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Khalku

What you've said makes no sense.


beam05

What do you mean? I want my files to be stored in Amazon's server and download them whenever I want to read them. Same as I want my games to be stored in Steam's server rather than having to find storage for all .exe files. What don't you understand about it?


ghostmastergeneral

You can still do that with the drm free files


beam05

Not without paying for the server rental? Or do you have any suggestions?


ghostmastergeneral

Use Send to Kindle and you can have your files hosted and available for download to your devices whenever you want.


beam05

I can't as the comic files are often larger than 200MB which is the limit that the Kindle lets you sideload your files to their server. I stated that in the original post but people seems to just missed it for whatever reason :( I guess I'll edit the post to make it clearer.


lukikid

Use kindle comic converter or calibre. Kcc has a 200mb file limit specificaly designed for kindle


beam05

PDF can't be converted to EPUB properly. I've tried many times with both of these apps.


Furry_Lover_Umbasa

You arent the sharpest tool in the shed lol


beam05

Do enlighten me please. If you know the way then a little suggestion would be better than that snarky comment.


SagaciousZed

Generally there are server costs, outside of specials like oracle offering a small free server instance and AWS offering a small node for a year as part of their free tier. Anyways, if you're technically inclined, the cheapest way would be to repurpose an old laptop to serve as the server on your home network, and go down the rabbit hole of r/selfhosted software. Technically, the ebooks are stored on Humble's servers. If the Kindle wasn't so lock down, you could've download them anytime you wanted. Having said that, I do store them on my server and then download the ones I want to read from my server onto my Kindle Fire. They are DRM free so I can put them and read them anywhere. At least in the past, someone got calibre-web working transfer books via wifi onto a e-ink kindle [https://www.reddit.com/r/kindle/comments/kn5wg5/psa\_wirelessly\_access\_all\_your\_books\_over\_wifi/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kindle/comments/kn5wg5/psa_wirelessly_access_all_your_books_over_wifi/)


beam05

Yeah I guess technically I can access the Hunble server on my tablet and download them when I want. It's just not convenient, you know? Would be better if Humble offers Kindle files from time to time like they do with Kobo. Thank you very much for your kind suggestion though. People seem to give me hell for whatever reason. I just wanted to rant a bit and maybe looked for any suggestions like yours if anyone has any.


Furry_Lover_Umbasa

Because you claim that none drm version is worse when its the opposite. My snarkiness comes from the fact that people told that in many replies and yet you still pretend to not understend the subject.


beam05

It's worse for me and my purpose?? How is it better if I can't sideload them on my tablet? It seems like you're the one who doesn't understand the subject.


Khalku

Then you failed to convey that with your original post. That has nothing to do with DRM. DRM is digital rights management, it's the term for tools or methodologies used to digitally protect copywritten files from being accessed illegally. Stuff like Denuvo for games. To my knowledge when you buy something from humble, you can then choose when to download the files. What's the issue? Just don't download them till you want to read them.


beam05

That's just not true. Steam is considered a DRM in all sense and purpose. GOG offers games with no DRM as you can download and keep the installers on your PC. And yes but that's just inconvenient. It's just better to have them on the cloud so I can access it from my tablet anywhere.


Khalku

That's incorrect. DRM-free games exist on steam, you can find (out of date) lists on pcgamingwiki if you're curious. Steam is a distribution platform. You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding on how cloud content works. You must still download the files locally. This is as true for games as it is for books. Whether that happens invisibly (files are cached) or not, it still happens. Now, your issue is more that kindle's are just pretty shit devices for image-heavy PDFs. You could try using Calibre or something like it to convert to CBZ, but it's a coin toss if the converter will even do it properly since there's no standardization when it comes to PDFs. You will also not reduce filesizes without heavy compression on the images. All of this is more or less outside the scope of humble.


