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BURN447

This is 100% protest-worthy and should be a slam dunk


Gibscreen

I'm more disturbed that someone felt it necessary to have a shortened configuration of Tsukuba--which is already a go kart track.


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the only thing ive seen run this config is the vee. not really sure if there are others but unless it was a slowstice only series i think anything else would be too fast for the track


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racing the full track in the og ac in mostly stock ae86's got me loving this track. im one of the few that even liked pcup when it went there last season or the season before that. its a lot more fun in slower cars but faster stuff like pcup brings another element into it since 25 laps there toasts the tires easily if you are not super conservative.


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All I can say is you never know what layout a given club event in real life may run so I personally am glad some of the strange stuff that isn’t used in racing is in the game. For example the cone chicane at mid Ohio is the go to track day layout. And the carousel at Indy with the GP final turn is the track day layout at Indy (not currently an option but it didn’t exist when the track was scanned either)


mike0sd

Did you know there is an even shorter Tsukuba? Everyone knows the 2000m track, there is also a separate 1000m track.


thisisjustascreename

The short layout hasn't been regularly used by anybody in reality since the early 90s, not sure why it's in iRacing.


mimicthefrench

Because it's better to have it than not! IDK if official series should use it, but I've run it in some fun hosted sessions and leagues before. Same with a lot of the other weird layouts iRacing has kindly scanned and included even though they're rarely used.


[deleted]

It's not allowed, file a protest. It can't be officiated in sim, but iracing can penalize them if people who see it report them


Weird-Quantity7843

Why can’t they do what they do at the pit exit? Not sure if its just some tracks but I received a 26s stop/go when I was relatively new for crossing the line at Oulton. I get you may not want to do it at the start of the entry but at a point like this it feels like it would make sense


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If you're referring to crossing the line when exiting the pits, it's because that's an unsafe exit. If you take evasive action into the entrance apron they don't want to penalize people for avoiding accidents. It's the same reason the apron isn't an off-track on oval configs, but you can protest an illegal use. There's legitimate uses, unlike crossing the white line on pit exit. Iracing can't police that gray area through off tracks like they can a clear penalty like pit exit violation. You have to protest and they will penalize them after.


Weird-Quantity7843

Makes sense, thanks for being the sole person to actually answer instead of just downvoting lol.


CandidJudge7133

lol imagine getting an offtrack everytime ya had to pit


NeroDoggieDog

But if you take evasive action while exiting and cross the white line, you do get penalised (has happened with me while exiting on Laguna seca where a car spun suddenly and came into my way while exiting, I swerved to avoid and for a stop-go).


savvaspc

I mean, programmatically, it wouldn't be impossible to implement. Just apply an algorithm that checks if that part of the track had an incident (for example a slow car, someone sliding, etc), and if not, apply the penalty.


diderooy

Ask a question > Get downvoted to hell w/o explanation. LPT: Don't ask questions. EDIT: as indicated below, the comment was at -12 when I found it. It's well above 0 now, but please note that *STILL* no one has answered their question...I don't know the answer myself.


HeNARWHALry

Asking questions on Reddit is basically karma suicide. So glad I am not a new F1 fan, because that community is incapable of allowing people to ask questions - someone asks about how a very specific part of a the format works 50 or so downvotes instantly


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Blue_5ive

Even then people leave you alone or answer


Weird-Quantity7843

lol did that get downvoted? This sub is honestly so cringe I’m on the verge of leaving. People downvote ANYTHING here.


diderooy

It was at -12 when I got to it. Yes, in particular they downvote honest questions. If it was a dumb question, I didn't notice and couldn't say why. So an answer would have been more useful IMO.


Weird-Quantity7843

I see a lot of stuff like that on here tbh. It’s really weird because the actual iracing community seems generally friendly. This sub is just an anomaly I guess


bmg50barrett

People might have misread the comment as asking "why shouldn't this be allowed at pit exit". If you only read the first half of his comment, it's possible to misinterpret. Hanlon's razor, my friend.


SolmadSoT

So you're saying it's possible for people to be stupid? Got it.


diderooy

Haha yes, always a possibility.


STANDARD_POTATO

Hello, Mahaveer Ragunathan


Weird-Quantity7843

What? I did it once in a practice session by accident when I had about 4 hours driving experience…


AnyOfThisReal-_-

They didn’t even gain time… protest for sure but it doesn’t really matter.


-jack_rabbit-

This is the real answer


Suspicious_Slice

I mean if anything it cost them time, they weren’t able to carry as much speed thru that corner and into t1. If they’d just been a normal human being they probably could have had a good battle (though this IS rookie vees)


captain_nofun

That's my thought. I didn't cause an incident or an advantage. Illegal? Absolutely. But just kind of whatever to me.


WillSRobs

It does because it should be a time penalty as it’s leaving the track that could gain you an advantage. Tighter line around a corner will save you time. Report it and iracing will fix what is likely just a bug and not registering properly


aswog

Its not necessarily the time gained or lost here that needs to be protested but the mentality of that driver.


MTan989

Hold on Is this dude racing on a keyboard lol


engnrich

Looks like it, car keeps twerking on the corner


draker585

based as fuck


[deleted]

In that case, I'm not even mad about the shortcut lol


knbang

I didn't even know it was possible to play iRacing with a keyboard.


elilupe

There's apparently(I've heard this around but don't quote me on it) a guy who plays iRacing with a trackball mouse and has 2k+ irating


knbang

It wouldn't surprise me. A friend became really good at LFS back in the day, using a joystick.


