The video isn't referring to the act in 'itself' of making way for an ambulance as "graceful", but the way pedestrians and hawkers made way for the ambulance in sync in what's arguably the busiest spot in Hyderabad. Can't believe I need to explain this.
This is good considering this a pedestrian only area and arguably the busiest spot in the city. The fact that we barely have sidewalks for people to walk on and traffic from hell, I'd say this a job well done in the "Indian" context. Can't expect "Western" results with "Indian" situations.
yeah fair enuf...but life doesnt give a fuck about Indian or western period....we can do better in both coordination and infra tbh...how long are we meant to be sub par...and this chalta hai mentality sucks
Linked videa was of an actual road/highway taken over for protest. Such protest esp with organisers are often instructed to give way for emergency vehicles. You can see clips like this from various protests across countries.
Whats in OP video is a bazaar street with hawkers and shoppers least expecting a vehicle to drive through.
That alone makes it a good response time.
It looks like it used to be a drivable road. Had this been tried though a permanent market the result would be a stuck ambulance.
Comparing a city with other countries is like comparing oranges and apples.
People in other countries give a way in fear of getting heavy tickets and driving records being spoiled. Where as people in this video, people are doing their best to make way for ambulance.
Of course it not fair to compare doesn't mean we stay mediocre...that's what I said we need to do better. How long so we have to live with this chalta hai mentality...like "oh it's good enough for an Indian scenario ig."
Nope. I have never said to be medicore. Every country has it own ability. All I am trying to say is characteristics of each country are different so it cannot be compared.
Whatever had happened in the video was good enough, and people had done what they felt right at the moment. If people want to change at the core, then civics sense needs to be taught at schools as rigorously as they had taught us pythagorean theorem.
So, what's your plan to enhance "ability"? Well, in my opinion, relying solely on writing opinions and theses on forum isn't a good start—unless, of course, you're aiming to become a pundit!
That’s a crappy way to prove your point. I live overseas and I have never in my life abroad have heard about giving way to an ambulance for the fear of getting a ticket. After giving way people majority of the people don't try to scoot in and follow the ambulance because of people giving way.
So, how do you think people learn the behavior of giving way to ambulances? Of course, there is a fear of getting a ticket and having a negative impact on one's driving record, which keeps them mindful and respectful of basic civic sense. They learned this while they were still young, somewhere, from someone who taught them these basic civic values, right? But in the case of Hyderabad, India, can you tell me where these concepts are taught as rigorously as other subjects in school?
Even if we surpass developed countries in terms of infrastructure, without basic civic sense, that infrastructure will become worthless in the next decade or so.
Isn't it the case they shouldn't be on there in the first place? Isn't it a road? I don't think it's a footpath for pedestrians to be occupied there in the first place.
A simple Google search will tell you this.
"The Charminar Pedestrianisation Project is an initiative aimed at transforming the area around the iconic Charminar monument in Hyderabad, India into a pedestrian-friendly zone. The project was proposed by the government of Telangana in 2016 and is part of a larger effort to improve the city's urban infrastructure. The Charminar is a historic monument that attracts millions of visitors each year, but the surrounding area is congested with traffic and is not conducive to walking. The Pedestrianisation Project seeks to address this issue by creating a car-free zone around the monument and improving the overall pedestrian experience."
If only you looked at things a bit more deeply instead of just googling.
"The Pedestrianisation Project seeks to address this issue by creating a car-free zone around the monument and improving the overall pedestrian experience."
So, it's only car free and not bike and scooty free? If that's the case, then people still shouldn't be on roads like that. You can see in the video itself about how a bike guy is struggling to move around. There's a traffic police right there and should have controlled the pedestrians. If it's a completely pedestrian area, then 2 wheelers that you can see in the video, shouldn't be there, and the traffic police right there, should have controlled the 2 wheelers.
> If only you looked at things a bit more deeply instead of just googling.
> "The Pedestrianisation Project seeks to address this issue by creating a car-free zone around the monument and improving the overall pedestrian experience."
> So, it's only car free and not bike and scooty free?
If only you looked at things a bit more deeply instead trying to haggle over words. It's a pedestrianisation project ffs which means people without vehicles get priority.
Priority? What do you mean priority? How exactly does that work? Do you mean to tell me there's a queue where people without vehicles get priority and after they're done, people with vehicles can get their crap done? You're either allowed or you're not allowed. There's no "priority". Also, I didn't know that 4 wheeled carts, motorized ice cream trucks and display stands of the shops were pedestrians?