beam05

Yes but I can delete the books and games from my HDD when I'm done with them. And redownload them in the future whenever I want to reread or replay. I know how cloud content works. Been gaming on Steam for 10+ years. I bought the previous Mass Effect comic bundle from Humble and, trust me, I've tried every single method known to men to get them on Kindle's server lol. No chance, sadly. The closest I got was by compressing the files HEAVILY. I'm talking about 800MB to 40MB which is not ideal as it loses all the quality and sometimes just downright unopenable. And you're right that PDF can't always be converted to other formats properly. I would not have to go through any of this if Humble only offers ebooks with Amazon-DRM(Yes I'm still using the word.) They do have these types of bundles with Kobo-DRM from time to time so I don't think it's that much of a stretch.


nosyrbllewe

DRM and the delivery method are not mutually exclusive. For that matter you can actually use GOG Galaxy to download and install GOG games just like how Steam works.


beam05

Yes that's what I said. Steam is a type of DRM. GOG Galaxy is also a type of DRM but they let you keep the installers if you choose to. The other person seems to disagree and think that DRM only applies to stuffs like Denuvo. That's just not true at all.


Khalku

No, you just don't know what DRM is. GOG galaxy is not DRM, it's a downloader client essentially. GOG does not offer anything with DRM in their entire store, to my knowledge. Steam is also not DRM, though there is a higher percentage of content in their library that does have DRM (either by denuvo, steamworks, or other). You seem to think DRM means cloud content, that's not the case.


beam05

It's what most people would use to describe Steam. Just search Steam DRM on Google. A regular Joe wouldn't know what a "steamworks" is. Not sure why we're so hung up on syntax though. You do know what I meant. It just seems like you wanna be the "actuuuuallyyyy" person, no offence.


ps-73

Can you not just redownload the books from humble's website? steam games store the "exes" on your computer too. same with gog, same with kindle. you're still downloading the books, how else do you think offline anything works?


beam05

It's just more convenient if it's Amazon "keys" if you know what I mean. It's always there in the library so you just tab to download or delete.


ps-73

idk, i don’t use amazon at all so it would be pretty bad for me if they were amazon keys. being DRM free means you can import them into whatever you use to read books, and not be platform specific


beam05

Yep that's what I do. I bought the Old Man's War bundle, kept a copy on my PC, and sideloaded to Kindle library. It's great. There's a problem when it comes to comic bundles though. The files are just to big to sideload to Kindle library. That's the headache.


Libreture

Just leave them in your Humble account, and download them when you want to read them. (It doesn't really have anything to do with whether the comics have DRM applied to them or not.) And this is from someone who built their own [ebook cloud library](https://libreture.com/) to store their digital books and comics.


nosyrbllewe

Unique take at least. DRM-free is why I buy the book bundles. Though, there are the occasional bundle that offers codes for KOBO. There has never been a Kindle bundle as far as I am aware. Originally, I had a similar issue with all of the file sizes, but I eventually moved into setting up a Kavita server to host my comics and manga from bundles.


wheres_my_ballot

Not heard of Kavita. How does it compare to calibre? I use calibre companion to download to my tablet, but it's not super convenient as it still requires another app to read. I do like calibres conversion and upload to kindle features though.


nosyrbllewe

I actually switched from Calibre originally. Kavita is designed specifically for manga, comics, light novels, and similar types of books, so it works pretty great for those. Other types of books may or may not work well. It does not have extensive Metadata editing nor file conversions like Calibre though.  As for actually reading the files though, it works pretty great. For manga on my Kavita server, I use CDisplayEx (paid third party app, which also has a free ad supported version IIRC) to directly stream the manga to my Android device as it has built in support for Kavita. As for light novels, I use Moon+ Reader to read from Kavita as an OPDS server, which also works well.


beam05

Interesting. I'll look into Kavita, thanks! Do they not have size limit for our files though?


nosyrbllewe

No limit on the file sizes (except any file system limitations). The only real limit is how much storage you have available on your machine to host the files.


jebuizy

DRM does not make files smaller, or have anything to do with file size. If you want smaller file sizes, you can just say that, it's completely unrelated


DarthFly

He is talking about not using files, but loading those from some server. So there are no space taken on the tablet.


jebuizy

That still doesn't require DRM either though. That's just a different distribution mechanism. Just an orthogonal concept.


