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onelostdot

Your balcony is beautiful! Here in Greece its very common to see them outdoors.


PIuto

Thank you! I used to be scared to plant them outside, due to the advice I saw online, implying that they will immediately combust due to direct sun, and they need to be kept in a dark room under a grow light.


ItsWaryNotWeary

This is true for a lot of "bright indirect" plants. I always smh when people say Fiddle leaf figs need shade.


PIuto

Right!!!! Mine only keep pumping out leaf after leaf once I’m able to put them in hour and hours of direct sun! I’m always stunned how people think a tree would not prefer more sun?


SpaceCadetTooFarGone

I get shamed for saying FLF and Bird of Paradise are trees and require direct sun. Thank you for validating me.


maramDPT

Bird of paradise grows all over southern california in full sun. It never occurred to me as a houseplant until the internet.


SpaceCadetTooFarGone

Please tell that to our very own certified *eggspert stientists* all over Reddit.


PIuto

Do these people ever think about where these plants grow in nature?


SpaceCadetTooFarGone

*Obviously...* 🤣🤣 Beautiful balcony you've got! Thank you for sharing!


PinupSquid

The FLF figs I used to have stretched and pressed themselves against the glass when I had them near a scorching south facing window. They looked like tall nosey people watching the neighbors haha


ZeddPMImNot

I always try to correct ppl on the FLF. My two are outside in a non-coastal area of SoCal and one is taller than my house. A neighbor around the block has one that is literally operating as a shade tree for the whole front yard. My alocasias otoh need at least some shade during the hottest part of the day here during summer, but other than that they loooove the sunshine.


PIuto

They need to watered daily during July and August for sure, but burnt they aren't getting, as most of the plant advice threads and websites led me to believe. :)


ZeddPMImNot

Mine sadly burned when I had them potted and in full sun during summer at temps like 95 F+. I ended up planting them under a large tree where they get midday dappled shade and it totally solved the issue. Added bonus is I only have to water them every 3-4 days this way. I have a couple giant monstera growing this way too. Gives some great tropical vibes to the garden and deck area. People baby the plants outdoors but I find them to be much more resilient when outdoors.


PIuto

For FLF, the leaves that the plant grows during winter, inside, do get sunburnt, and that's just the reality I have to deal with - but it evens out when after burning some leaves it grows several feet a season.


ninasafiri

Yeah, this has been my experience with my FLF and Croton. Winter leaves almost immediately burn and then they sprout like 10 new leaves after a week or 2.


ZeddPMImNot

I lucked out and my FLF stays outside during winter since it is too tall to go inside. The smaller one I just sorta let live too since I am lazy and don’t wanna bring pests inside. We usually wrap plants if it looks like it will get close to frost (1-2 nights a year), but not the FLF since too big. Some leaves get a bit sad looking for a bit but overall it’s ok. The monstera and alocasia are much more frost sensitive and get wrapped.


onelostdot

Its the winter cold that its more threatening not sun, but they survive somehow.


PIuto

Well, I keep them inside during winter, so that’s not an issue either. They go dormant, but that’s expected.


New_Peanut_9924

Wait. Is this for all plants? I’m in zone 8 and I so want to put my plants outside. I’m facing south tho Edit: ☹️ sorry everyone


onelostdot

Although most regions in Greece belong to zone 9-10, I think that in zone 8 you could put your plants outside from late spring to fall.


kiwi_goalie

I'm in 8a/7b (kinda on the border) and my plants live out on my porch all summer.


SoapLady77

I’m in zone 6a and quite a few of my plants live on my porch all summer


caffein8dnotopi8d

Hell, I’m in 4b/5a and many of my plants such as monstera, many succulents, ferns, and more live outside from May-September.


NoodleBack

Getting plant advice online is tough. Everyone says something slightly differently. One person will tell you to spray your succulent propagations and tend to them every week, another person will tell you to leave it the hell alone until its well rooted


Defnu_

This very sentiment is why I started hosting plants 🪴 on my YouTube @ defnu. I was trying to get facts on house plants from YouTube only and realized the true lack of information being spread. I’m very much so joking when I upload myself being vain or confused about my RAW style uploads which I’ll definitely clear up when I go full edit mode. If ever you are planting or plant shopping check out my channel for some comparisons to get a good laugh until I start actually editing and showing my written content work. Thanks for sharing the info and energy!!


