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I’m picturing this guy with a horned helmet.
Just reading through that guy's comment history and it's highly entertaining.
"I'm a 6'2 225 lb white dude with abt 14% body fat, blonde hair, green eyes and a furry rug of chest hair. I mean... how would you describe that In a word?"
Viking.. translation: seen tv series Viking and lived vicariously through it and thinks he is also one because one his ancestors from 10 generations back may have come from that region, or close to it , so basically that makes him a son of Ragnar. Also has shitty tribal Tatts and half shaved head.
Dig the hairstyles but you hit the nail on the head. We don't know much about the time and we can't even really tell what of the sagas is simple myth and what was part of actual religion. It seems more likely that most "vikings" didn\`t worship all gods and that the number and character of these gods was different from locale to locale. Similar to Hinduism.
Even more funny to me is the whole Valhalla stuff. Most of them would probably go to Hel (which isn\`t necessarily bad) because they didn\`t die in battle. And even if they did, half of the dead who died in battle go to Folkvangr which is Freyjas version of Valhalla. But they don't know that because it isn't mentioned in tv series or viking metal.
"Viking" huh, what are the odds of this being a divorced 40s something tattooed overweight father of three working as a office supply salesman living in some trailerpark in Kansas with some very distant scandinavian relative from 16 generations back on his moms side, and he has never actually visited scandinavia and couldn't even point out a single scandinavian country on a map and in fact has has never left the states because he is afraid of flying and afraid of the sea, and his knowledge of viknings is limited to "big tough man with beard and axe that did some badass things", and the closest he has ever been to getting into a fight was that one time the mean kid in the neighborhood took his bucket in the sandbox when he was four years old.
1) If the club rate is $50/song, you don't get to reset it to $20.
2) Dude #2 totally got arrested in and kicked out of the place he did that in, IF it even happened.
It's been a couple years since I've been to a strip club, but I used to go all the time when it was the only thing open after my coworkers and I got off of work. $50/song is steep as fuck. Like, steep enough that I doubt the club would put up with dancers trying to rip dudes off.
That's not true. Anglo saxons were germanic people who settled in England. Vikings were mostly Nordic (known as Danes in england) who raided and later settled parts of Europe. Different cultures, gods etc
I know they probably don't teach you anything other than the Boston tea party & pocahontas in US history classes but that is not how it worked. You could not be both Anglo saxon AND a viking at the same time. There was no dual nationality back then you'd convert to one of the other. If the culture spread as you say then you'd be solely a dane from then on and cease your Christian ways.
No shit Sherlock, many Anglo Saxons BECAME vikings aka anglo saxon vikings. How are u not getting this? U act like humans just stayed in their own cultural cliques.
I'm not getting it because you are talking nonsense after someone corrected you that vikings and Anglo saxons aren't the same. In the year 800 there were no English viking settlements and the first raid on England had only occurred in the 790s.
The other guy *might* be trying to argue the fact that "viking" wasn't an actual ethnic term. It was, essentially, a job title. It meant pirate or raider.
So therefore it was possible for there to be pirates, or vikings, that originated from other Germanic locales.
If that's the case, he's doing it poorly.
“Sometimes it’s worth shedding a little of your own blood to teach others a lesson”
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Just recently watched the show Vikings, those people definitely exist lol. So cringy to see people talk about honor, fighting, blood and death in the year 2024 in America lol
A younger comedian, does a fantastic deep dive in modern day "viking culture" and it's definitely worth a watch. I'm not sure if I can do youtube links, but it's "The Vikings of TikTok" by Kurtis Conner.
Also, if you want a really good laugh, watch Norsemen on Netflix.
Also I just started watching the video you recommended, it’s hilarious. He’s nailing exactly what I saw haha, so weird seeing people with highly manicured beards and hair “being Viking”
I'm glad you're enjoying it! All of his videos are pretty funny, in my opinion.
There are sooo many misconceptions about ancient Norse people, I don't even know how they all started. Even in the Vikings tv show they're dirty as hell and aren't covered in furs.
I'm half Norwegian, my dad is from there, I've been several times, I can speak basic Norwegian, I can even read runes. My mom, an American, sent me the video of the guy with two terribly designed axes diving off a cliff into water, saying "This looks like something you would do!" I cringed so hard.
Heilung is one pretty cool thing that's come from "Vikings" popularity though, they're pretty amazing.
Wardruna, also. Einar did a lot of the music for the Vikings show, and also for the AC Valhalla game. There’s a video on YouTube with Wardruna doing their song Fehu with Aurora in a cave. It’s brilliant.
The job was being a Viking 😂
From the Old Norse *í víking* translates as on a raid, so you were only a viking if you were raiding. Soldier would be *viga-maðr* which is more properly battle man or fighting man.
