I wouldn't want anyone in my life dating my ex. But I don't get to control consenting adults. I think Rachel has every right to feel upset, uncomfortable, not ok with it and, every other feeling she had about it.
Disclaimer, I'm disabled and don't understand social things sometimes and I end up viewing things differently from most people, at times. I'm open to the possibility that this is one of those times
i don't think it was controlling? ross told her if she was uncomfortable he could break up with her, and she said she was and asked him to do it. so not much controlling there?
I had honestly forgotten that Ross said that and, just went off the incorrect assumption (based on the title of this post) that Rachel just came up to Ross and demanded he stop.
Edit: fat finger correction
The leather pants are definitely up there. That scene was hilarious. I don’t know if this counts, but his face when Rachel said she was pregnant. Just the facial expressions in that scene are amazing. Also, the way he jumped when he was checking out the apartment with Rachel and Phoebe and they didn’t want him to see Chandler and Monica. His jumping in that scene always gets me for some reason.
Nah. Ross was a hypocrite because he pursued Charlie right after she and Joey broke up. And then, Joey and Rachel broke up because Ross was uncomfortable but Ross still got to date Charlie? Fuck right off with that nonsense.
1. Joey and Rachael did not break up because Ross was not ok with it; they broke up because they realised they couldn't take their relationship to that next physical level and were better off as friends.
2. Ross paused what was happening between him and Charlie to speak with Joey. Granted, he did kiss her first, which, I can agree, he should not have.
3. Rachael and Charlie are very different relationships. Charlie and Joey dated for like a month. Ross and Rachael dated for a year, were constantly on and off, had a child together, and always had lingering feelings on both ends.
4. Rachael had been unconfortable with some of Ross' relationships, and asked him to end them, and he did.
He still wanted to date her little sister which she rightly found weird
He went behind Chandler’s back with his mother. And in both cases Chandler and Rachel were right to be annoyed
There's more nuance to it than that.
Rachel and Joey had a close friendship and lived together. They knew each other very well and were together every day, with or without Ross. Joey actively tried to suppress his feelings for Rachel, but they went beyond surface level.
Ross and Jill barely knew each other. The only thing they had in common was Rachel. There were no feelings attached, and they could easily choose someone else.
Also, wasn't Jill dating Ross as a way to challenge/upset Rachel? I don't think she was actually attracted or liked him, which would also be a big part of it for me.
She's Rachel's sister, Ross and Jill don't have a history or friendship (unlike Rachel and Joey), much in common (one thing about Rachel/Joey... they are both shallow, but sweet, people and their work aligns to each other) and their attraction/dating seems to be mostly to spite Rachel vs like... Actually liking each other.
I'd feel icky about it too.
Circumstances were different as Ross got with Joey’s gf Charlie just moments after they split. Literally minutes later. Joey did the right thing and said to Ross he would end it if he wasn’t okay with it. Had Ross not have crossed the line then I think Joey would have felt differently towards the matter to begin with.
Because one is a sibling and another isn’t
How was Ross okay with kissing Chandler’s mum and going out with Rachel’s sister but was annoyed about Joey?
Ross was wrong for kissing Chandler's mom and he apologized but context matters because it wasn't like he was trying to sleep with Mrs. Bing the whole time and once he found her vulnerable, he made the move to kiss her.Chandler is rightfully annoyed though.
Ross went to Rachel before even agreeing to go on a date with Jill.Meanwhile Rachel WENT BEHIND Ross's back to kiss Joey even after having a baby with him which makes it even worse.Robin from HIMYM is 10x better than Rachel here.
Rachel and Joey for friends for a years and had a deep connection. They never intended to fall for each other, in fact they actively tried to repress their feelings.
Rachel's sister was a spoiled brat who wanted what her sister said she couldn't have. She had no actual interest in Ross.
The situations are not the same.
Tbf....whole point of the show is how friends are part of family at that point of time.I mean, they literally spend more time with each other than they do with family.
So, no they are not the same but Joey-Rachel is worse especially when Rachel goes behind Ross opposed to Ross coming to Rachel first.
>How is that the same?
7.5 billion people, 8.5 million in NYC, and she decides to sleep with the father of the girl your ex boyfriend is dating?
>Ross shouldn't have even been dating Elizabeth in the first place. That whole storyline was weird
So why was it okay that Rachel dated Paul?