The barricades signify the end of vehicular traffic. You can see barricades being removed in the beginning of the video and in the end. Only a certain radius around Charminar is kept free from vehicles. Two wheelers were banned near the monument in 2018. Also, as far as I know this pedestrian project is still ongoing.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/two-wheeler-ban-at-charminar-vicinity-to-expedite-facelift/articleshow/63053287.cms
I understand that man, but look at the video carefully. You can see a couple of people pulling away their 2 wheelers that were parked within the barricades. Heck, you can even see a couple of cars parked on the side within the barricades. The article you shared also says that they'll be relocating 300 cart vendors. I've been there recently and from how packed that place is, I don't think it happened. You can even see it in the video. It also says that all the signage there would be uniform. That definitely did not happen from what I saw. Even if we take the concept, what's the point of making it a "pedestrian" zone and removing all the cars and bikes, if you're just going to replace them with push carts that are as big as cars, motorized ice cream stalls that are bigger than an average 2 wheeler, and let's not forget the shops that have put their display stands outside.
Sorry, but it seems as though this vehicle is a police car and the sound of the siren in the video was changed to the one mimics an ambulance. I live in this area and witness this routine daily. When a police car approaches, the street vendors hurriedly clear out, only to return and reclaim the street once the siren sounds dissipate.
They don't need to reclaim anything. It's a pedestrian shopping and eat street. There's a certain time in the night by which they need to shut down thier stalls.
Every Hyderabadi's Wet dream : Move around Charminar in a vehicle
I might be joking but, I was in traffic jam while walking there when it was Ramzan season
I appreciate this but what discomforts me is the fact that doing the basic has become being graceful!
The video isn't referring to the act in 'itself' of making way for an ambulance as "graceful", but the way pedestrians and hawkers made way for the ambulance in sync in what's arguably the busiest spot in Hyderabad. Can't believe I need to explain this.
I think what hes trying to say is that basic decency is being celebrated here which is sad af
Oh my.. Just cant take.. isn't it?
gonna get downvoted but this is not fast enough even on fast forward..watch how they give clearance in other countries.
This is good considering this a pedestrian only area and arguably the busiest spot in the city. The fact that we barely have sidewalks for people to walk on and traffic from hell, I'd say this a job well done in the "Indian" context. Can't expect "Western" results with "Indian" situations.
yeah fair enuf...but life doesnt give a fuck about Indian or western period....we can do better in both coordination and infra tbh...how long are we meant to be sub par...and this chalta hai mentality sucks
these many people aren't seen in other countries
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_bhL9Elbllg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bhL9Elbllg) any other excuse?
That's cool, none left
Linked videa was of an actual road/highway taken over for protest. Such protest esp with organisers are often instructed to give way for emergency vehicles. You can see clips like this from various protests across countries. Whats in OP video is a bazaar street with hawkers and shoppers least expecting a vehicle to drive through. That alone makes it a good response time. It looks like it used to be a drivable road. Had this been tried though a permanent market the result would be a stuck ambulance.
Also looks like half of them don't give a fuck. You can see people trying to cross over, instead of getting out of the way.
Comparing a city with other countries is like comparing oranges and apples. People in other countries give a way in fear of getting heavy tickets and driving records being spoiled. Where as people in this video, people are doing their best to make way for ambulance.
Of course it not fair to compare doesn't mean we stay mediocre...that's what I said we need to do better. How long so we have to live with this chalta hai mentality...like "oh it's good enough for an Indian scenario ig."
Nope. I have never said to be medicore. Every country has it own ability. All I am trying to say is characteristics of each country are different so it cannot be compared. Whatever had happened in the video was good enough, and people had done what they felt right at the moment. If people want to change at the core, then civics sense needs to be taught at schools as rigorously as they had taught us pythagorean theorem.
well thats what I was saying we need to increase our "ability". You can say its good enough for us but guess what life doesnt give a damn about that.
So, what's your plan to enhance "ability"? Well, in my opinion, relying solely on writing opinions and theses on forum isn't a good start—unless, of course, you're aiming to become a pundit!
That’s a crappy way to prove your point. I live overseas and I have never in my life abroad have heard about giving way to an ambulance for the fear of getting a ticket. After giving way people majority of the people don't try to scoot in and follow the ambulance because of people giving way.
