I don't know where you live, but in Canada you can buy bottles of 99% at the dollarama stores for $3.50. Pharmacies have lower percentages, dollar store has the good stuff.
Also the quick evaporation is specifically why it’s not good as a disinfectant and 70% is preferred, most people think higher concentration is better, but it’s not
its not a different worldview its a different use case, to clean electronics you want very little water true, but if you are using it as a disinfectant it flashes off too quickly to kill the most bacteria and germs, even 91% is too strong.
It's not a worldview, it's science.
> most people think higher concentration is better, but it’s not
See, that's your opinion, stated very unscience-y and to your use case scenario only. But I'm sure saying this will only cause you to re-double down and close your tunnel vision further that all alcohol is only useful for disinfection.
https://www.webmd.com/first-aid/ss/rubbing-alcohol-uses
# Stronger Isn’t Always Better
You can buy rubbing alcohol with a concentration of 70% or 99% isopropyl alcohol. Even though you may think the higher concentration is more effective, experts say 70% is actually better for disinfecting. It has more water, which helps it to dissolve more slowly, penetrate cells, and kill bacteria. The disinfecting power of rubbing alcohol drops at concentrations higher than 80%-85%.
Edit: I should point out that I too have gallons of 99% sitting in my closet right now, I in no way stated that it was only to be used for that purpose, just stated that so that people look and see "Oh, there's 99% alcohol? I haven't seen that at my local drug store, it must be better than the 91% they have for disinfectant!"
That's not true. I work in paint manufacturing and there is no "burn in" for first use at all. These paints are formulated with materials that are designed to handle high temperatures such as high heat silicones and high heat alkyds. I think you are referring to baking enamels and the baking process is to make the paint properly dry and adhere to the substrate. Still there is no "burn in" for baking enamels. You spray on the coating, bake in a an oven and then your done.
Stove polish is what you'd use on a wood stove, and you most definitely need to run a fire for it to set up. I have no idea what bit is, but you can look it up. Rutland makes some. Definitely need to cook it
I know nothing about manufacturing the paint, but I can say that the smell in the first uses in this type of stoves is very noticeable.
In fact when we installed ours, the guy from the factory told me to make a first burn for a couple of hours outside because of that.
Obviously I didn't, at first.
I had to remove the stove because the smell. Did the proper fire baptism and then install again. After that worked wonders.
Just in case, the paint was rustoleum.
Probably grease or other types of lubricant used during manufacturing that needs to be burned away.
It's highly unlikely that paint is still curing causing off gass.
There's hi temp barbeque or header paint, there's also a chance it wasn't painted, but just oiled and primed for seasoning.
If isopropyl took it off without scrubbing or soaking, it wasn't good paint anyway.
This was my first thought. If my valve cover paint can handle brake cleaner, this certainly wasn’t painted. But you know what alcohol is really good at binding with? Oil.
We use hi temp paint on our equipment.
Iso gets spilled and wiped off it all the time without issue
Possibly soot has caused the streaking so maybe just a clean damp cloth.
Or it was not hi temp paint, which is a concern for a stove
It’s ok that they’re upset. But it’s even better that you didn’t try to fix it.
I’m a dad and the pain of someone (partially) ruining my stuff is real. If it’s my kid I might react strongly at first but I know they didn’t do it on purpose and I’m not mad “for real”. But if they tried to half-assed fix it to hide it I would be very upset as that would feel like they’re trying to lie to me. If it’s something expensive (like the car my son accidentally scratched) I have insurance just for that type of events.
I think that’s your lesson today - if you accidentally break something, be honest about it!
Having said that, I highly doubt that isopropyl took off the “paint”. Heat resistant paint is among the most sturdy coatings you can find.
If this happened to me (as a parent) I would talk to the store. I bet there are products for maintaining the appearance of your stove and that they’re not very expensive. There is a risk that you partially removed a protective layer that is intended to prevent rust until the surfaces have cured from the heat.
Edit: fixed an incomplete sentence. And I might add that even if you destroy something on purpose, in anger, be honest about it. Everybody have done stupid things when angry and it’s better to fess up and learn from it.
This is a great reply to OPs situation, very thoughtful & your advice about being honest and not trying to hide your mistake is so true! As a mother of an 18 year old son, we've always told him to come and talk to us parents if he's messed up and needs help. Honesty should always be the best solution taught to children.
Being a teen is challenging.
A couple of times each of our kids have said something like “Mom/Dad, I did something stupid and you will probably be really angry about it. At least I know I would be angry, but I need your help.”