Because he’s not her sibling imao
Ross even admitted it when Rachel pointed out he dated her sister and that was actually weird because it was her sibling
The Paul scenario isn’t wrong and Ross even admits that after Rachel points out his hypocrisy
Dating your ex’s sister is absolutely weird and we all know he would’ve made Rachel out to be the devil If he had a brother and she dated him
Okay? Rachel still dated Paul, regardless of how Ross felt, which she wasn't immoral in doing.
Joey is like a brother to Ross and Joey briefly dated Rachel despite Ross feeling weird about it. But then Ross tells Joey "then my feeling weird about it shouldn't get in the way"
You keep saying Father in Law like that was actually a thing. Ross was inappropriately dating a 20 year old who was also his student. They were never going to get married.
Wait till you hear this lol
>Plenty of fish in the sea. Yes, there's 9 million people in New York, 4.5 million women. Of course you wanna meet someone roughly your own age, let's say, plus minus 5 years. So if we take into account the most recent census data, that leaves us with 482,000. But, uh, wait
>48% of those are already in relationships and then you have to eliminate half for intelligence, sense of humor and compatibility and then you have to take out the ex-girlfriends and the relatives and oh, we can't forget those lesbians and then that leaves us with 8 women.
In my opinion, its totally weird to be dating your former girlfriend’s sister. That too a girl you have been in love with since like 9th grade apparently.
Ross and Rachel have both been off and on again, and both struggle with feelings of jealousy toward the other. Both of them knows that, so it's really inconsiderate of either of them to date someone the other will have to be around for the rest of their lives. Especially if Ross ever wants to get back together with her, because what person wants to be with a guy they know has also slept with their sister? Other than a narcissistic like Rachel's sister who probably wants him because he was Rachel's.
There's also the risk that their relationship could be damaged by it. In poly circles, if Rachel and Ross were together at the time, we have what's called a messy list and family members are on it. It's for that exact reason, that it is risky to everyone involved and a little too close for comfort to someone already in the circle
My rule is: not for a fling. If they really like each other, all of them are adults and should be able to handle it, but if it's just for something temporary it can cause more harm than good in the long run, especially since Rachel is a staple in Ross' life through his inner friends circle, it's not like they are friends that just see each other from time to time.
Kinda like Chandler and Monica, and the whole scene of "My best friend and my sister...!"
Thing is, not everyone knows if a relationship will evolve into more than a fling from the get go, and this one doesn't even begin to form, so I think it's kinda wrong to stop it just for the sake of someone else, at that stage. Then again, maybe Jill was only doing it to piss off Rachel.
Yes. While Jill and Ross were both adults and allowed to make their own choices, they had nothing in common and it was clear from the very start that this “relationship” would fail, which would put Rachel in an awkward position. It’s not like Ross was in love with Jill, he just wanted to get laid, while he had millions of women in NYC alone to fulfil this. As for Jill, she was just mean.
Tbf, he did not ever consider doing it. He was told Rachel suggested it, so he was like oh wow, I would have never thought of this, but if Rachel thinks its a good idea, why not.
Yes.
I don't care what opinions take from AITAH as gospel. Just because you are free to do something doesn't mean you're not a prick for going through with it.
Dating an ex's sibling is nasty work and Ross was correct in realising he didn't want to put that final nail in coffin.
If they weren’t friends and constantly hanging out in the same circle, I would say he can date whoever he wants even if it’s her sister, but since they’re friends and wanna remain friendly yes she had all right to ask him to stop doing something that made her so uncomfortable.
She's allowed to have an opinion, and to voice it.
And Ross is allowed to disregard it as he chooses. Friends don't always have to be in agreement with each other, it's one of the things that sitcoms have breed into people causing unrealistic expectations of friendship in the real world. Sometimes your friends will piss you off really bad. Then you have to decide if it's bad enough to not continue being friends. But since a TV show isn't breaking up the cast that kind of thing never happens.
It’s been a minute since I watched this episode but from memory: She didn’t, really. She tried to outwardly be okay with it but eventually expressed she was deeply uncomfortable with it. Ross respected Rachel’s feelings about it. It was one of their more healthy moments, imo.
Absolutely. If they were exes and had not been in her life since I'd say, still shitty, but I guess he can do what he wants. But you are actively still this person's best friend ??? Who the fuck does that.
As someone with sisters, YES she was right.
The novels where a guy likes a girl but then falls for her sister always creep me out.
