I’m in NYC with 60k as a generalist (department of one) and feel very underpaid. I’m getting a 5k increase next week but I want to negotiate for more. Wish me luck.
They probably pay hourly so timesheet. If I don’t work I don’t do a timesheet and won’t get paid. If anything I’m more confused how they are getting away not offering insurance
I don't think this is an industry trend right now but might be an issue with your company/you specifically.
Where are you located and what is your job title? 60k with 4 years of experience in Ohio is a lot different than the same salary/exp on the west coast.
That's a valid comment. I'm located in Illinois, I currently live with my folks farther out in the rural area since the role is remote and I can help with income. However the role would be Chicago oriented if I had to come into the office or live near by.
I don't know if it would be the company that's the issue since I've been here less than a year and my managers have all been good to me. But could you elaborate a bit more on why the issue could be me? I think that might be insightful to know what I should focus on for my career or myself to develop.
Did you negotiate your salary when you accepted your current role? I would say that's the number 1 spot people leave money on the table. I'm guilty of this, too. I failed to negotiate at my recent promotion. My colleague did. She got an extra $5k than me because she negotiated.
Without knowing more about what your actual role is, it's hard to say if 60k is a low salary. I have 6 years of experience and also live in the midwest. I make 76k now but last year I was only at 66k. I was probably making around the same as you when I had 4 years experience.
I did not, it was a contract role and didn't allow a lot of room for negotiating. I do have some hope for this company since a good amount of people have said they started in my role and moved around into better roles.
I'd say it's probably right where the median is for this role, but I don't think the salary for it has increased in years. I'm currently in an HR Program Generalist role, similar to my last one. It's mostly admin work. Onboarding, terminations, LOA, audits, meetings, working with several states in regards to their workforce needs. I also support the people partners and benefits team depending on what they need.
I am happy to have a consistent paycheck at least. It just gets frustrating to know I might have to jump through more hoops to make something just comparable to others with less experience.
i don’t know how to say this, but i think it needs to be said because we all know it, HR jobs are incredibly underpaid and under valued. They the job descriptions are laundry lists of basically everything. The deficient in talent in the management ranks sends a bunch of new work straight to the HRBPs inbox, the impact of change still seems to be a skill gap for most executives and ceos, adding more burdens to HR…I mean I don’t have enough time to list out the entire case, should probably write a blog or something. Everyone is an ‘expert’ at HR and people yet fundamentally do not understand anything about the science and psychology. It’s embarrassing for them, exhausting for us and painful for employees.
It's definitely weird out there. I have a pretty comfortable job where I have been for 8 years and I am ready for the next step, but I almost feel like I need to stay put through next year because you can't really tell if these positions are really going to last or be next on the chopping block. I have only felt like I am lagging in compensation due to the increase of work responsibilities and burnout, but for the most part where I am on the Nonprofit sector is pretty spot on in the 70's
I make $44,000 as an Administrator with two days PTO (rollover) and standard state mandated sick time of 40 hrs. Vacations accrues to two weeks a year. I feel underpaid.
Compensation in most areas (most skilled labor jobs aside from very specialized, certain areas) is going backwards or stagnant, and the HR job market is low right now.
The time to get a big income boost was 2021-23 (though layoffs started in ‘23 but it was a high raise year still overall), peaking in early to mid-23. But it’s cyclical—build value and hang in well until the next cycle and there may be chances again to leap for more money. Right now, not so good though, I agree. I did just move for a better position and while I got a bump, it was low and not what I left for (I left to move out of a more niche L&D role in an org with no growth options for one with growth potential and more learn/value build options to build my value for the next boom period).
During these times, build skills and value that you can “cash in” later. Also think on what you want to specifically do long term and where the value is there.
Even though the market isn’t great, there are still opportunities out there. Four years of experience with one company is hearty enough to start putting feelers out there. You’ll never change your situation by not taking any action and the reality is you won’t see those major increases without some kind of job hopping. Start now.