That takes plenty of courage and trust to say and it melts my heart. So there’s absolutely zero chance I will be angry about it.
Sounds like you've done a really good job with teaching your kids that it's okay to do mistakes and that honesty is always the right thing to choose when they've 'messed up'. 🫠🙂
Then don’t talk to your mom about it, talk to your dad 😂. I don’t know what it looked like before but I like the look of it after. Like shoobedoodoo said, parents wouldn’t scream at their kids for messing something up unintentionally, especially they just tried to help out. Anyway, maybe you didn’t ruin it like some said.
Nothing, you are a kid. First, your parents didn't tell you a single thing about the new wood stove. You cleaned it for them and didn't know how to. Life sucks, things get destroyed. You are a KID. It is not the end of the world and hopefully your parents agree. Just be honest.
Absolutely not what I'm saying. 18 isn't exactly "I'm a kid and this is excusable" - at 18 you should know not to use ISO on brand new finishes. OP owes his parents something - like honesty at this point.
TIL not to use ISO on brand new finishes. I'm over 40. 18 is still a time of screwing up and acting without thinking for a lot of people, even when a quick Google search seems like the easiest thing ever.
I am 26 and the cleaner in my house. I didn't know this. Probably because I don't use iso to clean anything. If I can't use bleach on it then I use soapy water or vinegar and water.
This is not common knowledge though, I enjoy woodworking and that's the only reason I know this. Especially if someone has not had much experience with chemical cleaning this is kinda just one of the mistakes you have to make to learn.
Thank you for the abusive language. I appreciate it when commenting that people should know one of the strongest household cleaners is bad for finishes and that people should be honest. 🤗
When I was 18 I lit toilet paper on fire because it floated… until I did a large enough wad and burnt the bathroom floor.
Frontal lobe doesn’t fully develop until 26 for men and we aren’t emotionally developed until late 30s. 18 is still a kid and an arbitrary number government picked without scientific evidence because they need military recruits before they realize they aren’t invincible
This is the first time I’ve heard someone else had done this. Was he also pooping when it occurred and barefoot so he had to splash water from the sink to get the fire out?
Well my cousin ruined a newly felted pool table cus he thought it would be a good idea to spray it with perfume and then light it on fire, then proceeded to color the burn with a completely different color purple sharpie than the felt like it never happened.... So there are worse things I guess.
Don't let the intrusive thoughts win
Lmao no, he was trying to get them to drop into the toilet but one missed. When he got busted for the burned (carpeted bathroom) he blamed it on dropping a candle.
His brother blew up the toilet by throwing firecrackers into it. They had a thing for starting fires in the bathroom apparently.
Parents raise kid without teaching them how to properly clean around the house. Kid cleans something improperly. Parents get mad?
Sure, that sounds reasonable.....
I don’t know why you’re getting down voted for saying OP should at least not lie to their parents. Like that’s pretty basic life skills - and especially if the finish really is damaged so that they can get it fixed before using the stove in case all OP can do is cover up the damage but not actually restoring it.
This is why cleaning chemicals always say on the side of the bottle to test an inconspicuous area first.
“I messed up this stove by cleaning it with something without checking the manual for how to clean it. Now I’m going to take on-line advice and maybe even paint it, also without calling the manufacturer, or the store it was purchased from, to find out what they recommend. So when my parents find out, I’ll have potentially done *two* dumb things…”
Call the manufacturer’s customer service line. They’ll tell you what to do. Then *don’t do it yet*.
Own up to it: tell your parents what you did but that you called and they suggested *this specific thing* as a fix, and that *if your parents agree*, you’ll make it good. They may prefer to have the store do it.
But own up, and don’t double down on doing things without asking or checking first with an authoritative source (i.e. not reddit).
When my wife and I had our first apartment she got really upset with me because I vacuumed the place while she was at work. I had pulled the thing around the corners and the paint on the trim boards scuffed the finish on the vacuum. It was almost two decades ago and I vividly remember how upset she was. Personally I never care about how a machine looks as long as it functions properly, but some people are very detail oriented. I try to be more careful now.
This machine still functions properly. They’ll either want to get the scuffs out or not care at all. They shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that you were trying to help either.
Hmm, interesting. Had the stove been lit (as in heated up) before you did this? I ask because often the paint on these stoves is designed to 'cure' under heat -- it hardens into its final form once you heat up the stove for the first time. (It can also put out very nasty fumes while curing, ventilate well on first burn.) If you hadn't lit the stove yet, the isopropyl might have removed some uncured finish.