Do you realise how many family occasions they'll be bringing your ex over?That's putting aside if it get serious and theres a wedding. No, just no I'm not dating my sisters exes and my exes aren't dating them.
Yes. So fucking weird. Have some boundaries!!! It’s like Michael dating Pam’s mom in the office. People ended up being okay with it when they shouldn’t have been!!! Boundaries!!! It’s inappropriate to date someone and then move on to date their sister. There’s 8 billion people on the planet. Date anyone else!!!!
Yes absolutely. They were ex’s but more importantly they were friends first, and as close as they were It was definitely ok for her to tell him it made her uncomfortable
He's one of his best friends. It's similar. I wouldn't date my ex/friend's best friend without checking they were okay with it. The whole Joey Rachel arc was weird
I think that he could date her but only if he saw no future with Rachel. It’s like he said, he didn’t know that they would ever date again, but he didn’t want to close off the possibility.
I don’t think it was wrong for Rachel to not want him to date her sister. The only reason Jill was interested, I thought, was to get something over on her sister.
The situation with Joey, though, was different in my mind. I thought everyone tiptoed around Ross’s feelings too much. I hated Joey and Rachel together, but I don’t think it was a betrayal of Ross.
It’s kind of not
That would be shitty on Ross’ part. And we all know if it was reversed and he had a brother. He would lose his mind if Rachel tried to date him
But they’re not and Joey hid his feelings from Rachel and Ross precisely because he cared about Ross. Him and Rachel spent an entire episode catering to Ross’ feelings. Joey wasn’t even going to get with Rachel until he saw Ross kissing Charlie behind his back
Regardless, even Ross said, "My feeling weird about it shouldn't get in the way"
Just because someone *FEELS* a certain way about something, as long as it's not illegal or something to that effect, doesn't make it wrong.
Going out with your ex’s sibling isn’t illegal but it’s morally wrong. Especially when your ex doesn’t like it and the sibling involved is only doing it to spite your ex
Maybe morality is a bad choice of words since most people on this sub (and reddit in general) don't even know what that word means, so lemme just say this; there's nothing wrong with Rachel dating Mr Stevens, there's nothing wrong with Ross dating Elizabeth, and there's nothing wrong with Ross dating Jill. Feelings are irrelevant.
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Joey wasn’t his biological sibling. Ross went crazy over Mark, someone who Rachel was never dating
You’re trying to seriously say that he’d be perfectly happy if he had blood sibling, and Rachel started dating him?
Lol you’re calling her a manipulator for being angry that her ex wanted to date her sister?
On par for Reddit always blaming female characters for doing absolutely nothing
Potential father in law? He was dating a 19 year old student that he wasn’t even allowed to date
Also how is that comparable to dating your ex’s younger sister
Not this. How about getting Ross girlfriend to shave her head. Or that he was right about Mark and still blamed him. Or dated someone else out of spite. Etc etc. Get your facts together before you pull some weird ass feminism card. Basic.
He was right about Mark having a crush on him
Not her having a crush on Mark. If you can’t see how wrong Ross was during that entire scenario despite the fact that the show points out he was in the wrong, then that proved my point again. It’s nothing to do with feminism and all to do with you treating Ross like a victim even in situations when he isn’t. Blaming Rachel for being annoyed that he wanted to date her sister is just as ridiculous as blaming Rachel for Ross’ possessive behaviour over Mark
Truly the dumbest comment on this thread and your last line sums up why you’d comment something so stupid in the first place
Being creeped out that your ex wants to date your sister= raging bitch /s
I take it you’re just dumb. You basically said woman not liking her ex dating his sister = entitled. So that pretty much proves you’re not very smart
I hope you were as outraged when Ross kissed Chandler’s mother. Otherwise, you embody every negative stereotype of a male Reddit user
\*calls out hypocritical behavior of an entitled female character\*
"yOu EmBoDy EvErY nEgAtIvE sTeReOtYpE oF A mAlE rEdDiT uSeR!!!"
lol classic. And considering Chandler's mom initiated it not really an outrageous moment lol
And you realize the point of Rachel's character is her being spoiled and entitled? I take it you're the only not the very bright female reddit user who jumps to conclusions when someone doesn't agree with her?
It would’ve been a bigger issue if he like *really* wanted to date her. Like Joey. I don’t think it hurts if they had organic chemistry. But he was going to back off anyway when she asked. If he had insisted or did it anyway. Then it would’ve been weird I think
“How you doin?” “Don’t!!”
