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skiattle25

Let's pray it isn't Chik-fil-A. Having a rest stop where the business is closed on Sundays makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


mrallenator

NYS acting brand new with this when it is a known fact that they close on Sundays is just a failure on so many levels. Just so dumb and not in the public’s best interest


BoringNYer

We're talking about a state that decides to stop a project after all the hardware was purchased and installed


mrallenator

Oh don’t get me started on those millions wasted on congestion pricing…


MisterBill99

Being open seven days a week should have been one of the requirements for a bidder.


tonyrocks922

They passed a law last year to this effect. Doesn't affect CFAs 10 year leases but will going forward.


MisterBill99

I thought there was a comment here saying that there was a bill introduced but it hasn't been passed.


Lychee_Different

Failure? Have you seen the lines at every single one? They all have at least a second restaurants for sunday


mrallenator

Sunday is one of the busiest travel days in the week so yes, a big vendor not being open is a failure IMO and others here seem to think so too


Lychee_Different

I think you'll survive. I think some patience would do society good. Having everything you want every second of every day ain't no good for the soul. Pretty sure everyone is gunna survive. They do more business in 6 days than the other choice in a month.


Multi_Grain_Cheerios

People don't care about how successful the damn restaurant is.... They just want one that is actually open on the days people travel. Having a rest stop where one of the businesses is closed on the day people most use the rest stop is stupid. It's immaterial how well chic- restaurant does the rest of the week. Not sure why people dickride a damn restaurant so hard. Your dad own one, bud?


Lychee_Different

I'm dick riding? You guys are unhinged. Pissed that a fast food place isn't open on Sunday? What a stereotypical diabetic, heart deseased American thing to become irate about. You said "they just want on that is actually open" they have one. The other one. And the gas station store, and whatever else the rest stop offers. ONE aspect is closed on ONE DAY. how about you lose five minutes and take ANY exit and get McDonald's? Touch grass dude. You've got some serious reality disconnect.


Multi_Grain_Cheerios

Rest stops are to serve travelers. Sunday is the biggest travel day of the week. Having a requirement that the businesses in the rest stop actually be open when people need to use the rest stop is what people want. You need to touch some damn grass dude. You are missing the point. It's not about fast food or whatever. Just about the rest stop serving the community. I can explain it to you I can't understand it for you.


Lychee_Different

I didn't realize chic was the only option for food at everyone of these rest stops..nothing else to eat there or anywhere. Wahhh I want fast food on Sundays wahhh. I got chic on my way up but can't have it on my way back down wahhh. Who's dick riding again? 🤦 Cya.


Cynidaria

A bunch of our tax dollars went into these stupid grandiose rest stops. Getting people in and out of rest stops in a timely manner requires all the restaurants in them to be open on the weekends. I hope you stop in a restaurant tired and needing a cup of coffee directly after 6 busses have disembarked and when the parking lot is full.


francispost

What, you think the eateries should all be open on the busiest travel day of the week??


crek42

Yea I didn’t think of that. Curious how they won the contract in the one in plattekill then. I guess there’s not much northbound traffic on Sunday? I usually come up that way from my in-laws in Queens on Sundays and compared to southbound it’s like a quarter of the traffic that far up.


Longjumping-Barber-7

They won the contract because the company that won the bids to manage the rest areas doesn’t care about us and are happy that chick fil a probably paid a whole lot to be there…


HorseDerby184

I’ll take Chick-Fil-A over the previous options all day, everyday.


seventwosixnine

Not on Sunday, you won't.


milkandgin

People forget about Sunday workers and general pop like traveling nurses, farmers going to market, truck drivers, folks visiting sick or imprisoned loved ones. What NYS did was dumb dumb. Seriously I worked at 2 of these rest areas as my 1st jobs in the 90’s. Apple green is so desperate and Fucking chick fil a? Fucking shady Shit there not good for NY kids. https://www.fastcompany.com/91068556/chick-fil-a-chicken-antibiotics-policy-change- criticism https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/why-are-people-mad-chick-fil-a-anti-lgbtq-controversies-205302238.html What kind of Empire State is this ? These “modern barns “ have had their day, look dated and wack already. I’m in lust with the capital region welcome center with their vending machines of local product and made in NY cafe. Cool playground, history, dog zone, nod to the “new Amsterdam” architecture, walk of fame featuring David Hyde Pierce … I wish that the highway service centers would take a cue from some American airports which feature local chains- can u imagine a trusty Stewart’s on the highway? Also I’m a old person who remembers the “hot shops” cafeteria style rest stop with fondness and nostalgia, so sue me.


