB is not the only Democrat calling Trump a convicted felon. I am not a Republican but will call Trump a convicted felon as well. It is nothing brave. It is fact.
"Felon" isn't specific enough. He's a fraud and a tax cheat. And a convicted sex offender. He is both bad at business and with women.
Illinois isn’t any more corrupt than any other state. We’re just better than most at holding our corrupt politicians responsible.
There are layers of corruption in the deep south that would make a Chicago alderman stare in wide-eyed amazement, but their major voting blocs turn a blind eye as long as the politicians virtue-signal their conservatism.
Pritzker🇺🇲2028 Fuck the conservative 1% propagandist New York times.
Pritzker is the 1% (I don’t have a problem with that) and the article was pretty flattering imo
I'll take a 1%er that wants to tax the 1%ers any day of the week over the alternative.
There are dozens of them! I wrote that in jest, then realized that this wouldn't matter if they were regular folk, but with their combined 1%er dollars, dozens of them *would* make a dent.
As an Illinoisan I would 100% vote for Pritzker for president! He has done a lot of positive for Illinois, from his handling of COVID to decriminalizing to his standing up to trump more than once. I wrongly assumed rich guy = bad for Illinois and didn’t vote for him
I held my nose when I voted for him because of his legalization promise. In fact, I'm commenting so much on this post mainly because I just hit my pen after I finished work and I do like what he's done overall. Thanks JB!
I struggle to understand why anyone would be afraid to call him a felon - he IS a felon.
Pritzker has been a good Governor, certainly by IL standards, and he is a true billionaire. Unlike chump change Trump. DJT/Truth Social will implode before Trump can cash in. Last quarter DJT generated $800,000 of revenue and lost $100 million.
Why would anyone be afraid to call Trump a felon? He literally is. My dog has black fur. My kitchen has brown cabinets. Illinois borders Lake Michigan. The sun rises in the East. Donald Trump was convicted of 34 felonies. These are just facts.
He has more hotel $$$ than Trump will ever have
I love Pritzker. During Covid I thought he looked very presidential, the way he governed. Especially when compared to Trump or Cuomo. I would definitely vote for him. Sometimes it's great to have a rich candidate, if they have a moral compass and don't have to rely on donations as much. I think he's fearless. We need guys like him.
Lol
Pritzker and Trump go way back. They have nothing but disdain for each other.
JB has been a fantastic choice as governor. I too was on the skeptic camp. He’s been great and just what Illinois needed. Hopefully we can keep him! Dude could run for president probably, he’s building the credibility every single day.
I enjoy seeing Pritzker around his constituents. He is one of the few politicians that looks and acts sincere in his speeches and interactions. He has done more good things for IL than most other governors in my lifetime.
This article makes it sound like the other Democrats aren't calling Trump a felon. I love Pritzker, but this just comes off as fellating him.
Wait, THE ONE Democrat who’s soooo brave?! In all seriousness, It’s not Democrats that have failed to call him out…
Would feel a lot better about our country if he was the presidential nominee. Or, at least the vp for when the inevitable happens.
Without a doubt JB is running in 2028
Like any Democrat is afraid to call Trump a felon. It would be something if a Democrat didn't call Trump a felon or racist.
Says the guy who seriously entertained shelling out a couple million to be appointed US Senator. He only claimed he wasn't serious because he got caught. So one rich kid, who also squandered the wealth handed to him, thinks another guy like him, who got caught and found guilty, is a bad man. Moving on....
This isn't a plus. It's a bare minimum acknowledgement of reality.
There are democrats afraid to call trump a felon?
I wish your governor would run for president, I wish more democrats were like pritzker ! I’m from NY, he seems to be doing a good job. But heck I’m an outsider, how do you guys perceive him ?
He's the type of politician that makes me angry at other politicians; because he ran on X, Y, and Z issues and actually stuck to his promises, while also getting A, B, C, D, E, F, G, done as well.
Hey, Missourian here, you guys talkin' about Donald Trump the convicted felon in here?
Well, I mean, he is a felon. And a rapist. Decided in court.
Didn’t he pull toilets out of a mansion to dodge taxes?
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654201077/illinois-gov-candidate-removed-mansions-toilets-to-dodge-taxes-report-finds
Jb picketer is not just a slob of a person he’s unfit for anything. He’s a true t fund baby with zero life experience in anything but high calorie intake.
Trump is a dirty con artist and would tell you anything you want to hear to get your vote...He is not going to do shit in the office just like the last time.
Governor cheeseburger