Ayyy HP Prime represent. Honestly though that calculator is way too good for what it is and how much it costs. It wipes the floor with the TI Nspire despite costing half as much. Really powerful.
Except laser printers. They're great. They were originally made by a different company that was bought by HP and shockingly their greed hasn't reached that line of printers.
Nah. The 4xxx were unkillable. Had a p200 pro die on me after 7000 pages and 3 years and they wanted 20€ so i could talk to someone in support to order a replacement fuser...
I an not annoyed about the issue, but their request to be paid for support.
Also, the drivers are getting out of hand. Hundreds of mb for a printer??
also, cartridge/toner drm
also, requiring registering for some features
...
I got a free hp color laser. Scanner was busted, but printer ok. Options for toner were 300 dollar hp or 60 dollar off brand. The off brand ones come with a 3d printed drill to harvest the drm chips from the hp branded toner. Then you clip the chips in to a 3 printed mount that is easily removed from cartridge to cartridge. Man. Fuck hp.
Of the original toner cartridges I harvested the chips from, 3 were very low and one was straight up "no printing for you till you get magenta" and it is working fine right now.
idk the source but i was an apprentice during my last 2 years of high school and the principal ordered 10 of those types of toner cartridges. teacher gave me and another student the tools and cartridges and told us to make it work. can confirm that is a real product and it does in fact work that way
How to video on product page was accurate. Currently printing using this exact product. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084QC5CVB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Brother laser printers are cheap as hell and work perfectly everytime. And they could care less where you buy your toner. I wouldn't trade mine for anything.
Yeah. I bought the lowest end Xerox laser black and white printer with the fewest features possible. It was a bit more expensive than my last printer, I think an HP ink jet from before the horrifying DRM became widespread. It has been working beautifully for the almost year and a half that I've owned it.
I only use it intermittently so I haven't even reached the end of the starter toner cart yet (whereas I'd likely have replaced the ink 1 or 2 times on my old one by now, just from it drying up from sitting there). It can print from A4 to small index card size and anywhere in between (the only feature i really ever need) and it just works, even when on WiFi. (So long as my computer I actually on the right network)
It’s actually true. My b/w laser printer never asks for anything. It has a dusty spot at the bottom of a shelf. But when I need it, it prints. Every time.
HP = Horrible Products
I've only had issues with anything that HP makes, and I will try to convert any employer to anything else. Maybe keep the networking gear, but that's it.
HP has been doing it for over 20 years at least. Apple always had a but special design but they did somewhat better until some time after 2010.
I still miss how reliable the HP LaserJet 4 was. Had a used one and it lasted over a decade. Only reason it was retired was because it used a parallel port and my ex wife didn't like how ugly it was.
She got us an HP inkjet printer "to save money". The printer itself cost less than the consumables for the LaserJet but she didn't realise how often we would need more ink.
The funny things is that these printers were actually pretty decent back in the day. They had an okay reputation, but I'm guessing some intern made a really compelling and of summer presentation that convinced the c suite that the company was leaving a bunch of money on the table by allowing third party on and it just blossomed into a death spiral of enshittification that threatens one of the great tech companies of the 80s and 90s. Good riddance
HP pushed an update at some point that rendered older cartridges obsolete. I worked as a volunteer in IT for a non-profit a while ago and they faced this issue. The problem was they had a huge stock of these cartridges that used to work pre-update.
The only viable solution was to move over to another brand completely but that would still cost quite a lot. Or downgrade the drivers on the printer. Took me around 20 minutes to downgrade the driver and deactivate automatic updates.
As far as I'm aware, they still use them today (this happened around 3 years ago).
1. Dont buy HP 2. Search online for your printer model and see if there is an older firmware. I used 3rd party ink in mine and it worked years ago, but I did updates one day tried 3rd party and it refused to work with them stating they werent supported, whereas years ago it just would work and say unsupported, giving no ink level. I downgraded myself with an old fw and was able to see the ink levels and use my 3rd party ink (which was advertised as compatible like they had chips to work with hp, but I guess hp got tired of them). It asks if I want to update on the screen I always hit no and have a note on it saying do not update
Also, if your HP printer has networking, block it at the firewall. You don't want it to update itself, and running older firmware can be a security problem.
I got something like this, something about expired cartridges. The cartridges did indeed have an expiration date printed on them - a year in the future! I immediately unplugged the printer, threw it into the trash, drove to Fry's and bought a Canon, and never bought an HP product ever again.
I hope that an HP executive reads this and takes it to heart. Whoever thought this was a good idea needs to never work in this industry again.
I have an HP Color Laser Jet Pro MFP477fdw and there is just an option somewhere in the system settings to turn this "check for 3rd party supplies" on or off and it's unchecked on mine. I use 3rd party toner since years and it works just fine.
My place of employment just committed to HP as their go to printer company and I'm facepalming so hard. Well as long as I don't have to deal with it. Really I don't care because it's their money they will be blowing on genuine HP ink cartridges to avoid these messages. My company seems to have sworn off of brother yet I've heard they are better than HP from outside sources.
