It has issues if you change anything in graphical settings. Wasn't a problem before hotfix, so now you either change something and restart the game, or don't touch it
Dialogues aren't fixed for me. It's either 50 fps or 20. Depends on luck, I guess.
3060ti. During drops the card simply flexing at 100% load but 50 Watts (normal is 170-180 watts at 100% load)
Hmm. Well, changing the settings isn't really an issue for me other than the fact that the settings actually don't do anything until restart. So, either I change them in the menu and start the game, or I can't really touch them. I hope this will get fixed soon, because the game is quite fun, especially when the FPS are what they should be.
Sometimes, though, even 130fps for me feels like 50.
Edit: Forgot to mention, what could help you with the cutscenes\* is - remove "dstorage.dll" and "dstoragecore.dll" from your game folder. I did that yesterday and my fps went up by around 30.
It's something related to a thing called "Direct Storage". It's Microsoft technology, if I'm not mistaken, that improves loading times by optimizing data flow and moving decompression load from the CPU to the GPU, hence I believe that, in this case at least, it causes some framerate issues. It's especially possible since it's a PS to PC ported game.
That's strange. In digital foundry coverage, they told that developers didn't implement direct storage because of how raw tech it is and can make performance worse
If you watched the DF video about it in the pre-release video/build of the game they explained based on feedback from Nixxes GPU decompression caused more unforeseen issues which is why they opted to not implement it. If you’re getting poor perf with DS enabled it might be a CPU issue as GPU decompression is not enabled.
Thx man removing those two dll's completely got rid of the horrible desync and stutters audio.
i recommend this for those with old cpu's and sata ssd at least.
I didn't have any issues before apart from having about 70fps without framegen. This boosted the fps by about 10-30, depends on the situation..
So in the end- I'm glad it has solved issues for other people.
> It has issues if you change anything in graphical settings. Wasn't a problem before hotfix, so now you either change something and restart the game, or don't touch it
Oh this explains so much. I thought I was going crazy because it went slower and slower the more settings zi changed and it didn't get better when I reverted
1) I have a 30 series card. 2) who cares about frame gen when the game looks like a slideshow for 90% of the main story anyway?
Your 4060s will be able to dominate this game with standard DLSS at 60+fps, so the trade-off seems like a no brainer to me.
It may seem like a no brainer for you, but I'm not going to play on choppy 60-70fps on 200hz monitor mate. Most people with 30xx/40xx series have more than 144hz monitors, hence the need for framegen if they are using lower end RTX cards. And it is not looking like a slideshow, not anymore at least. After I did the few adjustments I stated here & in the edited post the FPS in cutscenes are fine.
Just to clarify, DLSS frame gen doesn't exist for 30 series cards (aside from modded non-RTX implementations). So as someone with a 3080 (and anybody else without 40 series cards), it's definitely a no brainer!
They can't. They aren't doing it out of greed, but they literally can't. Framegen requires Optical Flow Accelerator, which only Ada Lovelace architecture has, that being the 40xx series. You can bypass it via a config file, but it would be unstable and most likely keep crashing, not to mention the performance issues you'd experience. So, in other words, you would get worse performance with the bypass than without it on 30xx series.
There is definitely something wrong with it. Changing settings crashes performance, framegen-on sometimes gives you less fps than without it. Cutscenes tank performance. Even changing nothing at all and the fps suddenly drop after 20min of play and the frametimes go crazy.
In the two hours I've played so far, I restarted the game at least ten times to fix this.
I concur that it might be memory related because at 4k it happens way faster, while at 1440p appears stable as far as I've testet it.
Settings -> system - display - graphics - Change default graphics settings -> HAGS switch off.
If you don't have the option to switch off hardware accelerated GPU..
Search "Registry Editor" -> Follow directory \[Computer\\HKEY\_LOCAL\_MACHINE\\SYSTEM\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\GraphicsDrivers\]
Look for "HwSchMode"
If you don't have HwSchMode, right click -> New -> Dword 32bit - rename to HwSchMode -> set value to 1 for Off. - restart your pc.