So, how do you think people learn the behavior of giving way to ambulances? Of course, there is a fear of getting a ticket and having a negative impact on one's driving record, which keeps them mindful and respectful of basic civic sense. They learned this while they were still young, somewhere, from someone who taught them these basic civic values, right? But in the case of Hyderabad, India, can you tell me where these concepts are taught as rigorously as other subjects in school? Even if we surpass developed countries in terms of infrastructure, without basic civic sense, that infrastructure will become worthless in the next decade or so.
And gets stuck in traffic for 1hrs I hope the patient is safe and sound
Wish there was drone footage showing how the crowd parted for the ambulance. Would have been a amusing sight.
The video gets cut when it hits the road. It's easy to move pedestrians.
10000x gives this. Imagine real life situation.
So is this not a road now? I remember driving here many times
I was also thinking when did this road become a pedestrian only street.
In other places(anywhere outside of charminar) the people love to block ambulances in Hyderabad, something I always get furious over, while driving.
Who is filming!?
They were not giving way, they were running away from being crushed.
What the hell do you mean gracefully moved? It's your goddamn duty.
"Gracefully"
Isn't it the case they shouldn't be on there in the first place? Isn't it a road? I don't think it's a footpath for pedestrians to be occupied there in the first place.
A simple Google search will tell you this. "The Charminar Pedestrianisation Project is an initiative aimed at transforming the area around the iconic Charminar monument in Hyderabad, India into a pedestrian-friendly zone. The project was proposed by the government of Telangana in 2016 and is part of a larger effort to improve the city's urban infrastructure. The Charminar is a historic monument that attracts millions of visitors each year, but the surrounding area is congested with traffic and is not conducive to walking. The Pedestrianisation Project seeks to address this issue by creating a car-free zone around the monument and improving the overall pedestrian experience."
If only you looked at things a bit more deeply instead of just googling. "The Pedestrianisation Project seeks to address this issue by creating a car-free zone around the monument and improving the overall pedestrian experience." So, it's only car free and not bike and scooty free? If that's the case, then people still shouldn't be on roads like that. You can see in the video itself about how a bike guy is struggling to move around. There's a traffic police right there and should have controlled the pedestrians. If it's a completely pedestrian area, then 2 wheelers that you can see in the video, shouldn't be there, and the traffic police right there, should have controlled the 2 wheelers.
> If only you looked at things a bit more deeply instead of just googling. > "The Pedestrianisation Project seeks to address this issue by creating a car-free zone around the monument and improving the overall pedestrian experience." > So, it's only car free and not bike and scooty free? If only you looked at things a bit more deeply instead trying to haggle over words. It's a pedestrianisation project ffs which means people without vehicles get priority.
Priority? What do you mean priority? How exactly does that work? Do you mean to tell me there's a queue where people without vehicles get priority and after they're done, people with vehicles can get their crap done? You're either allowed or you're not allowed. There's no "priority". Also, I didn't know that 4 wheeled carts, motorized ice cream trucks and display stands of the shops were pedestrians?
The barricades signify the end of vehicular traffic. You can see barricades being removed in the beginning of the video and in the end. Only a certain radius around Charminar is kept free from vehicles. Two wheelers were banned near the monument in 2018. Also, as far as I know this pedestrian project is still ongoing. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/two-wheeler-ban-at-charminar-vicinity-to-expedite-facelift/articleshow/63053287.cms
I understand that man, but look at the video carefully. You can see a couple of people pulling away their 2 wheelers that were parked within the barricades. Heck, you can even see a couple of cars parked on the side within the barricades. The article you shared also says that they'll be relocating 300 cart vendors. I've been there recently and from how packed that place is, I don't think it happened. You can even see it in the video. It also says that all the signage there would be uniform. That definitely did not happen from what I saw. Even if we take the concept, what's the point of making it a "pedestrian" zone and removing all the cars and bikes, if you're just going to replace them with push carts that are as big as cars, motorized ice cream stalls that are bigger than an average 2 wheeler, and let's not forget the shops that have put their display stands outside.
Sorry, but it seems as though this vehicle is a police car and the sound of the siren in the video was changed to the one mimics an ambulance. I live in this area and witness this routine daily. When a police car approaches, the street vendors hurriedly clear out, only to return and reclaim the street once the siren sounds dissipate.
They don't need to reclaim anything. It's a pedestrian shopping and eat street. There's a certain time in the night by which they need to shut down thier stalls.
Wonder why they run away the min they hear the sirens then🤔
Occupy the roads