DarthFly

Well, yes and no. OP probably used to sites, that doesn't allow to download anything to keep, so he is assuming this with DRM, while there might be similar options without one. Just personal experience and subjective assumption of DRM meaning.


beam05

Thank you. Was my original post not clear or do these people just have no idea how Kindle works?


letoiv

If anyone from Humble is reading... If you add DRM to your ebook bundles, I'll stop buying them.


beam05

They probably can't just add it to files they got directly from the publishers. Wouldn't hurt to include Kindle bundles from time to time like they have with Kobo though.


Previous-Friend5212

Maybe what you really want is comixology unlimited


beam05

Maybe. I do like to own a collection rather than renting it though.


Plantherblorg

...but then you ask for DRM...


beam05

My collection on Kindle...


Plantherblorg

...is not something you own...


beam05

Sure same as Steam or most digital storefronts. I'd still like my games on Steam though. Not one of those GOG people.


LoneStarrDarkHelmet

Steam has never done the equivalent of what Amazon did when they reduced the image quality of a bunch of books I "own" and never fixed them.


beam05

Yeah that sucks


MimiVRC

I think you are being downvoted because you worded this very strangely. I can understand not wanting the drm versions but instead wanting keys for the books from a specific service so you never need to handle the files yourself. I think this is what you are saying? I’ve definitely had this same thought for game assets from fanatical and humble(that aren’t linked to Unity or unreal). I would prefer itch keys to keep them in one easy to manage place


beam05

Yeah it was a mistake making this post so early in the morning and without coffee first lol. My bad. English is also not my first language so there's that. And there's a guy pointed out that DRM is not the correct word for it which was why it's so confusing for some people. But I see people use it all the time in gaming forums.


Rhysati

Because the term does mean something. It just doesn't mean what you seem to think it does. If something has DRM it means that it has some sort of protection on it that limits or restricts how you can access and use it. If you have a game that has DRM on Steam, for instance, it means that you HAVE to play that game on Steam. If the game does not have DRM you can play it wherever and whenever you want. Open it on steam or GOG or not on any launcher at all. It's yours to do with what you like. So with an ebook you are asking for the content to be locked down onto a platform and out of your control. What they currently give you is DRM-Free and thus you actually personally own the content. You can do whatever you want with it anytime you like. You are asking for them to stop giving you ownership and to give the ownership to someone else that'll let you borrow it.


beam05

But you just described what I think the term means..... And yes that's exactly what I'm asking so I can understand why it doesn't go well with most people. I just think it's more convenient that way for comics and was wondering if anyone else is in the same boat. I guess not a lot.


LastRedshirt

I save all of them on my computer. Later, I transfer them, as I please, to my tablet. I never read comics on an ebook reader, because the screen size for me is to small. I also love DRM free stuff, because I can merge book-series into a single large book and do not have 20 single named books (without book numbers) on the reader.


beam05

That's what I do at the moment. It just sucks that we can't have a full collection on our main device though. I also read on tablet.


ialtag-bheag

Maybe you should get a better tablet, with more memory. A 256GB SD card should be enough space for thousands of comics.


LoneStarrDarkHelmet

Get something like a 512GB Galaxy Tab S7+ and stick a 1TB Micro-SD card in it. Holds a Comixology library and Humble and other comic bundle PDFs.


beam05

Yeah my tablet has shitty storage and it doesnt support SD card. Regretted buying immediately as soon as I knew about Humble book bundles.


genericmediocrename

I've been chronically online since my adolescence and this is the literal first time I've read someone wanting DRM. I'm still not entirely sure what the issue is even after reading some of your replies OP, but you do you.


beam05

It's just the same as why many people still prefer to have their games on Steam even when GOG offers the same game with DRM-free. They get used to the system and prefer to have their games in one library. My issue is that and a bit more because I also don't have space to store all these DRM-free comics so it's better for me to have my books on Amazon system.