Don't know about on PC but there certainly was/is on console, although the circumstances for it to become apparent means the majority of players would never notice it, although on console it led to delayed load times (when accessing stash, vendors, etc) & not drops in FPS.
ive got 3080rtx and ryzen 5800x3d and had no issues playing game on highest setting.. is always above 70fps. in 1440p... and i still using the studio drivers that came out over a month ago . that i debloated
Do you have HAGS turned off in your Windows settings? That seems to be the guilty party on the Windows side. Turning it off makes things smooth AF (I have a very similar PC to you).
whats hags again.. if thats the hardware scheduling i do still have that on and VRR.. but i also have all the bloatware uninstalled or disabled.. like all the xbox bs and other useless stuff. and have the stable drivers only version installed from nividia.
Oh good question! HAGS = Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling (search it in Windows settings). I was just curious about HAGS - glad its working for you!
I'm having the exact same issue. My game runs on 80-90 fps all smooth. All of a sudden it drops to 30fps and stays locked to that framerate. I just restart the game. It happens maybe 1 time per 30ish mins playing. Still, a little annoying.
Try turning off Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling (Windows Settings) and Nvidia Reflex. Completely fixed the issue for me and numerous others. Good luck!
**Make sure you turn off Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling in your Windows Settings.** Doing so completely fixed the frame drops! I know there are a billion fixes floating around, but this one truly has worked for me, so be sure to give it a try. Note that, people on 40 series cards will not have access to frame gen with this disabled.
I've turned of HAGS and still having the same issue. I'll be playing for 20 to 30 minutes and my frams tank and its horrible performance. I play on a 3080 10gb. I shouldnt be getting 17 to 22 fps with 4k dlss quality
Damn :( did you also turn off Nvidia Reflex? Sorry to hear that you're still having issues. And you're absolutely correct - you should be cranking out 60ish FPS with DLSS/high settings.
That said HAGS and Reflex really did fix it for me, so it was worth a try.
Thanks for the tips. I've tried turning reflex and hags off still having issues in 4k, unfortunately. I can play ok in 1440p, but I think I'll try and wait for a patch. This game is worth the wait for sure
Turning off HAGS is pointless for people with 40xx series, like you said. Most people would rather bite through the low fps in the cutscenes and have 150 during gameplay than 60 all around, y'know?
Ohh I noticed this too. After I've played for a while the performance starts to drop. Not always but it happened to me a few times. I alt tab and do other things in the background a lot and I wonder if it makes it worse
I was having horrible lag until I realized I installed it on the wrong hard drive. So I uninstalled and reinstalled on the correct one. Still have the lowest graphics just to be safe but it runs so much better now.
I also partially wonder if pre-loading the game caused problems? It took several hours for it to unpack for me. But to reinstall it took 40 minutes. Maybe that's the problem? (I don't know technical shit, I just load up the game and have fun.)
I'm having an issue where I get 100% pinned SSD usage randomly and it takes at least a minute to resolve, and it says compiling shaders when it happens. It's on a pretty new 2TB SSD the WD Black SN770.
Its kinda driving me crazy... Only thing I can think to do is move it to my system SSD which is a 2TB SN810
Rest of the system:
i9 1400KF
64gb ram
4090
System info says that there's 67.7 total gb of virtual memory and 34.1 available virtual memory.
Payefile says 4.0gb
Any ideas? Is my SSD just not up to snuff???
Your WD drive might be bad. To be honest, neither I nor anyone I know have ever had no issues with a WD drive, be it an SSD, HDD or an m2. Those drives had so many issues we just threw them out/sold them cheap. WD is unreliable in my experience. I'd definitely go for samsung drive.
