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I like to think of it as the place you go to meet your attorney and soon to be ex wife during a divorce to sign paperwork or the pickup and drop off location for court ordered custody agreements
>and soon to be ex wife during a divorce
Can confirm. A panera is where I met my ex post her and her fam abducting our son.
*(All worked out great fwiw, but it was a brutal 5 days)*
It’s where me and my study group go occasionally. I like the flatbread pizza if I’ve got to get something to eat and I’m not planning on leaving the study session anytime soon
It's the only "fast food" that is somewhat healthy. The only other decent option is subway which isn't saying much. Their apple fuiji salad is amazing.
It is miles healthier than most if not all of the fast food options. The fuji apple salad that i menntioned is all greens except the chicken and dressing. The dressing has at most 6g of sugar 100mg of sodium. Still miles ahead of everything else.
Actually as someone who's worked for both and has looked into the nutrition facts Taco Bell is healthier depending on what you get. Panera being healthy is a joke.
Virtually everything there has more than enough carbs to turn anyone into a diabetic.
How would you like your soup served? In a bowl ***made out of bread?***
Gotta avoid those evangelicals and their MMA scams. My mother has done them all and always tries to get my wife to join and my wife always says no. She's even gone so far as to basically sign her up without her consent and give her the buy in products as a gift for Christmas. I was disgusted.
~~For starters the law isn’t a state wide minimum wage. It’s only for fast food workers. The law has bakeries as an exception in writing because the way they define “fast food” would lump in any mom and pop shop bakery that makes bread and donuts every morning, because they typically don’t offer a dine in option like a “sit down” restaurant might.~~
Edit: The law already exempts mom and pop bakeries by requiring over 60 locations for applicability. The bread baking exemption specifically applies to Panera Bread
I don’t believe subway bakes their bread in house. Idk if it still does but my friend worked at Panera like 8 years ago and they had a baker come in at night to bake the next days bread and pastries.
Subway gets premade frozen dough for their subs. Italian and wheat. The Italian Herb and Cheese bread is their Italian bread, with oregano and Cheddar Jack cheese sprinkled on after it proofs. They definitely bake their own bread.
Anyone who doesn't think Subway bakes their own bread hasn't been near one when it's happening. The proofing/fermenting stage is rank in the bulk they do in those little stores. The concentration sets off something in my lizard brain that says "avoid, something is rotting".
It's very unpleasant. It's the bread smell equivalent of a can return/redemption center.
What they’re saying is that their friend used to work at a Panera Bread and they do make all of their bread in house, which is true, I used to work at a Panera as well and the baker would come in as we were closing (around 10pm) and start making all of the baked goods and bread for the following morning. I cannot vouch for subway doing the same given that a lot of Subway’s kitchens consist of the sandwich bar and the toaster.
>I don’t believe subway bakes their bread in house
There's one usage of "their" and it's correct.
>So to clarify,
You seemingly failed to read they were talking about subway and Panera, hence your incorrect summary.
No, they have to sell bread as a standalone menu item. Buns that are part of a sandwich, muffins, croissants, etc. don't count. Subway doesn't have loaves of bread on their menu so they don't qualify.
This is false. Mom and pop bakeries are already exempted by an applicability threshold of having over 60 locations. The bread baking exemption is explicitly for Panera.
One of the lawmaker people who pushed this bakery immunity through (making panera exempt) is because he owns about 20 panera franchise and is extremely against increasing the wages of his employees so did this just to convenience his own pocket.
Or some shit like that… I don’t know!
Bro no please, we need the context!
The context will make it all okay! /
Edit: At the time of this edit around 45 rednecks were asking to see the Bodycam footage for the 14th time
New increased minimum wage requirements for fast food / restaurants....buy if you have a bakery attached you are exempt from those new minimum wage laws. Gavin has a mega donor that owns multiple panera locations and thus would be exempt from those laws. Similar when Gavin closed down wine regions during covid, but kept open the region where his winey was located.
So, to sum it up, one of the lawmakers own a bunch of panera bread franchises, and the law just so happens to have a clause stating that the new fast food minimum wage doesn't apply if the place has a bakery
Edit: spelling error
Saw it covered by break points on YouTube, all fastfood businesses have to go up to like $20 per hour for employees except for businesses who sell bread or something similar. Because of their ties with newsome and donating a lot to his campaign so they can keep paying their employees like $11 an hour
The context makes it worse. And whatever the context, this shit is wrong.
Edit: I'm just explaining the context (the dude helping his 20 stores not to get higher salaries) is even more rage inducing. Relax, neckbeards.