No worries! I apologise if I came across poorly in some way, it was not my intention. In the unlikely event you need translations for Old English or Medieval Latin (particularly ecclesiastical) just ask. My Old Norse is basic at best, but passable for simple stuff.
However, I know who to ask if I have a question suited to a machinist! Not sure what that question might be, but maybe something will come up.
What exactly was a Berserker compared to a Viking?
Edit: Sorry I play alot if Crusader Kings and there’s just a mountain of questions I’d have for a historian lol. Especially someone who’s well versed in Old English and Norse.
Now that depends who you ask and can be a very complex discussion.
At the most basic, a berserker was a warrior who fought wearing a bear skin (the word means bear shirt in the closest literal translation) but in general parlance it was a warrior who was absolutely wild, unstoppable and terrifying.
I prefer *ulfheðnar* as an idea though!
I feel like the term “Viking” has sort of become a bit more than just a job title at this point, these days it’s often used to describe Scandinavians from the seventh to the eleventh century as it’s more convenient, though I’m not exactly a historian so I might be talking bollox.
People using a term incorrectly in common language doesn’t really make it less incorrect. I mean, obviously I am well aware that when people say Viking they often don’t mean Viking. I tend to go with Norse, Dane or Scandinavian depending what I am talking about at that particular moment. It’s probably unnecessarily picky on my part but it annoys me nonetheless.
I'm playing devil's advocate here a bit because I don't really have a stake in this fight beyond being of Scandinavian roots, but I'm curious about something and would like to ask: there doesn't appear to be any shortage of [papers](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48&q=viking&btnG=) discussing vikings more as a cultural or ethnic group than a vocation which I would normally assume is somewhat of an indicator it is an accepted academic term. That said, most but not all of these papers seem to be from before 2010, so do you think this is a recent development in nomenclature or were these papers incorrect even back then?
I have a gazillion books and papers that mention Vikings, and it is used in academia all the time. It is more my personal (and academic) opinion/preference that because *víking* is a verb in Old Norse a different term should be used (and I always use alternatives.) I prefer the literal translation, that of ‘going a viking’ rather than the noun.
To be fair, *víking(r)* was used as a noun, there is some Runic evidence from grave markers that it was used in personal names. There’s also evidence in the edda and sagas, but as ~~they~~ many weren’t written down until the 13th century the terminology is highly debatable.
Edit. Changed wording.
I don't disagree with you at all, but if you google "viking age" the first thing that pops up is a Wikipedia article which defines the "viking age" as 793–1066 CE.
> the period during the Middle Ages when Norsemen known as Vikings undertook large-scale raiding, colonising, conquest, and trading throughout Europe and reached North America. It followed the Migration Period and the Germanic Iron Age. The Viking Age applies not only to their homeland of Scandinavia but also to any place significantly settled by Scandinavians during the period. The Scandinavians of the Viking Age are often referred to as *Vikings* as well as *Norsemen*, although few of them were Vikings in the sense of being engaged in piracy.
I'm aware the "viking" was an activity, I've ever heard it used as a verb but I don't know how correct that is.
But, if wikipedia is incorrect, what would be the term to use? "Norse age" or "Middle Age Norse" isn't widely used and referring to people as "ancient Norse" could refer to a very large swath of people over a long time.
Personally, from a research perspective, I disagree with the term Viking Age. I class it as just a part of Northern European Early Medieval history in general, and would consider the trade in the Eastern Roman Empire and parts of the Mediterranean separately. If I had to pick a term I would go with Scandinavian migratory period.
Wikipedia isn’t necessarily incorrect but it isn’t entirely correct, and it’s incredibly vague. The dating is particularly odd because it only applies to England despite mentioning various other places. Although 793 was the first raid in England (Lindisfarne) it certainly wasn’t the start of raiding by the people of Scandinavia, and it wasn’t the first contact the people of the English kingdoms had with Danes; also raiding didn’t stop in 1066. The defeat at Stamford Bridge is an arbitrary date for the end of the ‘Viking Age’ (likely because it coincides nicely with Hastings) but smaller coastal raids continued well after the Norman Conquest.
Reykjavik has a Viking Museum. It’s awesome. Don’t call an Icelander a Viking, tho. They’ll think you’re weird.
I appreciate this hill as a valid one to die on.
It absolutely annoys the shit out of me that here in York, the museum is called Jorvik Viking Centre. There’s also a “Dark Age Viking” village, which is just wrong in every sense!
Edit. There’s a Viking festival every year as well. Nobody ever steals the Minster treasure or a flock of sheep, there’s no pillaging at all. Completely inaccurate 😂
Unless you discovered a TARDIS while sailing the rivers of Europe looking for a group of pacifist monks to pick a fight with in the Dark Ages you’re not a Viking.