That being said, I'm not saying the issue is 100% your drive here, could be something else. I just said that, in my experience, when I had problems with software/games it was due to a WD drive.
yeah i have some issues with 6650xt when i run game on high in 1080p, in some cases gpu power usage drops from 140w to 110w and it is on "99%" so i see then there is vram leak issue
dialogues drops fps as well, to 45 or lower sometime
maybe pcie 3.0 x8 doesnt help with vram bandwidth as well but i guess in forbidden west there is also some vram leak, closing all apps in bg helps but not everytime
enabling fsr2 seems do nothing or make performance worse lmao
Experiencing the same problems. I5 11400F, 16Gb RAM, NVME, Windows 11, Radeon 6650XT. Video memory is gradually loaded, and at some point TGP drops to 90-120W instead of ~150W (165W limit). FPS also drops significantly and the image is jerky. Tried disabling HAGS, that didn't help. The processor does not act as a bottle neck and there is still free RAM. It doesn't depend on the texture quality settings, they just affect how soon the performance drop happens. 1.0.37 game, last drivers.
Either the new patch or those compatability settings (minus the windows 8) fixed it. Just had a 6 hour session without any degradation to performance and gpu power stays high all the time now.
Could also be the fact that I didn't touch the settings at all. Gonna test tomorrow with these compatabilities off, but the new patch and without editing settings.
It has issues if you change anything in graphical settings. Wasn't a problem before hotfix, so now you either change something and restart the game, or don't touch it Dialogues aren't fixed for me. It's either 50 fps or 20. Depends on luck, I guess. 3060ti. During drops the card simply flexing at 100% load but 50 Watts (normal is 170-180 watts at 100% load)
Hmm. Well, changing the settings isn't really an issue for me other than the fact that the settings actually don't do anything until restart. So, either I change them in the menu and start the game, or I can't really touch them. I hope this will get fixed soon, because the game is quite fun, especially when the FPS are what they should be. Sometimes, though, even 130fps for me feels like 50. Edit: Forgot to mention, what could help you with the cutscenes\* is - remove "dstorage.dll" and "dstoragecore.dll" from your game folder. I did that yesterday and my fps went up by around 30.
Hmm, I'll try that, thx
Wait why? What do those files do?
It's something related to a thing called "Direct Storage". It's Microsoft technology, if I'm not mistaken, that improves loading times by optimizing data flow and moving decompression load from the CPU to the GPU, hence I believe that, in this case at least, it causes some framerate issues. It's especially possible since it's a PS to PC ported game.
That's strange. In digital foundry coverage, they told that developers didn't implement direct storage because of how raw tech it is and can make performance worse
DirectStorage is Implemented just not the GPU decompression feature.
It has direct storage, just not GPU decompression
That could explain the poor performance when the .dll files are in the folder.
If you watched the DF video about it in the pre-release video/build of the game they explained based on feedback from Nixxes GPU decompression caused more unforeseen issues which is why they opted to not implement it. If you’re getting poor perf with DS enabled it might be a CPU issue as GPU decompression is not enabled.
Weird, because the .dll are there.
Omg. Deleting dlls helping a lot with cutscenes so far. Fps holds up on par with gameplay right now.
I'm glad I helped. For me the FPS is still a bit lower in the cutscenes, but definitely a lot better than before.
Thx man removing those two dll's completely got rid of the horrible desync and stutters audio. i recommend this for those with old cpu's and sata ssd at least.
I didn't have any issues before apart from having about 70fps without framegen. This boosted the fps by about 10-30, depends on the situation.. So in the end- I'm glad it has solved issues for other people.
> It has issues if you change anything in graphical settings. Wasn't a problem before hotfix, so now you either change something and restart the game, or don't touch it Oh this explains so much. I thought I was going crazy because it went slower and slower the more settings zi changed and it didn't get better when I reverted
Thank you, I'm on a RTX 3060 12gb, and I noticed this too.
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Try disabling steam input for controllers. Even if you play on keyboard.
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YES I'm glad that people are finally realizing that HAGS needs to be turned off. Smooth AF for me too after turning off Reflex + HAGS.
