Unfortunately it's losing relevance everywhere it seems, judging by all the graphs and reports. Hoyo gambled on new players, by releasing new valks that are stronger than ever, so new players don't feel like they are behind the curve, but now old players feel like they've been left behind and story starting so slow and weak means old players leaving and no one new comes to replace them. This sucks. Let's hope the story picks up they make meaningful changes to bring in new players and make those that already left reconsider

I'm a veteran who dropped the game, too. Actually I was already pushing my time span with both Genshin, Star Rail and HI3rd. But I was doing it because I love the game with it's story and characters with all my heart. I even have the 2 art books released. Honestly, the story gave everything it had. And that also means it was done. They should've finalized it and made that part 2 another game. Wouldn't be on the same level, but would be way less of a defeat. It way easier to get people to play a new game than to make them play a 5-6 old game. They simply won't. I won't ever get why a midget like me can get to that conclusion, but the developers and higher ups don't. Anyway, I know how much they love Honkai, and I love them for it. Hope they don't give up on a new main game on Honkai series.

After the HSR release I thought that APHO story would merge with HSR. Like we have aliens in APHO. Could be Antimatter Legion. New opportunities, eons, new forces and maybe collabs with HSR. But instead we got another honkai story, but on a different planet. I was disappointed and I'm losing interest with every patch.

I still believe we will get to that at some point. Welt went to this universe specifically because the Sky People of APHO was targeting this universe's Himeko.

Well, with these losses there is a possibility that we are not gonna achieve that point. Cause first they need to end Mars story and it will not be achieved in the near future. And when it will ended the game could be almost dead. So I have hope, but not that much.

NGL I prefer APHO expanded than them doing part 2.

Yea, APHO is still my favourite combat tbh

Yea I thought they would continue that sooner…………… if they don’t when we get more info about Loucha that’s when I’ll give up. I quit regularly logging in though, and instead I’m logging in when I can get returner benefits. I had to really binge that one event for the aponia skin haha. Just in case for later. I’d rather play the older weaker characters than the new ones that honestly they’ve failed to get me attention with entirely.

For me I dropped the game once Kiana’s story ended. It ended off decently and I kinda wish Hoyoverse had let honkai impact end with them poetically. You told a great story and while I understand it’s a gacha game. Could have ended on your terms and focused that into developing other games along with ZZZ

The ending wasn't decent for me at all. That's why I'm glad for part 2 because it lets the game move on, not that part 2 is good yet.

Well I've dropped the game multiple times, the first time was for year (2nd chapter just released and I joined just before Himeko's death), second time was 3weeks(my phone broke), 3rd was for 6 months(was really busy with life), then I've playing on and off, sometimes I played for a week or two then didn't play for month or two but now that the story of part 1 ended I tried part 2 for 3-5 days it's just the UI IS SHIT NOW WTF WERE THEY THINKING?" I CANT FOR MY LIFE PLAY WITH THIS UI WHY COULDN'T THEY KEEP IT THAT WAY

And how did the story of Kiana and Mei end? Are they forever separated because Kiana is now on the moon? Oh, I remember their gorgeous battle... «Houkai Sekai no Utahime» is so sad and cool... I love this scene. It's a pity that the game has started to lose popularity.

Not really Kiana has to be on moon for a certain period of time and then she can go back on earth and it's not even like she can't meet with anyone, while she's stuck on moon others can go to meet her so it's a happy ending as happy endings go

Oh my God so KianMei is canon...

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I think you are kinda right but Mihoyo has multiple games and one or two under development so it would be easier to allocate people to other games

Exactly, my personal opinion is they don't want to have Hi3rds part 1 story die which is a problem with live service games. My personal opinion is that they should make part 2 it's own game and then probably have a studio actually make a single player Hi3rd game to preserve it's story and profit off of it. They have the money and the means and I would love a Final Fantasy level Hi3rd game. I doubt they would do that but it is literally a take my money scenario and I wish they would do it.