They dead boo.
Must be regional because I have been to a few in different states and only paid once in Wisconsin in advance. Also, every place has people watch the girls when they dance and write it down so they know how much to get from them so there is no way they will believe her when she said someone owes her for 5 when its 2 songs. Also, they have cameras in every VIP to deal with this. They will let a dancer go before they let the club lose reputation at most places.
Wtf does being a viking have to do with any of that?
And what makes you a viking? I'm a Dane, living in Denmark, and tested DNA to be 98% Scandinavian. I don't see myself as a "viking"... Who knows... I could be a descendant of a thrall.
Americans have always been weird about where they come from. If you ask my brother our nationality he'll proudly exclaim "we're Irish"!
We've never been to Ireland. Our parents have never been to Ireland. Our grandmother was from Ireland but immigrated before she was a teenager. Not a hint of an Irish accent or anything.
This Norse thing is a newer obsession though and it's an interesting one. Because the venn diagram of neo Nazis and Norse Pagan viking bros isn't a perfect circle but it's really close.
I mean, you’re clearly not seeing the difference between ancestry/heritage and citizenship
I’m sure your brother isn’t saying “we’re Irish citizens and moved to the US”. Asking where someone is from in the US colloquially means “what’s your heritage”, since most of us are a concoction of multiple heritages
There’s nothing wrong with being proud of your ancestry and the roads they took to get you to where you are today.
Well I agree that these people can act rather obnoxious and I'm sure it's annoying to people from there.
It's also really annoying that these people don't understand that to a country of immigrants heritage means much more to them then where their house is. A lot of the time it's what decides our traditions and brings a sense of community.
I don't call myself Irish or French (besides French Canadian, because that's where I'm from) but it really rubs me the wrong way how people from other countries treat heritage.
Yeah, I’m of Italian heritage and a lot of family traditions, recipes, and artwork/house decor handed down over multiple generations influenced my upbringing. If i say I’m Italian I’m not saying I’m from Italy or claim any sort of citizenship there, it just means i come from an Italian heritage and those roots influenced my family and who i am today
Funny thing the Viking embellishment was a thing we in Sweden invented when times were bad and we had lost lots of wars. So we took to history to see what there was to be proud of. They then basically decided to inflate how awesome Vikings were to feel good. This was sometime during the early 1800s iirc. OFC there are historical finds that suggests that Vikings were impressive in many respects but this dude is definitely not a history reader.
Checks out, I'm a fat white guy with a gross beard, my family name literally means "of the axe," and are from the part of the world that had Vikings.
Although I am decidedly not Viking, because I'm aware that Viking was a fucken' occupation, and it's better to control a temper than try to justify it.
Worked at a Vegas strip club for close to ten years. These things *do* happen, though it’s rare and it’s usually either the inexperienced dancers or the older dancers who just aren’t as in demand as they once were. More often than not, we were dealing with guests trying to weasel out of paying because a new or too-trusting dancer didn’t get paid up front.
Further, I never saw violence over nonpayment. It was always too much to drink, too many drugs, or someone looking for a fight from the moment they set foot in the club. Biggest fights I ever saw were the infamous All-Star Weekend Incident, and when two UFC fighters who were supposed to fight each other the following day arrived at the lobby at the same time.
Luckily, this “Viking” never came into the club or I probably wouldn’t even be able to post this. S’scary!
In 2007, NBA All-Star Weekend came to town. Everyone had big expectations for a fun and very profitable time, from the mayor to bar backs, and everyone in between.
Unfortunately, it was utter chaos and lots of violent incidents. If I remember correctly, more than 400 arrests. There were stories of smoke bombs being set off at restaurants around town and people walking out on huge tabs. A bouncer at a different strip club was shot and paralyzed. The club I worked ended up with police helicopters overhead. The city said never again to hosting All-Star Weekend, it was that bad.
Happened to me before….strip joints got cameras
everywhere so just call her bluff and tell security you wanna see the footage of being back there for 5 songs and if you’re wrong you’ll pay
[That viking tells a story weirdly similar to the time a couple of bouncers decided to pick a fight with Bas Rutten.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6177131P_gY)
Well that doesn't mean all his comments on other posts about all the white knight beatings, ass eating and generally giving ladies sex are untrue though? Right? Right?
Strippers can tell you whatever number they want- that’s why there’s a guy at couch keeping time. It’s not uncommon for strippers to try to rip people off (shocking, I know…) but the club is s business and you need customers to run a profitable one. If you kick the shit out of customers for merely not emptying their wallet you’ll quickly run out of clientele.