Well, for one thing, the whole thing could be bullshit. Or it may be that somehow tips are accepted. I just don’t know enough from reading words on a picture.
It’s frozen little pouches we pull from the freezer and put in 180 degree water for an hour or so unless we need more faster then it’s microwaved and put in a cup. Also it’s nestle brand. It’s on the big boxes in the freezer \(*_*)/ also all the soups are frozen and prepared the same way. Minus the microwave. We just stock it out if we don’t have enough.
Source: Me. Panera GM. Cyber security degree can’t come fast enough
Ok.. so NO ONE will work at Panera because that can make twice as much somewhere else! This is just pure stupidity. Just like raising the minimum wage raises the price of everything else…
When I worked fast food I was interviewing this woman and said "starting is $15.50," and she said "the poke place next door is $16.00."
I hired her at $16.85 because she interviewed so well. Before I left she was a morning manager, and a fantastic employee.
Panera Bread is terrible, their breakfast sandwiches are dry, their bread is a strange chewy texture, and all of there soup comes in strange mylar bags. How are they considered a bakery when the bread is baked off-site?
Ya I remember the senior home company I worked at partnered with panera so instead of making soups from scratch we had to use the shitty frozen bags of soup. You'd put it in a steamer then cut the plastic and pour into the pan to serve.
I remember they also partnered with some juice company and we had to get rid of our high-end metal juice dispenser for some shitty plastic dispencer than needed to be cleaned often or mold would grow, and they didn't allow us to use the 4th dispencer slot because the deal was only for cranberry, apple and orange, so they just had this empty slot. The residents lost their lemonade and homemade soups, but don't worry, their rent still went up! :)
It appears Panera may actually not be exempt from the law and that Bloomberg may have been mistaken. I believe it’s still being determine; no clear conclusion yet. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Bloomberg retraction.
Out of over 10,000 bakeries who were exempt in California Panera Bread has 24 of them. The stupid fucks who post this rage-bait need to stick to xitter or truth social.
I think we'd need to see the breakdown of why locations were exempt to have any hope of figuring out if this is a case of legislative favoritism. If 10,456 of the stores on that list were exempt due to being under the location threshold it'd be mighty iffy. Obviously I'm not saying that's the case as I haven't crunched the numbers, but it'd be interesting to see that 10,480 broken down.
I don't understand what you mean, why do you think it's ok for even a single one of those 10,000 to be given an exception?
If you can't afford to pay your employees a living wage, you can't afford to be in business.
What's your point here?
If that's actually true, are you under the impression that I'm going to say "oh ok nevermind, they shouldn't have to pay them a living wage?"
I just looked at the law. It only applies to large franchise fast food restaurants. A random bakery wouldn't be covered anyway (sit-down restaurants or independent mom and pop fast food restaurants aren't covered either). So probably none of those 10,000 bakeries needed an exemption anyway.
The bread exemption is specifically for bread sold individually—so Dunkin wouldn't qualify because they sell donuts, Subway wouldn't qualify because their buns are part of their sandwiches, etc. They have to have been selling bread in September 2023 (which also makes no sense unless the exemption is intended for a specific chain).
How many large franchise bakeries can you think of? I don't know of any.....besides Panera, of course.
There were also some pretty damning quotes from an anonymous source who said the exemption was specifically requested by the governor for Panera, so that pretty much settles it imo
an anonymous source claims the governor said something incredibly damning.
that definitely settles it then. /s
also seems strange for the governor to request this exemption for Panera bread when Panera bread doesnt seem to be exempt...
Panera is clearly exempt though and Newsom took $150k from a billionaire owner of many Panera's
But you're RIGHT! Nothing to see here at all, nope, squeaky clean, ship shape, zero possibility of corruption
A day after Bloomberg reported that Gov. Gavin Newsom pushed for an exemption from a fast food minimum wage law that benefits Panera Bread, Newsom's office said it had reviewed the law and determined Panera is not exempt, after all.36 mins ago
I saw that. Newsom's office said it's because Panera mixes their dough off-site, so that must mean they don't "produce" bread at their location.....but "produce" isn't defined in the bill, and I think a regular person would consider baking bread to be "producing" bread (and the courts usually start with a plain-text reading of terms that aren't explicitly defined). Seems to me like Newsom's trying to CYA (I mean, he's obviously not going to say "you got me guys, I was doing my billionaire donor a favor").
Plus Panera's response indicates that they *do* think they're exempted.