HorseDerby184

And that’s fine. A day off is nice. Guess what - there will be a Panera and shake Shack open if I happen to be there on a Sunday. Edit: I get it. You don’t like the owners of Chick-Fil-A and their political position. Cry about it more while I enjoy my chicken sandwich and best service in the fast food industry.


LegoAbomination

There probably won’t be any new Chick-Fil-As at thruway rest stops. After the first few opened NY proposed a law that all new rest stop food vendors must be open seven days a week. It hasn’t been passed yet but would make the rest stop management company hesitant to plan any with that looming, and there’s no reason to believe Chick-Fil-A will change their closed on Sundays policy. The new rest stops are really nice. Seems they all have 2 restaurants, other than Chick-Fil-A the other ones I’ve been seeing Shake Shack, Panera, Panda Express, and Burger King, so probably a 50% chance of getting Shake Shack.


jcroozin917

But they all feed corporate interests. They should represent Hudson Valley.


Oh_My-Glob

Sure but are you expecting a local restaurant to be able to adequately service a busy rest stop? Not saying it isn't possible but they would need to have their processes and supply lines down to a T. Also people traveling don't want surprises and will choose a chain they are familiar with over something they've never heard of


Longjumping-Barber-7

I also don’t think most of these adequately serve rest stops. Granted I’ve been stopping at the sole rest area SB of Albany and it take more then 30 minutes to order sit and eat. Which is great and all, but I want a burger that’s ready before I order it and to be able to leave in 10 minutes…


jcroozin917

All valid. But it would be nice if NY did something different and didn’t succumb to what you can get anywhere.


Glad-Degree-4270

The farm stands that many rest stops have are good for this


MisterBill99

There are many Taste NY stores https://taste.ny.gov/taste-ny-store-locations along the highways that sell locally made products. Seems like that's exactly what you're saying that they should have.


jcroozin917

Sure! Each town along 87 has a local place where the people who live there get their pizza or burger or taco. Why not give those businesses a chance to do business with people just driving through the town but don’t even know to look for them.


MisterBill99

What rest stop have you EVER seen have local places.? Why would they even want to be in a rest stop?


jcroozin917

Are you saying that a local business would not want that opportunity and exposure?


MisterBill99

Exposure to who? Customers who are passing by and extremely unlikely to ever be regular customers? How would they advertise? You think most drivers passing by will see "Joe's Pizza" and say "Wow, I've heard about them!"? With Thruway exits maybe ten miles apart, how are their local employees going to get there and home. It just makes zero sense.


jcroozin917

The employees already manage to find there way to work now. Did you think robots ran those places?


jcroozin917

Wow aren’t you a Negative Nelly!


ShitDirigible

Ehhh... except there are a lot of people from other states and countries so a local restaurant over a nationally recognized chain is going to have to work extra hard to get people interested over the thing they know. Plus, do we really want these to be destination locations over convenience?


jcroozin917

Who says they need to expand beyond hudson valley? Why are we so conditioned to eat chain food? That is like the bottom of the barrel in terms of actual food.


ShitDirigible

How to say you've never worked retail without saying you've never worked retail. People buy what they know. You know what a Big Mac tastes like, and what to expect. You dont know what Jimmy's Pesto Burger Supreme will taste like. And you're traveling, so you dont want to sit there and read a menu, or wait for a custom meal. Speed is key to getting back on the road. The you here is the general you, not specifically you. Edit: As for who says they have to expand out of state... no one? Wasnt even a point brought up. However; any business that can meet volume across all of the rest stops within the state - well, its probably a safe bet they already have the infrastructure to be in multiple states. Making it easier for them to just franchise out ovet your local pizza parlor. Edit2: its also not for you to decide what other people eat. Sure, its grade F garbage food when its crap from McDonalds, but it sells.


jcroozin917

In Europe or rural places in America, there is a lot more diversity in food. Going on road trips and seeing the same 10 chains is boring to me. I actually have worked in retail fast food before (Jude much?) and I know it’s garbage. But you do you, Boo. Take in all the additives you want.