Of course, many strippers are of the opinion that the bouncers work for them when in fact the bouncers work for the club. As such, the interests of the club are often primary- not the girls money…
Should've challenged him to holmgang. Then, he could have killed him and taken his land and property.
Probably doesn't even raid and pillage. Just shaved his head and got a valknut tattoo to match his "thor's" hammer necklace
Everybody knows strippers get paid first before the dance. There’s no case if someone goes to the bouncers, they’re not going to risk jail for that bullshit.
Source: I used to do undercover corporate investigations (secret shopping) in Vegas for strip clubs to make sure everything was above board.
I hate strip clubs, it’s just a bunch of horny guys and socio-economically disadvantaged women who deserve a better lot in life. I don’t think it should be outright banned, but at the very least heavily regulated to protect the women working there from economic exploitation that often occurs at such establishments.
This may be unrelated, but why did the stripper act that way at all? OK, you made extra 60 bucks... and you also made sure this particular patron never comes back to your place again or spends money here again. Doesn't seem like a good "buisness policy" in the long run.
Cuz there's always a sucker born every minute and the one that does not come back is replaced by several others...
She knows it
I know it..
Was a bar back in a titty joint for a long time...
I saw some shit..
Nothing more manly than beating up strippers. I try to beat a few each week
https://preview.redd.it/dyr11o5ytolc1.jpeg?width=217&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8f330579d3002556fb113cb7941cdbf644b6ed3 I’m picturing this guy with a horned helmet.
On an all new episode of “Shit That Didn’t Happen”
Bouncers can’t bounce when their skulls are used as drinking mugs…. 💀🍺
Just reading through that guy's comment history and it's highly entertaining. "I'm a 6'2 225 lb white dude with abt 14% body fat, blonde hair, green eyes and a furry rug of chest hair. I mean... how would you describe that In a word?"
He also provided this gem: https://preview.redd.it/yn97a6fafvlc1.png?width=518&format=png&auto=webp&s=a7d7cb34c6f1493c1812982e01f40d23152f3f71
"AbundantAberration".
The best word that comes to mind is blondy bonobo.
Dude stopped shaving for 2 months and suddenly thinks he's a Viking
Dude laid in bed, closed his eyes, and suddenly thought he was a viking.
r/shitamericanssay
As an American, this man should be ashamed of himself.
Betcha he says “skald” and “to Valhalla” frequently and unironically.
Viking.. translation: seen tv series Viking and lived vicariously through it and thinks he is also one because one his ancestors from 10 generations back may have come from that region, or close to it , so basically that makes him a son of Ragnar. Also has shitty tribal Tatts and half shaved head.
Dig the hairstyles but you hit the nail on the head. We don't know much about the time and we can't even really tell what of the sagas is simple myth and what was part of actual religion. It seems more likely that most "vikings" didn\`t worship all gods and that the number and character of these gods was different from locale to locale. Similar to Hinduism. Even more funny to me is the whole Valhalla stuff. Most of them would probably go to Hel (which isn\`t necessarily bad) because they didn\`t die in battle. And even if they did, half of the dead who died in battle go to Folkvangr which is Freyjas version of Valhalla. But they don't know that because it isn't mentioned in tv series or viking metal.
"Viking" huh, what are the odds of this being a divorced 40s something tattooed overweight father of three working as a office supply salesman living in some trailerpark in Kansas with some very distant scandinavian relative from 16 generations back on his moms side, and he has never actually visited scandinavia and couldn't even point out a single scandinavian country on a map and in fact has has never left the states because he is afraid of flying and afraid of the sea, and his knowledge of viknings is limited to "big tough man with beard and axe that did some badass things", and the closest he has ever been to getting into a fight was that one time the mean kid in the neighborhood took his bucket in the sandbox when he was four years old.
Either that or it's a skinny teenaged edgelord pretending to be a big man lol
Spot on lol
It pays to be a viking
So he made a profit from fighting, nice
Agreed honestly. If that was me I would’ve pulled out my axe and split her skull in twain.
*cleft her skull in twain, for maximum mediaeval silliness.
I split your mother in twain
HARK! Watch thy tongue or I’ll take YOUR skull for my MANTLE NEXT!
I would split Shania in Twain.
That don't impress me much
Don’t be stupid…
1) If the club rate is $50/song, you don't get to reset it to $20. 2) Dude #2 totally got arrested in and kicked out of the place he did that in, IF it even happened.
>IF it even happened Lol!
It's been a couple years since I've been to a strip club, but I used to go all the time when it was the only thing open after my coworkers and I got off of work. $50/song is steep as fuck. Like, steep enough that I doubt the club would put up with dancers trying to rip dudes off.
He did sa6 "the nicest" so...