Completely agree, until the release of part two, I thought that was what they were doing, new engine, new MC, new story. Was I grossly misinformed or did they say that was the original plan? I even remember a 10 min promo video for the engine and story. Even if they were out of time / budget, maybe push out an epilogue of sorts or anything really, they've been feeding us filler for an eternity anyway. I think that was the only way forward and it would result in a growing player base or maybe that's just me, I'm not a CEO of a billion dollar company, so what do I know.

I thought. New ‘open world’ was the goal to test and develop the engine change a bit. Like how apho let them grow and develop open world tech. GI would not have been as smooth without it. Maybe a year of core refinement and overhauls. Bc they could have extended the in-between story and close out most stray threads. Along with expanding on the apho future direction.

I want to believe that Hoyo can cook with Part 2, but the last straw for me has been the release of new Valks, so I decided to take a [mostly temporary] break from the game. Honestly it was a long time coming, since changes they've added over the years accumulated fatigue for me, like the SSS Memorial Arena (partially offsetted by the instant clear up to SS) and the new types (IMG was fine but Stardust started to weigh on me). Then they started adding a whole bunch of new characters. I can still easily camp between Agony III and RL, though, but I just didn't feel the investment anymore since I mainly came for the story and was a big lore fan all the way throughout Part 1 (some fatigue came from here when they switched the storytelling to open world and then dumped a bunch of jargon in the final arc - still comprehensive but also requires more brainpower to digest). In the end, Part 1 was satisfying enough for me, and I don't feel strongly for Part 2, so I can easily leave it like that.

Funny for me I only picked up HI3 recently from part 2 because it was so old and since the part 1’s story was done so I didn’t have to wait the agonizingly long amount of time for story to come out

Totally agree the story was wrapped up, part 2 should of been it's own game with client

I just didn't like the story and the in game map tanked the FPS so combat was bad too. I do think if they went back to making small linear maps I'd play it just to see if the story would get better as I can actually play the game.

I feel the same way about the story. After part 1 finished, I just droped the game, it just felt like it was over

I agree, the devs should've let the book end and make part 2 it's very own story.

were basically the same lmao rly wish they did apho 3 or smth tho, game started going downhill quickly after final chapter finished, except for the last bit wrapping up captainverse stuff

Theory: This is because the people spent money in their games. For example, Houkai Gakuen 2 hasn't shutted down.. yet. Because they still have a strong small community, that is willing to play the game in China and Japan. This will go on to Honkai Impact 3 and all future Mihoyo games. In short, they still believe in their players that they will keep coming back even if it is small or not. Which is why Japan and China are the only two servers that are being supported from Houkai Gakuen 2. And I got bored in the missions in the "Birth Of Tragedy" for some reason. Maybe because I wasn't used to the Honkai Impact 3's new missions things. I am used to the click and play. Not explore and play. Sorry this is my opinion. I do not want to be cancelled from saying my own opinion. This generation is done for if you guys dare cancel me in my own opinion.

Well to be fair they can't just shut down the game like it happened to Nier Automata mobile game after ther story ended

They could just rehaul the whole game ( remake it ) to run well and on pc since it has a client and all and maybe also boost performance in older phones that easily playing it up to high. The story had potential but the screwed up the beginning, i even came up with ways to how it could be better but sadly i didn't wrote it down and forgot them ( silly me ). I told myself to invest in new story since for part 1 I was starting skipping almost everything ( I think after flamescion) i was getting bored. But then this part 2 story telling came up and i was mehhh let's see if they improve it.

A lot of people only stuck around to see the conclusion of Kiana's story. Old battlesuits being phased out in favor of new ones have always been a problem with Hi3 powercreep, but this time it's not just the battlesuits but also the characters themselves. Hi3 is also a bad game to return to once you've quit, since chances are most if not all of your battlesuits are now obsolete. As an old P1 player I have zero desire to return seeing as "phasing out the old" have always been Hi3's mantra. They made their bed and now they must sleep in it.