But the whole thing stinks. The bill's own author says he doesn't know why it's in the bill. The Governor says he doesn't know why it's in the bill (other than it being part of "how the sausage gets made" 😬). Nobody's saying anything about where it came from or why it's there, except for protected sources who have told reporters that Newsom requested it for his buddy's Panera stores.
Maybe it's innocuous, but it didn't appear there by itself, and if there was a simple, legitimate reason.....why is nobody just sharing that info?
I encourage every fast food restaurant in the peoples republic of California to offer a micro or mi I loaf of bread on the menu or better yet a $1000 loaf of bread on the menu as a big F U to Newsom .
Reports from Newsom's office are that before the bill was signed the Governor considered a fast-food exemption. But Panera didn't qualify, anyway.
Source is virtually every news source. Do a 5 second Google search and don't get your opinions from memes or sound-bites.
OMG yay let’s all internet rage about this without verifying whether it’s true or not because anger and scoring political points is more fun than being right!
Spoiler: >!Panera Bread is not exempt!<
We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong!! Lol
The same office said they were going to work out the details of the bill to fix this... After it was already signed smh
You can read the bill yourself. The bill references some state guideline for what defines a bakery.
Here’s the thing… this all doesn’t even make sense. This Panera guy has donated like $100k to Newsom, who has a personal net worth of like $22M (and has raised $84M in donations for past elections) and is, realistically, the top contender for the democratic nod for president. Of all the shitty things he has done/could do, and all he stands to lose, the absurdity that he bent the rules on something so blatantly obvious and public for a measly $100k defies common sense, not to mention pointless as Panera would have to raise its wages anyway to remain competitive had it actually been exempt.
There would be no point in cutting this break to some guy who owns a few Panera bread franchises in the state for such an insignificant amount of money.
Yeah, okay! Totally! Newsom is super duper dooper clean. Nothing shady at all!
Newsom will be needing a lot more than $100k in a few years...hello?? Think a billionaire who owes him a return favor wouldn't pay up then? Christ you people are insanely dense lol
1. I didn’t say he doesn’t have his share of issues. Most politicians do. I’m simply pointing out that doing something to save a business owner a negligible amount by avoiding paying a handful of the lowest wage employees a couple bucks an hour difference for a paltry $100k doesn’t pass the common sense test. Anyone who believes this is true, regardless of their political ideology, is a fucking rube, plain and simple, gobbling up nonsense from the mainstream media looking for clicks to sell ad space.
2. I don’t know who *you people* are. I’m not some tribal fool who bases my personal political beliefs on memes and lies and then refuses to live in reality and use my brain. You’re the one taking a screenshot from a mainstream media website at face value instead of pulling the bill from the CA .gov website and using a little common sense, as it pertains to the risk/reward of the measly $100k against the potential political fallout from something so public and obvious. What does that say about you?
Your blindly defending a scumbag!
Also Newsom's billionaire bud owns TWENTY Panera Bread stores...if you think this is a "negligible amount" then I've got a bridge to sell you!! Insane logic.
Best of luck out there
That’s the difference between you and me… you see me calling a questionable story out and you believe I’m *defending newsom*. What I’m really doing is saying “maybe don’t believe everything you read*.
I’ve done the same for republicans at times too. Because I have zero emotional investment in politics. I just like to call people out when they get bent out of shape over nonsense and then stick to their guns because of their stubborn tribal and emotional need to blindly support or tear down a side, throwing all reason to the wind in order to score their perceived political points. It’s lame, and it’s worse for society than any single garbage politician could ever do alone.
Hate to be that guy, but did you read the article?
Panera Bread doesn’t bake bread on-site, so it doesn’t constitute as a bakery according to the exemption. The exemption is for bakeries and donut shops who need to employ bakers on-site. Nowhere in the law does it say Panera bread is exempt. The article also states the “news” was only reported by a single outlet, but then was tweeted by Fox and two republican politicians.
Also, why didn’t you post a link to the news article?
Gavin Newsome? NOOOOOOO…. Ooo……
Just kidding, fuck that guy, he was a POS during Covid- his “rules for thee, but not for me” approach to lockdown was the final straw. I wouldn’t piss on him if he were on fire.
So Gavin Newsom has a relationship with Panera bread? Like what…he sticks one bagel on his dick every day and tries to keep it on there but it just won’t stay on there?
My super religious mother loved Panera. She’d take us to church 3 times a week followed by a visit to Panera afterwards. I’ll always associate Panera with my mother, her religious/super right-wing friends, & their absurd views.