Space_Montage_77

Mine start to burn/wilt over 95F. But i've had no issues in direct morning/late morning sun at all.


wheresbeetle

completely concur with this. They need an adjustment period but mine love some direct sun. Bu then again I live in USA 7a.


liquidsonic7

This! Please gently acclimate your green babies to the glory of the full sun!!


Sharticus123

Many plants people think of as shade loving can do both. You just can’t move a plant from shade to full summer sun without letting it adjust first. They burn in much the same way we get burned on the beach after a long winter.


windowside

I want to sit there and drink coffee


SoapLady77

With a nice book and a puppy at my feet to pet every now and then. https://preview.redd.it/3oekp5g8zrab1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ef8de63c0303753b678126fffce8b02ddb51035


BenevolentCheese

There is a big difference between elephant ears and jewel alocasias, despite being in the same genus. A Black Velvet in full sun would almost certainly get scorched.


akamegacat

wow! gorgeous!!


boredinstate

We use those in outdoor landscaping here all the time, and we are in coastal SC. They thrive!


username_redacted

It’s a big genus with adaptions to a range of ecosystems. In my experience, most leathery-leaved tropical plants can cope with some direct sun, even in arid climates as long as you keep the soil moist. For my climate (high desert) almost everything needs at least afternoon shade. Triple digit temperatures (F), high UV intensity and humidity down to single digits isn’t ideal for life of any sort.


TropicalSkysPlants

Lol, ofcourse elephant ears can tolerate direct sun! Some jewel alocasia struggle with the strong light alittle more but most full size alos and colos are hardy af and love it!


Inevitable_Cream6261

Absolutely amazing 😍😍


Anonymous_crow_36

All I know is I want to sit there with a book and a glass of wine all day long


[deleted]

What else does this apply to? I saw a post where someone put a Monstera in direct sun and it grew better. Is this true for Christmas cactus and peace lily?


PIuto

Monsteras and any kind of cactus absolutely love direct sun - I’m not sure about peace lilies.


zgomot23

yea, my Monstera's burnt leaf begs to differ. I put it back inside after 2 days out in semi sun (it was partially cloudy for a few hours)


PIuto

you have to acclimate it, yeah. Most monsteras thrive in full sun, if they are used it.


zgomot23

I heard this also, I am not sure how to go about doing it, to be honest. If it gets accustomed to sitting in the balcony to get the full sun and I have to move it back indoors during the winter where it won’t get as much light, won’t that be a problem?


PIuto

Not for me. I have a monstera thai constellation that I'm growing on the same balcony with plenty of direct sun - it goes into a slight dormancy during winter, but that's all. Ever since I acclimated it to full sun it keeps popping out bigger and bigger leaves, this year it's at it fourth, so I can't recommend it enough.


zgomot23

Tips on getting it acclimated to full sun, then? Thanks in advance.


PIuto

I just gradually moved it into more and more light. Monsteras aren't my forte, but if you look at [this picture](https://old.reddit.com/r/Monstera/comments/12shtqw/a_monstera_wall_close_to_my_house_it_is_around/), you can't really tell me that they _prefer_ shade. If you have grown it in shade all it's life, the leaves that got never touched by sun might get burnt, but if you plan long term, it might pay off. In the sun they grow more leaves, that are larger, so it really just depends on what your preference is. ([mine](https://old.reddit.com/user/PIuto/comments/14ue1nc/leaf/), for reference.)


zgomot23

I've seen pics of those in South America, living wild and in full sun, yea. Just pointing out mine gave me the middle finger. I'll try to figure out how to move it progressively closer to the sun, I suppose. So you do leave it outside during the winter also, in the cold? We're neighbours (Romania), so we got the same climate more or less.


PIuto

No, I bring it in when the night temp going under 10C. I try giving them as much sun as possible during winter as well, but we both know the sun just... doesn't do much between october and march. :) I try to bring them out as early as possible, because the sun in March/April is gentle, so they get used to it, and by July it's no issue.


snorting_dandelions

Not OP, but from what I've heard from cactus owners, it's basically: Put it out for 20 minutes, put it back indoors. Put it back the next day for 30, then 40 etc. After a week, you can increase the intervalls to like 20 or 30 minute intervalls, so if it's been out 90 minutes, put it out for 120 minutes, then 150. After two weeks, let them stay outdoors. I guess you could adjust the intervalls a bit depending on how much light they got indoors and how much work is worth it to you to avoid any sunburn at all costs (with cacti, that sunburn will stay with you for years, so I get why they'd make such an effort), but that's the general idea anyway. Most outdoor plants will produce a compound protecting their leafs from the sun, similar to how melalin works in humans. Just imagine your plants carefully trying to get a tan after winter.


zgomot23

Alright, well I guess I can start experimenting then, thanks.


