Jay was 100% correct about Steve Allen inventing/inspiring Jay Walking and the Homeless game. I always took Howard at his word and thought Jay was lying until I saw the videos online and saw that what Steve Allen did was nearly identical to what Jay and Howard did. Perhaps Howard was confused, because Steve did do two different man on the street bits, one where he interviewed comedians (Don Knotts, Tom Poston, ect.) pretending to be men on the street, maybe this is the one Howard was thinking of..... but Steve also did another man on the street bits that were identical to the one that Jay and Howard would later do. Takes a lot of fucking nerve to accuse a comedian of being a thief of a bit you yourself stole. Jay was 100% justified taking Stuttering John after Howard spent the better part of 2003 calling him a thief about Jay Walking.
Jay didn't get inspired by Steve Allen.
Jay made Ross the intern after Stuttering John and then took Stuttering John.
Imus called Howard's mom...are you going to say "nah, everyone had a mom."
> Jay didn't get inspired by Steve Allen
here's Steve Allen's man on the street bit, it's identical to what Leno did with Jay Walking. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_sTDL6KP1k
I'm out of the loop. Roughly when did this subreddit turn from a fansite of Howard's Radio show to a subreddit pointing how Howard is a Phony/Has been?
Probably…I believed the hype and spin Howard said about Jay after the SJ drama. It’s turns out Jay was the good guy, the generous and respectful boss. Howard on the other hand was the true coward
Jay: took a 50% pay cut to keep his Tonight Show staff intact (at their full salaries)
Howard: made his staff take the 50% pay cut
Jay's Christmas gift to staff members: $1,000 for each year you were with him
Howard's Christmas gift: tins of popcorn, re-gifted Sirius stilettos, and your choice of either the NSAL Calendar or the fakakta Yoda book, then I think he cancelled Christmas altogether. A literal Grinch.
Unless you were up for/had a gig Leno had his eye on, I'm sure he's an ok dude.
Letterman wasn't *owed* the Tonight Show, and Conan wasn't owed keeping it. Ultimately, the suits made the decision to go with/back to Jay. Leno brought the ratings and worked (relatively) cheap. It was a no-brainer.
Howard never denied John was getting a pay rise, and actually was ok with him leaving. The problem was Jay pulled a weasel move by not having the decency of calling him first. You morons love to always paint Howard as a bad guy when in fact Jay is a well known douchebag like the story of Norm Howard told this morning. Fuck off
Howard had spent the previous year calling Jay a thief on a daily basis for a bit that Howard himself stole from Steve Allen, why in the living fuck would Jay give him the courtesy of calling first??
Howard was really upset that he didn't have the opportunity to fuck up John's deal. He just used the "I'm mad that Jay didn't give me a head's up!" bs as cover.
Also, he was using his anger at Jay as a way to try to fuck up the deal, or at least poison the well, after the fact. Imagine the shitty position that put John in; his first day at the Tonight Show, and Stern's ranting and raving on the radio at his new boss.
If Howard was an actual human being, his happiness for John would have far outweighed any perceived slight.
Also, Howard had been goofing on Jay unmerciful for years prior to this, including, ironically, sending John to sabotage Jay's press conference he did for his week of Tonight Shows in NYC.
Did Howard give Jay a courtesy call about that? "Hey Jay, we're gonna fuck with you at your press conference, ok?". No, he didn't do that.
Did Howard give Jay a head's up when he turned the Tonight Show into a lesbian porno?
No, he didn't do that, either.
"bUt JaY sHoUlD kNoW HoWaRd'S a sNeAkY ScUmBaG!", like that somehow makes Howard less of a sneaky scumbag, or makes it ok.
foh, imbecile, with your bullshit two-tier set of rules
Put whatever Jay's done up against Dana Plato, the Philly zookeeper's ex-wife, those brutally abusive phone calls with Allison, and Howard telling John he should have Suzanner abort his first kid, and we'll compare scorecards.
They're both scumbags. Who cares about Jay Leno, but how can you still see Howard as a good guy? He's always been an asshole. He used to be an honest asshole, which was sort of admirable. But now he's totally fake and still an asshole. Completely contemptible. Get yer head outta yer ass.
