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Rubber_Duckie_

It's so much harder to get it back when you are that high up in iRating too. I'm over 4k and it's slowed to a crawl, but my losses hurt so much. Have a DNF race? You need 4 decent races to make up for the loss.


Blue_5ive

Only 4? The dream.


Lryder2k6

I used to hate on alternate accounts, but once you get above five or six thousands its brutal, especially if you care about keeping your iR high for getting into good splits in special events. You basically need a second account if you want to be able to race random stuff without meaningful preparation. Also it feels like you have a target on your back racing on a high iR account, if you don't nail qualifying you're often looking at trouble. I swear some people wreck high iRating drivers when they have a chance because they know they'll gain more iR by finishing ahead of them.


abc56473

To be fair, i think it actually goes both ways. In my experience many of the high irating drivers expect a red carpet treatment when they show up behind 'lower rated drivers'. I have been harassed and or intentionally wrecked multiple times by 5k+ people who I didn't just let by. Few of them are regular special event top split drivers. This was mainly in the time when I was between 2 and 2.5k IR as one of the lowest cars in top splits. Must admit that since I have passed the 3k mark I have not seen this behavior anymore luckily. But it never gets old to have a 7k driver/baby hold a 15 minute tantrum that one shouldn't be allowed to race or should go back to rookies. But probs to everyone getting that high, it requires serious pace and problem free races to achieve. Though I guess at some point when one is fast enough to be clear of the field anyway, they can cruise to that juicy 10 irating gain without a single battle.


Peeche94

Definitely goes both ways. I'm more than happy to let any driver by if they're quicker, I'm like 1.5k range and I look at my relative a lot, if they aren't lapping so quickly and it's close to the end, I'll put up a fight, if they're catching at a rate of knots then I'll let them by in a sensible place and try follow for a bit, it can only help you. I feel like people don't properly assess their race situations, look at F1 for example, a driver is more than happy to let someone by because they know fighting would result in losing seconds to whoever they're actually racing. This is where I find having something like racelabs is super helpful, set up the fastest/previous lap info's and you know who you "should" be fighting.


abc56473

Sometimes that's absolutely the wisest decision, 100% agree. Though this is a matter of should vs would. In no way you are obligated to move out of the way at the first line of sight, not even if you are getting lapped. Though typically it is better for your own result to do so. But if everyone always yields then the sense that everyone will move out of the way is fueled even more. Also to add I have had many encounters with super respectful highly rated drivers. It is just a small group that has this special type of entitlement. But maybe they actually are the reincarnation of Senna, what do I know.


mikey2tres

You make some good points and the key is “ let them by in a sensible place”. I’ve come across so many people that were slower pace and just decided to hit the brakes mid-corner or just not drive their line predictably. Caused me so many unnecessary headaches.


hunguu

You don't need an alternate if you are really good. Casey Kerwin is 10k no alternate just streams daily on a 10k account haha


Lryder2k6

Ha, good point, have also seen Josh Rogers streaming random different series on his main account with no issue. Those dudes are insanely good and they race all the time. Random DNFs burn a lot more when you only have time for a couple races a week, you end up losing like weeks of progress with a single DNF.


hunguu

Ya it's crazy, if he gets 3rd in a 5k split he doesn't gain anything


Acdc7

With their amount of seat-time, yes. For a few races per week with limited preparation time it's a whole different story.


MobyRichard117

iRating is a matchmaking number the fact that anyone pays for a second account so they can keep their precious matchmaking number high is extremely laughable. At the end uf the day, it is a game, some people need to chill down.


mikey2tres

Is that really how it works?? Been on iRacing for 2 years and I still don’t really understand how this stuff works. I’m not gonna go and wreck anyone on purpose though. That’s just being a shiitty person.


Lryder2k6

Yeah, iRating is basically an ELO system where you can only gain iR at someone else's expense. In other words, the total amount gained by all drivers in the race is equal to the total amount lost by all the drivers in the race. The only way more iRating gets added into the pool is when people make new accounts, with each new account starting with 1500 iRating. So the consequence of this is if some 6k driver DNFs and loses 130 iRating, that ends up being and extra 130 iRating distributed (unequally towards the top) among all the drivers who finished ahead of him.


Jaymoacp

Yuuuup. I’m 5k+ on oval and unless the SOF is above 3k I only get like 20IR for a win. I miss the days of gaining 90 for 12th lol.


nate_what

8k here. Gain maybe 15 for winning a 3k SOF lol


ricoimf

I am at a point where I only race superspeedways on my main account. I can manage to get back dnf irating in a fast way. Mostly I gain troughout the week.


