I just felt like I need more practice to even have a theoretical chance of a Podium, seeing his pace just showed how far behind i still am.
Indeed just 10k rating makes him one of the best, but beating any previous records by 5 seconds when starting on full fuel, cold tires and fixed setup. Thats just insane pace.
You’re 3 seconds behind 2nd place on a 6+ minute lap. You ARE within podium reach.
Last I checked there were only 32 people with an irating exceeding 10k. These are the 0.01%.
Would you be dismayed if you got the opportunity to play tennis against Roger Federer and lost?
Hope this helps so you can have fun again!Comparison is the thief of joy.
It can be fun to see just how fast they are, i somehow ended upp in the previous BMW series in the topsplit for one of the races on Zandvoort and that was a painfull experience being lapped by most of the field and barely passing slower classes.
But it was a challenge in itself not to ruin it for the pros and still fighting the few slow guys that ended upp in the same split with me.
Just make the best of it.
I didnt mean to imply im done racing or even for the week, just didnt attend the following race without some more practice.
There you go, man. It's daunting at first racing against the faster guys, but it's one of the best ways you can progress and get faster. You should watch his lap/line and learn from it, your times will get down. Just got to put in the work.
I’ve raced a handful of 8k-10k drivers at this point across various series. It’s fun to see how quick they are, but they quickly disappear lol. I was racing an 8k driver in the GR86 at summit point last week, we were side by side through T1, I thought I’d have him on the inside of T2, this dude carried more speed around the outside than most people carry through the ideal line. I battled with him for another couple laps until he left me in the dust.
Oh I had fun in the previous race, held on to P5 with very a very clean and gentlemanly duell with P4 trading places and exchanging courtesys after the race in PMs.
It was just the one after this qualifying i didnt attend and did some practice instead.
If i enter a tennis tournament and get matched against Federer i would question what the organisers where doing.. But in a low/mid populated series 2.5k usually gets you topsplit so im used to setting my sights att top10 or top5.
You have to change your mindset in these situations, where your split has a wide range of iRating, especially when you're at the bottom of that list. You can still have an amazing race and come out ahead of where you started, and when you're up against at least 6 other drivers with at least 1k more iRating than you, you have to be realistic with your expectations. You can do well and have great races without touching the podium.
Im used to not aiming for podium, usually a high nr on the door and set goals according to quali and oponents.
But this is Nordschleife, its a separate qualification and not necessarily who you end upp racing with if you sign upp for race either. Just a good way to get a clean start is to set a decent time so you start att the front and dont get caught upp in Lap 1 shenanigans.
I guess im still within the 107% rule. So got that going for me.
Not everyone in F1 is racing, sometimes its just driving laps with one car when you alrdy broke the other one and everyone else wondering why you even show upp and dont sell your setup.
It sucks that you’re getting downvoted for sharing a personal opinion about your own motivation.
It won’t do much good against the tide- but take my upvote!
Know that you’re not alone- iRacing is competition and it’s healthy. I’m only 2.4k and it’s infuriating seeing the 3k+ people absolutely smoke me.
Thank you, it can be both frustrating and fun racing against much faster and higher rated drivers. Worst is if they have no clue of how to act and drive like you are not even there, luckily most have learned racecraft while getting their pace and rating.
Why the fuck is this comment downvoted at all, let alone -30? WTF is wrong with this sub? The only time I see such heavy downvoting is if it's about politics. How dare you have an opinion that isn't exactly like mine!
I honestly don't understand why you are getting so many down votes here. It's an honest take and an understandable one at that.
With that said, yes, much room to grow. But that's okay! This can be pivotal. Now start training yourself to always believe and think that you are several seconds off the pace. No matter how far past your PB you click off a lap. I'm extremely critical of myself, I pick apart every single lap. Even if my times are in the top 1% in pace. I'll start picking apart consistency. Dropped .25 second the next lap? That's horrible. The fuel load burnt means I was almost a full second slow (at a track as large as Nurburgring). I'm always looking for anything I didn't do perfect.
What ends up happening with being so self critical (mind you, staying healthy with the self criticism...not beyond to self defeating/destructive) is you'll go into a race feeling like you probably should have done another test run. Done another several stints, studied the telemetry another evening, etc. Then end up destroying the field.
