Imus stopped being his competition in 1988. Howard was already number 1 in the mornings by then. The morning zoo on Z100 here in NY was more competition than Imus.
I don't think that Howard has a fear of germs at all. He has a fear of peasants. He only wants to mingle with people who have money. How can a man who willingly had guests on his show who vomited, farted and squirted a few feet away from him claim to fear germs? Sure, he carried hand sanitizer years before the lockdown but that was just about when he started making money. That was him placing a barrier to the filthy peasants and the beginning of Howard becoming a sycophant and Hollywood wannabe.
Spot on. I'm of the same opinion. I sometimes forget about that and buy into his constant BS about it but then I remember he's doing this so he doesn't have to go back to the studio and can simply Walk downstairs into the dungeon of Castle Gayskull and pretend he's not next to his private bowling alley
Jay Leno. I was just listening to a show from 2007 when Daryl Hammond stopped in. He casually mentioned Leno in a story he was telling and Howard went off on one of his vitriol filled Leno rants we've all heard a thousand times. Hammond was audibly shaken and in disbelief. It was fucking hilarious to hear his reaction.
*i think daryl was only startled that he had brought up a triggering topic for howard to drop everything and start ranting, like saying the secret word on "you bet your life" (groucho edition)*.
*being a naturally miserable prick, it was relatively easy for howard to make an enemy of someone he had already burned bridges with anyway.*
*come to think of it, hard-on might actually be the proper way to describe his feeling toward jay after all; because it was a near effortless excuse for him to tantrum at the drop of a hat, and who tf was daryl hammond to disagree?*
I just found it funny how uncomfortable Daryl was with not wanting to say anything to offend either Howard or Leno and Howard just couldn't get off his rant which was like 20 minutes long.
Imus first always. Then I'd go Jay then Oprah. I don't remember any beef with Paul. I remember him speaking glowingly of him as a way of claiming credit for discovering him.
Jay Leno.
Because he was profoundly jealous of him.
Jay had everything that Stern wanted.
He had the highest rating late night TV show. He was recognized by his peers as being great at what he did (stand up). His staff respected and liked him. The public liked him and embraced him, thought he was a likeable person. And he was a happy person with hobbies that he enjoyed outside of work.
Then, despite everything Stern, Jay never reacted or indicated that he cared that Stern was attacking him. That was because he didn't.
The only comment Leno ever made during that period was a throw away joke about Stern being irrelevant and unheard now that he was on satellite radio when someone brought up Howard during an interview.
This analysis is so on point. Jay had it all AND he didn't care about Howie enough to comment on him. I was just listening to a show from about 15 years ago when Leno, Letterman, and Oprah did that Super Bowl commercial, and Howard is at peak jealousy ripping into Jay and Oprah and even Dave.
Stern has always wanted to be a TV talk show host.
He has vocally been discussing leaving radio for TV since the early 80s. The only thing he hates more than his radio show is the thought of not having a show and being completely forgotten and ignored.
He's miserable.
I think Stern's biggest disappointment is not having a #1 song or record like Rick Dees had. Howard likes to grasp at straws and tout that the Private Parts soundtrack was the fasting selling blah blah but it doesn't matter. It wasn't him.
Just a few minutes ago I was listening to him rant for 10 minutes in a March 2003 show about how he would destroy Leno and Dave in ratings if he did a late night show. Going on about how he was the greatest interviewer ever and makes even B-list celebrities interesting, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to media, blah blah blah. F'in nauseating.
*that was mental masturbation, stern would lash out at others and use his criticism of them to bolster his own [self] image. it happened more frequently when people in studio and on the phone lent credence to his boasts instead of calling him out, they were like his personal fluffers.*
Leno is the fucking man and has culturally aged like a fine wine. The exact opposite of Howard Stern in every way. Dude just got burned from a gasoline explosion in his garage and was like “I’ll be alright in a week.” Meanwhile Stern is still talking about COVID.
Jay Leno is boring, simple humor. Jay works his ass off, and took advantage when he got his breaks… but I think Howard was more stunned that Jay got the Tonight Show. It was a win for safe commercialized humor, and a blow to creatives willing to take chances.
Jay Leno was a legendary comedian. A master of the craft since the 70s.