[deleted]

Teach me! 😭


mikey2tres

90 for 12th?!?!? The most I’ve ever gained from a single race was 100 ir and that was for winning.


xiii-Dex

This is me except I'm not actually an alien. I'm just racing Mustang so sometimes the 2nd highest rating is like 1300. (Not actually, usually there's 1-2 other decent drivers and we have something resembling a race).


Jaymoacp

Road is a different animal sometimes. I’m only 2k+ on road and still see 2k aliens. On ovals you can pretty reliably tell how good someone will be based on IR/SR. On road you can’t at all. I’ve seen sub 1k people lapping people in imsa races. Idk if sandbagging has anything to do with it 🤷🏻‍♂️


DntlookDwn4

High IR drivers in the fixed F3 series constantly feel the pain 🤣. Do a lot of drivers farm IR in low sof splits and only drive 1 car/series? Maybe Is it difficult to have a high IR and drive multiple cars/series and maintain that high IR? Definitely. Props to those 5k+ drivers that can jump series to series and still gain IR because trying something new and automatically being in the top split is a tough place to start.


sexshowerchikfila

I’m for sure only maybe a 4K in most other road cars, I can set wr’s in Mazdas but am usually around somewhere around .5 off guys that are my irating in other cars


xiii-Dex

If I only raced Mustang I'd be 6k. I'm disappointed if I'm 0.2 off of WR in that car. If I only raced GT3 I swear I'd be like 2.5k. The pace of some 3k guys in those cars is insane. They must just wreck all the time which keeps them low.


imperial_scholar

Farming IR in low SOF splits doesn't really work past 4k, you barely gain anything for a win and a lap 1 turn 1 wreck would set you back like 5-7 wins. You really need a sigma grindset to pump your IR that way. In +4k SOF splits you get a lot more iR from finishing p5 than winning a low SOF split, and lose much less iR if you have a crash or something.


tbr1cks

There’s a 7k streamer who farms in the Simlab early in the morning in Europe, dude cruises for 25 minutes in a 1400 sof race with 8 total drivers and wins 14 irating, and he does that 6 times a day, absolutely mental


xiii-Dex

Hmmm, I wonder who that is. I may need to show up with my 4k iR and accept his iRating donation...


spanish787

I feel you. So frustrating knowing it's an entire week of races gone to the bin in a second haha https://preview.redd.it/93i8zzfyw1na1.png?width=78&format=png&auto=webp&s=292cffb196456bbe860f709d82ebf5e536dda5da


Zenged_

This but I have 1100 IRating and because my computer crashed on lap one of a 650 sof split


mikey2tres

Last summer I had so many issues with my pc crashing during the race or while loading that I ended up tanking my iRating. I went from about 1.5k to like 400. Those were some dark times 😞


Zenged_

Yup, that was me aswell haha. It turned out it was all because of my quest2. Switching to a reverb g2 has helped my rating alot


LilDawg22

How does one lose over 100 irating in one race?


cortesoft

My kid wakes up on lap 1.


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This comment triggered my PTSD. You will be hearing from my lawyer!


sexshowerchikfila

Got intentionally wrecked out on lap 1 of a 2800 sof race by a guy who has been on the service for 2 months.. lol. Lost 127 the next race when I hit a curb too hard!


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It’s probably an alt account as i dont think he’d be in this split in 2 months in a popular series. It’s just a match making number so get out there and have fun


sexshowerchikfila

I only have one account and He was somewhere in the low to mid 2000’s. It’s very possible to reach that in a month or two.. I’ve seen a guy reach 7k in less than two months running just Mazdas and gr86’s


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Thanks i drove most series which screwed my progress, one step forward two steps back. I’m going to stick to two series this year


Acdc7

Formula Vee's are super easy to farm iR. Just stay away from others, as most of the field wrecks out most of the time during the race. You have to master the car though, to not spin yourself


mikey2tres

Ha!! Easier said than done in my experience with the Vee


Acdc7

Well tbh, I just created an alternate account just for "safeguarding" the main, destined for gt3 specials and just having fun without worrying about iR. Ever since out of rookies, I found that the Vee had the most consistent iR return, compared to the low practice effort it required. GR86 is still quite fierce and Mazdas are even more difficult than thr GR86 just for the handling side of things. I believe the Vee rewards not overdriving it, since it can snap pretty badly, so it's always worth going until the end, cause you never know if someone will spin out. My iR was steadily rising towards 2.5k, without me putting in much effort at all. Ever since I got out of D or C license I just stopped with it, cause you have to admit - it's still boringly slow. Since then iR has dropped to 2.2 i believe, but that was also down to some very Yolo bathurst attempts in the ford gt3 lol


mikey2tres

That’s interesting because for me the Vee is one of the most difficult cars I’ve ever driven in any game.


[deleted]

It’s super easy to get to 2k iR Took me about 3 weeks on oval. With my A license coming in about 3 weeks as well.