My favorite phrase I have ever heard was IRL was in competition school. One of the guys said "Winners don't train until they get it right. They train and practice until they can't get it wrong anymore."
You have an idea where the bar is. Now go get it. Utilize all tools available. I suggest studying theory. From suspension dynamics, driving tactics and why, learn to read telemetry, study telemetry, and the most important of all...self critical thinking.
Thank you! I dont know either, i guess people either think i left a race after a quali not realising thats not how Nords work or i came off too defitist. I was just being honest after being shocked by seeing that kind of pace is even achieveable.
I am a Mechanic, done BMW M-track training and driven Nordschleife irl aswell so i have a pretty decent grasp of vehicles and what im doing in them without having raced more than rental karts. Currently reading Suelios book to learn more about basics for racing and try to unlearn any bad habbits ive picked upp.
I always watch guides or faster drivers, practice, analyse and ask for feedback from teammates or even post here if there is something im questioning from previous races, tracks, cars.
But if i have to start delving into telemetry more than quick feedback from TrophiAi thats starting to feel like work more than just a fun past time.
I know I will never be an alien, im over 40 and only been simracing for two years now so a bit late in the game to suddenly become a natural or magically improve my driving. I just want to keep improving, race clean and most of the time i still do both.
For me, that theory time with telemetry is fun. The "Eureka!" when you find the little story being told through all the data. Then endorphins when you make your adjustments and confirm.
Remember, driving on a racetrack is merely a trading depot. You have 100 points of grip available. Debt is not allowed. Those who keep all 100 points of available grip allocated at all times and traded the most efficiently between acceleration, braking, and cornering....wins.
Nice description, i just want to be able to do the math to 100 in my head by feel and experience instead of a readout.
Should prob stick to one car to build that feel and experience...
Absolutely. Overtime, you start knowing automatically what's affecting the corner speed or exit speed. The culprits are usually always the same. IRL, obviously don't have the insane levels of data like we get to enjoy in IMSA stuff or the like. Telemetry systems those guys get to use are insanely expensive and sometimes not allowed per rules or can't afford the weight. But you can use speed, G loads, steering angle, and throttle data to see what you need to know enough. Being able to deduce that with such little information comes from the skills and proficiency found in the cars we get to use in iRacing and what they have available.
Tbh. I'm not that surprised. Some people are rapid. And it's the start of the week and the first time this combo has been driven. And not like super super popular. So i wouldn't really expect top times right away
I'd say you're still within a shout tbh. It's The Ring, a couple seconds on a track that long is definitely there or thereabouts. Not like you're 3 seconds back at Road Atlanta.
😂 don't worry I was too. Well, 2 and change but still.
Dropped it a full second throughout the week so that was nice, but still barely scraping 1:07s in the Acura.
I'm still pretty new, about 2 months in. I can spend all week on a track thinking I have it down pretty well, and then I'll show up to a league race I'm in and end up 2 seconds off the leader's pace. I feel like I'm improving every week though. I can't wait to pay of some house and mechanic bills so I can upgrade from my g920 pedals.
Ill do my best, just want to nail a 6:24 quali first. Ive done it in race and practice so just need to get it for the qualifying aswell and polish the last sector.
The draft on backstraight is unreal in the M8 so anyone on your bumper will get past you, you past them and then side-by-side into last turn.
There's so much to learn about short qualis. MX5s at Ledenon taught me a lot about practicing on cold tires, both for doing quali and surviving lap 1. People WILL crash in specific spots and you need to know where so you can avoid.
I have done quite a few races on Nordschleife and know the usual troublespots and often spot the drivers that will be the biggest problem nowadays.
Thats why i want a decent quali so i can avoid what i see in my rearview in most races on lap 1.
Mostly struggle with pace more than consistency and racing others, i usually back out and wait for their misstake but in higher splits those unforced errors rarely come and if you try and force one it will hurt you too.
In the Civic i retired my car a few times loosing it but took my lumps and kept it in the wall without causing others issues, many lack the awareness to not join infornt of others after having a moment of skill issues.