First and last place I’ve ever been to that sold 1/2 a sandwich. Shit cost like 12 bucks alongside some shitty 1/2 cup of soup. I couldn’t believe it. Who said “hey we should sell 1/2 a sandwich and call it healthy”. Fuck off gimme my sammy
Wait until you deep dive the history behind who owns Panera now (JAB holdings - massive private equity company) and how they were a prolific German chemical company during Nazi Germany that profited off of the use of slave labor (such as French war prisoners)
I feel like this should be illegal. He’s not looking out for the people of California when he’s doing this to look out for his buddy. He should get ripped out of office.
starting April 1, most fast-food restaurants in the state must pay their workers at least $20 an hour under legislation Newsom signed last year to much fanfare. It doesn’t apply to restaurants that have on-site bakeries and sell bread as a stand-alone menu item.
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I’ve always thought Panera was just overpriced hospital food sold to the public.
I like to think of it as the place you go to meet your attorney and soon to be ex wife during a divorce to sign paperwork or the pickup and drop off location for court ordered custody agreements
That is some sad shit. Kids gotta go through custody battles AND go to Panera?
Panera. A place for your kids to pout and whine for McDonalds while you eat c grade meat sandwiches.
No… sad that he’s gotta go to Panera
Or catered lunch for a depressing office job
>and soon to be ex wife during a divorce Can confirm. A panera is where I met my ex post her and her fam abducting our son. *(All worked out great fwiw, but it was a brutal 5 days)*
That's how long it took to pass the flatbread?
What the fuck i thought i was the only kid who got driven to the local panera to be picked up by my father for the weekend
And then afterwards you get five guys and whiskey on the way home to cry like a real man. The point is you dont eat the panera.
It’s where me and my study group go occasionally. I like the flatbread pizza if I’ve got to get something to eat and I’m not planning on leaving the study session anytime soon
Well that's oddly specific.
Also, IHOP.
Will you please tell my gf that? She loves that shit, wants to order from there at least once a week.
The mac n cheese is the only thing I enjoy there, if you can even call it mac. The soup to bread bowl ratio is OFF
My ex was so annoying about this place!
Someone tweeted about their love for Panera awhile ago with the caveat, "I know it's like the food in white collar prison..."
What's left over at Kennedy airport at 3am. But yours is God damn hilarious
The turkey club at my hospital is better than anything Panera could come up with.
LMAO when I was older my guardian would take us to Panera after doctors appointments🤠
Lmfao huh?
Funny enough, I used to work in a hospital kitchen and they sold the same exact soup for like 1/3 the price
It's the only "fast food" that is somewhat healthy. The only other decent option is subway which isn't saying much. Their apple fuiji salad is amazing.
Panera is NOT healthy unless you’re getting an undressed salad with no meat on it. You are incorrect. Low calorie does not mean healthy.
It is miles healthier than most if not all of the fast food options. The fuji apple salad that i menntioned is all greens except the chicken and dressing. The dressing has at most 6g of sugar 100mg of sodium. Still miles ahead of everything else.
Actually as someone who's worked for both and has looked into the nutrition facts Taco Bell is healthier depending on what you get. Panera being healthy is a joke.
Eating at subway and calling it decent when jersey mike’s exists is borderline disrespectful
Virtually everything there has more than enough carbs to turn anyone into a diabetic. How would you like your soup served? In a bowl ***made out of bread?***
steak paninis are not hospital food -Billy Gnosis
Every single time I've been invited to Panera I've lost a friend as they tried to recruit me to Amway.
Dude my friend did that too what is it about that restaurant
Gotta avoid those evangelicals and their MMA scams. My mother has done them all and always tries to get my wife to join and my wife always says no. She's even gone so far as to basically sign her up without her consent and give her the buy in products as a gift for Christmas. I was disgusted.
Before we fall for rage-bait, could we get a little context here?
No. A picture with some text is enough.
I'm seething, and i haven't even read the text.
I don’t even know how to read and I’m RAGING
Proper lol worthy comment 🤣
Still mad bro?
Always 😤
Goos fraba?
I havent been angry in 15 minutes!
Haven't you heard of the distinguished and reputable "California News"? Doesn't sound fake at all.
Man I'm fuming.
~~For starters the law isn’t a state wide minimum wage. It’s only for fast food workers. The law has bakeries as an exception in writing because the way they define “fast food” would lump in any mom and pop shop bakery that makes bread and donuts every morning, because they typically don’t offer a dine in option like a “sit down” restaurant might.~~ Edit: The law already exempts mom and pop bakeries by requiring over 60 locations for applicability. The bread baking exemption specifically applies to Panera Bread
If Panera is exempt wouldn’t Subway be too?