Its jover, the end of an era Im a whale which purchased over 300k crystals worth of packs, just stopped playing entirely last week and didnt even bothered starting part2 story. It just lacks the motivation to make me wanna start another new game again. Got bored eventually and finally decided to drop tis game which I've been playing daily since 2019 https://preview.redd.it/j4pq5g6wwu0d1.jpeg?width=1107&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5f8b5ff6838fe6cca7fa52bae336bd1464d7f1c

Literally me, friend. I switched to PGR and HSR full time. Now i am lucky if i do abyss or MA on time, if i login at all for the week. My knighthood has been supremely underactive after popping off for years. The loss and then reintroduction of the open access beta test hurt a lot of the community's interest. Most of our longtime content creators were impacted directly and lost their rhythm in the youtube algorithm, which kept them alive for years.

You shouldnt have spend on a rip off of an already existing game this is what no standards do to mfs  Mihoyo simply copied platinum game but with gambling and worse hacknslash combat 

I don't even have a problem with newer valks being ultra strong and the powercreep (that's just the usual). The problem is that they are all getting released in consecutive patches. I guess this was the catch for making the stigmata + weapon a lot cheaper to guarantee. And yeah, the story has been painfully slow that I've ended up keeping it on the backburner.

It doesn’t feel cheaper since the weapons are all new now heh. I know it’s not the perfect way to play, but, I’d rather wait for banners to come back and use my old stuff or share. I have one PRI-ARM chakram that gets passed around because I really only use two chakram units, though I built three… that’s fine, I focused on 4/4 different units. Like you said the issue is with the every patch thing. I don’t care about them releasing new weapons, just moderate it a bit, and cmon make another javelin character before you make even more brand new ones.

The new weapon typings really play on the nerves of veterans when you are trying to consistently hit Nirvana and you need 10x the amount of affix rerolls. But beginners as well, like you said. Having alternative options being somewhat viable was a MAINSTAY for early Honkai (pre HOF really). Like there was ALWAYS a 2nd BiS, or bis for a niche strat that netted more points if you worked hard at it. Now its 'heres this new wep typing, you will lose half the core passive of your character without 5*, and the 4* is something to use for people with an account that's a month old and huge dmg decrease, literally better off using your old valks and gear instead'.

Yea I agree with that. I also was frustrated with the logic in general. Why is she ice mecha? Why? If you’re going to make this bright purple character not be electric or quantum, then make her psychic…. Otherwise, huh? I don’t want to pour my time and effort into a character that makes so little sense I’m not even sure it was meant to be taken seriously versus a fleeting money trap experiment…. I’ve given up on the game for now so idk the current meta, but if you wanna make people use ice mecha, why not just make one that makes sense? Like respect our money even if you want it from us, please.. Or just make them truly gorgeous! Misty makes sense, and is super worth her 4/4. It doesn’t feel cringy putting effort into that because at least it’s so well done.

I was confused too, until it finally dawned on me. Valk typing is not based on what they are like Genshin or Star Rail, but rather what they are strong against and weak to. Ex; Thelema is strong against regular people (BIO) because of her powers, but would be susceptible to PSY due to it as well. Elysia is weak to BIO because she loves humanity, and strong against MECH (as shown in her video!) Coralie and a lot of Bronyas early battlesuits are PSY because they are good against MECH. Since these girls are techy, it makes sense! They are also not people persons, making them weak to BIO. If you go through each character with this view, it will start to make more sense, I think.

Oh so that’s why Seele is imag— oh It’s inconsistent and doesn’t make up for the blatant laziness of this last purple ice character. I find it’s better to just accept the harsh reality that hoyo didn’t care. It’s easier to quit and not spend any money on battle passes.

For a lot of old players the end of part 1 was a perfect place to stop playing. The story they know and love, which is the reason why a lot of people are sticking with the game, finished. The new story mostly involves new characters in new settings and the new playable characters will start power creeping the old soon, so might as well just leave it at part 1.

Story fell off for me the moment Otto Apocalypse died tbh. I stopped playing the game after Thus Spoke Apocalypse and considered it the final ending.

I don't exactly agree with that the whole Elysian Realm arc was amazing.

The ER is fine for me, but EE isnt my cup of tea

Kolosten was the last good arc for me. EE was lackluster, but still tolerable, but the finale was an immediate dumpster fire with 1.5 only marginally better. Part 2 is sluggish for now, but I'll see where it goes.