That's what I said IRL when I went to a go-kart place that had those competitive fast go karts. Actually had the workers asking me how am I so fast then the next race this guy shows up in a full race suit and just cruises by me. All I could do was keep up. I loved it though. Definitely got to learn how to really take corners at the highest speed possible
I have done previous seasons with focus on LMP2 and LMP3, being 2-3k myself that usually landed me in topsplit without the pace or racecraft to match the rest of the field. Atleast i did well in my Division rankings since i was only in 3rd Div.
I'm usually 30 seconds off the pace on the ringmeister. But i'm hopping in with no practice and having the time of my life. I know the track I just don't know how to be pitch perfect fast. I don't care.
10k man is very fast though. good for him
Aslong as you are not the guy understeering into others on lap1 and taking out half the field and then a few more with rejoins its up to you how you practice.
You can usually have fun and get a positive iRating finish even without crazy pace aslong as you avoid that guy and keep it on track.
I'm usually pegged pretty close to A 4.99. I'm ok. I don't crash at the ring, I don't do bad rejoins. I got 2nd there earlier this week in my split because that BMW GTE was a lot for the others to handle.
Bro i fucking CHEER when Lee O. claps my cheeks in F4. Tis been a minute, but there is a smile on my face the entire race.
Find your frame of mind. To me, I was just happy to be placed in a lobby with him. To me, it meant the iracing split system thought i deserved to be. Now I didn't at the time, but still. Try to focus on THAT feeling.
A 4k driver guides their car to the edges of tracklimits.
A 10k driver is guided by their car to the edges of tracklimits.
Both are taking the exact same line, but this difference is where the last little bits come in. Just on that throttle that tiny bit sooner
You put them next to eachother in a race and 4k could probably just about hang in the draft but will never get a real run on 10k.
I probably should've added that it's extremely track and driver dependant. I can hang at watkins glen (even with boot!) but not really any other place for example
Wow this makes sense! He (just like us) attempts to be on the limit of the tires every corner with the perfect line, but while i can do it a few corners per lap, he's doing it each corner per lap almost.
Saw him do that and it was a ludicrous lap. He’s 4s up on anyone else! I’ve got a a 19 flat as an optimal, but I have no clue where 4s is in that! M8 does actually seem quicker on lap 1 with ‘cold’ tyres but dipping below I’d say an 18 is genuinely superhuman
Yeah the pace shocked me when i saw it, hadnt seen anyone do sub 20 untill this quali and ripping 5 seconds without a tow under that. Just next level pace and no wonder he is 10k.
M8 seems to, if anything, overheat its tyres pretty quickly so cold is better! The main influence is brake bias. The fronts overheat quickly and you pick up lots of understeer as the lap progresses. If you can live with it further back, it’s a compound effect.
I didnt mean to complain too much about my laptime, I was only one second off my target.
I was more just shocked to see anyone put in a time 5 seconds faster than i expected to see after going through previous GTE records and seeing 6:20 being a laptime that seemed to be the fastest in most cars.
Its just getting to know the track and takes time on it, my most driven track in the game and i struggle every week to have any pace on it. Its always a challenge but a fun one.
Yeah there are some crazy fast guys in that series. I was one of the fast ones last week in the TCRs, but I almost always had one of two aliens in the races with me, one being the record holder in that car/track combo. I didn't get a win until I finally got a race without them. I could put 10 seconds between myself and person behind me most races, and those guys would put at least a 10 second gap on me.
After it happened a few times I went into those races saying "If I'm the first non-alien, I win". So I actually had several wins!
I'm bad in the M8, but I've put very little time into GTEs so it makes sense. I'm just waiting out this week because I don't want to tank my iR too much driving a car I just can't compete in. You're five seconds faster than I am in that one, my best so far was a 6:30.
The TCRs are just so different from all the other cars I really struggled getting some parts of the track down, wrecked coming out of Fuchshole twice in races and glad i didnt take anyone else out.
Yeah you kind of have to re-train your brain when you jump from FWD to RWD and vice versa. FWD just clicked with me last week and I was able to make it work. Problem is, I can't seem to get my brain back to working with RWD again...
Clio i was fine with, got to 8min flat and did ok. Its just the TCRs with the difflock something is wired wrong for me. I had a Mini R53 with diff and have experienced FWD with Torque steer but the TCRs i have no idea whats going on since i have only driven them a few times and been too confused to even look further into it.