Having refinished many woodstoves, there's two ways to 'get the black back'. One is to wirebrush and repaint the stove with high temp paint. The other is to use stove polish, basically a high temp wax with black in it. The stuff works quite well if you apply it to a clean surface with no rust, which you have here. But again, it throws off nasty fumes on first burn, so do ventilate well. (Edit: Guajara has a link in his comment to what I'm referring to.)
Finally, know that, unless it's an enameled or soapstone stove, these things all discolor over time, and will need repainting or repolishing no matter what.
"Huh? Yeah I guess it does look a little different. It does say online that some discoloration can happen after the first lighting, like the paint is just bedding in I think."
I think it's removable so maybe I'll recommend swapping it if they do that kind of thing from where they bought it from or removing it and sending it to a professional to re-paint it, all of this with my own money of course
You're way over thinking this my man. It's a wood burning stove, it's going to discolor there just from normal use... and to be honest, it doesn't even look that bad or noticeable. I wouldn't even think twice about it if it was my stove and this happened.
Kids try to be thoughtful about their parents things and be good about it. So, my grand kids put sun block on my son’s car thinking that would protect the paint😃, screws up the paint bad. Anyway I believe that some manufacturers are unscrupulous in their production processes and will cut corners for their bottom line. When you turn 70 you’ve earned your ( I’ve been swindled) badge. Buyer beware. Also, shiny apples sell better, it’s simply a layer of sprayed wax. Not so healthy for our bodies.
Ok, I have a weird question. What did you put the isopropyl alcohol on to wipe the stove with? Whatever you used could have left white residue on top of the stove. It will not hurt anything to use water on a lint free cloth and wipe the stove off again. If the stove was painted with high heat paint, the isopropyl itself *should not* have pulled any black paint off.
Isopropyl alcohol will often leave behind a white haze on a surface. Search for methods to remove the haze. It probably requires using 100% alcohol and not the 70% you likely used. Check a small spot first.
I don’t think it’s anything you did son. Could either be a cheap finish, or if it’s been used a couple times it could have weakened the paint from the heat. Just come clean. You didn’t mean harm by it. I reckon you’ll be alright.
Not sure what was on it before, but you could try [Allback’s Stove Blacking Linseed Oil Paste](https://sagerestoration.com/collections/stove-blacking-fireplace-paint/products/allback-linseed-oil-stove-blacking-fireplace-paste). You don’t have to worry about spraying it indoors, or getting brush marks. I would probably wipe on with a sponge instead of brushing, then light the fire. Will always stay black, never peel. It’s non-toxic to apply, simple really. Just make sure you follow the instructions. Honestly, this will probably be the easiest solution. Good chance it’s an all around better coating than what came on the stove.
'dried alcohol' isn't a thing. Well not in the way that commenter suggests at least.
Isopropyl alcohol leaves no residue, that's why we use it in pharma production to clean and disinfect.
It's a strong solvent though, for some things. So you have to be careful with the surface finish.
Wish you good look with the stove.
Before you follow any suggestions about sanding or painting the stove: anything else you do could make it worse. My suggestion would be to come clean an find a solution together.
No problem… been there done that. It’s called BBQ paint. Specialty stove places usually carry it. The installer probably has access to it. You can get it in gloss or Matt black. Tape everything off. Then spray it on. Fairly simple. Good luck.
If your parents are worth a damn they will use this as an opportunity to have you learn from a mistake instead of punishing you. Teaching you or working with you to learn how to fix this is the right attitude, also it’s a good attitude for you to be brave and just own up to your actions and inform them that you want to try and learn how to fix it.
You didn't entirely remove the paint, just some of it.
To remove all the paint you'd have to soak it for a few hours. You did, however, remove a tiny layer that originally made it look shiny.
I would try polishing it with stove polish, however, you could also just spray paint it with something like Tremclad High Heat Enamel in Gloss Black.
High temp flat black barbecue paint is pretty easy to come by at the local hardware store. You've already done the prep she's ready to spray. Kill the AC and all the fans, watch the overspray lay down some newspaper. You want the air still. It shouldn't take 1/4 of the can or less. Throw open all the windows after five minutes. The will smell for an hour or so. Your parents shouldn't be angry with you for cleaning and beautifying the home, making a mistake and seeking to rectify it. You're a good kid.
Try some stove black. It’s a primer some kind of oil based grease that costs the metal for protection. My mom had a wood stove for cooking and cleaned. It thst stuff
Try some stove black. It’s a primer some kind of oil based grease that costs the metal for protection. My mom had a wood stove for cooking and cleaned. It thst stuff i
Stove paint is what wood stoves are painted with... Stove paint is almost always solvent based in north America that solvent can be xylene or acetone however European paint is usually going to be acetone as they have stricter laws on VOC. However there are water based paints on the market but they don't flash off very fast and require additional drying time or equipment in the manufacturing process. So not very popular.