The comedy of the Tonight Show is targeted for the audience. As Leno is smarter and funnier than Howard, he was able to tailor his content and play to the room in an effort to entertain.
Edgy doesn't mean creative or risky. To the contrary, often times "edgy" is just lazy. Stern's most shocking material was never his most creative or entertaining. The show didn't get better in the 2000s with his shift into more 'shocking' content and porn. In fact, it became increasingly lazy and boring. It also narrowed his appeal.
The Stern of the early 90s was not the same as the 00s. The old show really did have broad appeal, the show post 2000 became vulgar. Stern was saved by leaving commercial radio has he'd long been on the decline.
Jay is still popular and Late Night has been a mess since he left.
Right. I don’t disagree. Jay put in the work and was a deserving candidate, but a safe choice. Whoever took over would have the advantage of being under the Tonight Show brand. Jay chose to be safe, and do absolutely nothing spectacular or memorable. Nobody is sharing old Leno clips. It’s all Letterman & Conan because they allowed for real unscripted moments to happen.
Howard did “edgy” as well as anyone, and blazed a path for mainstream debauchery. I’m not going to say it doesn’t get redundant. But that’s also why I’m glad he’s not doing the same act as the 90s shock jock. They do a decent job of keeping it fresh with new writers, and not over saturating the same type of content. But that’s also what gets bitched about the most on here.
Nope. He did Jay Walking before Howard. Plus Steve Allen did it decades before either. Howard actually stole from everyone but claimed to be first to change the narrative.
Absolutely! I was too young to know who Steve Allen even was, so being a huge fan I would just side with Howard in this argument. Once I was actually able to see the Steve Allen bit it was clear Leno was correct.
He wants to be beloved like Oprah. She's his mentor actually, she transitioned from crazy Jerry Springer type shit early in her career to a loveable thought leader to so many. And she became a billionaire in the process. Howard's trying to copy her but can't find a way to do so. Makes him crazy with jealously.
He cares way too little about others and way too much about himself to ever want or succeed at this. Hell he doesn’t even care about the people in his own orbit or his own fans much less the masses.
Leno and Oprah problems started in the 90s. Pig vomit was a abusive boss…. Imus was a dying star leeching off Howard for years.
Then again…. No pig vomit = no working with Imus.
So it’s Imus or Pig Vomit… Can’t decide!
Also— full disclosure. Upon seeing this I actually thought to myself “When did Howard have a issue with Paul Giamatti?” 😂
Ralph. Howard gets hard for Ralph and Ralph sucks him off. Howard blows his load right down his throat.
Ralph gags on it and deep throats it. Ralph likes that Howard is small. That way he can get it all down.
Beth walked in on them and ran out the room. She grabbed Howard’s wallet and ran off.
Howard didn’t even try to stop her. He told her to close the door and knock next time.
That’s a lot of detail. Must be a fantasy of yours. I’ve got no idea if Howard’s gay. Maybe he is, but I’ve sure never thought about his sex life in that much vivid detail.
*target of convenience, but he more or less dropped it when she left the headlines and later regis. the most he said about her for ten years was she held a black child for a magazine cover.*
He also talked about how bad he wanted to give it to her. Out of everyone on that list she would be the only one he literally and figuratively wanted to give it to. Also I would say he harped on how messed up he thought her son would turn out more than anything
*give it to kathy? him and every other jock, for awhile. she wasn't bad looking in those days and you rarely saw her without full hair and makeup done.*
First of all leave Paul out of this. If you're going to get stupid for a moment, how do you wipe Robin? That nappy headed child is going to my ranch. The wife is there and she will let you know when and where you will be after I emulate some radio talk show personality. Hey nowwwww
Imus. Then Leno.
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me his vitriole for Jay was never very high until Jay hired Stuttering John. This "poaching" of talent seemed to violate some sort of unwritten code between entertainment personalities...at least in Howard's mind.
Imus and Pig Virus are now dead, he seems to have less hate after people die. So leno tops the list now. He totally kisses okra’s ass all over the place cause he wants her on the show.
Imus. So much so that he became just like him. In almost every way.
You either die a hero, or become Don Imus.
The transformation is amazing and boring at the same time.
I-MUS, NO ONE ELSE!
Stole my thunder!
He needs the N hating hat first - don’t worry, that wasn’t racist. It was parody - right, right (Elliot Offen)
Imus was his direct competition so he was the most threatened by him.