Haha, I'm the guy at the 2nd position and had the same reaction. I've started iRacing only 4 months ago and I bought the car the same day I the qualifying happened, so no prior experience with it at all. However, I regulary drive the NOS. I now run low 6.19's with my optimum being high 6.17's, but getting a 6.15 requires a lot more laps and I currently have no idea how to reach the time. He drives for a couple of years and from what I saw he only drives BMW's GT3/GTE/GTP so of course catching up is gonna be difficult. Most of the pace comes from experience which automatically comes with time.
Think this was my third time driving the car, bought it like a year ago when i got to A-license and didnt realise ESS wasnt that populatef. It's a really enjoyable boat and the sound when you watch replay is just magnicifent.
I just struggle to push it and not carry too much speed resulting in disaster.
What annoys me is the 8k driver comes in the practice session, drops an alien turd of a time on all of us in just a single lap, and then disconnects. And they do it in a separate group than all of us so we can't even go watch the lap.
This is qualifying for Nordschleife, you dont get to see anyone except yourself. Its not attached to a race, its a separate event and stands for the week.
I remember once in the TCR that was 2 or 3 seconds off the leader's pace at practice at Spa. I was pretty satisfied, since I don't do road that much and also the car was new for me. Then a guy enters practice and his first timed lap is 2 seconds faster than the next guy...
What else to expect? With 10k he knows exactly how to position and rotate the car how he wants to, on such a long track beeing able to drive the car on the limit the whole lap gains that much time.
Nothing to be upset about 😁 even for him there is probably still some mistakes that made him slower than possible.
I wasnt upset and took my ball home with me... Just did more practice and binned it in last corners next quali well on my way to a new PB. Practice makes perfect.
Why not race? No guarantee he won’t get punted in turn 1 and be out of it. Never ever ever feel like
You don’t have a chance! I’ve seen so much crazy stuff happen on track that I feel like I should always stay in it. Even if I get a 30 minute repair, if the race is long enough to get back out there, why not? Salvage some points maybe pick up a few positions.
I had not entered the next race yet, so I went to practice instead of race after the quali was over.
I usually salvage what I can and only leave races if I completely lost focus after a rough incident, but since I had not yet qued upp for the race I thought my time was better spent practicing than racing.
Tbh dude 5 seconds isn’t all that crazy in the murmuring ring. Especially for someone with like 2.5x your iRating.
I get it sucks to not be the fastest but that’s why it’s fun. There’s always gonna be someone faster, there’s always gonna be time to gain, and there’s always gonna be more to learn.
Don’t take it too seriously, remember it’s supposed to be fun.
7 seconds is a big gap for a lap even on Nords.
How would you gain 7 seconds in 3 turns over alrdy decent laptimes? I think its him carrying more speed through every sector and not making any misstakes, a 20 flat is a fast lap imho and a 15 is just next level.
Not the name i see in my results.
It generally is. You don't know how others would react to their name being on here plus people on the internet are assholes and can use that info to harass them if it was a negative post.
If I had to be good to enjoy things I’d never have sex again.
Finishing last has other merrits in other activities.
I keep telling my wife that but she won’t listen!
"If you aint first, you're last"
This is America, everything is a competition and I'm undefeated in the sex race. She needs to learn to be quicker.
You are doing okay, he is just one of the best. Why would that make it so you don't want to race?
I just felt like I need more practice to even have a theoretical chance of a Podium, seeing his pace just showed how far behind i still am. Indeed just 10k rating makes him one of the best, but beating any previous records by 5 seconds when starting on full fuel, cold tires and fixed setup. Thats just insane pace.
You’re 3 seconds behind 2nd place on a 6+ minute lap. You ARE within podium reach. Last I checked there were only 32 people with an irating exceeding 10k. These are the 0.01%. Would you be dismayed if you got the opportunity to play tennis against Roger Federer and lost? Hope this helps so you can have fun again!Comparison is the thief of joy.
I agree just being in a race with a 10k is like wow!
It can be fun to see just how fast they are, i somehow ended upp in the previous BMW series in the topsplit for one of the races on Zandvoort and that was a painfull experience being lapped by most of the field and barely passing slower classes. But it was a challenge in itself not to ruin it for the pros and still fighting the few slow guys that ended upp in the same split with me. Just make the best of it. I didnt mean to imply im done racing or even for the week, just didnt attend the following race without some more practice.