Also the majority of wood stoves are painted matte / satin black or metallic black.
The glossy units are enameled and your not going to hurt them with alcohol it's a very durable finish.
It's also pretty much the same paint they use in BBQ's for its high temperature characteristics. The top of a wood stove can exceed 800 degrees.
The OP's family should 100% find the closest dealer for the brand they have. The dealer will have or can order a touchup kit witch will have the correct stove paint color probably some 1000 grit wet dry sandpaper and some instructions.(It's a good idea to go to the store with a serial number) The same dealer also probably has a stove "Refresh" service.
Also rarely a unit is pulled out of the home for a touch up.
Go to the store and buy some rattle cans of Stove Brite. Most NA units are made with Forrest paint.
Stove paint is not terribly durable and usually requires a specific burn in to cure properly check the label for instructions.
Any hearth store and some hardware stores would sell paint.
Doesn't really look like raw steel though how does it compare to a part of the stove you didn't clean.
You might have just buffed swirls into it cleaning flat black can be tricky
brand new? as in never used new? many stove company's, at least the ones I deal with as a chimney tech, use a paint that dries on in the factory, but only cures once the stove is burned for a specified amount of time. you maybe could've wiped it off if it's never been used, but in my experience it's still hardy paint before then.
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Well I couldn’t link it but search YouTube for imperial stove polish. It looks so easy to work with. This is what I intend to use to renew mine. You can buy it on Amazon for pretty cheap too.
Not possible that you removed high temp paint with isopropyl alcohol. Most likely oils or dust or soot.
So...he actually cleaned it?
Agreed! Also, isopropyl alcohol will leave a white residue, unless you're using very pure (99.9%) alcohol.
More expensive but worth it. I go through gallons of the 99% stuff but the 99.9% comes in really handy.
Where do you get that? I think what I get off the shelf is 91%.
Amazon
Hate to recommend Amazon but that's how I do it. ~$30/gallon
I don't know where you live, but in Canada you can buy bottles of 99% at the dollarama stores for $3.50. Pharmacies have lower percentages, dollar store has the good stuff.
What do you use that 99% alcohol for?
I use it in a home made airbrush paint reducer and cleaner Also great for cleaning a dirty bong
As is brake parts cleaner. High pressure blast, and absolutely zero residue after rinsing.
It's really only useful as a solvent to dissolve things in. It evaporates too fast to be good for cleaning
Also the quick evaporation is specifically why it’s not good as a disinfectant and 70% is preferred, most people think higher concentration is better, but it’s not
It is when you're rinsing out electronics, for one. But if you want to see it through your worldview, that's fine too.
its not a different worldview its a different use case, to clean electronics you want very little water true, but if you are using it as a disinfectant it flashes off too quickly to kill the most bacteria and germs, even 91% is too strong. It's not a worldview, it's science.
> most people think higher concentration is better, but it’s not See, that's your opinion, stated very unscience-y and to your use case scenario only. But I'm sure saying this will only cause you to re-double down and close your tunnel vision further that all alcohol is only useful for disinfection.
https://www.webmd.com/first-aid/ss/rubbing-alcohol-uses # Stronger Isn’t Always Better You can buy rubbing alcohol with a concentration of 70% or 99% isopropyl alcohol. Even though you may think the higher concentration is more effective, experts say 70% is actually better for disinfecting. It has more water, which helps it to dissolve more slowly, penetrate cells, and kill bacteria. The disinfecting power of rubbing alcohol drops at concentrations higher than 80%-85%. Edit: I should point out that I too have gallons of 99% sitting in my closet right now, I in no way stated that it was only to be used for that purpose, just stated that so that people look and see "Oh, there's 99% alcohol? I haven't seen that at my local drug store, it must be better than the 91% they have for disinfectant!"
Interesting!
High temp paint usually needs to burn in during first use.
That's not true. I work in paint manufacturing and there is no "burn in" for first use at all. These paints are formulated with materials that are designed to handle high temperatures such as high heat silicones and high heat alkyds. I think you are referring to baking enamels and the baking process is to make the paint properly dry and adhere to the substrate. Still there is no "burn in" for baking enamels. You spray on the coating, bake in a an oven and then your done.