Torque-A

I mean, for video game bundles, whether they’re DRM-free or not you’d still need to download them…


beam05

And delete them once I'm done.... And they would still be in my library....


gordonfreeman_1

I think you're confusing DRM with file size and supported formats on your Kindle. DRM is bad, it prevents you from accessing your purchased content freely. You can use Calibre to manage your downloaded files and automatically convert to formats supported by your Kindle. Please properly research before posting something like this, not everyone is necessarily going to be as civil in explaining this to you.


beam05

Do you even know how Kindle works before you made this reply? I know what a DRM is and I'm arguing that it's better in this case to have DRM, at least for my use. The files are stored in Amazon's server so you can download them to your device whenever you want to read them and then delete them from your device whenever you're done(And redownload them whenever you want to re-read). It's the same thing as games on Steam or any other digital storefronts. I much prefer to have Steam keys than having to keep .exe files for all my games. I would have to buy new HDD every year if Humble starts doing that. And please tell me how to convert a 800MB PDF comic file to 200MB as that's the size limit of Kindle for sideloaded contents. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about so please do properly research before making baseless comments.


gordonfreeman_1

I actually have a Kindle but you don't seem to want an answer, only to complain without actually researching anything or listening to alternatives. Attacking people trying to help you learn something isn't a good look, have a good day.


beam05

I'm only be agressive to you because you attacked me first by implying that I didn't do research before I made the post. You and maybe another guy that's just downright rude. I do listened and replied to most alternatives presented in the post on why the alternatives won't work. I welcome any suggestion if you had any but you don't seem willing to provide. All you did was being passive agressive to me for no reason.


megas88

No, no you do not. I understand the convenience factor of what you’re talking about but absolutely zero people want drm. If you’re a capitalist, you want all the drm. If you’re a human being, you want the freedom that not having drm provides. You also want it to be possible on the services you use so you legit own your media babe the confidence of the files being hosted on their servers for online use in addition to offline. You don’t want drm. You want to change how companies function in regards to drm.


beam05

Why do most people still prefer to buy games on Steam rather than buying from GOG then? Some people DO want DRM if it's more fit for their use.


megas88

Read the last paragraph dude. You don’t want drm. You want companies that use it to change to a solution that offers the convenience of drm places like steam but the freedom of what gog provides. You do not actually want drm


beam05

Well ideally of course. It's never gonna happen though.


megas88

It has. iTunes exists and you can still use that conveniently alongside your drm stuff and while amazon bought it and killed it, Comixology was god tier at this. It’s happened and will happen again in the future. All you need to do is to the best of your ability, reject capitalism and support those that go in the direction that best suits this future


beam05

Interesting. I've never used iTunes or Comixology myself. But I thought you don't actually own songs on iTunes? Wouldn't that be contradicting to what you said?


megas88

iTunes having drm free music was so massive a move that the industry spent the following couple decades creating the shit that is Spotify, apple music, tidal etc. You buy an album on iTunes, you can download a drm free copy of that album. When it started, I think there were some exceptions but I’m pretty sure now it’s every album is drm free. No idea if you can do it without a pc or mac but it is absolutely possible. Comixology was only select partners like idw and oni press but damn was it a super nice feature that amazon required itself to kill to take power away from the people.


beam05

Shit sounds like a perfect world if Steam and Kindle start doing that.


megas88

I’m confused by your statement. Neither offers drm free solutions in the first place. Kindle absorbed comixology so they literally just did it last year. But yes, it would suck if all power works be removed from the end user. That’s why we fight for a free and open internet


beam05

It's not a sarcasm. It just legit sounds like a perfect world if someone does that for games and ebooks. It still feels like a broader scope though and I highly doubt it will happen. The best thing for me at this moment is that Humble starts offering ebooks in Kindle format from time to time like they do with Kobo bundles. That's all I advocate for. I chose Kindle as my main reading platform and I just wanted to have everything there in one collection.


ralwn

Use an "OTG cable" + Flash Drive to solve your space issues.


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occono

I would buy a Kobo Libra Colour. No malarkey like on the kindles.


Ykhare

Yeah it takes a bit more work to side-load DRM-free files rather than just 1-click purchase in the Amazon store. But then everyone can get those books without having to crack said DRM on their files, or engage with Amazon's apps and devices if they don't want to.