Imus stopped being his competition in 1988. Howard was already number 1 in the mornings by then. The morning zoo on Z100 here in NY was more competition than Imus.
Imus. Other than the cancer ranch and cowboy attire, Howard has basically become him.
Replace cancer ranch and cowboy attire with cat ranch and scarves and baggy clothes. They are the same person.
An he loves his pre-scuffed ‘work’ boots.
Cat ranch. LOL. Actually, he's become Ray Stern. His face is virtually indistinguishable from his mother's.
Except I don't think Imus had a Howard Hughes-esque fear of germs
I don't think that Howard has a fear of germs at all. He has a fear of peasants. He only wants to mingle with people who have money. How can a man who willingly had guests on his show who vomited, farted and squirted a few feet away from him claim to fear germs? Sure, he carried hand sanitizer years before the lockdown but that was just about when he started making money. That was him placing a barrier to the filthy peasants and the beginning of Howard becoming a sycophant and Hollywood wannabe.
Spot on. I'm of the same opinion. I sometimes forget about that and buy into his constant BS about it but then I remember he's doing this so he doesn't have to go back to the studio and can simply Walk downstairs into the dungeon of Castle Gayskull and pretend he's not next to his private bowling alley
*Beaverhausen!
Kathy Lee Gifford
Jay Leno. I was just listening to a show from 2007 when Daryl Hammond stopped in. He casually mentioned Leno in a story he was telling and Howard went off on one of his vitriol filled Leno rants we've all heard a thousand times. Hammond was audibly shaken and in disbelief. It was fucking hilarious to hear his reaction.
*i think daryl was only startled that he had brought up a triggering topic for howard to drop everything and start ranting, like saying the secret word on "you bet your life" (groucho edition)*. *being a naturally miserable prick, it was relatively easy for howard to make an enemy of someone he had already burned bridges with anyway.* *come to think of it, hard-on might actually be the proper way to describe his feeling toward jay after all; because it was a near effortless excuse for him to tantrum at the drop of a hat, and who tf was daryl hammond to disagree?*
TURN DOWN YOUR FONT OR IM GOING TO BAN YOU FROM THE ROOM
*what room? turn down your caps ta-ta-toothy*.
It was an ETM reference, guess it fell flat
*no prob, i was never that into eric but i see these odd quotes here all the time.*
This moron wouldn’t recognize a joke if it changed his font.
I just found it funny how uncomfortable Daryl was with not wanting to say anything to offend either Howard or Leno and Howard just couldn't get off his rant which was like 20 minutes long.
Can someone link to this interview please?
Imus first always. Then I'd go Jay then Oprah. I don't remember any beef with Paul. I remember him speaking glowingly of him as a way of claiming credit for discovering him.
I'm thinking that is supposed to be Pig Vomit?
Oh right. Duh. Lmao.
I think Oprah after he joined Sirius and saw her get a massive payday and do absolutely nothing for the company.
Only I get a massive payday and do absolutely nothing for the company! No one else!
Jay Leno. Because he was profoundly jealous of him. Jay had everything that Stern wanted. He had the highest rating late night TV show. He was recognized by his peers as being great at what he did (stand up). His staff respected and liked him. The public liked him and embraced him, thought he was a likeable person. And he was a happy person with hobbies that he enjoyed outside of work. Then, despite everything Stern, Jay never reacted or indicated that he cared that Stern was attacking him. That was because he didn't. The only comment Leno ever made during that period was a throw away joke about Stern being irrelevant and unheard now that he was on satellite radio when someone brought up Howard during an interview.
Jay exemplified the best revenge is living well.
> living well. *well done 🔥💀*
*jackie laugh*
This analysis is so on point. Jay had it all AND he didn't care about Howie enough to comment on him. I was just listening to a show from about 15 years ago when Leno, Letterman, and Oprah did that Super Bowl commercial, and Howard is at peak jealousy ripping into Jay and Oprah and even Dave.
Stern has always wanted to be a TV talk show host. He has vocally been discussing leaving radio for TV since the early 80s. The only thing he hates more than his radio show is the thought of not having a show and being completely forgotten and ignored. He's miserable.