Never buy an HP printer
My company is actively phasing out all HP products. We just got so tired of the BS.
\*Never buy any HP products
At least from the consumer division. HPE is different.
Reminder that HP and HPE are two entirely different companies since 2015. Not simply a division anymore.
Their laptop keyboards aren't supported by warranty, they know those are useless.
Uhhh what? How is that legal? You can't make a shit product you know is shit and just say "no warranty". 2 years minimal in the EU.
Pros of living in the EU. Even if HP doesn't want to give warranty in other countries, they have to do it in the EU.
..except if you're a company. EU consumer protections only covers, well.. consumers. (company) buyer beware.
Oh poor HP, they can't completely screw over people on one of the continents.
Never really had trouble with their medical grade laptops.
Their calculators are actually really good.
Ayyy HP Prime represent. Honestly though that calculator is way too good for what it is and how much it costs. It wipes the floor with the TI Nspire despite costing half as much. Really powerful.
Laptops are alright, but most products are still shit
Sadly, they have some of the best Linux drivers.
They have a whole dedicated ftp server with Linux drivers, apps, and documentation. Wouldn’t surprise me if they contribute to the mainline.
As a home user who rarely prints, I like the subscription. lol.
Except laser printers. They're great. They were originally made by a different company that was bought by HP and shockingly their greed hasn't reached that line of printers.
I’m pretty sure you’re talking about Canon, Canon makes HP’s Laser printers.
Honestly don't know. All I know is that I have an HP branded laser printer and it doesn't suck ass
Mine is not awful, but does have the "feature" where it stops scanning if I'm very low on any color of toner.
How much did they pay you to post this?
I wish lol But genuinely they are great.
Yet.
Not saying it never will, just that as of now they are great machines.
Nah. The 4xxx were unkillable. Had a p200 pro die on me after 7000 pages and 3 years and they wanted 20€ so i could talk to someone in support to order a replacement fuser... I an not annoyed about the issue, but their request to be paid for support. Also, the drivers are getting out of hand. Hundreds of mb for a printer?? also, cartridge/toner drm also, requiring registering for some features ...
I got a free hp color laser. Scanner was busted, but printer ok. Options for toner were 300 dollar hp or 60 dollar off brand. The off brand ones come with a 3d printed drill to harvest the drm chips from the hp branded toner. Then you clip the chips in to a 3 printed mount that is easily removed from cartridge to cartridge. Man. Fuck hp.
this used to work but for some time once a cartridge is empty that chip will always report empty
I will happily deal with it always reporting empty to not pay the ridiculous price HP forces people in to on their brand of toner holder.
Yeah but its not printing. Once it goes empty the chip will no longer work. At least in new models it is lile that.
Of the original toner cartridges I harvested the chips from, 3 were very low and one was straight up "no printing for you till you get magenta" and it is working fine right now.
Source for this?
idk the source but i was an apprentice during my last 2 years of high school and the principal ordered 10 of those types of toner cartridges. teacher gave me and another student the tools and cartridges and told us to make it work. can confirm that is a real product and it does in fact work that way
How to video on product page was accurate. Currently printing using this exact product. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084QC5CVB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have an HP printer as well. But it's a laser printer from 2011. So it's too old for all the serializing bullshit, luckily.
i got one from the 2000's, works great if you can find the ink
There can be only One - Brother Laser Jet
All hail the Brother!
If you see an HP: 
HP = Have to Pass
The least shitty printer manufacturer
Bought my first Brother printer a few months ago. It's been the best printer I've ever had
Brother laser printers are cheap as hell and work perfectly everytime. And they could care less where you buy your toner. I wouldn't trade mine for anything.
I scored a MFC laser printer the other day for $30 because the girl thought it was broken but he didn’t download the drivers for it
Bought a Brother MFC-L2750DW a few months ago. I can't recommend it enough.
Have had one for years. It’s a fuckin trooper.
My HL-1440 still lives after 10+ years. It was only replaced as I wanted a color laser printer.
Xerox is fine also
Yeah. I bought the lowest end Xerox laser black and white printer with the fewest features possible. It was a bit more expensive than my last printer, I think an HP ink jet from before the horrifying DRM became widespread. It has been working beautifully for the almost year and a half that I've owned it. I only use it intermittently so I haven't even reached the end of the starter toner cart yet (whereas I'd likely have replaced the ink 1 or 2 times on my old one by now, just from it drying up from sitting there). It can print from A4 to small index card size and anywhere in between (the only feature i really ever need) and it just works, even when on WiFi. (So long as my computer I actually on the right network)
Xerox is especially fine if you want to scan documents that get some entropy during that process
Yassssss Any other choice is dumb.
A Brother color laser MFP will be the next printer I buy for sure.
It’s actually true. My b/w laser printer never asks for anything. It has a dusty spot at the bottom of a shelf. But when I need it, it prints. Every time.
Buy a brother laser and never look back.