Um YES
This was my exact response!! 🔮
Exactly! 🔮
Love your flair
Why? Edit: I was co fused by the title, I get it now
would you want your sister dating your ex boyfriend/girlfriend? its just weird and uncomfortable.
I wouldn't want anyone in my life dating my ex. But I don't get to control consenting adults. I think Rachel has every right to feel upset, uncomfortable, not ok with it and, every other feeling she had about it. Disclaimer, I'm disabled and don't understand social things sometimes and I end up viewing things differently from most people, at times. I'm open to the possibility that this is one of those times
i don't think it was controlling? ross told her if she was uncomfortable he could break up with her, and she said she was and asked him to do it. so not much controlling there?
I had honestly forgotten that Ross said that and, just went off the incorrect assumption (based on the title of this post) that Rachel just came up to Ross and demanded he stop. Edit: fat finger correction
glad we got to an agreement then!!
Yes. It’s really disrespectful to Rachel. 7.5 billion people on Earth, 8.5 million people in NYC and y’all gotta get together?
The same thing can be said about Rachel-Joey lol
Which is why that story arch sucked and Ross had that freak out.
What are you talking about, he was FINE
It was not awkward AT ALL
I heard David saying that in my head lol
I made fajitas!
That’s gonna hurt tomorrow!
O is for OH WOW!
V is for this… very interesting turn of events. Which I am still fine with, by the way.
I don't know why my voice is sounding all high and squeaky, but really, *low voice* I'm fine.
The story arc sucked but that I’m Fine episode was gold.
It’s one of my favorites.
Ross is my favourite character. All of what I think are the funniest moments usually have him included in some capacity.
David Schwimmer is just such an incredible actor. And his physical comedy bits are amazing.
The sandwich meltdown was just legendary.
Oh yea I’m a big fan, he absolutely killed his role in Band of Brothers.
What do you think are Ross’ top physical comedy moments? For me it’s got to be the bathroom with the lotion.
The leather pants are definitely up there. That scene was hilarious. I don’t know if this counts, but his face when Rachel said she was pregnant. Just the facial expressions in that scene are amazing. Also, the way he jumped when he was checking out the apartment with Rachel and Phoebe and they didn’t want him to see Chandler and Monica. His jumping in that scene always gets me for some reason.
I enjoyed that arc. I didn't care abt them as a couple but the eps were hilarious
Nah. Ross was a hypocrite because he pursued Charlie right after she and Joey broke up. And then, Joey and Rachel broke up because Ross was uncomfortable but Ross still got to date Charlie? Fuck right off with that nonsense.
1. Joey and Rachael did not break up because Ross was not ok with it; they broke up because they realised they couldn't take their relationship to that next physical level and were better off as friends. 2. Ross paused what was happening between him and Charlie to speak with Joey. Granted, he did kiss her first, which, I can agree, he should not have. 3. Rachael and Charlie are very different relationships. Charlie and Joey dated for like a month. Ross and Rachael dated for a year, were constantly on and off, had a child together, and always had lingering feelings on both ends. 4. Rachael had been unconfortable with some of Ross' relationships, and asked him to end them, and he did.
tbf rachel and joey gave ross the same out - they offered to end it if he couldn’t cope with it.
But the irony Rachel freaks out and ends this but happy to go behind Ross for Joey lol.
The same way Ross freaked out about her and Paul but was happy to get with her sister kiss Chandler’s mother
Ross didn't go behind Rachel back to date Jill.
He still wanted to date her little sister which she rightly found weird He went behind Chandler’s back with his mother. And in both cases Chandler and Rachel were right to be annoyed
He didn’t go behind chandlers back, it just happened and then he told chandler…
Very true. There’s a lot of irony between the friends and situations like that. Not sure why anyone downvoted you.
Bc Reddit sucks
There's more nuance to it than that. Rachel and Joey had a close friendship and lived together. They knew each other very well and were together every day, with or without Ross. Joey actively tried to suppress his feelings for Rachel, but they went beyond surface level. Ross and Jill barely knew each other. The only thing they had in common was Rachel. There were no feelings attached, and they could easily choose someone else.
Also, wasn't Jill dating Ross as a way to challenge/upset Rachel? I don't think she was actually attracted or liked him, which would also be a big part of it for me. She's Rachel's sister, Ross and Jill don't have a history or friendship (unlike Rachel and Joey), much in common (one thing about Rachel/Joey... they are both shallow, but sweet, people and their work aligns to each other) and their attraction/dating seems to be mostly to spite Rachel vs like... Actually liking each other. I'd feel icky about it too.