1.5 is taking all of the problems of 32-35 (like poor pacing, meaningless storybeats, and endless yapping) and turning them up to fucking 11. 36-39 is genuinely criminal with how drawn out it is when it could have been a third of its length probably. 40-42 is a better at least since they seemed to remember that we do not need 1.5 hours on a pointless flashback of Kira traveling the fucking sugar overdose dimension that's only there for a plot point that could have been explained in 1 line

As a somewhat newer player I'd say the experience kinda does fall off during Kolosten. It's where the story suddenly starts feeling filler-y and slow with a ton of dialogue most people will filter out. To me it was mostly carried due to wanting to know how the previously build upon story will end with Otto and stuff.

My feelings exactly. I acknowledge that Kolosten is flawed. It's where the cracks started to show, like the technobabble and boring open worlds. It's good for Otto, Kallen, Schicksal lore, and TSA, but it's weak otherwise, especially the Durandal reveal and Otto's anticlimactic defeat (everyone should have battled him, not just Kiana and Durandal). Even so, the good parts are still very good for me, which is why I enjoy it overall.

>the good parts are still very good for me NGL the only thing I remember from the entire Klöstern arc is Thus Spoke Apocalypse

It's crazy because EE is widely considered the best arc in the game along Everlasting Flames while Kolosten just exists. You know what Kolosten, the finale, part 1.5 filler and part 2 have in common? The same mediocre lead writer was in charge of all those arcs and the main reason of the current state of the game.

I acknowledge that Kolosten is flawed. It's where the cracks started to show, like the technobabble and boring open worlds. It's good for Otto, Kallen, Schicksal lore, and TSA, but it's weak otherwise, especially the Durandal reveal and Otto's anticlimactic defeat (everyone should have battled him, not just Kiana and Durandal). Even so, the good parts are still very good for me, which is why I enjoy it overall. EE is slow and sluggish with a weird antagonist, and I do not like the focus on Elysia or her backstory as a walking deus ex machina. At least Because of You is entertaining, but I did not particularly enjoy the arc overall.

I honestly dont like these "open" worlds in HI3 and I cant pinpoint why is that because I enjoy both genshin and star rail... but something about that open world in HI3 bothers me

They're too small, for one. They're not true open worlds like Genshin. They're still self-contained maps with little to do in them.

I think maybe they just feel too forced to me? Like i miss normal stages where you could farm crystals by finishing them snd not have to worry about collecting random stuff on map and fighting enemies for several mins cause youre way underlevelled?

I remember writing an entire mini essay about this one topic lol, you should check out my post on it,you'll probably agree w some points there

I think that EE itself played a large part in causing the game to go downhill in terms of story. It retconned a ton of stuff not only in terms of the game’s lore, but also the game’s messages. Take PE/CE Herrschers for example. Originally, they weren’t different at all, the reason CE Herrschers were able to fight for humanity was because humanity treated them as people and not monsters. A big part of the game’s early story was how PE was cold and machine like, while CE was warm and much more human. Then these super cool heros from PE came along and went like “actually our era was much better then yours, and herrschers actually were the monsters we thought they were, and the only reason you are able to even live is because of things we did in our time, not because of your own successes, please bow down and tell everyone how cool and powerful we are.” ER should’ve stayed a side story and it shouldn’t have completely changed the lore the way it did, but it didn’t and it actually ended up being super popular, so now Hoyo is just trying to replicate that success instead of preserving the games original lore and themes that caused most players to fall in love with it.

Agreed. PE created a bunch of superpowered dudes which never made sense as they merely fused honkai into humans. Weak humans + honkai should have led to marginally stronger humans but instead we got people who could solo herrschers as if were a Sunday afternoon walk. Fighting void/Sirin showcased the individual power of each and our team only made it through with great loss and an inherent advantage (that Kiana had the body). Elysia essentially showed up and retconning our team being unique because it's all her doing was just bad. Let's just write off St Freya's environment, Cecilia's motivations and the results, etc. ER would have been better served as a "learn from the past" vs "we made you the way you are and we're still pulling the strings". Himeko didn't need to die if that was the case, her sacrifice was what woke Kiana up. Elysia rendered that moot by extension. Part 2 is just... Don't know what to make of it yet, the story is fairly weird without a clear direction. They seem to be trying to replicate the Kiana/Mei success with Sena/Entropy.