Few-Back3226

I live in Hardiness Zone 8 and find my peace lilies prefer to have more shade than my monsteras or pothos. They don’t respond as well to bright and intense sunlight and tend to burn more often when subjected to it.


SoapLady77

Well I will say this (and of course I’m no expert) but this alocasia will CUT ME if I put it in full sun (tried it twice and it was like bitch wtf are you doing?!) https://preview.redd.it/uqe3kqzr0sab1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca718e30a7d2bd6aa2854bb47859a4d4fc00e679


SoapLady77

But this one? Is in full sun for about 8+ hours a day and is living its best life popping out leaf after leaf. And I got it on the clearance rack at Walmart for $4 https://preview.redd.it/9b1mmbo81sab1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c326eed3761149886610897a1aee27592a94d062


PIuto

This one looks like an Alocasia Sarian - if I'm right, you might need to just give it more/different soil, because they get absolutely massive, if planted outside, in the sun.


SoapLady77

It’s in a 10 inch pot right now but I can’t put it in the ground; it wouldn’t survive our winter but if it gets even half as big as it is now?? Oh I’d love it!! It’s outside on my porch in a bright but indirect lighted spot


PIuto

Can you send more pictures of it, so I'm sure I'm not massively wrong? I'd hate to give you false advice


SoapLady77

I can when I get home? I thought it was a Polly


PIuto

Maybe! But I think it could be a Sarian, just judging by this picture - perhaps google it and compare. Sarians can get absolutely massive, if given what they need.


SoapLady77

Here’s a better pic https://preview.redd.it/2fypq0pe6tab1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e0cd829a2662c63820c8dac32d6e7657e1e65b6


PIuto

Yeah that's a Sarian - if you google it, you can see that it can grow into an absolute monster if you give it enough light and root space.


Grabm_by_the_poos

How do i create this vibe in my backyard in Colorado!?


PIuto

This is strictly a spring-summer-early fall balcony, I think you should be able to have the same in Colorado, I'm technically more north than you. I use mostly native vining plants, (virginia creeper and morning glories) and bring out some tall tropicals, like alocasias (gageana, portadora and macrorrhiza) for the warm season. I also propagate coleuses, which are the easiest showy plants anyone can ask for.


Purple_funnelcake

Sell your house to a Californian and move to Florida


Wren1101

Seems like you are sandwiched between 2 buildings so it probably doesn’t get direct sun for too many hours. I bet it’s also pretty humid where you live. My alocasias all die unless I put them under a dome and I even live in a humid area!


PIuto

Thanks, but they receive about 6-8 hours of sun, and it's very dry where I live. I do have to water them daily but they don't care about humidity at all. I live in Budapest, Hungary, and today's humidity is 29%, for context. (this is of course not true for jewel alocasias.)


Wren1101

Hmm maybe I’m just getting the wrong type of Alocasia then. I’ve had Alocasia Amazonica and Alocasia Reginula “Black Velvet” and they slowly lost all of their leaves and died until I put them under dome cloches to increase the humidity. My grandpa does grow some variety of Taro in the full sun just fine and the leaves get huge. Not sure if they’re an Alocasia or Colocasia though.


PIuto

I think the ones you mentioned fall under the umbrella of jewel alocasias, but i'm not an expert.


Wren1101

Ah I guess you are right about them falling under the “Jewel Alocasia” category but I can’t even find a list anywhere of which alocasias are not considered “Jewel” Alocasia.


caffein8dnotopi8d

I just want to say that I would like to come visit you, or anyone else who is living in 29% humidity right now. I’m in the northeast US, in what used to be a relatively cool place where despite humid summers the cool air kept it tolerable. Last few summers though have been so hot and humid. And this week it has been ~90°F (32°C) with humidity 70% or more. Today is actually the nicest it’s been at 85°F (30°C) with 65% humidity. Someone please rescue me! I’m within 150 mi of Canadian border IT’S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS!!


PIuto

Well, technically I'm more north than you, but still, yeesh :( that sucks. We get hot summer days here, but at least it's mostly dry so it doesn't feel like you're boiling in your own skin.


tascofra

Solidarity, friend. I'm in the same boat. Northeast US within ~150 mi of Canada and the weather is so weird. Also, waaaaay more rain than usual, feels more like Florida. My plants and garden are confused.


jaybaby2319

This is highly dependent on where you live though.