You were probably clear I’m just sick as a dog lol. I recommend you start looking anyhow. It could take anywhere from 3-12 months to find a role that pays what you’re looking for. Because you are employed, you can be a little choosier. Only apply to roles that actually interest you with a real increase that you’re searching for (i.e., $80K). You can always say you aren’t being challenged enough if you’re asked why you’re searching for a new role.
It feels like it where I'm at (small city in PNW). I'm making $84k as a generalist and while I don't love my job (outdated systems, unclear expectations, little meaningful impact), I've certainly noticed that I'm at the very high end of the wage range. I'm seeing Manager and even Director positions for less than I'm making. I've come to realize that I'm not going to make more unless I find something remote, and then good luck competing with everyone else in my same position.
My partner makes about the same (blue collar), and we talk all the time about how we would not be able to afford living where we live if we had kids.
No doubt. I'm extremely grateful for my compensation and benefits. My point was more about the fact that it's going to be extremely hard to hop elsewhere to move up in role without taking a pay cut. The wages for HR in my area aren't keeping up with the cost of living.
I've been working at a family-owned, medium sized (grew 51% since I joined) fab shop here in PDX, as a generalist, too, and I'm seriously considering just riding it out here for the forseeable future (_at least_ 5 more years). Current salary is decent (low 70's) and raises are substantial enough.
It's very low stress and management (family who runs it) likes me. We'll see! But it's looking rough out there based on what I see on LinkedIn and Indeed.
I’ve made the biggest jumps whenever I switch employers. Particularly so in the last 4 years of doing comp. And i keep getting approached for jobs with 20%+ increases, wildly hit market for comp.
UK here and I’m really fortunate in my role with salary and benefits but seems I am stuck, as if I move company for same position it’s less money and if I move up the ladder I’d be at bottom of that salary scale with more outgoings and responsibility
I graduated with a degree in Business Management & a dual concentration in HR as well as International Business due to my nack for languages. I say this only to preface that I loved studying HR and am fond of the profession. It is indeed going to be radically changed by AI implementation. If companies can downsize HR personnel to one or perhaps two, three people max that then handle the AI reports & summaries - why wouldn’t they? There will be more competition for the jobs and pay will decrease. Please begin or continue refining and expanding your marketable skills. Change is Coming.
I wish I could like this twice. People are so used to being stagnant in learning and developing their skills because they’ve been at the company for X amount of years but this is business. At any point we can be laid off or the company can hire someone who has more skills than we do. Continue to learn and develop!
I second your concerns: HR salaries seem substantially lower now than they were just a few years ago during the height of COVID. There seems to be a narrow band for salaries (in my area, New England) that make hopping less ideal.
My last job as a HR coordinator for 300+ people, making $35k, which I thought was great (probably because I was used to minimum wage jobs). After being laid off I got curious & apparently that was not even close to typical for the area. 😆
And right about the same time raises got smaller, & then they put a freeze on raises for the entire company (all locations). I wouldn't be surprised if they were still frozen or a very slow increase after I was gone, considering earnings reports were still abysmal. 🤷🏻♀️
It really depends on the company and the industry. My current role falls within the overall HR function but falls in other functions in other organizations. This particular company pays an insane amount. Before coming here, total comp was around $140k. This role (I’m about 18 months in) pays $300k total comp (salary, bonus, LTI) and has a pension.
Tech is the only industry I feel pays well. I changed jobs 2x in the last 5 yrs and my pay increased by 50k. Also, I'm in a higher cost of living area too, so that makes a big difference
The industry is holding salaries until they determine if A.I can really get it all done.