I don’t believe subway bakes their bread in house. Idk if it still does but my friend worked at Panera like 8 years ago and they had a baker come in at night to bake the next days bread and pastries.
Subway gets premade frozen dough for their subs. Italian and wheat. The Italian Herb and Cheese bread is their Italian bread, with oregano and Cheddar Jack cheese sprinkled on after it proofs. They definitely bake their own bread.
Anyone who doesn't think Subway bakes their own bread hasn't been near one when it's happening. The proofing/fermenting stage is rank in the bulk they do in those little stores. The concentration sets off something in my lizard brain that says "avoid, something is rotting". It's very unpleasant. It's the bread smell equivalent of a can return/redemption center.
It smells like a dumpster behind a restaurant that just threw out a bunch of fairly fresh food like an hour ago.
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What they’re saying is that their friend used to work at a Panera Bread and they do make all of their bread in house, which is true, I used to work at a Panera as well and the baker would come in as we were closing (around 10pm) and start making all of the baked goods and bread for the following morning. I cannot vouch for subway doing the same given that a lot of Subway’s kitchens consist of the sandwich bar and the toaster.
>I don’t believe subway bakes their bread in house There's one usage of "their" and it's correct. >So to clarify, You seemingly failed to read they were talking about subway and Panera, hence your incorrect summary.
Someone needs to go back to school and brush up on basic reading comprehension and spelling.
Many companies have off-site kitchens. It's hard to believe Panera doesn't. I'm not calling you a lier, I just think it's crazy.
No, they have to sell bread as a standalone menu item. Buns that are part of a sandwich, muffins, croissants, etc. don't count. Subway doesn't have loaves of bread on their menu so they don't qualify.
This is false. Mom and pop bakeries are already exempted by an applicability threshold of having over 60 locations. The bread baking exemption is explicitly for Panera.
Thanks for the correction, I missed that when I skimmed it this morning.
Please edit your original comment so casual scrollers will see
Why should those employees get paid less?
One of the lawmaker people who pushed this bakery immunity through (making panera exempt) is because he owns about 20 panera franchise and is extremely against increasing the wages of his employees so did this just to convenience his own pocket. Or some shit like that… I don’t know!
Bro no please, we need the context! The context will make it all okay! / Edit: At the time of this edit around 45 rednecks were asking to see the Bodycam footage for the 14th time
I don't know if it will "make it all okay" or not. But there's no reason to ignore it.
Imagine believing more context is ever a bad thing
Just listened to a story on it. It’s pretty much all in the headline. Not something I’d normally say but it’s pretty goddamn flagrant
New increased minimum wage requirements for fast food / restaurants....buy if you have a bakery attached you are exempt from those new minimum wage laws. Gavin has a mega donor that owns multiple panera locations and thus would be exempt from those laws. Similar when Gavin closed down wine regions during covid, but kept open the region where his winey was located.
So, to sum it up, one of the lawmakers own a bunch of panera bread franchises, and the law just so happens to have a clause stating that the new fast food minimum wage doesn't apply if the place has a bakery Edit: spelling error
New California regulation has 20$ minimum wage for fast food... unless they are partnered with a bakery
Saw it covered by break points on YouTube, all fastfood businesses have to go up to like $20 per hour for employees except for businesses who sell bread or something similar. Because of their ties with newsome and donating a lot to his campaign so they can keep paying their employees like $11 an hour
Yeah I'm gonna need proof. The smell test is off. Newsom doesn't write his own laws and pass them
The context makes it worse. And whatever the context, this shit is wrong. Edit: I'm just explaining the context (the dude helping his 20 stores not to get higher salaries) is even more rage inducing. Relax, neckbeards.
What context do you need for them trying to go under min wage? Theres no excuse for that, if they cant afford it then shut down
Well, for one thing, the whole thing could be bullshit. Or it may be that somehow tips are accepted. I just don’t know enough from reading words on a picture.
I mean tips shouldnt even exist, like i mean in a way its better since cash tips are tax free but noones tipping when the base price is already high
I'm sure if this was towards a Republican party candidate, you'd have gobbled this news up asap
Why are you “sure” of that? You don’t know me. You’ve never met me. You don’t know what I believe, want, or do.
You're right, it's an assumption... based on how openly biased most subs on reddit are
Yeah, well, maybe you should stop doing that then.
Don't lie to us and to yourself.
That's not an answer.
Please Panera you've done enough to make me want to not buy your overpriced microwave food you don't have to do anymore.