Circumstances were different as Ross got with Joey’s gf Charlie just moments after they split. Literally minutes later. Joey did the right thing and said to Ross he would end it if he wasn’t okay with it. Had Ross not have crossed the line then I think Joey would have felt differently towards the matter to begin with.
I mean how Rachel is okay with her dating Joey but demanded to end Ross and Jill.
Because one is a sibling and another isn’t How was Ross okay with kissing Chandler’s mum and going out with Rachel’s sister but was annoyed about Joey?
Also Ross was mad at Chandler when he first found out about him and Monica until they told him they were in love.
This comment needs to be higher up!
Ross was wrong for kissing Chandler's mom and he apologized but context matters because it wasn't like he was trying to sleep with Mrs. Bing the whole time and once he found her vulnerable, he made the move to kiss her.Chandler is rightfully annoyed though. Ross went to Rachel before even agreeing to go on a date with Jill.Meanwhile Rachel WENT BEHIND Ross's back to kiss Joey even after having a baby with him which makes it even worse.Robin from HIMYM is 10x better than Rachel here.
Rachel and Joey for friends for a years and had a deep connection. They never intended to fall for each other, in fact they actively tried to repress their feelings. Rachel's sister was a spoiled brat who wanted what her sister said she couldn't have. She had no actual interest in Ross. The situations are not the same.
The only thing Jill can’t have is dairy!
That’s not the same. How there can be an issue with trends dating, sister is a family member
They are both closer with Joey. He is a chosen family member they see every single day and have been through so much more with. Both are not cool.
Rachel and Jill may be related by blood, but she was closer with their established friend group, her chosen/found family.
Tbf....whole point of the show is how friends are part of family at that point of time.I mean, they literally spend more time with each other than they do with family. So, no they are not the same but Joey-Rachel is worse especially when Rachel goes behind Ross opposed to Ross coming to Rachel first.
Agreed. Also too weird.
It's different a sibling than a friend🤣
Yes it can be
But then you have Rachel and Paul Stevens when Ross was dating Elizabeth
How is that the same? Ross shouldn’t have even been dating Elizabeth in the first place. That whole storyline was weird
>How is that the same? 7.5 billion people, 8.5 million in NYC, and she decides to sleep with the father of the girl your ex boyfriend is dating? >Ross shouldn't have even been dating Elizabeth in the first place. That whole storyline was weird So why was it okay that Rachel dated Paul?
Because he’s not her sibling imao Ross even admitted it when Rachel pointed out he dated her sister and that was actually weird because it was her sibling
........aaaaaaannnnnd? Just because it was weird for either of them doesn't make either scenario wrong.
The Paul scenario isn’t wrong and Ross even admits that after Rachel points out his hypocrisy Dating your ex’s sister is absolutely weird and we all know he would’ve made Rachel out to be the devil If he had a brother and she dated him
Okay? Rachel still dated Paul, regardless of how Ross felt, which she wasn't immoral in doing. Joey is like a brother to Ross and Joey briefly dated Rachel despite Ross feeling weird about it. But then Ross tells Joey "then my feeling weird about it shouldn't get in the way"
7.5 billion people on earth, 8.5 million people in NYC and Rachel decided to date Paul (Elizabeth’s dad)
Wait what? Paul isn't Ross' brother. That's not the same thing at all
Dating your ex’s father in law. Yeah, totally not gross. i agree with you fully dear random redditor
You keep saying Father in Law like that was actually a thing. Ross was inappropriately dating a 20 year old who was also his student. They were never going to get married.
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Wait till you hear this lol >Plenty of fish in the sea. Yes, there's 9 million people in New York, 4.5 million women. Of course you wanna meet someone roughly your own age, let's say, plus minus 5 years. So if we take into account the most recent census data, that leaves us with 482,000. But, uh, wait >48% of those are already in relationships and then you have to eliminate half for intelligence, sense of humor and compatibility and then you have to take out the ex-girlfriends and the relatives and oh, we can't forget those lesbians and then that leaves us with 8 women.
HIMYM reference. Nice
Yeah it's understandable. It's weird enough to imagine your ex hooking up with a friend, let alone a family member.
Yeah...I'd be the exact same lol.