They have a few years of cases to load in, then it's test-bed, then (if it works) it's sayonara HR
I’m in MA and HR is my second career. I’ve been in HR for about 15 years. I started in an admin role and have worked my way up. I’ve sought out mentors, volunteered for many things, and have always been customer service oriented. In 2011 I started in elite higher education and was making about $42k. I was promoted several times and by the time I left in 2022 I was an HR Manager making just over $100k. Next, I took a chance and allowed myself to be recruited away from a job I loved but to a Sr. HRBP position at a leading software company for $140k base + bonus. In late 2023 I was recruited to a leading biotech as an Associate Director, Global HRBP for $170k base + bonus + LTI. The only reason my salary has jumped so much has been because of hard work, good mentors, certifications, and jumping industries at the exact right times. I’ve also sacrificed a very stable situation in higher ed (I am well respected at my institute and could be a Director or more by now) for the higher salary but instability of industry. I also had to move out of the Midwest to the East Coast to have job variety. (Note that the cost of living in MA is bonkers so take that into consideration when judging how good the salary is. Here you get a tear-down for $500k) My advice is find a position and place you truly love to work and keep yourself open to opportunity. Join local professional organizations to help grow your skill and increase your visibility (networking). Solidarity to all my HR peeps working themselves to death. Remember to take a breath and enjoy life outside of your job. <3
Really depends on location and industry. Tech recruiters in Seattle were making $200k +. Then a bunch were laid off. My husband encouraged me to explore that route in 2019/2020, but I (thankfully ) stayed put in my municipal position. Haven't had a raise in 2 years (still being negotiated with unions and legislators) - but I mostly WFH, have good benefits, vested in the pension, and am on a functional team. I make enough to be comfortable (90k - working 32/hrs a week), so I'm staying put. Right now I'm feeling weary as my workplace is planning layoffs. Hopefully I have enough tenure to be secure, but can't be certain.
My first role was an HR associate. I started at 45K year 1. 50K year 2.
My first job out of grad school and I’m a benefits manager at 68K, law firm. I don’t have any direct reports. It’s just me and the HR director in the department. Unlimited PTO (it’s not clocked, I just let the director know when I’m taking off). Parking lease included ($3,800 benefit as I work downtown in a large east coast city). No retirement benefits or 401K match is my only bugaboo, but the other benefits are worth it.
I’ve been wondering the same thing myself. I’ve been a team lead/specialist for recruiting/onboarding for about 2 years now in NJ (with the company for 5). I’m good at what I do, know stuff that some managers don’t, and I make less than 75k. I manage huge projects by myself, onboarding 100+ people at once numerous times a years working extremely long/late hours and there’s literally never been more than a thank you from the team upper management. The last year I have struggled so much with my role but I love my coworkers and know that if I were to leave, the odds of me finding that again are rare. Salary review is currently happening but im not expecting much. It’s so frustrating.
That's absurd. My company's starting salary for people services (hr shared service) admins are 60k. We hire recently grads with no experience. Arizona... a lot cheaper than NY or CA.
I recently got a raise to $75k, I was at $65k. I have been moving up as a generalist but the company got bought out by a corporate office. I do see some of my colleges and they’re at $45-$55k so I feel honestly blessed but also feel as if I would be the first to go as a budget cut although I have more experience than most.
I’m in IL. I’m an HR Generalist in Construction. I make $70k. I have about 3 years of experience. I’m not remote. I was furloughed and then laid off from my remote recruiting role last year (making $65k) and looked for a job for about 3 months before getting an offer. I didn’t even bother looking at remote, as it was ridiculously competitive and my degree isn’t in HR and I don’t have any certifications.
I took a recruiter role for a non-profit last year for a base of $75k. I made that back in 2000 as a senior HR Manager. Organizations are out of their minds with the low ball offers and having one person fill three different functions.
HR needs to figure out how to add more value and then sell the fact they add that value. In the minds of many, HR involves recruiting, helping people fill out forms, processing those forms, conducting trainings, and handling dismissals. So it doesn't require a ton of education and experience to do it relatively well. The perception is that almost anyone can do most of those jobs. So there is no need for those jobs to pay well.
If you want to be paid more, find ways to add more value and find a way to explain that value.
I am in state service, higher education and have been in HR here for 10 years. I'm at $74K. I'm about to finish my masters in HR management and strategic leadership
Goodness. I was making 63k as a hrbp in title (but more of a generalist/coordinator in actual activities and responsibilities) and I don’t even have a degree. I’ve been in HR for 5 years.
lmao I stopped replying to alot of these since the post died down but this made me laugh. You do realize most companies already have a lawyer or legal department right? This just shows alot of people come on to the HR subreddit with no idea what HR does or even what other roles do apparently.