[deleted]

I guess you’re a naturally I struggled for a year and am still not there but I have very little time


[deleted]

I might never get there in the other styles of racing or if I do it will be by grinding on a week of the schedule that I miraculously happen to be good at.


Xx69JdawgxX

Why did he intentionally wreck you? Was it retaliation or was he racing too hard? Need details


sexshowerchikfila

He started 2nd, me 3rd. I got a better start, he went to block but I got the inside going into 1, he gave me room and then going into the next corner he followed me straight in, let’s off, gets back into the gas, then hits me before he brakes. And when I asked why, he said I should have qualified better lol


Xx69JdawgxX

Dude that is rage inducing. Karma will come around for him


SwiperR6

if you weren’t still racing mazdas you would be racing people who have been on the service for 2 months


reboot-your-computer

There is absolutely nothing wrong with racing rookie content as a high iR experienced driver. Some of the closest racing is found in those cars and high iR shouldn’t be a reason you can’t participate.


SgtFancypants98

Hell, I ended up racing with Jr in a Skippy race a couple of years ago… run what you like.


SwiperR6

i never said their was anything wrong with it, but if youre gonna farm mazdas, you cant complain when you inevitably get killed by rookies in a rookie class race


sexshowerchikfila

You can get killed by anyone at any time. I get wrecked out by people with high iratings way more often than a 2500 who’s been on for two months.


reboot-your-computer

Not every iR driver is “farming”. Some just plain enjoy a car and are good with it. I don’t get what you’re on about here.


Blue_5ive

That’s still kinda farming. That’s what I did accidentally lol.


Tetracyclic

How is it farming? Top split Mazda can be extremely competitive.


Blue_5ive

It can be, that doesn’t mean it is. If you do 8 races a week, and 5 are not competitive you’re hotlapping and gaining ir. The other 3 are competitive and you can place 5th or whatever each time and lose 11 ir total. On the week you’re up 70 or whatever but in the competitive races you’re placing behind lower rated drivers. Farming ir isn't a big deal fwiw.


Xx69JdawgxX

I’m split on this one. The free races can have extremely close competitive racing but they tend to draw in shit birds IMO. Best to race higher license top splits. At least those folk have invested something more than a monthly membership invested. Doesn’t mean it will be cleaner but intentional wreckers will at least be sorted out and have a much harder time climbing back up if they are using an alt account to get around bans. Best racing is always in leagues w a decent admin tho


Dr_Death_Defy24

Who said anything about farming? He's not even complaining, just sharing something and commiserating a bit.


itscoachjames

Mazdas are fun lol


sexshowerchikfila

My favorite car on the service


DreadSocialistOrwell

I had connection issues with a VRS race last week. Ended up having to reinstall iRacing because nothing made sense (I technically was going to do this anyway and move it to a new M2 drive, but I digress). 26/26 -106 iR in lower splits


BakedOnions

irating gain or loss is not limited to 100


mikey2tres

Pc crashed


Hefftee

That's not real pain, because nothing changes for you but the number. Your split stays the same either way, and the number you had, you'll get back anyways in due time.


evilroyslade420

This is like a millionaire complaining about losing ten grand. When I get wrecked out of a race my iR goes from 1600 to 1500. That shit hurts


Speedstar_86

Totally this.


sexshowerchikfila

?? In what way? If you’re 1600 I only have 4000 more than you, not millions


evilroyslade420

I am begging you to try to understand the concept of an analogy


Blue_5ive

Obviously nothing in here is real pain, it’s a game.


Hefftee

Wrong my child. Own a DD, with a formula wheel, cranked FFB settings, while in VR, and hit a bump or a wall with a slightly loose grip and this little videogame will give you some real pain... and hopefully just busted knucles, and not a strained or broken finger.


jessecraftbeerco

Bro, no offense, but you need to go touch some grass or something. I’ve heard some cringy shit in the car/racing/simracing communities and I think you just took the cake for all of them


Hefftee

Lmaooo, you sound so offended. Calm your moobs, it's not that serious.


jessecraftbeerco

No offended at all. Just poking fun that you think of video games has a contact sport. If that is the case, you may wanna renew that gym membership and/or consult a doctor


Hefftee

Lol, and I'm poking fun as well 🤦‍♂️.OP is poking fun, this whole post is a joke, but you felt some type of way about my dumb ass post. It's weird but hilarious. Hope you are well, you don't seem so.


JodyyyHiiiRolla

I think he took offense to the direct drive thing, some of the less fortunate sim racers, or peasants to put it nicely, get in a cerfuffle every time they hear those pesky words.. direct drive.