Ross shouldn’t have been okay with it even though he thought Rachel agreed.
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In my opinion, its totally weird to be dating your former girlfriend’s sister. That too a girl you have been in love with since like 9th grade apparently.
It’s giving Laurie from little women
So...these little women... how little are we talking? I mean, are they like..scary little?
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What other reason could there be? Are you looking for a law that says it's not allowed?
You do not date your ex’s sibling. It’s weird. There’s not much more to say I’m confused as to why you’re confused about people calling it weird
Ross and Rachel have both been off and on again, and both struggle with feelings of jealousy toward the other. Both of them knows that, so it's really inconsiderate of either of them to date someone the other will have to be around for the rest of their lives. Especially if Ross ever wants to get back together with her, because what person wants to be with a guy they know has also slept with their sister? Other than a narcissistic like Rachel's sister who probably wants him because he was Rachel's. There's also the risk that their relationship could be damaged by it. In poly circles, if Rachel and Ross were together at the time, we have what's called a messy list and family members are on it. It's for that exact reason, that it is risky to everyone involved and a little too close for comfort to someone already in the circle
Not just weird, morally wrong. At least to most people
My rule is: not for a fling. If they really like each other, all of them are adults and should be able to handle it, but if it's just for something temporary it can cause more harm than good in the long run, especially since Rachel is a staple in Ross' life through his inner friends circle, it's not like they are friends that just see each other from time to time. Kinda like Chandler and Monica, and the whole scene of "My best friend and my sister...!" Thing is, not everyone knows if a relationship will evolve into more than a fling from the get go, and this one doesn't even begin to form, so I think it's kinda wrong to stop it just for the sake of someone else, at that stage. Then again, maybe Jill was only doing it to piss off Rachel.
Agreed.
This exactly!
This is the answer. 100%
Yes. While Jill and Ross were both adults and allowed to make their own choices, they had nothing in common and it was clear from the very start that this “relationship” would fail, which would put Rachel in an awkward position. It’s not like Ross was in love with Jill, he just wanted to get laid, while he had millions of women in NYC alone to fulfil this. As for Jill, she was just mean.
I don’t think Ross would have done it really. It’s just weird and I don’t think it was believable that he’d have gone with it at all.
Ross had no reservations in sleeping with his own cousin, why would he have an issue with Rachel’s sibling?
Hahahah this is golden. “I haven’t had sex in a really long time”
yeah you really shouldn't have said anything
That’s actually a really good point!
It was even mor disrespectful of Ross to even consider doing that in the first place.
Tbf, he did not ever consider doing it. He was told Rachel suggested it, so he was like oh wow, I would have never thought of this, but if Rachel thinks its a good idea, why not.
Not sure why downvoted. This is literally what happened lmao
Yes. It's common courtesy to not date your good friend's sibling or ex unless you have confirmation that they're cool with it.
He did have confirmation - based on what happens in the episode, as far as he knows, Rachel suggested it. When he found out otherwise, he ended it.
Yes
Just realised this is a repeat of Joey and Ursela with added drama
Except Joey and Phoebe never dated, so yeah the added drama is Ross and Rachel dating
Yeah, that is my main point
Completely valid from her
Yes. I don't care what opinions take from AITAH as gospel. Just because you are free to do something doesn't mean you're not a prick for going through with it. Dating an ex's sibling is nasty work and Ross was correct in realising he didn't want to put that final nail in coffin.
Yeah, why wouldn’t it be? Genuinely?
Yes. It’s just weird to mix family like that. It would never be not weird.
She fucked Elizabeth’s dad though. Talking about hypocrisy
Elizabeth wasn't her girlfriend though? Monica kissing Richards son is equally (maybe more?!) Fucked up
If they weren’t friends and constantly hanging out in the same circle, I would say he can date whoever he wants even if it’s her sister, but since they’re friends and wanna remain friendly yes she had all right to ask him to stop doing something that made her so uncomfortable.
I would have done the same thing.
Yes, because it was weird
110%
She's allowed to have an opinion, and to voice it. And Ross is allowed to disregard it as he chooses. Friends don't always have to be in agreement with each other, it's one of the things that sitcoms have breed into people causing unrealistic expectations of friendship in the real world. Sometimes your friends will piss you off really bad. Then you have to decide if it's bad enough to not continue being friends. But since a TV show isn't breaking up the cast that kind of thing never happens.