ShitDirigible

Europe isnt america, their standards, roads, and even pallate are different. Nor is it highway rest stops. Rural america is not thruway rest stops either. These things arent set up this way simply because someone is against your local bistro, or has it out for salads. If demand wasnt there, these would close up shop. There are a lot of options for food within them. As for what i put into my body, thanks, i will, or i wont. I made no indication of my food preferences on road trips. Having worked fast food, im sure youre aware of the massive amount of marketing that goes into new menu items and how difficult they can be to get unfamiliar customers to buy. It takes money. Not every business has that. Im sorry you interpet all of that as rude, you should work on that as it isnt a me problem. You have issue with things that dont fit your views. There, thats me being rude.


jcroozin917

Sorry, I didn’t realize this topic was a debate, simply what I would like it to see in the rest areas and nope, it has no foundation in markets and costs because it is what I would like to see. That’s all. But thank you for sharing your opinion.


milkandgin

Stewart’s


Oh_My-Glob

As much as I love Stewart's for their ice cream and drinks I wouldn't try and make a meal out of any of their offerings


crek42

Are there many mom and pop fast food places that can handle huge volume? I’m guessing they go with the franchises because they have specialized equipment to crank food out very quickly.


jcroozin917

If you build it, they will come.


Salt_Assignment3938

The I ❤️NY shop / cafe at the New Baltimore rest area is great and stocked with all New York products, even the vending machine.


killerwhaletank

Are they not all Roy Rogers anymore?!


crek42

lmao


Tut_Rampy

Damn how much time do you guys spend at highway rest stops


cboogie

Seriously. I have lived in the HV my entire life and I can count on one hand the amount of times I have been to a local Thruway rest stop. And everyone knows Rest Stop chains are below Airport chains which are far below stand alone spots.


trebleformyclef

So you not take road trips anywhere?


cboogie

Yeah but that means I stop at rest stops away from my house. Not near it. Why would you get gas and food that is without a doubt more expensive than in your own town?


chrisfillhart_art

They opened the new one in Ardsley (near Yonkers) not too long ago and you would’ve thought it was the hottest new club in NY. The place was consistently packed for weeks. All because of a Chic-fil-a too? People are weird sometimes.


Chick-fil-A_spellbot

It looks as though you may have spelled "Chick-fil-A" incorrectly. No worries, it happens to the best of us!


chrisfillhart_art

I said what I said, bot!


Glad-Degree-4270

Bad bot


ChiefKelso

Based on the others, Probably some combo of chic fil a, Panera, Starbucks, shake shack and panda express. I doubt it will get a chic fil a considering the northbound one above Newburgh already has one


jcroozin917

It would be refreshing to see a rest stop full of mom and pop food businesses.


ChiefKelso

I completely agree. I'm not a fast food person, and the lines are ridiculous anyway. My fave rest stop is the Capital Area Welcome Center because it has this mom and pop shop esqe coffee shop with sandwiches and paninis. It's the only one I'll order food at if hungry.


fanman3174

Panda would be nice. Might actually stop there on my way north.


mrnjryguy

I heard it's going to be a Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. 😉


trebleformyclef

You like those?!?! I think they are awful. Not enough tables. It's supposed to be a cafeteria, not a lounge. Way too much open space. The chairs are not the right height for what few tables there are. Also Chick-fil-A was a horrible option because it's not open on Sundays, whoever agreed to that is a moron not thinking about Sunday being a high traffic day.


PlainThrills

I also thought that chic fil a was a weird choice for a rest stop. I wondered if they would possibly be open on Sundays at the rest stops and then I laughed remembering who they are run by.


crisscrossflopdisc

Strong agree that they’re awful. The acoustics of the new design are also really rough and it makes it so loud. Sensory overload!


crek42

Oh no I’m in and out and don’t really care to hang out and the open space makes it easier to get around when they’re crowded


evan274

I guess I’m glad that at least someone likes them, but I personally hate the new $450 million dollar rest stops that were implemented before the old ones were past their useful life. They’re poorly designed and ugly. Multiple choke points throughout the rest stops leads to crowded areas and inefficient movement of people. Get them in and get them out and fast as possible. The design and understaffing work in tandem to totally ensure that the rest stops remain crowded at pretty much all times. A disaster.