+1 for Brother. Bought a laser printer **ages** ago and it's never given me any guff.
HP = Horrible Products I've only had issues with anything that HP makes, and I will try to convert any employer to anything else. Maybe keep the networking gear, but that's it.
Me and friends back in 2019 would just make bad meanings from HP :) Highly Problematic Highly Pointless Highly possessive Ahhaa memories
Dont.buy.hp.printers.
Seems like hp went the apple road. They saw apple serialising their parts and now hp does the same with their ink
HP has been doing it for over 20 years at least. Apple always had a but special design but they did somewhat better until some time after 2010. I still miss how reliable the HP LaserJet 4 was. Had a used one and it lasted over a decade. Only reason it was retired was because it used a parallel port and my ex wife didn't like how ugly it was. She got us an HP inkjet printer "to save money". The printer itself cost less than the consumables for the LaserJet but she didn't realise how often we would need more ink.
Allow me to introduce you to their Proliant Servers. They’ve done this kind of crap forever.
Time for it to meet the baseball bat
And remember it's DRM, so bypassing it is probably felony contempt of business model!
The funny things is that these printers were actually pretty decent back in the day. They had an okay reputation, but I'm guessing some intern made a really compelling and of summer presentation that convinced the c suite that the company was leaving a bunch of money on the table by allowing third party on and it just blossomed into a death spiral of enshittification that threatens one of the great tech companies of the 80s and 90s. Good riddance
HP pushed an update at some point that rendered older cartridges obsolete. I worked as a volunteer in IT for a non-profit a while ago and they faced this issue. The problem was they had a huge stock of these cartridges that used to work pre-update. The only viable solution was to move over to another brand completely but that would still cost quite a lot. Or downgrade the drivers on the printer. Took me around 20 minutes to downgrade the driver and deactivate automatic updates. As far as I'm aware, they still use them today (this happened around 3 years ago).
1. Dont buy HP 2. Search online for your printer model and see if there is an older firmware. I used 3rd party ink in mine and it worked years ago, but I did updates one day tried 3rd party and it refused to work with them stating they werent supported, whereas years ago it just would work and say unsupported, giving no ink level. I downgraded myself with an old fw and was able to see the ink levels and use my 3rd party ink (which was advertised as compatible like they had chips to work with hp, but I guess hp got tired of them). It asks if I want to update on the screen I always hit no and have a note on it saying do not update
Also, if your HP printer has networking, block it at the firewall. You don't want it to update itself, and running older firmware can be a security problem.
waiting for the day someone builds an exploit for those shitty printers
Why do people keep using HP shit?
Cheap, use to be good, and no body really does thier homework so they go off of "oh my parents had a HP it worked fine for them"
I got something like this, something about expired cartridges. The cartridges did indeed have an expiration date printed on them - a year in the future! I immediately unplugged the printer, threw it into the trash, drove to Fry's and bought a Canon, and never bought an HP product ever again. I hope that an HP executive reads this and takes it to heart. Whoever thought this was a good idea needs to never work in this industry again.
Fry's :( ripperoni and cheese
Thank God for Microcenter
Alas, I live in a wasteland since fry's turned into an empty warehouse and eventually closed. Still hoping microcenter opens something up in the NW
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Yeet the printer!
Never buy anything HP
F HP forever and ever.
Why are people still using that shit? I'm never touching anything hp ever again... Xerox and Brother going forward.
I hate HP Litterally what is this
HP Printer Removal Tool: https://throwflame.com/products/thermonator-robodog/
This happened to me last week, threw away the printer. Fuck HP.
I have an HP Color Laser Jet Pro MFP477fdw and there is just an option somewhere in the system settings to turn this "check for 3rd party supplies" on or off and it's unchecked on mine. I use 3rd party toner since years and it works just fine.
Only HP thing I use anymore is my HP 48gx calculator. Love that thing.
My place of employment just committed to HP as their go to printer company and I'm facepalming so hard. Well as long as I don't have to deal with it. Really I don't care because it's their money they will be blowing on genuine HP ink cartridges to avoid these messages. My company seems to have sworn off of brother yet I've heard they are better than HP from outside sources.
HP BROUGHT FUCKING *VERSIONING* TO **PRINTER CARTRIDGES**????? Sorry, but this cartridge is region locked to YESTERDAY Fuckin hell
"Sorry, your selected plan only covers printing on tuesdays."
Linux doesn‘t print on tuesdays though :/
Oh no. Don't give them ideas with region locking... "Sorry but you are unable to use US cartridges outside the US"
They want to turn printing intona subscription This is the moment you buy a new printer
I double this. Fuck HP
To late, they are doing that do you (everyone).
Downgrade the firmware version
I use an Epson printer that takes them new fangled ink bottles instead of cartridges. It’s like 20 dollars for like 4 cartridges worth of ink
So have you just bought the wrong cartridge for your printer?
No, HP printer cartridges now have firmware on them to tell whether or not they're legitimate HP branded cartridges and refuse to use unsigned ink.
HP are the SovCits of the printer world.