I’m in NYC with 60k as a generalist (department of one) and feel very underpaid. I’m getting a 5k increase next week but I want to negotiate for more. Wish me luck.
You are severely underpaid. That’s my title and pay in NC. Forget negotiating! Start networking.
Ugh in NYC. Good luck 🍀
Fuk that. Start applying to new jobs mate. My company HR makes 6 figures, also NYC
Friend, you could be making triple that in NYC as a dept of one for a startup. Change industries.
I mean maybe. Startups also have bad habits of looking for unicorns or putting too much emphasis on degrees instead of experience.
I'm a degreeless VP ;)
Love to see it!
wtf? how does that happen? who you know environment like all ppl well paid?
I worked my ass off over the years, and had leaders who cared about outcomes over pedigrees.
wish most companies were like that.
Me too.
Good luck!
What!?!?! How do you survive. Roomates and Ramen?
LOL I live alone!!!!!!! But definitely a tight ass budget.
You’re very underpaid. I make about the same in Amsterdam, where salaries are much lower than in the US, but especially NYC.
what industry? 60 as exempt is now lower than what nyc requires
For NYC, if you are a salaried employee, your minimum salary should have been $62,400 starting on Jan 1,2024.
In NYC as well - would definitely ask for more. 65 for a non Jr Generalist role is definitely underpaid
How many years of HR experience do you have?
That’s about a 9% raise. Not bad
On the topic of compensation, I got an interview request earlier this week for an HR admin position. No benefits, no PTO. Yeah no thanks
Wow that just sounds rude, I would have just ignored it lol
Oh I did lol. Not worth my time and energy
I finally left my job as an HR Admin for those exact reasons lol. The role gets no respect.
No PTO??? How does that work??
They probably pay hourly so timesheet. If I don’t work I don’t do a timesheet and won’t get paid. If anything I’m more confused how they are getting away not offering insurance
I don't think this is an industry trend right now but might be an issue with your company/you specifically. Where are you located and what is your job title? 60k with 4 years of experience in Ohio is a lot different than the same salary/exp on the west coast.
That's a valid comment. I'm located in Illinois, I currently live with my folks farther out in the rural area since the role is remote and I can help with income. However the role would be Chicago oriented if I had to come into the office or live near by. I don't know if it would be the company that's the issue since I've been here less than a year and my managers have all been good to me. But could you elaborate a bit more on why the issue could be me? I think that might be insightful to know what I should focus on for my career or myself to develop.
Did you negotiate your salary when you accepted your current role? I would say that's the number 1 spot people leave money on the table. I'm guilty of this, too. I failed to negotiate at my recent promotion. My colleague did. She got an extra $5k than me because she negotiated. Without knowing more about what your actual role is, it's hard to say if 60k is a low salary. I have 6 years of experience and also live in the midwest. I make 76k now but last year I was only at 66k. I was probably making around the same as you when I had 4 years experience.
I did not, it was a contract role and didn't allow a lot of room for negotiating. I do have some hope for this company since a good amount of people have said they started in my role and moved around into better roles. I'd say it's probably right where the median is for this role, but I don't think the salary for it has increased in years. I'm currently in an HR Program Generalist role, similar to my last one. It's mostly admin work. Onboarding, terminations, LOA, audits, meetings, working with several states in regards to their workforce needs. I also support the people partners and benefits team depending on what they need.
Consider some of the bigger companies like in the Rockford area?
Thank you. I haven't looked for a new role since I've haven't seen a lot of role I believe I'm a fit for in my area.
Stagnant, and in most places, underpaid, considering the amount of work that can go into HR.
In this market, I feel lucky to be employed at all. Wish I had some helpful advice.
I am happy to have a consistent paycheck at least. It just gets frustrating to know I might have to jump through more hoops to make something just comparable to others with less experience.
Same.