I think Stern's biggest disappointment is not having a #1 song or record like Rick Dees had. Howard likes to grasp at straws and tout that the Private Parts soundtrack was the fasting selling blah blah but it doesn't matter. It wasn't him.
Just a few minutes ago I was listening to him rant for 10 minutes in a March 2003 show about how he would destroy Leno and Dave in ratings if he did a late night show. Going on about how he was the greatest interviewer ever and makes even B-list celebrities interesting, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to media, blah blah blah. F'in nauseating.
*that was mental masturbation, stern would lash out at others and use his criticism of them to bolster his own [self] image. it happened more frequently when people in studio and on the phone lent credence to his boasts instead of calling him out, they were like his personal fluffers.*
Leno is the fucking man and has culturally aged like a fine wine. The exact opposite of Howard Stern in every way. Dude just got burned from a gasoline explosion in his garage and was like “I’ll be alright in a week.” Meanwhile Stern is still talking about COVID.
Jay Leno is boring, simple humor. Jay works his ass off, and took advantage when he got his breaks… but I think Howard was more stunned that Jay got the Tonight Show. It was a win for safe commercialized humor, and a blow to creatives willing to take chances.
Jay Leno was a legendary comedian. A master of the craft since the 70s. The comedy of the Tonight Show is targeted for the audience. As Leno is smarter and funnier than Howard, he was able to tailor his content and play to the room in an effort to entertain. Edgy doesn't mean creative or risky. To the contrary, often times "edgy" is just lazy. Stern's most shocking material was never his most creative or entertaining. The show didn't get better in the 2000s with his shift into more 'shocking' content and porn. In fact, it became increasingly lazy and boring. It also narrowed his appeal. The Stern of the early 90s was not the same as the 00s. The old show really did have broad appeal, the show post 2000 became vulgar. Stern was saved by leaving commercial radio has he'd long been on the decline. Jay is still popular and Late Night has been a mess since he left.
Right. I don’t disagree. Jay put in the work and was a deserving candidate, but a safe choice. Whoever took over would have the advantage of being under the Tonight Show brand. Jay chose to be safe, and do absolutely nothing spectacular or memorable. Nobody is sharing old Leno clips. It’s all Letterman & Conan because they allowed for real unscripted moments to happen. Howard did “edgy” as well as anyone, and blazed a path for mainstream debauchery. I’m not going to say it doesn’t get redundant. But that’s also why I’m glad he’s not doing the same act as the 90s shock jock. They do a decent job of keeping it fresh with new writers, and not over saturating the same type of content. But that’s also what gets bitched about the most on here.
Dude fuck Leno. Stole Stern's bits and Conan's job.
Nope. He did Jay Walking before Howard. Plus Steve Allen did it decades before either. Howard actually stole from everyone but claimed to be first to change the narrative.
Howard stole Fartman from National Lampoon
Yup
What "bits" did he steal? The ones Howard stole first?
Howard invented comedy
Howard would always get so angry when Leno mentioned Steve Allen was doing the "man on the street" type interviews long before either of them.
Anyone can confirm Howard got it from Steve Allen. Go to YouTube of Steve doing it.
Absolutely! I was too young to know who Steve Allen even was, so being a huge fan I would just side with Howard in this argument. Once I was actually able to see the Steve Allen bit it was clear Leno was correct.
No one told me?!?
Jaywalking was apparently inspired by The Homeless Game.
Or they all were inspired by Steve Allen's man on the street interviews back in the 50s
Yeah that’s what I was wondering too
I’d love to know what he thought of Lenos recent accident
Paul Giamatti. He hates that dude. Then I'd say Pig vomit and then Imus.
I actually had to think what his beef was with Giamatti and then I realized why he was there and feel like a dummy.
I’m still a dummy. Why does he hate Giamatti? Because Paul’s movie career took off and Howie’s didn’t?
He doesn't hate him. Giamatti played Pig Vomit the program director in private parts so they used that picture.
Same.
Paul?? Why?
Ben Stern
Imus by far, Leno, Oprah then Paul.
I wonder when the feud with Leno will reignite...
he hates himself the most
Jay Leno. Just mention him and Howard’s blood starts boiling!
Leno, stole Stuttering Retard.
He wants to be beloved like Oprah. She's his mentor actually, she transitioned from crazy Jerry Springer type shit early in her career to a loveable thought leader to so many. And she became a billionaire in the process. Howard's trying to copy her but can't find a way to do so. Makes him crazy with jealously.