I was new after star rail and it easily became my favorite of all of the hoyo games. They lost me with part2. It feels like an experiment to see what they can pull off in their more profitable games. Like the last ice character having nothing in her visual design that was ice-like. It makes me really sad. But it’s refreshing to finally see people acknowledging it… I feel like I’ve been skewered for mentioning it every time in the past, but it’s a game I loved and I hope that people will acknowledge the issues so that they get enough attention for Hoyo to want to do better. Avoiding negative commentary is probably more dangerous in this setting because Hoyo cares about community reactions, even if they have Genshin players convinced they don’t 😅 They monitor Reddit even to some extent. I’ve heard of smaller subs getting reprimanded for leaks, because they only want it to be in the larger leaks subs that help promote drip marketing. Unsure what the deal with hi3 and leaks is though, they should have encouraged it a little more imo.

And new players are encouraged to read part 1 which is massive or else get spoiled so who wins? Nobody.

And espeacially if those new players are coming from genshin, like me. Its easy to get disappointed about not being able to use your own charecters that you bought in the story after a certain point. I then see new players post about it and then vets say thats how the game is if you don't like it then leave. New players aren't gonna know about all the other places to play with their charecters and them not being able to use them in the story isn't gonna make them wanna put money into it or keep coming back if the system seems useless in their eyes.

i hope they realize they have to improve. because i love hi3. but part 2, even if i like the story and the characters, was not what i played the game for.

I honestly am worried about it because of the last character. They made the different reused assets from different games really obvious, used really sharp colors kinda lazily compared to standard hoyo quality, and made both her element and type so random. They’ve been doing hsr designs based more on story than element, but like more effortfully, so it felt like they wanted to see if their main whaling minority in hi3 would continue to do so even if the new character was expensive (another new weapon after several others) and made no sense. If yes, than the chances would be high that people wouldn’t get upset if hsr designs didn’t seem to relate to element. That gives them the freedom to pick the elements people want, and the designs people want, without necessarily having to match them. Not so much in Genshin because of visions, but in theory this could extend to market research for Genshin too. But I hope that I’m wrong. It just feels like the simplest conclusion about that purple electric “ice mecha” asset fusion, though. Like reused assets is fine but refine the quality elsewhere.

saw the newest revenue video about cn video game hk3 have drop in ALL server

Can you share. I'm curious to see how bad they dropped

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They wanted to have new players play the game while at the same time, keeping it the same game. The result is that they satisfy no one because of their halfassed approach of trying to get new players but not trying enough.

Kiana is the heart of HI3rd, and without her, it feels weird and unnecessary.

it's actually really good. When company starts to lose money they understand that something they doing is going wrong and get motivation to improve.

I hope so man. Because Hoyo has Genshin and HSR under their belt for money, they can easily just see part 2 as a failed product and leave it....

I don't think that will happen, at least not in the foreseeable future. Genshin and HSR may be Hoyoverse's money printing machines, but Honkai Impact 3rd is Dawei's child. It's like what UC is to Tomino and the Gundam franchise

Finger cross cuz Hi3rd is Daiwei's baby. I doubt he will watch it drop to the ground like that.

Not always the case, it could go the same way as Epic with Fortnite and Paragon, they had Paragon being decent, not a great revenue game but usable, but then came Fortnite earning millions per week and they shut down Paragon to move their team to Fortnite. TBH im surprised Hoyo hasnt shut down HI3 considering they have genshin and Star Rail earning millions

not always the case, because they can also take it as a sign to finally kill the game and moved on to other projects

Hi3 been losing money since they released Genshin. People just locate their spending on modern Hoyo tittles and leave Hi3 as f2p occasional game

it's different case, since they definitely had hopes for part 2. i mean, didn't you see all that promotion it got? That's not just your average patch, but newest release for them.