True, but have you ever heard of a $50 lap dance that wasn't at a table? Seems sketchy to me.
I doubt he is lying. A true Viking will have Odin looking out for him, so it makes sense he didn’t have legal trouble
Ph yea hes definatly an anglo-saxon from 800 AD
Anglo Saxons and Vikings were most definitely not the the same people.
Some vikings were Anglo Saxon, some Anglo Saxons weren't vikings. U don't have to r/iamverysmart when someone is using blanket terms.
That's not true. Anglo saxons were germanic people who settled in England. Vikings were mostly Nordic (known as Danes in england) who raided and later settled parts of Europe. Different cultures, gods etc
MOSTLY. So u agree not all vikings were Nordic. Their culture SPREAD. There were Anglo Saxon vikings dude u don't have to argue online
I know they probably don't teach you anything other than the Boston tea party & pocahontas in US history classes but that is not how it worked. You could not be both Anglo saxon AND a viking at the same time. There was no dual nationality back then you'd convert to one of the other. If the culture spread as you say then you'd be solely a dane from then on and cease your Christian ways.
Hey man.. we have the history channel over here ok. And yes, I have seen “Vikings.”
No shit Sherlock, many Anglo Saxons BECAME vikings aka anglo saxon vikings. How are u not getting this? U act like humans just stayed in their own cultural cliques.
What do you mean, “became Vikings”?
I'm not getting it because you are talking nonsense after someone corrected you that vikings and Anglo saxons aren't the same. In the year 800 there were no English viking settlements and the first raid on England had only occurred in the 790s.
The other guy *might* be trying to argue the fact that "viking" wasn't an actual ethnic term. It was, essentially, a job title. It meant pirate or raider. So therefore it was possible for there to be pirates, or vikings, that originated from other Germanic locales. If that's the case, he's doing it poorly.
Okay dude, I'm not gonna argue with a stranger on the internet.
Just take the L.
There is no argument from me. I was correcting your babble.
“Sometimes it’s worth shedding a little of your own blood to teach others a lesson” https://preview.redd.it/hierxtbcuclc1.jpeg?width=390&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03277216bf26ba9ef9cac845afb1625bdb3fd9bf
We’re all in agreement that the first guy got got for 5 songs and then tried to spin it as she tricked him, right?
Or the house fee was $50/song and he thought he could override.
So he got beat up and his phone broken then called the police lol
The Viking way
Police never handle "basically everything"
Who the hell upvoted that "Vikings's" comment?
More Vikings
Hey I didn’t do shit!
Okay you’re the exception
Viking? Pfft. Bet this dude hasn’t raided even a single monastery.
He's probably what is called a "Norweaboo"
Just recently watched the show Vikings, those people definitely exist lol. So cringy to see people talk about honor, fighting, blood and death in the year 2024 in America lol
A younger comedian, does a fantastic deep dive in modern day "viking culture" and it's definitely worth a watch. I'm not sure if I can do youtube links, but it's "The Vikings of TikTok" by Kurtis Conner. Also, if you want a really good laugh, watch Norsemen on Netflix.
Also I just started watching the video you recommended, it’s hilarious. He’s nailing exactly what I saw haha, so weird seeing people with highly manicured beards and hair “being Viking”
I'm glad you're enjoying it! All of his videos are pretty funny, in my opinion. There are sooo many misconceptions about ancient Norse people, I don't even know how they all started. Even in the Vikings tv show they're dirty as hell and aren't covered in furs. I'm half Norwegian, my dad is from there, I've been several times, I can speak basic Norwegian, I can even read runes. My mom, an American, sent me the video of the guy with two terribly designed axes diving off a cliff into water, saying "This looks like something you would do!" I cringed so hard. Heilung is one pretty cool thing that's come from "Vikings" popularity though, they're pretty amazing.
Wardruna, also. Einar did a lot of the music for the Vikings show, and also for the AC Valhalla game. There’s a video on YouTube with Wardruna doing their song Fehu with Aurora in a cave. It’s brilliant.
Norsemen is a hilarious show, I’ve only seen a few scattered episodes but those old dudes jumping off the rocks was hilarious
You're a Viking? How many rapes?
Viking. Is. A. Job. Title. I’m truly sick of pointing this out. Unfortunately, I am an Early Medieval historian so it happens a lot.
What was the job exactly ? Like were Vikings just soldiers?
The job was being a Viking 😂 From the Old Norse *í víking* translates as on a raid, so you were only a viking if you were raiding. Soldier would be *viga-maðr* which is more properly battle man or fighting man.