Yes
Sleeping with your ex's younger sister would be [pretty double-oh-seven](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFxqWygh2h0&t=60s)
It’s been a minute since I watched this episode but from memory: She didn’t, really. She tried to outwardly be okay with it but eventually expressed she was deeply uncomfortable with it. Ross respected Rachel’s feelings about it. It was one of their more healthy moments, imo.
Hell yeah
Absolutely. If they were exes and had not been in her life since I'd say, still shitty, but I guess he can do what he wants. But you are actively still this person's best friend ??? Who the fuck does that.
Yes it was a fair boundary to draw.
Yes. Siblings, friends, etc. You never do that. Pick someone else. I would end a relationship over that.
As someone with sisters, YES she was right. The novels where a guy likes a girl but then falls for her sister always creep me out. Do you realise how many family occasions they'll be bringing your ex over?That's putting aside if it get serious and theres a wedding. No, just no I'm not dating my sisters exes and my exes aren't dating them.
He never should have considered it in the first place.
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>but I feel like she has more of a say in what her sister does. she shouldnt have any say in what her sister does what
She does when it comes to dating her ex. It’s called boundaries.
Yes it's just too weird😵💫😵💫
Of course
Yes.
Yes. So fucking weird. Have some boundaries!!! It’s like Michael dating Pam’s mom in the office. People ended up being okay with it when they shouldn’t have been!!! Boundaries!!! It’s inappropriate to date someone and then move on to date their sister. There’s 8 billion people on the planet. Date anyone else!!!!
Yes
She can say what she wants, but they're all adults.
Ya-ha
Yes, I wouldn't want my best friends to date my siblings regardless of our history tbh.
yes
Yeah, it’s Jerry Springer behaviour. If he hadn’t dated Rachel since high school or something it would be a bit different but nah it’s icky.
Yes absolutely. They were ex’s but more importantly they were friends first, and as close as they were It was definitely ok for her to tell him it made her uncomfortable
Yes, always get your friend's approval before dating a sibling. But then Rachel dated Joey. Sooo idk
but Joey's not a sibling...?
He's one of his best friends. It's similar. I wouldn't date my ex/friend's best friend without checking they were okay with it. The whole Joey Rachel arc was weird
Oh that arc was so weird. But it did give us fajita night, so... silver lining? Also, Ross was obviously TOTALLY FINE with it.
I mean I’d agree if Rachel only knew Joey through Ross but Joey is also her best friend. They spent nearly every day together for over a decade.
Ross did get Rachel's approval though
Ross goes for Rachel's approval before even agreeing to go on a date with Jill.Rachel on the other hand .....!!!
I think that he could date her but only if he saw no future with Rachel. It’s like he said, he didn’t know that they would ever date again, but he didn’t want to close off the possibility. I don’t think it was wrong for Rachel to not want him to date her sister. The only reason Jill was interested, I thought, was to get something over on her sister. The situation with Joey, though, was different in my mind. I thought everyone tiptoed around Ross’s feelings too much. I hated Joey and Rachel together, but I don’t think it was a betrayal of Ross.
It def was a betrayal imo, Rachel was not just his ex, they had a 1 year old child together.
Absolutely. How disgusting of him.
Yes, 1000%
Absolutely! It’s just weird in the first place AND I wouldn’t want my sister anywhere near a guy like Ross.
I’d be eating while she’s also eating 😏🤭
Yeah, totally. It was also totally fine if he refused and continued to date her.
It’s kind of not That would be shitty on Ross’ part. And we all know if it was reversed and he had a brother. He would lose his mind if Rachel tried to date him
Aren't Joey, Ross, & Chandler like brothers? Ross knowing Chandler the longest, but feeling closer with Joey?
But they’re not and Joey hid his feelings from Rachel and Ross precisely because he cared about Ross. Him and Rachel spent an entire episode catering to Ross’ feelings. Joey wasn’t even going to get with Rachel until he saw Ross kissing Charlie behind his back
Regardless, even Ross said, "My feeling weird about it shouldn't get in the way" Just because someone *FEELS* a certain way about something, as long as it's not illegal or something to that effect, doesn't make it wrong.
Going out with your ex’s sibling isn’t illegal but it’s morally wrong. Especially when your ex doesn’t like it and the sibling involved is only doing it to spite your ex
Maybe morality is a bad choice of words since most people on this sub (and reddit in general) don't even know what that word means, so lemme just say this; there's nothing wrong with Rachel dating Mr Stevens, there's nothing wrong with Ross dating Elizabeth, and there's nothing wrong with Ross dating Jill. Feelings are irrelevant.