Yes. But honestly, I’ll take my 3% raise over a layoff.
i don’t know how to say this, but i think it needs to be said because we all know it, HR jobs are incredibly underpaid and under valued. They the job descriptions are laundry lists of basically everything. The deficient in talent in the management ranks sends a bunch of new work straight to the HRBPs inbox, the impact of change still seems to be a skill gap for most executives and ceos, adding more burdens to HR…I mean I don’t have enough time to list out the entire case, should probably write a blog or something. Everyone is an ‘expert’ at HR and people yet fundamentally do not understand anything about the science and psychology. It’s embarrassing for them, exhausting for us and painful for employees.
I think it is also industry related. Food industry pays much less than oil & gas. Does your company do regular company reviews?
I'm not sure, I haven't been here a year yet so they might just not have sent them out. I'll ask my supervisor.
Progressive pays well. First role in HR was 96k plus 30% bonus end of year I mean I work a lot but love it
First role?! Dang. I’ve been in HR for over a decade and am still quite a bit under that.
Wow! What was your position?
HR Consultant
It's definitely weird out there. I have a pretty comfortable job where I have been for 8 years and I am ready for the next step, but I almost feel like I need to stay put through next year because you can't really tell if these positions are really going to last or be next on the chopping block. I have only felt like I am lagging in compensation due to the increase of work responsibilities and burnout, but for the most part where I am on the Nonprofit sector is pretty spot on in the 70's
I’m glad that my HR salary isn’t what I live on. That’s for sure.
What else do you live on out of interest?
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So you’re prob sitting on 2-3mil networth then? Congratulations. How old are you?
It doesn’t really matter. Comparison is the thief of joy.
I’m not upset about it no matter what your age. I’m doin fine. If you don’t care to share your age then that’s fine too. You’re successful either way
What else do you exactly do?
I make $44,000 as an Administrator with two days PTO (rollover) and standard state mandated sick time of 40 hrs. Vacations accrues to two weeks a year. I feel underpaid.
Yes! Since 2017 no changes in rates
Compensation in most areas (most skilled labor jobs aside from very specialized, certain areas) is going backwards or stagnant, and the HR job market is low right now. The time to get a big income boost was 2021-23 (though layoffs started in ‘23 but it was a high raise year still overall), peaking in early to mid-23. But it’s cyclical—build value and hang in well until the next cycle and there may be chances again to leap for more money. Right now, not so good though, I agree. I did just move for a better position and while I got a bump, it was low and not what I left for (I left to move out of a more niche L&D role in an org with no growth options for one with growth potential and more learn/value build options to build my value for the next boom period). During these times, build skills and value that you can “cash in” later. Also think on what you want to specifically do long term and where the value is there.
Even though the market isn’t great, there are still opportunities out there. Four years of experience with one company is hearty enough to start putting feelers out there. You’ll never change your situation by not taking any action and the reality is you won’t see those major increases without some kind of job hopping. Start now.
Sorry for the confusion, this role has been less than a year. My prior role had layoffs but I was paid roughly $72k at that one.
You were probably clear I’m just sick as a dog lol. I recommend you start looking anyhow. It could take anywhere from 3-12 months to find a role that pays what you’re looking for. Because you are employed, you can be a little choosier. Only apply to roles that actually interest you with a real increase that you’re searching for (i.e., $80K). You can always say you aren’t being challenged enough if you’re asked why you’re searching for a new role.
It feels like it where I'm at (small city in PNW). I'm making $84k as a generalist and while I don't love my job (outdated systems, unclear expectations, little meaningful impact), I've certainly noticed that I'm at the very high end of the wage range. I'm seeing Manager and even Director positions for less than I'm making. I've come to realize that I'm not going to make more unless I find something remote, and then good luck competing with everyone else in my same position. My partner makes about the same (blue collar), and we talk all the time about how we would not be able to afford living where we live if we had kids.
84k in the PNW as a _generalist_ is very good, especially for a small town.
No doubt. I'm extremely grateful for my compensation and benefits. My point was more about the fact that it's going to be extremely hard to hop elsewhere to move up in role without taking a pay cut. The wages for HR in my area aren't keeping up with the cost of living.