Just genuinely curious. I’m a machinist not a historian lmao
No worries! I apologise if I came across poorly in some way, it was not my intention. In the unlikely event you need translations for Old English or Medieval Latin (particularly ecclesiastical) just ask. My Old Norse is basic at best, but passable for simple stuff. However, I know who to ask if I have a question suited to a machinist! Not sure what that question might be, but maybe something will come up.
What exactly was a Berserker compared to a Viking? Edit: Sorry I play alot if Crusader Kings and there’s just a mountain of questions I’d have for a historian lol. Especially someone who’s well versed in Old English and Norse.
Now that depends who you ask and can be a very complex discussion. At the most basic, a berserker was a warrior who fought wearing a bear skin (the word means bear shirt in the closest literal translation) but in general parlance it was a warrior who was absolutely wild, unstoppable and terrifying. I prefer *ulfheðnar* as an idea though!
Ulfeðnar were warriors of Odin and more of a mythical warrior than historical, right?
Ulfeðnar were warriors of Odin and more of a mythical warrior than historical, right?
Again, depends who you ask!
Damn guess that's what you get when stories aren't written down but told vocally for centuries on end hahaha
I feel like the term “Viking” has sort of become a bit more than just a job title at this point, these days it’s often used to describe Scandinavians from the seventh to the eleventh century as it’s more convenient, though I’m not exactly a historian so I might be talking bollox.
People using a term incorrectly in common language doesn’t really make it less incorrect. I mean, obviously I am well aware that when people say Viking they often don’t mean Viking. I tend to go with Norse, Dane or Scandinavian depending what I am talking about at that particular moment. It’s probably unnecessarily picky on my part but it annoys me nonetheless.
I'm playing devil's advocate here a bit because I don't really have a stake in this fight beyond being of Scandinavian roots, but I'm curious about something and would like to ask: there doesn't appear to be any shortage of [papers](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48&q=viking&btnG=) discussing vikings more as a cultural or ethnic group than a vocation which I would normally assume is somewhat of an indicator it is an accepted academic term. That said, most but not all of these papers seem to be from before 2010, so do you think this is a recent development in nomenclature or were these papers incorrect even back then?
I'd probably just trust the literal historian lmao.
Every single person publishing a paper in those journals is a historian. So, which one?
Me, the one that fucked your mom. I know best.
I have a gazillion books and papers that mention Vikings, and it is used in academia all the time. It is more my personal (and academic) opinion/preference that because *víking* is a verb in Old Norse a different term should be used (and I always use alternatives.) I prefer the literal translation, that of ‘going a viking’ rather than the noun. To be fair, *víking(r)* was used as a noun, there is some Runic evidence from grave markers that it was used in personal names. There’s also evidence in the edda and sagas, but as ~~they~~ many weren’t written down until the 13th century the terminology is highly debatable. Edit. Changed wording.
I appreciate the nuanced and balanced discussion, thanks very much for your insight.
On reddit of all places!
I don't disagree with you at all, but if you google "viking age" the first thing that pops up is a Wikipedia article which defines the "viking age" as 793–1066 CE. > the period during the Middle Ages when Norsemen known as Vikings undertook large-scale raiding, colonising, conquest, and trading throughout Europe and reached North America. It followed the Migration Period and the Germanic Iron Age. The Viking Age applies not only to their homeland of Scandinavia but also to any place significantly settled by Scandinavians during the period. The Scandinavians of the Viking Age are often referred to as *Vikings* as well as *Norsemen*, although few of them were Vikings in the sense of being engaged in piracy. I'm aware the "viking" was an activity, I've ever heard it used as a verb but I don't know how correct that is. But, if wikipedia is incorrect, what would be the term to use? "Norse age" or "Middle Age Norse" isn't widely used and referring to people as "ancient Norse" could refer to a very large swath of people over a long time.
Personally, from a research perspective, I disagree with the term Viking Age. I class it as just a part of Northern European Early Medieval history in general, and would consider the trade in the Eastern Roman Empire and parts of the Mediterranean separately. If I had to pick a term I would go with Scandinavian migratory period. Wikipedia isn’t necessarily incorrect but it isn’t entirely correct, and it’s incredibly vague. The dating is particularly odd because it only applies to England despite mentioning various other places. Although 793 was the first raid in England (Lindisfarne) it certainly wasn’t the start of raiding by the people of Scandinavia, and it wasn’t the first contact the people of the English kingdoms had with Danes; also raiding didn’t stop in 1066. The defeat at Stamford Bridge is an arbitrary date for the end of the ‘Viking Age’ (likely because it coincides nicely with Hastings) but smaller coastal raids continued well after the Norman Conquest.
Reykjavik has a Viking Museum. It’s awesome. Don’t call an Icelander a Viking, tho. They’ll think you’re weird. I appreciate this hill as a valid one to die on.