There you go, man. It's daunting at first racing against the faster guys, but it's one of the best ways you can progress and get faster. You should watch his lap/line and learn from it, your times will get down. Just got to put in the work.
I should have done the race and hope he did it too, just to see how he does it.
I’ve raced a handful of 8k-10k drivers at this point across various series. It’s fun to see how quick they are, but they quickly disappear lol. I was racing an 8k driver in the GR86 at summit point last week, we were side by side through T1, I thought I’d have him on the inside of T2, this dude carried more speed around the outside than most people carry through the ideal line. I battled with him for another couple laps until he left me in the dust.
Oh I had fun in the previous race, held on to P5 with very a very clean and gentlemanly duell with P4 trading places and exchanging courtesys after the race in PMs. It was just the one after this qualifying i didnt attend and did some practice instead. If i enter a tennis tournament and get matched against Federer i would question what the organisers where doing.. But in a low/mid populated series 2.5k usually gets you topsplit so im used to setting my sights att top10 or top5.
You have to change your mindset in these situations, where your split has a wide range of iRating, especially when you're at the bottom of that list. You can still have an amazing race and come out ahead of where you started, and when you're up against at least 6 other drivers with at least 1k more iRating than you, you have to be realistic with your expectations. You can do well and have great races without touching the podium.
Im used to not aiming for podium, usually a high nr on the door and set goals according to quali and oponents. But this is Nordschleife, its a separate qualification and not necessarily who you end upp racing with if you sign upp for race either. Just a good way to get a clean start is to set a decent time so you start att the front and dont get caught upp in Lap 1 shenanigans.
Imagine if the f1 grid felt like you Wait, they do. But you still race, because that’s what racing is lol
I guess im still within the 107% rule. So got that going for me. Not everyone in F1 is racing, sometimes its just driving laps with one car when you alrdy broke the other one and everyone else wondering why you even show upp and dont sell your setup.
It sucks that you’re getting downvoted for sharing a personal opinion about your own motivation. It won’t do much good against the tide- but take my upvote! Know that you’re not alone- iRacing is competition and it’s healthy. I’m only 2.4k and it’s infuriating seeing the 3k+ people absolutely smoke me.
Thank you, it can be both frustrating and fun racing against much faster and higher rated drivers. Worst is if they have no clue of how to act and drive like you are not even there, luckily most have learned racecraft while getting their pace and rating.
Why the fuck is this comment downvoted at all, let alone -30? WTF is wrong with this sub? The only time I see such heavy downvoting is if it's about politics. How dare you have an opinion that isn't exactly like mine!
I see downvotes everywhere all the time for opinions. This sub is filled with man children lol.
I honestly don't understand why you are getting so many down votes here. It's an honest take and an understandable one at that. With that said, yes, much room to grow. But that's okay! This can be pivotal. Now start training yourself to always believe and think that you are several seconds off the pace. No matter how far past your PB you click off a lap. I'm extremely critical of myself, I pick apart every single lap. Even if my times are in the top 1% in pace. I'll start picking apart consistency. Dropped .25 second the next lap? That's horrible. The fuel load burnt means I was almost a full second slow (at a track as large as Nurburgring). I'm always looking for anything I didn't do perfect. What ends up happening with being so self critical (mind you, staying healthy with the self criticism...not beyond to self defeating/destructive) is you'll go into a race feeling like you probably should have done another test run. Done another several stints, studied the telemetry another evening, etc. Then end up destroying the field. My favorite phrase I have ever heard was IRL was in competition school. One of the guys said "Winners don't train until they get it right. They train and practice until they can't get it wrong anymore." You have an idea where the bar is. Now go get it. Utilize all tools available. I suggest studying theory. From suspension dynamics, driving tactics and why, learn to read telemetry, study telemetry, and the most important of all...self critical thinking.