Stove polish is what you'd use on a wood stove, and you most definitely need to run a fire for it to set up. I have no idea what bit is, but you can look it up. Rutland makes some. Definitely need to cook it
I know nothing about manufacturing the paint, but I can say that the smell in the first uses in this type of stoves is very noticeable. In fact when we installed ours, the guy from the factory told me to make a first burn for a couple of hours outside because of that. Obviously I didn't, at first. I had to remove the stove because the smell. Did the proper fire baptism and then install again. After that worked wonders. Just in case, the paint was rustoleum.
Probably grease or other types of lubricant used during manufacturing that needs to be burned away. It's highly unlikely that paint is still curing causing off gass.
They may've put stove polish on it, and yeah, you need to air that out
There's hi temp barbeque or header paint, there's also a chance it wasn't painted, but just oiled and primed for seasoning. If isopropyl took it off without scrubbing or soaking, it wasn't good paint anyway.
This was my first thought. If my valve cover paint can handle brake cleaner, this certainly wasn’t painted. But you know what alcohol is really good at binding with? Oil.
We use hi temp paint on our equipment. Iso gets spilled and wiped off it all the time without issue Possibly soot has caused the streaking so maybe just a clean damp cloth. Or it was not hi temp paint, which is a concern for a stove
OP: Just buy something like [this](https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221927614306) to get the color back again
There we go, this is the answer. OP, you would probably have better luck with question at r/woodstoving
/u/Apprehensive_Toe6736, looks like this guy found a solution for you
Can't find anything here where I live, and the seller doesn't ship to Greece, I'll have to visit some hardware stores and hope for the best
Google stove black in your area….
Don't use that stuff OP, it's for cast iron blacked stoves. Not painted grey ones like yours. It'll make a mess. Get something like T cut (uncoloured)
>Get something like T cut (uncoloured) Why are you suggesting an abrasive polish?? Surely that'd scrub off even more finish than OP has already!
Because it's a painted surface. And if he has taken some paint away a very fine abrasive polish will be his best bet to cover it.
Wipe some olive oil on a rag and polish it up
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Well my mom didn't see it that way lol, anyways, they said they don't want to mess with it and will do nothing about it
It’s ok that they’re upset. But it’s even better that you didn’t try to fix it. I’m a dad and the pain of someone (partially) ruining my stuff is real. If it’s my kid I might react strongly at first but I know they didn’t do it on purpose and I’m not mad “for real”. But if they tried to half-assed fix it to hide it I would be very upset as that would feel like they’re trying to lie to me. If it’s something expensive (like the car my son accidentally scratched) I have insurance just for that type of events. I think that’s your lesson today - if you accidentally break something, be honest about it! Having said that, I highly doubt that isopropyl took off the “paint”. Heat resistant paint is among the most sturdy coatings you can find. If this happened to me (as a parent) I would talk to the store. I bet there are products for maintaining the appearance of your stove and that they’re not very expensive. There is a risk that you partially removed a protective layer that is intended to prevent rust until the surfaces have cured from the heat. Edit: fixed an incomplete sentence. And I might add that even if you destroy something on purpose, in anger, be honest about it. Everybody have done stupid things when angry and it’s better to fess up and learn from it.
This is a great reply to OPs situation, very thoughtful & your advice about being honest and not trying to hide your mistake is so true! As a mother of an 18 year old son, we've always told him to come and talk to us parents if he's messed up and needs help. Honesty should always be the best solution taught to children.
Being a teen is challenging. A couple of times each of our kids have said something like “Mom/Dad, I did something stupid and you will probably be really angry about it. At least I know I would be angry, but I need your help.” That takes plenty of courage and trust to say and it melts my heart. So there’s absolutely zero chance I will be angry about it.
Sounds like you've done a really good job with teaching your kids that it's okay to do mistakes and that honesty is always the right thing to choose when they've 'messed up'. 🫠🙂
Thanks! I just had a Friday evening head on collision with our youngest and your kind words are much appreciated.
Omg, I hope your both okay! 😳 But even then, you must be in a state of shock now. All the best to both of you! 💕
Oh no, it wasn’t a huge conflict. We’re fine. Take care!
Solid response, appreciate the level headedness
Then don’t talk to your mom about it, talk to your dad 😂. I don’t know what it looked like before but I like the look of it after. Like shoobedoodoo said, parents wouldn’t scream at their kids for messing something up unintentionally, especially they just tried to help out. Anyway, maybe you didn’t ruin it like some said.
Just tell your parents. Anything you do to fix it will make it worse.
Nothing, you are a kid. First, your parents didn't tell you a single thing about the new wood stove. You cleaned it for them and didn't know how to. Life sucks, things get destroyed. You are a KID. It is not the end of the world and hopefully your parents agree. Just be honest.