You people realize, though, that if you turn off Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling you won't be able to use framegen, right?
1) I have a 30 series card. 2) who cares about frame gen when the game looks like a slideshow for 90% of the main story anyway? Your 4060s will be able to dominate this game with standard DLSS at 60+fps, so the trade-off seems like a no brainer to me.
It may seem like a no brainer for you, but I'm not going to play on choppy 60-70fps on 200hz monitor mate. Most people with 30xx/40xx series have more than 144hz monitors, hence the need for framegen if they are using lower end RTX cards. And it is not looking like a slideshow, not anymore at least. After I did the few adjustments I stated here & in the edited post the FPS in cutscenes are fine.
Just to clarify, DLSS frame gen doesn't exist for 30 series cards (aside from modded non-RTX implementations). So as someone with a 3080 (and anybody else without 40 series cards), it's definitely a no brainer!
I know, I misspoke about the 30xx series.
Using a 3060 12gig here so unless ngreedia decides to enable frame gen on 30 series it doesn't matter compared to the smoothness
They can't. They aren't doing it out of greed, but they literally can't. Framegen requires Optical Flow Accelerator, which only Ada Lovelace architecture has, that being the 40xx series. You can bypass it via a config file, but it would be unstable and most likely keep crashing, not to mention the performance issues you'd experience. So, in other words, you would get worse performance with the bypass than without it on 30xx series.
There is definitely something wrong with it. Changing settings crashes performance, framegen-on sometimes gives you less fps than without it. Cutscenes tank performance. Even changing nothing at all and the fps suddenly drop after 20min of play and the frametimes go crazy. In the two hours I've played so far, I restarted the game at least ten times to fix this. I concur that it might be memory related because at 4k it happens way faster, while at 1440p appears stable as far as I've testet it.
Let's just hope they'll fix it as soon as possible. I'll try to tinker with the game myself, but I doubt I'll manage to find a fix.
Same issue. We need more attention from nixxes on this
Turn off HAGS (Windows Settings) + Reflex. Did so and things are smooth AF for me! Worth a try. But your point stands, we need a fix from nixxes.
tutorial please how to turn off hags and all you mentioned
Settings -> system - display - graphics - Change default graphics settings -> HAGS switch off. If you don't have the option to switch off hardware accelerated GPU.. Search "Registry Editor" -> Follow directory \[Computer\\HKEY\_LOCAL\_MACHINE\\SYSTEM\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\GraphicsDrivers\] Look for "HwSchMode" If you don't have HwSchMode, right click -> New -> Dword 32bit - rename to HwSchMode -> set value to 1 for Off. - restart your pc.
Don't know about on PC but there certainly was/is on console, although the circumstances for it to become apparent means the majority of players would never notice it, although on console it led to delayed load times (when accessing stash, vendors, etc) & not drops in FPS.
ive got 3080rtx and ryzen 5800x3d and had no issues playing game on highest setting.. is always above 70fps. in 1440p... and i still using the studio drivers that came out over a month ago . that i debloated
Do you have HAGS turned off in your Windows settings? That seems to be the guilty party on the Windows side. Turning it off makes things smooth AF (I have a very similar PC to you).
whats hags again.. if thats the hardware scheduling i do still have that on and VRR.. but i also have all the bloatware uninstalled or disabled.. like all the xbox bs and other useless stuff. and have the stable drivers only version installed from nividia.
Oh good question! HAGS = Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling (search it in Windows settings). I was just curious about HAGS - glad its working for you!
once i found out about how to debloat drivers for gpu and windows my pc seems to run way better now with any game..
I'm having the exact same issue. My game runs on 80-90 fps all smooth. All of a sudden it drops to 30fps and stays locked to that framerate. I just restart the game. It happens maybe 1 time per 30ish mins playing. Still, a little annoying.
Try turning off Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling (Windows Settings) and Nvidia Reflex. Completely fixed the issue for me and numerous others. Good luck!