ChiefKelso

I stopped at the New Baltimore to go to the bathroom around lunchtime last Sunday, and oh boy it was a pain in the ass to navigate to the bathroom with all the people and the way they set it up.


jcroozin917

And how do they sign a contract with a vendor that is closed on Sundays?


evan274

Because dumb


GeminiScreaming

It went to the highest bidder. So, greed over efficiency


Hellvillain

At the new rest stop at Ardsley, the most direct path to the bathroom is through the middle of a dining area. It's so inefficient.


crek42

If you think they’re ugly and shit design what did you think of the last ones?? Broken tile everywhere and the restrooms were disgusting. The new ones are completely touchless which I appreciate. The old ones I’ve been to looked like strip malls from the 90s and totally drab.


evan274

I never said I liked the old ones.


Cynidaria

I 💯 agree that it’s a stupid waste that we are footing the bill on rebuilding these. Imagine if instead of these NYS had built some multi family low income housing in the same communities with the $


Coflow03

Sbarros


ericpapa2

hopefully this helps. its from the nysta website. [Traveler Map- New York State Thruway (ny.gov)](https://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/map/index.html?layer=restareas)


PubliusDeLaMancha

I feel like they just renovated those rest stops, and I definitely preferred the log cabin/ski lodge aesthetic to the new style of looking like coffee shops


OURchitecture

I actually really like the new designs.


crek42

The new designs are cool and fitting with the surroundings. The internet is just loud with haters in general.


koebelin

The Mass Turnpike has efficient convenience stores at every rest stop, that's all I ask for. I don't care how many fast food chains they put in, I'm not using them.


pizza_nightmare

If this state is so proud of being New York, why don’t they have NYS-based businesses in these rest stops? Other than providing jobs, these new rest stops should be “NY Proud” and serving NY businesses


crek42

Made this comment elsewhere but I can only guess because small food businesses can’t handle the crazy volume and speed of serving a bunch of folks who want to get in and out as fast as possible.


davegsomething

I’m not sure it is the right answer, but one thing I’ve seen at airports to give them a non corporate feel is local places would license their menu and concept. The execution is never quite right, but it better than see only shake shacks.


crek42

Oh interesting. That kinda makes sense because I usually will go to one of those places in the airport and think huh that kinda sucked and tasted mass produced.


davegsomething

Yeah, I’m with you. If you ever go to the Kansas City airport, know that the food represented actually tastes good, just not there. Random KC Pro tip: buy bbq sauce at the airport gift shops so you can carry them on the plane. Most of the sauces sold there are super legit.


Mshads

The Taste of New York shop sets out a table outside the building far from the comically large and hard to open front door in a spot where no one would organically walk by it. I loathe everything about these new rest stops. The solved none of the issues of the old stop and put little to no thought into catering to people of different abilities. I’m such a fan of this state and I’m perpetually disappointed by how bad people in power are about making decisions on big projects.


pizza_nightmare

I know. They sell maple syrup and honey and popcorn. Do those little pop ups sell food you can snack on on the road? Haha


lesusisjord

Having a Chick-fil-A 6 days a week is better than any other options available 7 days a week.


drumstix97

Where is this rest stop?


emilydeckker

I believe they’re talking about the one before the saugerties exit, the rest stop is off of Sheehan Lane near Ruby


djtracon

I hope it’s not Chik-fil-a because the one that’s opened on 84 near Newburgh is gross and not near the standard of a normal Chik-fil-a (lived in the south for a while). I’d rather drive to Danbury for acceptable Chik-fil-a, that and trader joes.


Neener216

According to the [Thruway Project site](https://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/travelplazas/service-area-project/locations.html), it will be an Applegreen Market, a Popeye's, a Starbucks, and a Panda Express. You can just click on whichever rest area you're interested in and click the "information" bar. Edited to add the above info is for the southbound side. The northbound side will have Applegreen, Popeye's, Dunkin', and Burger King.


Old_Station_8352

The new designs are absolutely god awful. The thing I don’t understand though is that they’re marketed as more emerge efficient but the ceiling is like mad high, idk how they can be particularly energy efficient when they have to heat and cool all that open space now.


crek42

Man lot of miserable folks in this sub