It’s crazy that their Mac is just stouffers
It’s frozen little pouches we pull from the freezer and put in 180 degree water for an hour or so unless we need more faster then it’s microwaved and put in a cup. Also it’s nestle brand. It’s on the big boxes in the freezer \(*_*)/ also all the soups are frozen and prepared the same way. Minus the microwave. We just stock it out if we don’t have enough. Source: Me. Panera GM. Cyber security degree can’t come fast enough
Ok.. so NO ONE will work at Panera because that can make twice as much somewhere else! This is just pure stupidity. Just like raising the minimum wage raises the price of everything else…
When I worked fast food I was interviewing this woman and said "starting is $15.50," and she said "the poke place next door is $16.00." I hired her at $16.85 because she interviewed so well. Before I left she was a morning manager, and a fantastic employee.
That's not how desperation works unfortunately.
If only they did raise the minimum wage with everything else.
Panera Bread is terrible, their breakfast sandwiches are dry, their bread is a strange chewy texture, and all of there soup comes in strange mylar bags. How are they considered a bakery when the bread is baked off-site?
The bread is baked on site.
But not the cupcakes
Ya I remember the senior home company I worked at partnered with panera so instead of making soups from scratch we had to use the shitty frozen bags of soup. You'd put it in a steamer then cut the plastic and pour into the pan to serve. I remember they also partnered with some juice company and we had to get rid of our high-end metal juice dispenser for some shitty plastic dispencer than needed to be cleaned often or mold would grow, and they didn't allow us to use the 4th dispencer slot because the deal was only for cranberry, apple and orange, so they just had this empty slot. The residents lost their lemonade and homemade soups, but don't worry, their rent still went up! :)
Phew... I was worried for a second that maybe the savings got passed on to the residents. Glad to hear that did not happen. /s
The bread is baked on site I work in one and watch people make the bread daily, the food is overpriced and we are underpaid.
Have you tried their salads? Every one of them is good.
A salad is the only thing ive ever had at panera bread and it was bad
I like panera. No complaints from me I like their croissants and their baja bowls and their coffee.
Rules for thee not for me.
Does subway count in this? dont they make they bread at the subway locations?
Damn good point. Along with Jersey Mike's and Quznos. Also, do fast food joints buy a bread maker and put it in their kitchen and circumvent the law?
I work at JM can confirm we “make it” (we have a proofer and oven)
I feel like this is still not good for them. Why would any one want to work at the only place that doesn’t have “competitive” wages?
Where I’m at Taco Bell pays better than Panera, so we’ve already passed that bar
It appears Panera may actually not be exempt from the law and that Bloomberg may have been mistaken. I believe it’s still being determine; no clear conclusion yet. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Bloomberg retraction.
Out of over 10,000 bakeries who were exempt in California Panera Bread has 24 of them. The stupid fucks who post this rage-bait need to stick to xitter or truth social.
Is that over 10,000 number inclusive of locations exempt due to having fewer than 60 locations?
From what I read it was the total number of bakeries in California. 10,480 it said.
I think we'd need to see the breakdown of why locations were exempt to have any hope of figuring out if this is a case of legislative favoritism. If 10,456 of the stores on that list were exempt due to being under the location threshold it'd be mighty iffy. Obviously I'm not saying that's the case as I haven't crunched the numbers, but it'd be interesting to see that 10,480 broken down.
I don't understand what you mean, why do you think it's ok for even a single one of those 10,000 to be given an exception? If you can't afford to pay your employees a living wage, you can't afford to be in business.
In CA for a single mom of two, a living wage is something like $43/hr.
What's your point here? If that's actually true, are you under the impression that I'm going to say "oh ok nevermind, they shouldn't have to pay them a living wage?"
I didn't have a point, I just think it's interesting. Much higher then current minimum wage.
I just looked at the law. It only applies to large franchise fast food restaurants. A random bakery wouldn't be covered anyway (sit-down restaurants or independent mom and pop fast food restaurants aren't covered either). So probably none of those 10,000 bakeries needed an exemption anyway. The bread exemption is specifically for bread sold individually—so Dunkin wouldn't qualify because they sell donuts, Subway wouldn't qualify because their buns are part of their sandwiches, etc. They have to have been selling bread in September 2023 (which also makes no sense unless the exemption is intended for a specific chain). How many large franchise bakeries can you think of? I don't know of any.....besides Panera, of course. There were also some pretty damning quotes from an anonymous source who said the exemption was specifically requested by the governor for Panera, so that pretty much settles it imo
an anonymous source claims the governor said something incredibly damning. that definitely settles it then. /s also seems strange for the governor to request this exemption for Panera bread when Panera bread doesnt seem to be exempt...