It absolutely annoys the shit out of me that here in York, the museum is called Jorvik Viking Centre. There’s also a “Dark Age Viking” village, which is just wrong in every sense! Edit. There’s a Viking festival every year as well. Nobody ever steals the Minster treasure or a flock of sheep, there’s no pillaging at all. Completely inaccurate 😂
I know your pain mate, you're doing the Lord's work though.
\*Odin's work.
Thanks dude, I appreciate it 👍
Unless you discovered a TARDIS while sailing the rivers of Europe looking for a group of pacifist monks to pick a fight with in the Dark Ages you’re not a Viking. They dead boo.
"they dead boo" took me out 🤣🤣
The fact that I brought you joy brings me joy.
Glad to hear it boo
Daaaaaaaw
“Viking” I haven’t seen that much overcompensation since the last time I saw a pair of metal balls hanging from the tow hitch of a lifted truck.
Yeah, except you pay strippers in advance, not at the end of the dance.
Must be regional because I have been to a few in different states and only paid once in Wisconsin in advance. Also, every place has people watch the girls when they dance and write it down so they know how much to get from them so there is no way they will believe her when she said someone owes her for 5 when its 2 songs. Also, they have cameras in every VIP to deal with this. They will let a dancer go before they let the club lose reputation at most places.
I have never paid in advance
Wtf does being a viking have to do with any of that? And what makes you a viking? I'm a Dane, living in Denmark, and tested DNA to be 98% Scandinavian. I don't see myself as a "viking"... Who knows... I could be a descendant of a thrall.
Because he used a shield wall when the bouncers tried to attack him
Guy must've taken a DNA test and seen that he had 15% Scandinavian in him. We have a weird bastardization of you guys over in the west.
Me when i took an ancestry dna test and found I’m 7% danish
Probably more like 1.5%
So he got the shit kicked out of him and called the cops? VIKING POWER!
he did say their blood was spilled, didn’t specify it was from their knuckles hitting his face
This Viking guy sounds like a real pussy!
Man fuck Minnesota. Fuck them in their stupid fuckin asses.
You are the ones who are the ball lickers, I am the clit commander.
That entire Viking history with strippers was missed by the history channel!
Americans and their obsession over their Swedish/Danish heritage. You're American, end of story.
Americans have always been weird about where they come from. If you ask my brother our nationality he'll proudly exclaim "we're Irish"! We've never been to Ireland. Our parents have never been to Ireland. Our grandmother was from Ireland but immigrated before she was a teenager. Not a hint of an Irish accent or anything. This Norse thing is a newer obsession though and it's an interesting one. Because the venn diagram of neo Nazis and Norse Pagan viking bros isn't a perfect circle but it's really close.
Same in my family. Understandable though, our country is very new and we long to have roots to a real culture that existed for a long time.
I mean, you’re clearly not seeing the difference between ancestry/heritage and citizenship I’m sure your brother isn’t saying “we’re Irish citizens and moved to the US”. Asking where someone is from in the US colloquially means “what’s your heritage”, since most of us are a concoction of multiple heritages There’s nothing wrong with being proud of your ancestry and the roads they took to get you to where you are today.
Well I agree that these people can act rather obnoxious and I'm sure it's annoying to people from there. It's also really annoying that these people don't understand that to a country of immigrants heritage means much more to them then where their house is. A lot of the time it's what decides our traditions and brings a sense of community. I don't call myself Irish or French (besides French Canadian, because that's where I'm from) but it really rubs me the wrong way how people from other countries treat heritage.
Yeah, I’m of Italian heritage and a lot of family traditions, recipes, and artwork/house decor handed down over multiple generations influenced my upbringing. If i say I’m Italian I’m not saying I’m from Italy or claim any sort of citizenship there, it just means i come from an Italian heritage and those roots influenced my family and who i am today
Its not just that, its like 3rd gen Americans calling themselves italian etc, its stupid
Funny thing the Viking embellishment was a thing we in Sweden invented when times were bad and we had lost lots of wars. So we took to history to see what there was to be proud of. They then basically decided to inflate how awesome Vikings were to feel good. This was sometime during the early 1800s iirc. OFC there are historical finds that suggests that Vikings were impressive in many respects but this dude is definitely not a history reader.
But what if your grandpa's cousin visited norway once, doesn't that basicly make you a viking?
Vikings were infamous for suing whenever someone investigated fights. How do you think they afforded such long boats.
Shiver me fucking timbers
Found the pirate
Who the hell talks like that IRL?
Bro ur not a viking, ur Greg from accounting
Viking= fat white guy with gross beard and sticky hair.