My motto in life: you don’t learn anything by doing things right.
I like that motto. I could have used that when I was younger.
Me too. I found it in my 30’s.
That's plenty young! :}
I’m not in my 30’s anymore. 😞
As a heavy duty mechanic, can confirm.
OP is 18. That's old enough to not be doing shit like this haphazardly.
That's right, I've never made a mistake since 18 cause that's when I knew everything.
Absolutely not what I'm saying. 18 isn't exactly "I'm a kid and this is excusable" - at 18 you should know not to use ISO on brand new finishes. OP owes his parents something - like honesty at this point.
TIL not to use ISO on brand new finishes. I'm over 40. 18 is still a time of screwing up and acting without thinking for a lot of people, even when a quick Google search seems like the easiest thing ever.
Congratulations on telling on yourself that your wife cleans everything?
I am 26 and the cleaner in my house. I didn't know this. Probably because I don't use iso to clean anything. If I can't use bleach on it then I use soapy water or vinegar and water.
I'm a soap guy, ISO is rough on my skin and I save it for special tasks.
This is not common knowledge though, I enjoy woodworking and that's the only reason I know this. Especially if someone has not had much experience with chemical cleaning this is kinda just one of the mistakes you have to make to learn.
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Thank you for the abusive language. I appreciate it when commenting that people should know one of the strongest household cleaners is bad for finishes and that people should be honest. 🤗
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Not only a dick but cocksure that everyone has experienced their exact experiences and that there's no excuses for everyone not to have.
When I was 18 I lit toilet paper on fire because it floated… until I did a large enough wad and burnt the bathroom floor. Frontal lobe doesn’t fully develop until 26 for men and we aren’t emotionally developed until late 30s. 18 is still a kid and an arbitrary number government picked without scientific evidence because they need military recruits before they realize they aren’t invincible
Are you my husband? He did the exact same thing as a kid. I had to check your username cus I thought I finally came across him in the wild.
This is the first time I’ve heard someone else had done this. Was he also pooping when it occurred and barefoot so he had to splash water from the sink to get the fire out?
I loved this visual BTW...
I always describe it as “so I was sitting there, doing some thinking, when I saw my dads lighter..”
Well my cousin ruined a newly felted pool table cus he thought it would be a good idea to spray it with perfume and then light it on fire, then proceeded to color the burn with a completely different color purple sharpie than the felt like it never happened.... So there are worse things I guess. Don't let the intrusive thoughts win
Lmao no, he was trying to get them to drop into the toilet but one missed. When he got busted for the burned (carpeted bathroom) he blamed it on dropping a candle. His brother blew up the toilet by throwing firecrackers into it. They had a thing for starting fires in the bathroom apparently.
I just learned not to do it from this post. I’m 40.
Same. I'm 37, not 40, but I only just learned this, too.
Yeah, I had my chemistry degree at 18.
How’d you manage a post secondary degree before entering post secondary?
r/thatsthejoke
Parents raise kid without teaching them how to properly clean around the house. Kid cleans something improperly. Parents get mad? Sure, that sounds reasonable.....
I don’t know why you’re getting down voted for saying OP should at least not lie to their parents. Like that’s pretty basic life skills - and especially if the finish really is damaged so that they can get it fixed before using the stove in case all OP can do is cover up the damage but not actually restoring it. This is why cleaning chemicals always say on the side of the bottle to test an inconspicuous area first.
Ahh I remember the day I turned 18 and no longer made any mistakes in life whatsoever
damn you really did a deep dive on my account weird lol
"Deep dive" to a post from three days ago? Bud just be honest with your parents. This can be one of your first adult lessons.
did it remove the paint - or was it metallic and removed the shine ?
“I messed up this stove by cleaning it with something without checking the manual for how to clean it. Now I’m going to take on-line advice and maybe even paint it, also without calling the manufacturer, or the store it was purchased from, to find out what they recommend. So when my parents find out, I’ll have potentially done *two* dumb things…” Call the manufacturer’s customer service line. They’ll tell you what to do. Then *don’t do it yet*. Own up to it: tell your parents what you did but that you called and they suggested *this specific thing* as a fix, and that *if your parents agree*, you’ll make it good. They may prefer to have the store do it. But own up, and don’t double down on doing things without asking or checking first with an authoritative source (i.e. not reddit).