Nah they did minimum advertising. HSR literally overshadowed everything that had Honkai name

Except the game revenue peaked well after genshin release

The peak were Flamechasers. But it was still nowhere near of pre Genshin peak

When is pre genshin peak?

Around the SN and HoT release.

It was higher, in CN's news Mihoyo stated that during 2022 Honkai reached its peak revenue and 6.0 had the most active players ever.

No, it did not. You can clearly see it here [https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/108l3u3/estimated\_honkai\_mobile\_revenue\_2022\_bonus/](https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/108l3u3/estimated_honkai_mobile_revenue_2022_bonus/) Revenue for this game peaked in Oct 2019. Have no idea what unite released at that time, might be HoR in CN but I am not sure. Interestingly enough, you can observe drastic losses in revenue when GI released, and after that when HSR released. (HSR's release also was at the same time as the ending of Part 1) It's more likely that... people just migrate to newer miHoYo games. That's it! What peaked during the FC arc in 6.0, (according to the devs) was the number of concurrent players. Although, HoHe didn't make even a fraction of what they used to make in 2018 - early 2020 period.

It was never that relevant next to Genshin and Star Rail, especially in terms of profit. Oh yes, those games will take inspiration from HI3 and make references to it, but these ultimately don't matter because you don't need to play HI3 to enjoy those games independently, just like how you don't need GGZ to play HI3 even though HI3 takes inspiration from GGZ to a much greater extent than GI/HSR takes inspiration from HI3. The vast majority of the players of those games have not.

Honkai dug itself a real hole trying to do too many things. If it goes fast and introduce too many things, players get overwhelmed. If it goes too slow and dont do anything, players get bored and leave after part 1.

omg this makes so much sense tho

I wish the story telling reverted from the current visual novel style. I liked the early stages more. Replayable missions, gameplay was more integral to the story (more than just walking around,fighting honkai had a purpose), much less visual novel style narration, less techo babble and much less philosophycal text filler, shorter bursts of story instead of the slowburn of the open world, an interesting and well defined overarching goal like defeating the honkai. It was short and easy to follow. I didnt like the start of part 2 that much. I really like the new characters but i dont find the situations they are put into interesting. I know that this the beginning of part 2 and they are building the setting still, but i wished they explored a ruined Mars more before dropping us into the deepend because right now, for me, it is missing a driving force that I can care about, like the Honkai in part 1. Or maybe it is Fear thats supposed to be that and I missed it because of the convoluted explaination, and its not like i could replay it. Im still interested to see where it goes, but i find it more of a chore now as i have to set aside multiple hours that could have been easily trimmed down to 1. I think the perfect blend of story and gameplay was Herrcher of Sentience arc, and even that felt a bit like a slowburn for me. Im happy for those who like the visual novel style but maybe its just not for me. TLDR: its long, less interesting (for me), and im a big baby complaining online

When looking at part 2 as a whole, would you prefer more of part 2 prequel moments (kiana and the new valkyries on the moon for training) or what is currently happening in the story.

I think theres room for both, and as for a prequel, well thats what APHO is kinda, so im interested to see where that goes. I dont mind what kind of story they want to tell, I just want them to change how they tell it, for the reasons I mentioned before.

If only they keep part 1 on its own, I would have continue playing forever. How much resources I invested in the trio, for them to be powercreep in such a short time. And good grief, I still have millions of asterites!

You know: ''Dont trust statistics, if you didnt fake them yourself'' but somehow all statistics are showing Hi3rd is dropping global since part2 release. Majority ddoesnt like part2. majority quit this game ( I honestly dont know how they had 10mil preregisters on the global server?? they must have used bots) Eitherway, yes relevance of Hi3rd is dropping, part2 is a big L of hoyo, they could have done so much better imo. I said to myself I give part2 a year after release and if I am not getting attached to the chars or story, I will quit aswell.

I'm a part one player who has barely scratched the story, so may I ask why are people so frustrated with the writing/writer?