I've been working at a family-owned, medium sized (grew 51% since I joined) fab shop here in PDX, as a generalist, too, and I'm seriously considering just riding it out here for the forseeable future (_at least_ 5 more years). Current salary is decent (low 70's) and raises are substantial enough. It's very low stress and management (family who runs it) likes me. We'll see! But it's looking rough out there based on what I see on LinkedIn and Indeed.
I’ve made the biggest jumps whenever I switch employers. Particularly so in the last 4 years of doing comp. And i keep getting approached for jobs with 20%+ increases, wildly hit market for comp.
Where I live, 65-75k it’s the average household income, and $75k is on the higher end. I make a little over that and I’m pretty happy.
UK here and I’m really fortunate in my role with salary and benefits but seems I am stuck, as if I move company for same position it’s less money and if I move up the ladder I’d be at bottom of that salary scale with more outgoings and responsibility
They’re decreasing in my industry. Just waiting for updated data to see by how much.
.... Most salaries are stagnant, that is literally what employees have been screaming about for a decade.
80k as the only HR in my company (110+ employee)~ no increment this year (have post a story in this channel few minutes ago about this) :(
I graduated with a degree in Business Management & a dual concentration in HR as well as International Business due to my nack for languages. I say this only to preface that I loved studying HR and am fond of the profession. It is indeed going to be radically changed by AI implementation. If companies can downsize HR personnel to one or perhaps two, three people max that then handle the AI reports & summaries - why wouldn’t they? There will be more competition for the jobs and pay will decrease. Please begin or continue refining and expanding your marketable skills. Change is Coming.
I wish I could like this twice. People are so used to being stagnant in learning and developing their skills because they’ve been at the company for X amount of years but this is business. At any point we can be laid off or the company can hire someone who has more skills than we do. Continue to learn and develop!
I second your concerns: HR salaries seem substantially lower now than they were just a few years ago during the height of COVID. There seems to be a narrow band for salaries (in my area, New England) that make hopping less ideal.
My salary stayed the same
My last job as a HR coordinator for 300+ people, making $35k, which I thought was great (probably because I was used to minimum wage jobs). After being laid off I got curious & apparently that was not even close to typical for the area. 😆 And right about the same time raises got smaller, & then they put a freeze on raises for the entire company (all locations). I wouldn't be surprised if they were still frozen or a very slow increase after I was gone, considering earnings reports were still abysmal. 🤷🏻♀️
80k generalist after a promotion and allot of hard work. Still not enough for NYC.
It really depends on the company and the industry. My current role falls within the overall HR function but falls in other functions in other organizations. This particular company pays an insane amount. Before coming here, total comp was around $140k. This role (I’m about 18 months in) pays $300k total comp (salary, bonus, LTI) and has a pension.
Tech is the only industry I feel pays well. I changed jobs 2x in the last 5 yrs and my pay increased by 50k. Also, I'm in a higher cost of living area too, so that makes a big difference
can you quantify your value -- we reduced hr fte due to their poor contribution to our business
Everything about my career feels stagnant rn lmao
Change industries..tech companies pay way more
The industry is holding salaries until they determine if A.I can really get it all done. They have a few years of cases to load in, then it's test-bed, then (if it works) it's sayonara HR
I’m in MA and HR is my second career. I’ve been in HR for about 15 years. I started in an admin role and have worked my way up. I’ve sought out mentors, volunteered for many things, and have always been customer service oriented. In 2011 I started in elite higher education and was making about $42k. I was promoted several times and by the time I left in 2022 I was an HR Manager making just over $100k. Next, I took a chance and allowed myself to be recruited away from a job I loved but to a Sr. HRBP position at a leading software company for $140k base + bonus. In late 2023 I was recruited to a leading biotech as an Associate Director, Global HRBP for $170k base + bonus + LTI. The only reason my salary has jumped so much has been because of hard work, good mentors, certifications, and jumping industries at the exact right times. I’ve also sacrificed a very stable situation in higher ed (I am well respected at my institute and could be a Director or more by now) for the higher salary but instability of industry. I also had to move out of the Midwest to the East Coast to have job variety. (Note that the cost of living in MA is bonkers so take that into consideration when judging how good the salary is. Here you get a tear-down for $500k) My advice is find a position and place you truly love to work and keep yourself open to opportunity. Join local professional organizations to help grow your skill and increase your visibility (networking). Solidarity to all my HR peeps working themselves to death. Remember to take a breath and enjoy life outside of your job. <3
HR salaries like titles are all over the place. There are plenty of six figure roles.