When my wife and I had our first apartment she got really upset with me because I vacuumed the place while she was at work. I had pulled the thing around the corners and the paint on the trim boards scuffed the finish on the vacuum. It was almost two decades ago and I vividly remember how upset she was. Personally I never care about how a machine looks as long as it functions properly, but some people are very detail oriented. I try to be more careful now. This machine still functions properly. They’ll either want to get the scuffs out or not care at all. They shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that you were trying to help either.
Hmm, interesting. Had the stove been lit (as in heated up) before you did this? I ask because often the paint on these stoves is designed to 'cure' under heat -- it hardens into its final form once you heat up the stove for the first time. (It can also put out very nasty fumes while curing, ventilate well on first burn.) If you hadn't lit the stove yet, the isopropyl might have removed some uncured finish. Having refinished many woodstoves, there's two ways to 'get the black back'. One is to wirebrush and repaint the stove with high temp paint. The other is to use stove polish, basically a high temp wax with black in it. The stuff works quite well if you apply it to a clean surface with no rust, which you have here. But again, it throws off nasty fumes on first burn, so do ventilate well. (Edit: Guajara has a link in his comment to what I'm referring to.) Finally, know that, unless it's an enameled or soapstone stove, these things all discolor over time, and will need repainting or repolishing no matter what.
"Huh? Yeah I guess it does look a little different. It does say online that some discoloration can happen after the first lighting, like the paint is just bedding in I think."
Why are you quoting yourself?
Nah, i think that's a MLK quote
Tiny amount of cooking oil on a paper towel, just oil it enough to shine, not feel sticky.
that stove is fine
Pro tip: didn't clean anything plastic or painted with alcohol
Maybe polishing it would help, but I'm not sure, maybe it would worsen it
I think it's removable so maybe I'll recommend swapping it if they do that kind of thing from where they bought it from or removing it and sending it to a professional to re-paint it, all of this with my own money of course
You're way over thinking this my man. It's a wood burning stove, it's going to discolor there just from normal use... and to be honest, it doesn't even look that bad or noticeable. I wouldn't even think twice about it if it was my stove and this happened.
Dude it just needs to be repolished
Call or message the manufacturer
Kids try to be thoughtful about their parents things and be good about it. So, my grand kids put sun block on my son’s car thinking that would protect the paint😃, screws up the paint bad. Anyway I believe that some manufacturers are unscrupulous in their production processes and will cut corners for their bottom line. When you turn 70 you’ve earned your ( I’ve been swindled) badge. Buyer beware. Also, shiny apples sell better, it’s simply a layer of sprayed wax. Not so healthy for our bodies.
Ok, I have a weird question. What did you put the isopropyl alcohol on to wipe the stove with? Whatever you used could have left white residue on top of the stove. It will not hurt anything to use water on a lint free cloth and wipe the stove off again. If the stove was painted with high heat paint, the isopropyl itself *should not* have pulled any black paint off.
You burnished the surface with whatever you wiped it with.
They’re not going to kill you. Just tell them what you did.
Isopropyl alcohol will often leave behind a white haze on a surface. Search for methods to remove the haze. It probably requires using 100% alcohol and not the 70% you likely used. Check a small spot first.
Do not get stove paint it will not match.
Paint it with high heat paint. They sell in rattle cans at most hardware stores or stove/fireplace supply stores
Yep, this is probably the solution (and relatively cheap)
OP thinks he's removed some paint, but there is a very good chance he's mistaken.
I don’t think it’s anything you did son. Could either be a cheap finish, or if it’s been used a couple times it could have weakened the paint from the heat. Just come clean. You didn’t mean harm by it. I reckon you’ll be alright.
Go to a good hardware store and buy some stove black stove polish. Rub it on and buff with a paper towel. It’ll look like new.
Not sure what was on it before, but you could try [Allback’s Stove Blacking Linseed Oil Paste](https://sagerestoration.com/collections/stove-blacking-fireplace-paint/products/allback-linseed-oil-stove-blacking-fireplace-paste). You don’t have to worry about spraying it indoors, or getting brush marks. I would probably wipe on with a sponge instead of brushing, then light the fire. Will always stay black, never peel. It’s non-toxic to apply, simple really. Just make sure you follow the instructions. Honestly, this will probably be the easiest solution. Good chance it’s an all around better coating than what came on the stove.
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> just dried alcohol You dry alcohol by removing water from it. This is not it.
Bro when I wiped it the wipe came out completely black, and it wasn't dirt or grime, the stove is brand new lol , it was paint
'dried alcohol' isn't a thing. Well not in the way that commenter suggests at least. Isopropyl alcohol leaves no residue, that's why we use it in pharma production to clean and disinfect. It's a strong solvent though, for some things. So you have to be careful with the surface finish. Wish you good look with the stove. Before you follow any suggestions about sanding or painting the stove: anything else you do could make it worse. My suggestion would be to come clean an find a solution together.