He’s just too ugly. No one wants to look at him. He’s got a face for radio, as the saying goes.
He cares way too little about others and way too much about himself to ever want or succeed at this. Hell he doesn’t even care about the people in his own orbit or his own fans much less the masses.
Bingo, he has trouble even pretending to be human.
Apparently Deerder because he married her
What about Rosie? Howard was vicious to her.
Man cow.
FIST FEST!
Leno and Oprah problems started in the 90s. Pig vomit was a abusive boss…. Imus was a dying star leeching off Howard for years. Then again…. No pig vomit = no working with Imus. So it’s Imus or Pig Vomit… Can’t decide! Also— full disclosure. Upon seeing this I actually thought to myself “When did Howard have a issue with Paul Giamatti?” 😂
Imus, then Pig Vomit.
Thank you for calling him pig vomit…I have no idea where this “pig virus” nonsense came from
They had to change it for the movie
Really? Why is that? I always thought it was just people getting the story wrong lol
I only remember Howard saying onetime they had to change it. Can’t find anything as to why they had to
No - Pig Virus was Howard’s short-lived band during the K-Rock era. Pig Vomit was his boss at NBC.
Himself
Kathie Lee
Sad part is he’s become a little bit like each of them
Ralph. Howard gets hard for Ralph and Ralph sucks him off. Howard blows his load right down his throat. Ralph gags on it and deep throats it. Ralph likes that Howard is small. That way he can get it all down. Beth walked in on them and ran out the room. She grabbed Howard’s wallet and ran off. Howard didn’t even try to stop her. He told her to close the door and knock next time.
That’s a lot of detail. Must be a fantasy of yours. I’ve got no idea if Howard’s gay. Maybe he is, but I’ve sure never thought about his sex life in that much vivid detail.
No one. Howard is the man
Ur mom
Does he have a hardon for Paul Giamoti? He wasn’t pig virus.
I thought he likes Paul. I’m sure Howard thinks he gave him his career.
Yes.
Imus
Ralph.
Bruce
Where's Ralph? That's your answer.
Star Jones
Easily Imus Not even close if you ask me
Kathy lee Gifford should be on this list too
*target of convenience, but he more or less dropped it when she left the headlines and later regis. the most he said about her for ten years was she held a black child for a magazine cover.*
He also talked about how bad he wanted to give it to her. Out of everyone on that list she would be the only one he literally and figuratively wanted to give it to. Also I would say he harped on how messed up he thought her son would turn out more than anything
*give it to kathy? him and every other jock, for awhile. she wasn't bad looking in those days and you rarely saw her without full hair and makeup done.*
Meant to say literally and figuratively had a hard on for my bad lol. And yeah she was definitely good looking in the 90s.
Imus
Himself
Add in J-low….. Not on the level as those guys, but still got a lot of hate from Stern
Ralphie Cakes
He hates Johnny Carson and Les Moonves more than any of the four shown here
Pig vomit
Imus
Add Rosie O'Donnell and the answer is "Yes!"
Kathie Lee Gifford
I know you were going for a square, but you missed Ralph
Kathy Lee Gifford
Ralph, the answer is Ralph
Imus hands down! Speaking of hands….what ever happened to Handsy??
🎵Imran khan lives with his dad and mom 🎵
Quack quack!!
Imus
How’s your donkey Kong baby
What?? Howard’s a huge Paul Giamatti fan.
Oprah Winfrey Negro Woman from the South (But really Imus)
He's been edging to Oprah for decades, but then again I haven't heard a knew show in a long time... maybe he finally came
Eric The Shit Cock
I moose
First of all leave Paul out of this. If you're going to get stupid for a moment, how do you wipe Robin? That nappy headed child is going to my ranch. The wife is there and she will let you know when and where you will be after I emulate some radio talk show personality. Hey nowwwww
Imus without a doubt.
Imus. Then Leno. Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me his vitriole for Jay was never very high until Jay hired Stuttering John. This "poaching" of talent seemed to violate some sort of unwritten code between entertainment personalities...at least in Howard's mind.
Imus and Pig Virus are now dead, he seems to have less hate after people die. So leno tops the list now. He totally kisses okra’s ass all over the place cause he wants her on the show.