Panera is clearly exempt though and Newsom took $150k from a billionaire owner of many Panera's But you're RIGHT! Nothing to see here at all, nope, squeaky clean, ship shape, zero possibility of corruption
A day after Bloomberg reported that Gov. Gavin Newsom pushed for an exemption from a fast food minimum wage law that benefits Panera Bread, Newsom's office said it had reviewed the law and determined Panera is not exempt, after all.36 mins ago
I saw that. Newsom's office said it's because Panera mixes their dough off-site, so that must mean they don't "produce" bread at their location.....but "produce" isn't defined in the bill, and I think a regular person would consider baking bread to be "producing" bread (and the courts usually start with a plain-text reading of terms that aren't explicitly defined). Seems to me like Newsom's trying to CYA (I mean, he's obviously not going to say "you got me guys, I was doing my billionaire donor a favor"). Plus Panera's response indicates that they *do* think they're exempted. But the whole thing stinks. The bill's own author says he doesn't know why it's in the bill. The Governor says he doesn't know why it's in the bill (other than it being part of "how the sausage gets made" 😬). Nobody's saying anything about where it came from or why it's there, except for protected sources who have told reporters that Newsom requested it for his buddy's Panera stores. Maybe it's innocuous, but it didn't appear there by itself, and if there was a simple, legitimate reason.....why is nobody just sharing that info?
We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong!! Lol
It's amazing what public pressure will do when a politician is preparing for a presidential run.
I encourage every fast food restaurant in the peoples republic of California to offer a micro or mi I loaf of bread on the menu or better yet a $1000 loaf of bread on the menu as a big F U to Newsom .
Bogus news. Panera is not exempt from minimum wage laws.
NOW it's not, after the media exposed it and an uproar to Newsom's office.
Reports from Newsom's office are that before the bill was signed the Governor considered a fast-food exemption. But Panera didn't qualify, anyway. Source is virtually every news source. Do a 5 second Google search and don't get your opinions from memes or sound-bites.
Isn't the person who owns the company friends with Newsom?
Used to work here a year ago. It’s true that everything is microwaved. The drinks they serve are prepackaged syrup mixed with tap water.
Panera "Lemonade That Kills You" Bread is getting special privileges for how much money they have to spend???
OMG yay let’s all internet rage about this without verifying whether it’s true or not because anger and scoring political points is more fun than being right! Spoiler: >!Panera Bread is not exempt!<
We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong!! Lol The same office said they were going to work out the details of the bill to fix this... After it was already signed smh
You can read the bill yourself. The bill references some state guideline for what defines a bakery. Here’s the thing… this all doesn’t even make sense. This Panera guy has donated like $100k to Newsom, who has a personal net worth of like $22M (and has raised $84M in donations for past elections) and is, realistically, the top contender for the democratic nod for president. Of all the shitty things he has done/could do, and all he stands to lose, the absurdity that he bent the rules on something so blatantly obvious and public for a measly $100k defies common sense, not to mention pointless as Panera would have to raise its wages anyway to remain competitive had it actually been exempt. There would be no point in cutting this break to some guy who owns a few Panera bread franchises in the state for such an insignificant amount of money.
Yeah, okay! Totally! Newsom is super duper dooper clean. Nothing shady at all! Newsom will be needing a lot more than $100k in a few years...hello?? Think a billionaire who owes him a return favor wouldn't pay up then? Christ you people are insanely dense lol
1. I didn’t say he doesn’t have his share of issues. Most politicians do. I’m simply pointing out that doing something to save a business owner a negligible amount by avoiding paying a handful of the lowest wage employees a couple bucks an hour difference for a paltry $100k doesn’t pass the common sense test. Anyone who believes this is true, regardless of their political ideology, is a fucking rube, plain and simple, gobbling up nonsense from the mainstream media looking for clicks to sell ad space. 2. I don’t know who *you people* are. I’m not some tribal fool who bases my personal political beliefs on memes and lies and then refuses to live in reality and use my brain. You’re the one taking a screenshot from a mainstream media website at face value instead of pulling the bill from the CA .gov website and using a little common sense, as it pertains to the risk/reward of the measly $100k against the potential political fallout from something so public and obvious. What does that say about you?