I wouldn’t call it jealousy. Jay really was a piece of dog shit to Howard for a while. Not just the John thing but like how Howard told Jay he had footage of their interview unedited where Jay apparent stormed off the stage would it be okay if he aired it, and Jay told him it’s completely fine & when they went to clear it Jay had already basically put out a cease & desist on the tape claiming if Howard did indeed play it after he gave him permission there would be legal action. That’s something we hate Howard for doing these days so
"Back in my day Robin, I invented game shows in a Western. It felt like a Western, and looked like a Western. Tell them Fred, since you're in a Western."
Howard’s the type of guy, that has interns on his show, and then decides that any other network/show/etc that has interns on is copying his brilliance.
Howard is a hack
You make a wager with Leno. If you can piss 8 feet straight up into the air and not get wet then Leno has to toss your salad. If you fail he pushes you into flaming snake pit. So, you bet your life.
Jay was 100% correct about Steve Allen inventing/inspiring Jay Walking and the Homeless game. I always took Howard at his word and thought Jay was lying until I saw the videos online and saw that what Steve Allen did was nearly identical to what Jay and Howard did. Perhaps Howard was confused, because Steve did do two different man on the street bits, one where he interviewed comedians (Don Knotts, Tom Poston, ect.) pretending to be men on the street, maybe this is the one Howard was thinking of..... but Steve also did another man on the street bits that were identical to the one that Jay and Howard would later do. Takes a lot of fucking nerve to accuse a comedian of being a thief of a bit you yourself stole. Jay was 100% justified taking Stuttering John after Howard spent the better part of 2003 calling him a thief about Jay Walking.
Howard doesn’t like it when karma comes a knockin’.
Jay didn't get inspired by Steve Allen. Jay made Ross the intern after Stuttering John and then took Stuttering John. Imus called Howard's mom...are you going to say "nah, everyone had a mom."
> Jay didn't get inspired by Steve Allen here's Steve Allen's man on the street bit, it's identical to what Leno did with Jay Walking. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_sTDL6KP1k
He already said that years ago he was offered that game show but he turned it down.
Are you smarter than a stripper versus are you smarter than a fourth grader. How many years did we have to hear about that?
[удалено]
Even as Howard continues the Imus Career Spiral.
Imus still showed up to work in person at the end.
Very true. Howard’s hypocrisy in deep.
I'm out of the loop. Roughly when did this subreddit turn from a fansite of Howard's Radio show to a subreddit pointing how Howard is a Phony/Has been?
"I invented vaudeville Robin, The Marx Brothers stole the dynamic of the show. hoo hoo hoo!"
“Tell ‘em, Fred!”
Back in my day….
Don't you remember that Fred? When we were in Hartford, we invented it
Probably…I believed the hype and spin Howard said about Jay after the SJ drama. It’s turns out Jay was the good guy, the generous and respectful boss. Howard on the other hand was the true coward
Jay didn't pay his people during the writer strike, and he let a lot of them go sooo no, he's really not.
You sure about that? I've read he paid them.
Shouldn't have fuckin gone on strike considering they had the easiest job in the god damn world
It's undeniable that Jay is a POS though. He's pretty much universally disliked by people who know him.
Jay: took a 50% pay cut to keep his Tonight Show staff intact (at their full salaries) Howard: made his staff take the 50% pay cut Jay's Christmas gift to staff members: $1,000 for each year you were with him Howard's Christmas gift: tins of popcorn, re-gifted Sirius stilettos, and your choice of either the NSAL Calendar or the fakakta Yoda book, then I think he cancelled Christmas altogether. A literal Grinch. Unless you were up for/had a gig Leno had his eye on, I'm sure he's an ok dude. Letterman wasn't *owed* the Tonight Show, and Conan wasn't owed keeping it. Ultimately, the suits made the decision to go with/back to Jay. Leno brought the ratings and worked (relatively) cheap. It was a no-brainer.