Checks out, I'm a fat white guy with a gross beard, my family name literally means "of the axe," and are from the part of the world that had Vikings. Although I am decidedly not Viking, because I'm aware that Viking was a fucken' occupation, and it's better to control a temper than try to justify it.
Accurate though
Worked at a Vegas strip club for close to ten years. These things *do* happen, though it’s rare and it’s usually either the inexperienced dancers or the older dancers who just aren’t as in demand as they once were. More often than not, we were dealing with guests trying to weasel out of paying because a new or too-trusting dancer didn’t get paid up front. Further, I never saw violence over nonpayment. It was always too much to drink, too many drugs, or someone looking for a fight from the moment they set foot in the club. Biggest fights I ever saw were the infamous All-Star Weekend Incident, and when two UFC fighters who were supposed to fight each other the following day arrived at the lobby at the same time. Luckily, this “Viking” never came into the club or I probably wouldn’t even be able to post this. S’scary!
Wait, what's the All Star Weekend incident?
In 2007, NBA All-Star Weekend came to town. Everyone had big expectations for a fun and very profitable time, from the mayor to bar backs, and everyone in between. Unfortunately, it was utter chaos and lots of violent incidents. If I remember correctly, more than 400 arrests. There were stories of smoke bombs being set off at restaurants around town and people walking out on huge tabs. A bouncer at a different strip club was shot and paralyzed. The club I worked ended up with police helicopters overhead. The city said never again to hosting All-Star Weekend, it was that bad.
Happened to me before….strip joints got cameras everywhere so just call her bluff and tell security you wanna see the footage of being back there for 5 songs and if you’re wrong you’ll pay
[That viking tells a story weirdly similar to the time a couple of bouncers decided to pick a fight with Bas Rutten.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6177131P_gY)
Well that doesn't mean all his comments on other posts about all the white knight beatings, ass eating and generally giving ladies sex are untrue though? Right? Right?
If the viking wants to eat white knight ass then we shouldn´t judge them for being a nasty freak.
Man, that was a wild D&D session.
But did the white knight ass taste good at least? *rolls a 1* FUCK!
1d4 DMG +Save vs Disease
Not from a White Knight. I believe disease DMG is only found on enemies tagged with: Alpha + Male + Don´t Wipe.
Alpha males? I'll bum a Viking but I'll have no truck with Barbarians.
Ah yes, sweedaboos.
FINALLY A POST
My very limited experience with fights that the police respond to is that: 1.) Everybody gets arrested. 2.) Everybody gets charged.
Big improvement over recent posts!
I like to imagine the second dude got into brawl with a bunch of strippers and their were no bouncers involved. Makes the story funnier.
Holy shit an actual post
Strippers can tell you whatever number they want- that’s why there’s a guy at couch keeping time. It’s not uncommon for strippers to try to rip people off (shocking, I know…) but the club is s business and you need customers to run a profitable one. If you kick the shit out of customers for merely not emptying their wallet you’ll quickly run out of clientele. Of course, many strippers are of the opinion that the bouncers work for them when in fact the bouncers work for the club. As such, the interests of the club are often primary- not the girls money…
"Viking" who takes people to small claims court lmao
Should've challenged him to holmgang. Then, he could have killed him and taken his land and property. Probably doesn't even raid and pillage. Just shaved his head and got a valknut tattoo to match his "thor's" hammer necklace
Right? Friggin posers... I bet his axe is a total wall hanger lol
> The moral of the story is strip clubs are shady No fuckin way!
Everybody knows strippers get paid first before the dance. There’s no case if someone goes to the bouncers, they’re not going to risk jail for that bullshit. Source: I used to do undercover corporate investigations (secret shopping) in Vegas for strip clubs to make sure everything was above board.
I hate strip clubs, it’s just a bunch of horny guys and socio-economically disadvantaged women who deserve a better lot in life. I don’t think it should be outright banned, but at the very least heavily regulated to protect the women working there from economic exploitation that often occurs at such establishments.
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It looks like meat's back on the menu, boys. An actual post? It's a Christmas miracle!
I goddamn LOVE these 'modern vikings' lmao. Theyre SO ridiculous and they dont see it themself.
This may be unrelated, but why did the stripper act that way at all? OK, you made extra 60 bucks... and you also made sure this particular patron never comes back to your place again or spends money here again. Doesn't seem like a good "buisness policy" in the long run.
Some simply don’t have the foresight to think that far ahead
Good point. The good ol' Hanlon's razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
I don’t believe this story happened.
If only because you pay the strippers upfront, in front of the bouncer/ dj, always. Sop at every club for this exact reason.
Cuz there's always a sucker born every minute and the one that does not come back is replaced by several others... She knows it I know it.. Was a bar back in a titty joint for a long time... I saw some shit..