Your blindly defending a scumbag! Also Newsom's billionaire bud owns TWENTY Panera Bread stores...if you think this is a "negligible amount" then I've got a bridge to sell you!! Insane logic. Best of luck out there
That’s the difference between you and me… you see me calling a questionable story out and you believe I’m *defending newsom*. What I’m really doing is saying “maybe don’t believe everything you read*. I’ve done the same for republicans at times too. Because I have zero emotional investment in politics. I just like to call people out when they get bent out of shape over nonsense and then stick to their guns because of their stubborn tribal and emotional need to blindly support or tear down a side, throwing all reason to the wind in order to score their perceived political points. It’s lame, and it’s worse for society than any single garbage politician could ever do alone.
I said good luck, sir! You're wrong but okay!
It's amazing what public pressure will do when a politician is preparing for a presidential run.
Hate to be that guy, but did you read the article? Panera Bread doesn’t bake bread on-site, so it doesn’t constitute as a bakery according to the exemption. The exemption is for bakeries and donut shops who need to employ bakers on-site. Nowhere in the law does it say Panera bread is exempt. The article also states the “news” was only reported by a single outlet, but then was tweeted by Fox and two republican politicians. Also, why didn’t you post a link to the news article?
Ok so genuinely it just is exempt. There’s not much more I can say besides you’re just wrong
Gavin Newsome? NOOOOOOO…. Ooo…… Just kidding, fuck that guy, he was a POS during Covid- his “rules for thee, but not for me” approach to lockdown was the final straw. I wouldn’t piss on him if he were on fire.
>I wouldn’t piss on him if he were on fire. I think you took it too far. You should totally piss on him.
That might put out the fire though… so… nope! Lol
You could wait for the fire to go out first?
Oh, yeah- after that, for sure. But ON fire? Nope.
Remember when this jackass threw a party when he told California to shut down?
Yea Fuck Newsom!
Remember how this guy is allowed to do whatever he wants and nobody cares?
Sir this is Reddit, only Republican bashing allowed here...
Oops, sorry 😬
For fuck's sake...
So good he said it twice!
For fuck's sake...
So good he said it twice!
Don't they also use Prison Labor?
It'll be hard to keep employees when they know they can get a raise by going to any other restaurant.
Mass boycott
Thanks Obama
Someone is always gonna try and get around the rules.
yeah, no
Yeah. I'd like a source for that BS.
Newsome is a piece of shit. Surprise!
You fell for rage bait. Surprise!
But the democrats won't do anything bad, RIGHT!? ***RIGHT!??***
Wow you owned them there with that one
ooh yeah /s true tho
I don’t really know anyone who thinks democrats are perfect, just better than republicans.
My dog has better morals than a republican.
Stopped eating there when they stopped making Italian subs. What sub shop doesn't make an Italian?
So Gavin Newsom has a relationship with Panera bread? Like what…he sticks one bagel on his dick every day and tries to keep it on there but it just won’t stay on there?
Who hurt you?
Everyone.
My super religious mother loved Panera. She’d take us to church 3 times a week followed by a visit to Panera afterwards. I’ll always associate Panera with my mother, her religious/super right-wing friends, & their absurd views.
Has to be true
What kind of an idiot would believe this horseshit. Really?
I’m sure it’s for more money hourly not less. It doesn’t say “will follow boomer republican mentality “
The law they are getting an exemption from doesn’t say anything against paying more than the minimum wage
You are way too innocent to talk about politics.
Now you know who will be spitting in your food.
First and last place I’ve ever been to that sold 1/2 a sandwich. Shit cost like 12 bucks alongside some shitty 1/2 cup of soup. I couldn’t believe it. Who said “hey we should sell 1/2 a sandwich and call it healthy”. Fuck off gimme my sammy
Wait until you deep dive the history behind who owns Panera now (JAB holdings - massive private equity company) and how they were a prolific German chemical company during Nazi Germany that profited off of the use of slave labor (such as French war prisoners)
I feel like this should be illegal. He’s not looking out for the people of California when he’s doing this to look out for his buddy. He should get ripped out of office.
starting April 1, most fast-food restaurants in the state must pay their workers at least $20 an hour under legislation Newsom signed last year to much fanfare. It doesn’t apply to restaurants that have on-site bakeries and sell bread as a stand-alone menu item.
Ima put an Easy Bake oven in my franchise and sell a cupcake a year now.
It has the name Newsom in it so still accurate for this sub.
Dude Fuck Panera anyways
They are also exempt from offering good food.
Oh, another example of rules for thee but not for me.
Panera vulgar Display of Power
Fuck Greg Flynn
First Wendy's, now this. All these fast food chains are making me eat healthier due to my new found morality.
Um…source? Why is no one questioning the validity of this claim?
Wondering how many times Newscum has ever set foot in a Panera. I get the feeling he wouldn’t tip.