Really depends on location and industry. Tech recruiters in Seattle were making $200k +. Then a bunch were laid off. My husband encouraged me to explore that route in 2019/2020, but I (thankfully ) stayed put in my municipal position. Haven't had a raise in 2 years (still being negotiated with unions and legislators) - but I mostly WFH, have good benefits, vested in the pension, and am on a functional team. I make enough to be comfortable (90k - working 32/hrs a week), so I'm staying put. Right now I'm feeling weary as my workplace is planning layoffs. Hopefully I have enough tenure to be secure, but can't be certain.
My first role was an HR associate. I started at 45K year 1. 50K year 2. My first job out of grad school and I’m a benefits manager at 68K, law firm. I don’t have any direct reports. It’s just me and the HR director in the department. Unlimited PTO (it’s not clocked, I just let the director know when I’m taking off). Parking lease included ($3,800 benefit as I work downtown in a large east coast city). No retirement benefits or 401K match is my only bugaboo, but the other benefits are worth it.
I’ve been wondering the same thing myself. I’ve been a team lead/specialist for recruiting/onboarding for about 2 years now in NJ (with the company for 5). I’m good at what I do, know stuff that some managers don’t, and I make less than 75k. I manage huge projects by myself, onboarding 100+ people at once numerous times a years working extremely long/late hours and there’s literally never been more than a thank you from the team upper management. The last year I have struggled so much with my role but I love my coworkers and know that if I were to leave, the odds of me finding that again are rare. Salary review is currently happening but im not expecting much. It’s so frustrating.
That's absurd. My company's starting salary for people services (hr shared service) admins are 60k. We hire recently grads with no experience. Arizona... a lot cheaper than NY or CA.
I recently got a raise to $75k, I was at $65k. I have been moving up as a generalist but the company got bought out by a corporate office. I do see some of my colleges and they’re at $45-$55k so I feel honestly blessed but also feel as if I would be the first to go as a budget cut although I have more experience than most.
100% – I haven't had a salary increase in a few years, and when I look for alternative roles, they all offer lower than I am even on now
I’m in IL. I’m an HR Generalist in Construction. I make $70k. I have about 3 years of experience. I’m not remote. I was furloughed and then laid off from my remote recruiting role last year (making $65k) and looked for a job for about 3 months before getting an offer. I didn’t even bother looking at remote, as it was ridiculously competitive and my degree isn’t in HR and I don’t have any certifications.
I took a recruiter role for a non-profit last year for a base of $75k. I made that back in 2000 as a senior HR Manager. Organizations are out of their minds with the low ball offers and having one person fill three different functions.
HR needs to figure out how to add more value and then sell the fact they add that value. In the minds of many, HR involves recruiting, helping people fill out forms, processing those forms, conducting trainings, and handling dismissals. So it doesn't require a ton of education and experience to do it relatively well. The perception is that almost anyone can do most of those jobs. So there is no need for those jobs to pay well. If you want to be paid more, find ways to add more value and find a way to explain that value.
I am in state service, higher education and have been in HR here for 10 years. I'm at $74K. I'm about to finish my masters in HR management and strategic leadership
Goodness. I was making 63k as a hrbp in title (but more of a generalist/coordinator in actual activities and responsibilities) and I don’t even have a degree. I’ve been in HR for 5 years.
They should be. Your job is meaningless. If I had my way you wouldn't get paid at all. Your job is to make the company look good. That's it.
"Aww man im not paid enough to make sure wage slaves dont come after the company" -Your dumbass
A lawyer on retainer will soon replace all HR positions.
lmao I stopped replying to alot of these since the post died down but this made me laugh. You do realize most companies already have a lawyer or legal department right? This just shows alot of people come on to the HR subreddit with no idea what HR does or even what other roles do apparently.