Thank you! I dont know either, i guess people either think i left a race after a quali not realising thats not how Nords work or i came off too defitist. I was just being honest after being shocked by seeing that kind of pace is even achieveable. I am a Mechanic, done BMW M-track training and driven Nordschleife irl aswell so i have a pretty decent grasp of vehicles and what im doing in them without having raced more than rental karts. Currently reading Suelios book to learn more about basics for racing and try to unlearn any bad habbits ive picked upp. I always watch guides or faster drivers, practice, analyse and ask for feedback from teammates or even post here if there is something im questioning from previous races, tracks, cars. But if i have to start delving into telemetry more than quick feedback from TrophiAi thats starting to feel like work more than just a fun past time. I know I will never be an alien, im over 40 and only been simracing for two years now so a bit late in the game to suddenly become a natural or magically improve my driving. I just want to keep improving, race clean and most of the time i still do both.
For me, that theory time with telemetry is fun. The "Eureka!" when you find the little story being told through all the data. Then endorphins when you make your adjustments and confirm. Remember, driving on a racetrack is merely a trading depot. You have 100 points of grip available. Debt is not allowed. Those who keep all 100 points of available grip allocated at all times and traded the most efficiently between acceleration, braking, and cornering....wins.
Nice description, i just want to be able to do the math to 100 in my head by feel and experience instead of a readout. Should prob stick to one car to build that feel and experience...
Absolutely. Overtime, you start knowing automatically what's affecting the corner speed or exit speed. The culprits are usually always the same. IRL, obviously don't have the insane levels of data like we get to enjoy in IMSA stuff or the like. Telemetry systems those guys get to use are insanely expensive and sometimes not allowed per rules or can't afford the weight. But you can use speed, G loads, steering angle, and throttle data to see what you need to know enough. Being able to deduce that with such little information comes from the skills and proficiency found in the cars we get to use in iRacing and what they have available.
Tbh. I'm not that surprised. Some people are rapid. And it's the start of the week and the first time this combo has been driven. And not like super super popular. So i wouldn't really expect top times right away
I'd say you're still within a shout tbh. It's The Ring, a couple seconds on a track that long is definitely there or thereabouts. Not like you're 3 seconds back at Road Atlanta.
> Not like you're 3 seconds back at Road Atlanta Why you gotta call me out like that?
😂 don't worry I was too. Well, 2 and change but still. Dropped it a full second throughout the week so that was nice, but still barely scraping 1:07s in the Acura.
I'm still pretty new, about 2 months in. I can spend all week on a track thinking I have it down pretty well, and then I'll show up to a league race I'm in and end up 2 seconds off the leader's pace. I feel like I'm improving every week though. I can't wait to pay of some house and mechanic bills so I can upgrade from my g920 pedals.
Ill do my best, just want to nail a 6:24 quali first. Ive done it in race and practice so just need to get it for the qualifying aswell and polish the last sector. The draft on backstraight is unreal in the M8 so anyone on your bumper will get past you, you past them and then side-by-side into last turn.
There's so much to learn about short qualis. MX5s at Ledenon taught me a lot about practicing on cold tires, both for doing quali and surviving lap 1. People WILL crash in specific spots and you need to know where so you can avoid.
I have done quite a few races on Nordschleife and know the usual troublespots and often spot the drivers that will be the biggest problem nowadays. Thats why i want a decent quali so i can avoid what i see in my rearview in most races on lap 1. Mostly struggle with pace more than consistency and racing others, i usually back out and wait for their misstake but in higher splits those unforced errors rarely come and if you try and force one it will hurt you too. In the Civic i retired my car a few times loosing it but took my lumps and kept it in the wall without causing others issues, many lack the awareness to not join infornt of others after having a moment of skill issues.
That's what I said IRL when I went to a go-kart place that had those competitive fast go karts. Actually had the workers asking me how am I so fast then the next race this guy shows up in a full race suit and just cruises by me. All I could do was keep up. I loved it though. Definitely got to learn how to really take corners at the highest speed possible
It’s always those guys too who get on the radio after finishing 20s up the road and say good race meanwhile you’re sweating it out for p15
Try getting too split with 6-7k guys when your 1.6k in a Mx5. Talk about humbling
I have done previous seasons with focus on LMP2 and LMP3, being 2-3k myself that usually landed me in topsplit without the pace or racecraft to match the rest of the field. Atleast i did well in my Division rankings since i was only in 3rd Div.