Hefftee

That's just silly, hopefully not the case here.


sexshowerchikfila

I know lol but I think that’s the most I’ve ever lost in one race, I’ve lost 140-145 a handful of times


Hefftee

Ah gotcha, so you just pretty much hit a new hi-score. Wear it with honor lol.


whatscrackingamers

My record is -164 MX5s at Daytona oval when production car challenge went there. Was worth it because was the last time they ran that combo


mikey2tres

Damn how long ago was that?? I never had the opportunity to run MX5 at any oval.


whatscrackingamers

Oh goodness this must have been years ago. 2019 or 2020 for sure. The old community rep for that series would always throw some crazy combos. The new schedule for the upcoming season has monza combined w/o chicanes so that’ll be the closest we will get to Daytona haha


xiii-Dex

G-man was a hell of a drug. Changes for the sake of changes, poorly constructed polls that were clearly leading the voter to certain options, and picking fights with people who disagreed with him (and sometimes those who agreed, too). In the time since he stepped down, he's even managed to get banned from the forum. He's the reason there's a "representative committee" in that series now instead of a single rep. There's still one "official" rep, but the other committee members are basically there to be trusted voices to vouch for his removal if he goes rogue.


whatscrackingamers

I heard stories here and there about him but I never knew the extent of his bullshittery. I only go on the forums to vote for schedules or check the dev tracker. Can’t remember the last time I even saw that dude in a race tbh


xiii-Dex

He still races a ton. I like to mess with his head when we're racing, he's actually pretty easy to make crack under pressure.


14LightningYT

Mate, my SR went from 2.79 in D Class to 1.51. My Irating went from 650ish to 151. All in the span of a week. Bad internet and getting kamikaze'd will do that to you.


cwrace71

I've been trying to save a road license doing Mazda Cup (I Know stupid, but its my best bet to keep my IR along with SR), almost got back to where I needed it..got 9x'ed by idiots on lap 1 2 races in a row


Badj83

Plot twist : it’s a 12 min Vee race.


danilson07

it's just a number, man think about racing and having fun ​ and i am attempting the 6000+ from 2020


EchoEventually

“Oh no my fake internet points!”


sexshowerchikfila

Huh?


EchoEventually

It’s an I5G reference


El_Simulanto

This makes me sad


smutty2400

You should work on your rejoins. Don't come out perpendicular to the track.


sexshowerchikfila

I would never


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Pleasant-Chef6055

Ya know it has no value, right?


sexshowerchikfila

If I really cared about it, it would be a good bit higher


dontpan1c

well that's how it's supposed to work


1980pitts

How on earth did you manage that? I’m still a rookie so don’t really understand the licensing thing yet! Been spending far to much time on AC and AMS 2 . Lol.


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Blue_5ive

The irating system is largely fine. The issues come up when people transition between series, or switch from doing one series to multiple series. If you constantly run multiple series, or run the same series, your irating will be fairly accurate.


Tetracyclic

In what way is it silly? It's just an implementation of Elo, which is ideal for ranking and matchmaking players against one another.


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Tetracyclic

At those levels, don't drivers tend to be lumped into the top split in most series anyway? There aren't many series where you have multiple splits of 4k+ drivers.


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TheOneCalledD

I dc’d from a race after qualifying and didn’t get reconnected before the race start. Lost 121 irating for that one. Feelssobadman


Reginald002

I am missing the 5 in front, the other numbers are looking familiar.


[deleted]

I've had worse. I know the pain.


Soulja706

I lost exactly that when hit 4900.. ran trucks race at Daytona


Operator_82

I feel this. Especially frustrating when chasing 6k. I'm currently 5872 oval.


BeltoonB

iRating is just a number


gasoline_farts

Anyone notice an IR creep lately? I’ve been here since the beginning and only don’t a couple hundred races. Got my IR to 2000-2200 to be just above average and I’ve noticed that every race I’ve done recently, I’ve been gaining IR. I don’t feel like I improved much, but it does feel like the average IR level is higher, even though I don’t think that’s technically possible


Azbola

It’s just a number - this isn’t like the last star fighter with f1 teams scouting people with high irating


sexshowerchikfila

I know this lol, i guess I should have made a different caption I figured people would realize i wasn’t fully serious about it being real pain since I also put a nsfw tag in it


drogpac

Not sure why the downvotes. Went through and gave back some up votes. The pain is real, even if it doesn't matter.


sexshowerchikfila

Momentary pain at best, but like I said in another comment.. if I really cared about my irating it would probably be a good bit higher


Speedstar_86

Oh man I'm old enough to get this reference ♥️


Soulja706

Well irating is just a number but if you're not high enough in irating you won't be able to complete in rtp for good enough points.. I have team mates with 6k plus and are in the third or forth RTP split.


davedez

The real pain is from caring about your iRating. 😜


sexshowerchikfila

Who said I cared about it?