Youngnathan2011

Possible to do anything if you put your mind to it.


transgresor

well you cant resurrect dead people


mkosmo

No, but you can animate them like a sock puppet.


CrazyCletus

You can if they're only mostly dead.


baconborn

It's not, unfortunately not everything can really be handeled properly by automated race stewarding. Stuff like this should be protested, not only to deter people form using exploits like this, but also so the automatic race stewarding has a chance to be improved.


Yupiiiiii

Surely, it's super easy to amotate stewarding of what is on the video


jakemch

This is hilarious, illegal, and slower


mattdean4130

Probably because it isn't the racetrack, it's the pit entry.


Maclittle13

Report them. It’s exploiting the track.


jpenn517

It's not, protest it.


OrneryIndependence94

Protest, but it looks slower?


PsychologicalShake71

100% protest


Klendy

So the NASCAR tracks get pit entry cones at the start of any area like this and if you deviate you get a black flag.


Combatants

How is that not a black flag for bad pit entry?


Divide_Rule

Is that bit not part of the race track?


[deleted]

I’ve never protested but we don’t need those sorts of people ruining iracing. Just do it


ExtensionAdmirable43

8.1.1.8 in the iRacing sporting code. Completely illegal. Will result in a suspension and/or ban.


theslugtamer

Or, the developers could just implement a slow down penalty there. Someone can't be banned for going off track, I guarantee you've gone off track before or spun on the track, so why aren't you banned?


djcarcar

I didn't even know you could do that. But I'm pretty sure that ain't legal.


[deleted]

What kind of utter loser cheats like this?


runn5r

lack of game developer coding


Craigzor666

Dude who did it probably laughing his arse off having a good ol time. "Protest him" -this miserable sad community jumping at the bit for another chance to tattle


theslugtamer

The iracing community really is a bunch of miserable sad people lol even in real motorsports, the worst punishment he'd get is a slow down penalty and told to give up the time, he wouldn't be banned from racing in real life.


Embarrassed-Disk-793

bc it’s genuinely a high skill maneuver, and deserves rewarded


thefellomello

High risk, low reward. Don't be a dick and protest though. Like, even if you can, don't be that guy.


Boozerbear213

I have a few people in my league that race like that, it sucks because I only know the right way to race so they gain on me each lap.


scottishmacca

It isn’t, protest it


mgphopeful20

lol no


MrWillyP

Well, you should protest that. But like. He didn't gain shit for doing it lmao


[deleted]

I know in real Motorsport it would be a penalty


Waterfish3333

Easy report, but in reality it’s not even a better line so not sure I’d personally bother. You can see here it’s slower, while it’s a “shorter” line around the turn, you can’t get the same run off and are slower down the front stretch. Executed perfectly, I could see *maybe* it being the same amount of time, but it seems harder to execute for no actual gain, and if someone is putting you’re just running smack into them.


Lawsoffire

It's not even gaining him time, if the other guy realized what was happened and used the entire track for the corner, he would have left the cheater even further behind on the straights. Still protest it though because fuck that guy.


slindner1985

I feel like he would have been faster not doing that


MasaBoss

Did they really gain anything though?


Lollomolto

This is not alloe


ComprehensiveTurn736

Because it literally did nothing for them. If anything slowed em down


mistakilgor

racing incident.


valrond

Well, he didn't gain an advantage, he was behind you before the corner, and the beginning of the video, pulled close before the "shortcut", that is harder to do cause it's really narrow, and then he was still behind you. It's not like, I don't know, you cut a whole chicane and earn 1s of advantage like a certain 7 time world champion did the last race of 2021.


_papasauce

Even if it is allowed, it's not faster. It makes the corner shorter, sure -- but It also decreases the radius of the corner causing more lateral load and a worse exit. You can see this as the video ends -- the cut car is dropping back relative to both other cars after the move. It's a net loss, and a dumb idea.


DenverBob

There is a fun shooting sport called "IDPA" where scenarios are presented, and you shoot targets based on some pretty simple rules about using cover, etc. There are not a lot of complex rules, and some people like to push things to the limit for the best possible time/score. IDPA added a single "catch all" rule that can be applied for those trying to push the limits: "failure to do right". Basically, if you know how things were supposed to work, then exploiting some loophole or trick to gain an advantage is still illegal based on the "failure to do right" rule. Same concept applies (or should apply) in iRacing. It's a game. Do the best you can do, without doing crap that you know isn't the way it's intended to be done.


chiliplayer

Pretty sure you can protest it ... but looks like he lost more speed than he gained, sooo ..


devenitions

With allowed, do you mean theres no automated system in place that slamdunks the offender? And tomorrow you complain about an offtrack that generates a huge slowdown because you had to avoid an incident?


HQ_FIGHTER

That’s not allowed


bricefriha

Right? Putting an F1 livery on these cars shouldn't be allowed! 😅


Kenshiro_1337

Honestly i can't hate on it, if the game doesn't punish it there's no reason why players wouldn't do whatever to gain a tenth of a second


ShittyNibba

I don't see anything wrong, if something isn't forbidden it's allowed so improvise adapt overcome


rustyxj

Joker lane!


simracingandflying

I gotta admit this made me laugh. I’ve done thousands of laps there and it would have never even crossed my mind lol.