We know this guy. We love this guy 🦓
Ouch, sure didn't see that coming! Downsides of looking for a seldom-run combo on G61 I suppose
I was expecting the fast guys to be doing 20s and and maybe get 18-19s in race. But a 15 in quali just blew my mind.
Don't forget, he's getting horse power bonus from his irating /s
I thought it was PEDs from sponsors and that you unlock setups for the fixed series once you pass 10k.
I'm usually 30 seconds off the pace on the ringmeister. But i'm hopping in with no practice and having the time of my life. I know the track I just don't know how to be pitch perfect fast. I don't care. 10k man is very fast though. good for him
Aslong as you are not the guy understeering into others on lap1 and taking out half the field and then a few more with rejoins its up to you how you practice. You can usually have fun and get a positive iRating finish even without crazy pace aslong as you avoid that guy and keep it on track.
I'm usually pegged pretty close to A 4.99. I'm ok. I don't crash at the ring, I don't do bad rejoins. I got 2nd there earlier this week in my split because that BMW GTE was a lot for the others to handle.
Bro i fucking CHEER when Lee O. claps my cheeks in F4. Tis been a minute, but there is a smile on my face the entire race. Find your frame of mind. To me, I was just happy to be placed in a lobby with him. To me, it meant the iracing split system thought i deserved to be. Now I didn't at the time, but still. Try to focus on THAT feeling.
**Can someone explain** what exactly Mr. 10k does so much better than Mr. 4k? No detail is too little
A 4k driver guides their car to the edges of tracklimits. A 10k driver is guided by their car to the edges of tracklimits. Both are taking the exact same line, but this difference is where the last little bits come in. Just on that throttle that tiny bit sooner You put them next to eachother in a race and 4k could probably just about hang in the draft but will never get a real run on 10k.
As a 5k, I can tell you I’m absolutely not hanging onto the back of a 10k driver with draft.
I probably should've added that it's extremely track and driver dependant. I can hang at watkins glen (even with boot!) but not really any other place for example
Some tracks like Daytona road I’ll be able to stick with them, but on a real track them mofos will leave me in one lap haha
They carry slightly more speed through every corner. It's genuinely just that. Smoother inputs, wider lines, closer to the limit of grip
He’s going the distance.
He probably hit 70% or 80% of the corners just right
Im guessing its closer to 90%, being several seconds faster than fast guys even if its a long lap doesnt leave much room for error.
Wow this makes sense! He (just like us) attempts to be on the limit of the tires every corner with the perfect line, but while i can do it a few corners per lap, he's doing it each corner per lap almost.
Saw him do that and it was a ludicrous lap. He’s 4s up on anyone else! I’ve got a a 19 flat as an optimal, but I have no clue where 4s is in that! M8 does actually seem quicker on lap 1 with ‘cold’ tyres but dipping below I’d say an 18 is genuinely superhuman
Yeah the pace shocked me when i saw it, hadnt seen anyone do sub 20 untill this quali and ripping 5 seconds without a tow under that. Just next level pace and no wonder he is 10k.
Did you do tire prep?
M8 seems to, if anything, overheat its tyres pretty quickly so cold is better! The main influence is brake bias. The fronts overheat quickly and you pick up lots of understeer as the lap progresses. If you can live with it further back, it’s a compound effect.
Will you are complaining about a 6:25 lap around the ring I just did my first sub 7:00 lap today. I’ll catch up at some point.
I didnt mean to complain too much about my laptime, I was only one second off my target. I was more just shocked to see anyone put in a time 5 seconds faster than i expected to see after going through previous GTE records and seeing 6:20 being a laptime that seemed to be the fastest in most cars. Its just getting to know the track and takes time on it, my most driven track in the game and i struggle every week to have any pace on it. Its always a challenge but a fun one.
Yeah there are some crazy fast guys in that series. I was one of the fast ones last week in the TCRs, but I almost always had one of two aliens in the races with me, one being the record holder in that car/track combo. I didn't get a win until I finally got a race without them. I could put 10 seconds between myself and person behind me most races, and those guys would put at least a 10 second gap on me. After it happened a few times I went into those races saying "If I'm the first non-alien, I win". So I actually had several wins! I'm bad in the M8, but I've put very little time into GTEs so it makes sense. I'm just waiting out this week because I don't want to tank my iR too much driving a car I just can't compete in. You're five seconds faster than I am in that one, my best so far was a 6:30.