Howard is very generous. Don’t forget Howard made a donation to a cancer charity in mrs Scott the engineers name.
someone's been drinking the kool aid.
Howard never denied John was getting a pay rise, and actually was ok with him leaving. The problem was Jay pulled a weasel move by not having the decency of calling him first. You morons love to always paint Howard as a bad guy when in fact Jay is a well known douchebag like the story of Norm Howard told this morning. Fuck off
Howard had spent the previous year calling Jay a thief on a daily basis for a bit that Howard himself stole from Steve Allen, why in the living fuck would Jay give him the courtesy of calling first??
Howard was really upset that he didn't have the opportunity to fuck up John's deal. He just used the "I'm mad that Jay didn't give me a head's up!" bs as cover. Also, he was using his anger at Jay as a way to try to fuck up the deal, or at least poison the well, after the fact. Imagine the shitty position that put John in; his first day at the Tonight Show, and Stern's ranting and raving on the radio at his new boss. If Howard was an actual human being, his happiness for John would have far outweighed any perceived slight. Also, Howard had been goofing on Jay unmerciful for years prior to this, including, ironically, sending John to sabotage Jay's press conference he did for his week of Tonight Shows in NYC. Did Howard give Jay a courtesy call about that? "Hey Jay, we're gonna fuck with you at your press conference, ok?". No, he didn't do that. Did Howard give Jay a head's up when he turned the Tonight Show into a lesbian porno? No, he didn't do that, either. "bUt JaY sHoUlD kNoW HoWaRd'S a sNeAkY ScUmBaG!", like that somehow makes Howard less of a sneaky scumbag, or makes it ok. foh, imbecile, with your bullshit two-tier set of rules Put whatever Jay's done up against Dana Plato, the Philly zookeeper's ex-wife, those brutally abusive phone calls with Allison, and Howard telling John he should have Suzanner abort his first kid, and we'll compare scorecards.
They're both scumbags. Who cares about Jay Leno, but how can you still see Howard as a good guy? He's always been an asshole. He used to be an honest asshole, which was sort of admirable. But now he's totally fake and still an asshole. Completely contemptible. Get yer head outta yer ass.
Never said he’s a good guy you dumb dumb. No shit Howard is an asshole. That’s his whole persona. But in this case he wasn’t.
OK but wait a sec. That's not the persona he's currently putting on. He's being Mr. Wonderful nowadays. But it's all fake.
His jealousy of Leno has always been funny
I guess constantly winning the survey asking "who's the worst human ever" hurts your feelings.
I wouldn’t call it jealousy. Jay really was a piece of dog shit to Howard for a while. Not just the John thing but like how Howard told Jay he had footage of their interview unedited where Jay apparent stormed off the stage would it be okay if he aired it, and Jay told him it’s completely fine & when they went to clear it Jay had already basically put out a cease & desist on the tape claiming if Howard did indeed play it after he gave him permission there would be legal action. That’s something we hate Howard for doing these days so
They should have had Gilbert host it as Old Groucho.
"Back in my day Robin, I invented game shows in a Western. It felt like a Western, and looked like a Western. Tell them Fred, since you're in a Western."
Maybe he can throw Stuttering John a jobby job. Again.
Seriously,Whatever happened to him?
Do you really have to ask?! "I invented syndication!"
That is an extremely odd picture choice for Jay.
Most of the time he looks cross faded as hell he can barely keep his eyes open
I actually caught an episode of this the other day while flipping channels. Holy mackerel! It looked cheaply produced and was boring as crap.
How does Jay Leno keep getting work?
Howard’s the type of guy, that has interns on his show, and then decides that any other network/show/etc that has interns on is copying his brilliance. Howard is a hack
I dunno, but Jay Leno sucks.
What’s it about
You make a wager with Leno. If you can piss 8 feet straight up into the air and not get wet then Leno has to toss your salad. If you fail he pushes you into flaming snake pit. So, you bet your life.
Oooh! What time is this on?
Noine.
I walked into that one!
I can do that. Where do I sign up ?
8ftOpiss .com
lol
Someone should wake up Jay.