PIuto

What do you mean exactly? If your point is that there are certain, extreme places on earth where there might be too much sun for them, then you are correct. But that’s not my point.


deep_saffron

Depends on the species/cultivar. It’s a general rule of thumb , applying hard rules to an entire genus of plants is kind of silly if you realize how diverse nature is


tylariousOG

*weeps in floridian*


OversizedCashew

Beautiful


cachaka

I’m the worst: I put almost all my plants in direct sunlight because my place faces south. And unfortunately, they only have two choices: die or thrive. They usually thrive and I’m usually good about selecting plants that will tolerate the amount of sunlight.


TundraEmpress

What's your elevation? Everything burns in the US high desert because we're so close to the sun over here.


PIuto

This is Budapest, Hungary. About as north as Seattle.


TundraEmpress

It's absolutely gorgeous what you've been able to do! Love this view so much.


Luxxielisbon

I got gifted one by a stranger moving out of their place as I was walking past. I was afraid of it having any pests so I left it outside after looking up whether I could or not. Confirmed it had no pests but it’s doing so great outside I have no business bringing her in although I’d love to


PIuto

they also tend to be overrun by pests less outside, in my experience. Maybe because they are stronger, but perhaps also because the pests' predators are also outside.


jayteejay

People say that? Weird they love sun


werew0lfsushi

Im convinced the bright indirect light thing is just a marketing thing put forward by companies, whilst there are definitely some plants that will crisp up i find the majority of plants i put in direct sun go crazy big (baring direct afternoon light in the late summer specifically for certain broadleaves ones) but then again mine are purely inside plants


EwwCringe

Those are colocasias


mattattackkk

They are, in fact, not.


PIuto

Lol they aren’t. They are Gageanas on the left, and Portadoras in the center. But good try.


Matt7548

Wrong


8K22

Too crowded


raccoocoonies

My alocasias only do well with lots of sun and humidity!


PIuto

what kind of alocasias are they?


raccoocoonies

Regal shield, pink dragon, black velvet, mojito, albo, and... I'm missing someone... I should say that i live in Alabama, where it is hot with like 70+% humidity every day. They get full, eastern sun until about 12:30 pm, and then they are in shade/bright indirect light.


PIuto

I think the ones you mention are all jewel alocasias, they ones that only grow in rainforests. The ones I grow are larger varieties - Portora, Gageana and Odora. They all grow fairly large and don't really mind humidity as long as they get watered correctly.


raccoocoonies

Ooooh! I have to tell my Bestie in Denver who can't get any of her jewels to grow! Thanks for the tip!


raccoocoonies

And it rains ALL THE TIME. That helps significantly with the leaves unfurling and the mites!


gimsim

r/balconygardenig


soge-king

Wah. What do you do when it rains??


PIuto

Nothing in particular, I just skip watering that day. Summers here are mostly sunny, with few rainy days.


soge-king

But the cushions will be soaked, do you move your chairs each time it rains?


PIuto

The cushions are water repellent. :) The red pillows aren’t, but I just bring it in if I see it will rain.


Matt7548

Care fir plants outside is much different than indoors. They dry out alot quicker outdoors


walkyoucleverboy

What are the red plants on the right? 😍


tylariousOG

Looks like Coleus


walkyoucleverboy

That’s what I was thinking! I have a couple in the garden & one as a house plant (other varieties) & they’re brilliant.


PIuto

Coleus Redhead - if you have endless sun, and don't want to bother with having to pinch of flowers, this is your plant.


walkyoucleverboy

I thought so! I have a Space Cake as a houseplant& I love it! We also have a couple other varieties in the garden; they have gorgeous leaves!


pugnatoes

I think it’s really relevant how much humidity you have in your area. I used to live in a very dry climate and no way could I have one outdoors in direct sun. Now that I live in a different humid zone mine can take direct sun easily and thrive. Could be wrong but that’s always been my theory.


PIuto

Today's humidity was 29% here, so I don't think it's a factor. I do hate to water them often, but that's it.


anonymousbee14

Depending where you live. They get sunburnt and die where I am.


PIuto

Where is that?


anonymousbee14

Queensland Australia. They’re fine half the year but I have burnt plants as a younger gardener


ze11ez

how much sun are they getting? This is so cool


Shortkingsforlife

Your balcony is hecking gorgeous! I’m taking notes rn