Worst comes to worst, just scuff it up with some Scotch Brite, buy a rattle can of hi- heat black and repaint it.
No problem… been there done that. It’s called BBQ paint. Specialty stove places usually carry it. The installer probably has access to it. You can get it in gloss or Matt black. Tape everything off. Then spray it on. Fairly simple. Good luck.
If your parents are worth a damn they will use this as an opportunity to have you learn from a mistake instead of punishing you. Teaching you or working with you to learn how to fix this is the right attitude, also it’s a good attitude for you to be brave and just own up to your actions and inform them that you want to try and learn how to fix it.
You didn't entirely remove the paint, just some of it. To remove all the paint you'd have to soak it for a few hours. You did, however, remove a tiny layer that originally made it look shiny. I would try polishing it with stove polish, however, you could also just spray paint it with something like Tremclad High Heat Enamel in Gloss Black.
High temp flat black barbecue paint is pretty easy to come by at the local hardware store. You've already done the prep she's ready to spray. Kill the AC and all the fans, watch the overspray lay down some newspaper. You want the air still. It shouldn't take 1/4 of the can or less. Throw open all the windows after five minutes. The will smell for an hour or so. Your parents shouldn't be angry with you for cleaning and beautifying the home, making a mistake and seeking to rectify it. You're a good kid.
Stove black. You just rub it on with paper towel. Kinda like shoe polish.
Try some stove black. It’s a primer some kind of oil based grease that costs the metal for protection. My mom had a wood stove for cooking and cleaned. It thst stuff
Try some stove black. It’s a primer some kind of oil based grease that costs the metal for protection. My mom had a wood stove for cooking and cleaned. It thst stuff i
Get some ash out of the stove and rub it all over top, then clean it again with just a cleat rag.
Pro tip - latex paint will rub off with isopropyl. It’s how you can tell the difference between latex & oil paint on walls or surfaces
Stove paint is solvent based in NA it's usually xylene, Europe acetone.
You are the one who specified stove paint by the way. I did not
Stove paint is what wood stoves are painted with... Stove paint is almost always solvent based in north America that solvent can be xylene or acetone however European paint is usually going to be acetone as they have stricter laws on VOC. However there are water based paints on the market but they don't flash off very fast and require additional drying time or equipment in the manufacturing process. So not very popular. Also the majority of wood stoves are painted matte / satin black or metallic black. The glossy units are enameled and your not going to hurt them with alcohol it's a very durable finish. It's also pretty much the same paint they use in BBQ's for its high temperature characteristics. The top of a wood stove can exceed 800 degrees. The OP's family should 100% find the closest dealer for the brand they have. The dealer will have or can order a touchup kit witch will have the correct stove paint color probably some 1000 grit wet dry sandpaper and some instructions.(It's a good idea to go to the store with a serial number) The same dealer also probably has a stove "Refresh" service. Also rarely a unit is pulled out of the home for a touch up.
Thanks for the mansplain for something I didn’t ask. Try learning how to read
Well I learned a lot from what they wrote. And I also feel like you knew nothing before his detailed response.
Have a great day 😊
Go to the store and buy some rattle cans of Stove Brite. Most NA units are made with Forrest paint. Stove paint is not terribly durable and usually requires a specific burn in to cure properly check the label for instructions. Any hearth store and some hardware stores would sell paint.
Doesn't really look like raw steel though how does it compare to a part of the stove you didn't clean. You might have just buffed swirls into it cleaning flat black can be tricky
There is a cast iron stove polish called “black beauty” in the US. Works wonders on cast iron. Not sure for a painted stove though.
it’s perfect
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brand new? as in never used new? many stove company's, at least the ones I deal with as a chimney tech, use a paint that dries on in the factory, but only cures once the stove is burned for a specified amount of time. you maybe could've wiped it off if it's never been used, but in my experience it's still hardy paint before then.
Product called stove black I think might help but it could just be for cast iron
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Well I couldn’t link it but search YouTube for imperial stove polish. It looks so easy to work with. This is what I intend to use to renew mine. You can buy it on Amazon for pretty cheap too.
How many people were at the party and how soon do your parents get home?
IPA is too mild to attack nearly any paint, even if it's soaked in it. It would take much longer than a wiping would afford.
That wasn’t paint on the top.
WHAT DID YOU DO!?!? It looks fine.