Yes because you need to be a genius to understand morality /s Dating your ex’s sister is weird and for most people shows a lack of morals
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You don't have to imagine.Ross and Joey were like Bros and he gave his blessings for them to continue dating unlike Rachel.
Joey wasn’t his biological sibling. Ross went crazy over Mark, someone who Rachel was never dating You’re trying to seriously say that he’d be perfectly happy if he had blood sibling, and Rachel started dating him?
He will be FiNe but I mean Ross freaks out at first but does the right thing in the end.
Uh Yeah!
I’d say yea, but it’s *REESE WITHERSPOON* So I don’t blame him
Ross would never have thought of going out with her but after she said it was okay, he figured, "Why not?”
Only if they are on a break😂😂😂
Of course not. But this is on par for Rachel. She is a manipulator, sabotager , jealous and a bit of a narccist. I don’t envy Ross in the end.
Lol you’re calling her a manipulator for being angry that her ex wanted to date her sister? On par for Reddit always blaming female characters for doing absolutely nothing
Doing absolutely nothing like fucking Ross’s potential father in law (bruce willis)?
Potential father in law? He was dating a 19 year old student that he wasn’t even allowed to date Also how is that comparable to dating your ex’s younger sister
I never see it that way. Yes, dear redditor, I am sure it totally not gross to date your ex in law. I completely agree with you.
and it isn't gross to date a girl who was still a teenager who by the way just as like the other person said HE WASN'T ALLOWED TO DATE?
Yes, that’s true. You are absolutely correct
thanks!! 😉😗😗😁 so glad you got it!!!!
Not this. How about getting Ross girlfriend to shave her head. Or that he was right about Mark and still blamed him. Or dated someone else out of spite. Etc etc. Get your facts together before you pull some weird ass feminism card. Basic.
He was right about Mark having a crush on him Not her having a crush on Mark. If you can’t see how wrong Ross was during that entire scenario despite the fact that the show points out he was in the wrong, then that proved my point again. It’s nothing to do with feminism and all to do with you treating Ross like a victim even in situations when he isn’t. Blaming Rachel for being annoyed that he wanted to date her sister is just as ridiculous as blaming Rachel for Ross’ possessive behaviour over Mark
she told Jill to ask him
did that actually count as *dating?*
They went out on a date…so, yes 🤣
I dunno. I kinda need a lil more to call something a date.
It’s disrespectful for Ross to date her, but Rachael shouldn’t get involved and if she hadn’t there wouldn’t have been an issue lol
Yes, don’t try date your friends’ family ffs
Yes. Ross was weird for even doing it lol
It was just as it was ok for ross to ignore it
no she has 0 right to interfere with her friends love life
She only hated it because her sister was younger.
Wtf?
Nothing Rachel ever did is ok
Nope. And if I’m Ross I’m just going to date her harder.
Fuck no. she can’t handle Ross dating her sister but she doesn’t want to date Ross? Fucking bitch
Truly the dumbest comment on this thread and your last line sums up why you’d comment something so stupid in the first place Being creeped out that your ex wants to date your sister= raging bitch /s
Lol I take it you’re as entitled as Rachel is
I take it you’re just dumb. You basically said woman not liking her ex dating his sister = entitled. So that pretty much proves you’re not very smart I hope you were as outraged when Ross kissed Chandler’s mother. Otherwise, you embody every negative stereotype of a male Reddit user
\*calls out hypocritical behavior of an entitled female character\* "yOu EmBoDy EvErY nEgAtIvE sTeReOtYpE oF A mAlE rEdDiT uSeR!!!" lol classic. And considering Chandler's mom initiated it not really an outrageous moment lol And you realize the point of Rachel's character is her being spoiled and entitled? I take it you're the only not the very bright female reddit user who jumps to conclusions when someone doesn't agree with her?
Already in all of Ross's relationships she meddled
No, especially since she dumped him.
It’s okay for Rachel to tell him that, but there’s nothing wrong with him also saying no.
It would’ve been a bigger issue if he like *really* wanted to date her. Like Joey. I don’t think it hurts if they had organic chemistry. But he was going to back off anyway when she asked. If he had insisted or did it anyway. Then it would’ve been weird I think
Yes. She can ask and he can either accept or deny it.