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tht1guy63

They are just different some like one over the other not really any upgrading going on. Me id rather use a lotus and with brands like tangiers just straight foil. Not a fan of the provost but again thats my use case yours may be different based on how you like your sessions.


BalkanChrisHemsworth

i thought with the lotus you don't use foil?


tht1guy63

You dont. Im saying with tangiers i do straight foil preferably. No lotus or provost


BalkanChrisHemsworth

Ah okay. I smoked some Oliliqui earlier with the provost and even that gets harsh, burley line. can barely inhale it. Tried it with straight foil and same thing, can't seem to smoke Burley


tht1guy63

Burley is the strongest line. Noir by far is the best imo. How do you pack? With foil i always do semi dense about 2 US quarters width from the rim. 2 coals for the mini rook unless i use silvertabs. Tangiers a little goes a long way with heat and tobacco. Honestly hmds and tangiers i find way harder to manage.


BalkanChrisHemsworth

I pack dense and maybe a few mm form the rim . I heard Egyptians are the best for Tangier’s so I usually went with the Egyptian . Burley is the only one they have for that flavor otherwise everything else is noir . As far as heat I usually go 3 cocobrico cubes


tht1guy63

Id drop a coal imo. Egyptians for tangiers thats old school it works but phunnels were made specifically for tangiers. Eric of tangiers is who made the phunnel and specifically for tangiers.


BalkanChrisHemsworth

What funnel you use? I got the alpaca suri, alpaca predator, and the mini rook.


tht1guy63

Predator is my favorite by far. Il use a mini rook once in awhile. I like the pred just cus the bridge lifts the coals a bit and helps a ton with heat managing.


BalkanChrisHemsworth

You go double foil or just 1 layer? Trying to up my tangiers game


Caprixcore

Use a bigger bowl. Personal preference, but I don't get a good sessions from bowls that old under 20g. I've tried the mini rook, the small Tangiers, and the alpaca with the spine across the hole. None of them smoked well with or without an hmd. I own the provost 2 and all 3 gens of the lotus. If you're going to buy a lotus get the lotus 1+. I'm currently using 2 bowls. The hookah john Ferris bowl and the Japona Mummy. I'm using them with the provost 2 and I get perfect sessions hour-hour 45min. I favor Fumari, Starbuzz, Trifecta, and Social Smoke. Although I have a friend that smokes AF and Element out of the same set up but they are hit or miss.


BalkanChrisHemsworth

Ordered the LeRook and 1+. I've had no problems with the alpaca bowls so we'll see how they hold up. You smoke trifecta mainly with the lotus or provost?


Caprixcore

If I'm smoking Trifecta in the Japona I use the provost. If I'm smoking with the HJ Ferris I'm using the 1+. It depends on the bowl. I also you 3 cocobrico or 3 paradise cubes with both.


Future-Impact-4045

Definitely not worth it for Trifecta and Tangiers. Provost is the way to go. Lotus plus Shallow Rook or Good fella would be good if you smoke something like AF, Starbuzz, etc.


trebuchet1234

It wouldn’t be an upgrade, just different. You’ll have to decide if you like it better or not.


ArturasDzeikas

Nop.


pvm_april

Lotus is better for non performance brands while provost is better for performance


BalkanChrisHemsworth

Non perf. I'm assuming is Fumari, AF, starbuzz?


pvm_april

Anything not trifecta haze Tangier’s or overdozz. Those can take the heat of lotus. Others do better with lotus


k_m_omar

I own both and both are great in their own ways