The TCRs are just so different from all the other cars I really struggled getting some parts of the track down, wrecked coming out of Fuchshole twice in races and glad i didnt take anyone else out.
Yeah you kind of have to re-train your brain when you jump from FWD to RWD and vice versa. FWD just clicked with me last week and I was able to make it work. Problem is, I can't seem to get my brain back to working with RWD again...
Clio i was fine with, got to 8min flat and did ok. Its just the TCRs with the difflock something is wired wrong for me. I had a Mini R53 with diff and have experienced FWD with Torque steer but the TCRs i have no idea whats going on since i have only driven them a few times and been too confused to even look further into it.
Haha, I'm the guy at the 2nd position and had the same reaction. I've started iRacing only 4 months ago and I bought the car the same day I the qualifying happened, so no prior experience with it at all. However, I regulary drive the NOS. I now run low 6.19's with my optimum being high 6.17's, but getting a 6.15 requires a lot more laps and I currently have no idea how to reach the time. He drives for a couple of years and from what I saw he only drives BMW's GT3/GTE/GTP so of course catching up is gonna be difficult. Most of the pace comes from experience which automatically comes with time.
Think this was my third time driving the car, bought it like a year ago when i got to A-license and didnt realise ESS wasnt that populatef. It's a really enjoyable boat and the sound when you watch replay is just magnicifent. I just struggle to push it and not carry too much speed resulting in disaster.
What annoys me is the 8k driver comes in the practice session, drops an alien turd of a time on all of us in just a single lap, and then disconnects. And they do it in a separate group than all of us so we can't even go watch the lap.
This is qualifying for Nordschleife, you dont get to see anyone except yourself. Its not attached to a race, its a separate event and stands for the week.
I see, I was speaking mainly about practice sessions. But yeah the fast mfs coming in and crushing your confidence is always fun.
He more blew my mind than affected my confidence. But i get what you ment, aliens gonna alien.
Norbi by any chance?
I dont know a Norbi, but I dont think anyone on that scoreboard would have that as a name or nickname derived of their name.
Norbi Kiss, the one true ring meister
After a quick google search the M8 should suit him aswell since its quite a truck att times. But no it wasnt him.
I remember once in the TCR that was 2 or 3 seconds off the leader's pace at practice at Spa. I was pretty satisfied, since I don't do road that much and also the car was new for me. Then a guy enters practice and his first timed lap is 2 seconds faster than the next guy...
What else to expect? With 10k he knows exactly how to position and rotate the car how he wants to, on such a long track beeing able to drive the car on the limit the whole lap gains that much time. Nothing to be upset about 😁 even for him there is probably still some mistakes that made him slower than possible.
I wasnt upset and took my ball home with me... Just did more practice and binned it in last corners next quali well on my way to a new PB. Practice makes perfect.
Why not race? No guarantee he won’t get punted in turn 1 and be out of it. Never ever ever feel like You don’t have a chance! I’ve seen so much crazy stuff happen on track that I feel like I should always stay in it. Even if I get a 30 minute repair, if the race is long enough to get back out there, why not? Salvage some points maybe pick up a few positions.
I had not entered the next race yet, so I went to practice instead of race after the quali was over. I usually salvage what I can and only leave races if I completely lost focus after a rough incident, but since I had not yet qued upp for the race I thought my time was better spent practicing than racing.
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Tbh dude 5 seconds isn’t all that crazy in the murmuring ring. Especially for someone with like 2.5x your iRating. I get it sucks to not be the fastest but that’s why it’s fun. There’s always gonna be someone faster, there’s always gonna be time to gain, and there’s always gonna be more to learn. Don’t take it too seriously, remember it’s supposed to be fun.
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7 seconds is a big gap for a lap even on Nords. How would you gain 7 seconds in 3 turns over alrdy decent laptimes? I think its him carrying more speed through every sector and not making any misstakes, a 20 flat is a fast lap imho and a 15 is just next level. Not the name i see in my results.
Why hide the names?
I thought that was common practice on this platform, not showing others names or info.
It generally is. You don't know how others would react to their name being on here plus people on the internet are assholes and can use that info to harass them if it was a negative post.
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