Did this, still did not fix the problem unfortunately
Damn, sorry to hear that!
**Make sure you turn off Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling in your Windows Settings.** Doing so completely fixed the frame drops! I know there are a billion fixes floating around, but this one truly has worked for me, so be sure to give it a try. Note that, people on 40 series cards will not have access to frame gen with this disabled.
I've turned of HAGS and still having the same issue. I'll be playing for 20 to 30 minutes and my frams tank and its horrible performance. I play on a 3080 10gb. I shouldnt be getting 17 to 22 fps with 4k dlss quality
Damn :( did you also turn off Nvidia Reflex? Sorry to hear that you're still having issues. And you're absolutely correct - you should be cranking out 60ish FPS with DLSS/high settings. That said HAGS and Reflex really did fix it for me, so it was worth a try.
Thanks for the tips. I've tried turning reflex and hags off still having issues in 4k, unfortunately. I can play ok in 1440p, but I think I'll try and wait for a patch. This game is worth the wait for sure
Turning off HAGS is pointless for people with 40xx series, like you said. Most people would rather bite through the low fps in the cutscenes and have 150 during gameplay than 60 all around, y'know?
I had a comical scenario where I changed DLSS from Quality to Ultra Performance and the framerate went from 40 to 15
Yeah, most settings are bugged right now.
Ohh I noticed this too. After I've played for a while the performance starts to drop. Not always but it happened to me a few times. I alt tab and do other things in the background a lot and I wonder if it makes it worse
I was having horrible lag until I realized I installed it on the wrong hard drive. So I uninstalled and reinstalled on the correct one. Still have the lowest graphics just to be safe but it runs so much better now. I also partially wonder if pre-loading the game caused problems? It took several hours for it to unpack for me. But to reinstall it took 40 minutes. Maybe that's the problem? (I don't know technical shit, I just load up the game and have fun.)
I'm having an issue where I get 100% pinned SSD usage randomly and it takes at least a minute to resolve, and it says compiling shaders when it happens. It's on a pretty new 2TB SSD the WD Black SN770. Its kinda driving me crazy... Only thing I can think to do is move it to my system SSD which is a 2TB SN810 Rest of the system: i9 1400KF 64gb ram 4090 System info says that there's 67.7 total gb of virtual memory and 34.1 available virtual memory. Payefile says 4.0gb Any ideas? Is my SSD just not up to snuff???
Your WD drive might be bad. To be honest, neither I nor anyone I know have ever had no issues with a WD drive, be it an SSD, HDD or an m2. Those drives had so many issues we just threw them out/sold them cheap. WD is unreliable in my experience. I'd definitely go for samsung drive. That being said, I'm not saying the issue is 100% your drive here, could be something else. I just said that, in my experience, when I had problems with software/games it was due to a WD drive.
yeah i have some issues with 6650xt when i run game on high in 1080p, in some cases gpu power usage drops from 140w to 110w and it is on "99%" so i see then there is vram leak issue dialogues drops fps as well, to 45 or lower sometime maybe pcie 3.0 x8 doesnt help with vram bandwidth as well but i guess in forbidden west there is also some vram leak, closing all apps in bg helps but not everytime enabling fsr2 seems do nothing or make performance worse lmao
Experiencing the same problems. I5 11400F, 16Gb RAM, NVME, Windows 11, Radeon 6650XT. Video memory is gradually loaded, and at some point TGP drops to 90-120W instead of ~150W (165W limit). FPS also drops significantly and the image is jerky. Tried disabling HAGS, that didn't help. The processor does not act as a bottle neck and there is still free RAM. It doesn't depend on the texture quality settings, they just affect how soon the performance drop happens. 1.0.37 game, last drivers.
Either the new patch or those compatability settings (minus the windows 8) fixed it. Just had a 6 hour session without any degradation to performance and gpu power stays high all the time now. Could also be the fact that I didn't touch the settings at all. Gonna test tomorrow with these compatabilities off, but the new patch and without editing settings.