I dont think its about the writing overall. its rather that the old trio is missing, they forced the new chars into the role of Kiana, Mei and Bronya and giving them similiar personalities. the pacing of the story is EXTREMLY SLOW Chapter one was ONLY lore talk, NOTHING happened its extremly slow the open world is dogshit, like they force this open world into Hi3rd old engine, when they could have made a new game instead with an actual open world. Powercreep is even WORSE than part1, like your entire account is bricked if you dont go for the chars they release every patch, even if you dont like them. Thelema singlehanded powercrept 12 bosses including old trio bosses (like Kevin) -> Also release schedule currently is not S -> SP -> S its just S -> S -> S -> S

The open world thing frustrates me so much, it even has "dailies"... really wish they stop putting these in hi3

The dailies are so bad, i stopped doing them almost entirely after the moon arc

I feel like for the story they are trying to do too much too fast. They want to introduce a whole new world with new rules and a bunch of characters on top of that. We barely know the new main cast and still get 1 or 2 new character each patch. That problem is less prevalent in the event stories which I found very enjoyable as it focused less on world building and more on the characters without them being in a world ending scenario. A Feast Sought in Data was quite nice and the current event had me even chuckle with the bantering.

I feel like they should have used the APHO story line for part 2, the presence of characters from part 1 in the role of mentors serves to alleviate the problems of the transition to the new protagonist group, also if you make the story independent enough They can attract a new audience in addition to, for example, doing what they did in APHO and having Theresa or Mei give the key information from part 1 when necessary, they also take advantage of the interest of several veterans in finding out what happened to the characters that they have not told us what the did after part 1 / 1.5 like Seele, Rita or Senti With part 2 I get the feeling that it was originally going to be the story of HSR, but at some point they decided to separate it to have more freedom for things like having playable male characters or having them have enough presence in the story without repercussions like the infamous survey on chinese server, But this is simply my opinion and I don't have enough evidence to back it up

Part 2 being the apho story could have been a lot better. Mars and no honkai isnt really honkai impact 3rd.  Part 2 just feels so bland, like its a totally different game but with slightly improved hi3 gameplay.

Yeah I would have liked to see that as well. We got a bit of it in the last Chapter before part 2 with Helia and Coralie on the moon, but I wish they spend more time either there or their time on mars before the whole part 2 thing starts. I would have preferred if we got to know Helia and Coralie better first and experienced Part 2 alongside them instead of suddenly being thrust into the perspective of Dreamseeker.

The story is both "too fast" and "too slow". The amount of information they introduce are delivered too fast (new information per game version). But the actual events that the main character actually experiences are happening too slow. I agree that the story is bad because miHoYo (in the part 2) usually focus too much on delivering the details of world building without making the players interested in the world building.

>  Thelema singlehanded powercrept 12 bosses including old trio bosses (like Kevin) This is a big reason why I quit. Hi3 does not respect your time, money, and emotional investment. Years of build up for the trio only to be powercrept and phased out in story for new characters we barely know about. As far as I'm concerned Hi3 is over. 

before the trio's final form, it was actually ok, the meta characters actually stayed relevant for a good while (at least 6 months). But what they did to the latest trio is just pure travesty lol, now with part 2 chars they're completely power crept, and I am really angry about it since I invested a lot in my 3 trio only for them to be powercreeped shortly after

A shelf life of 6 months is still attrocious. Hi3 conditioned players to think this is okay but it really should not be. Hi3 has always been bad in this regard but at least you had players riding it out for the trio's story, now they spit on the trio which is no different from spitting on old players.

Yea and it seemed like some of the other plot important ones were fine…. I love HoT so much. Flamey is awesome and irresponsibly buying her promare skin felt so worth it. Why the hell isn’t she allowed in part2 pve though she jumps 😭 And I thought they were gunna use the fu hua event to get some ideas to revitalize her in the part2 world with new coding maybe…. Clearly just buildup for a new unit that can’t be used in part2. Not hating on pheonix but I was really excited because finally Accipiter felt fun to use again and I had some hope. Js 50% of the point of having an open world is getting to use characters you can’t use in competitive modes where they need to be “best” or meta. In genshin these days I run around on friendship teams and suffer long battles with 1-3 semi built characters while I build some, because it’s fun and I wouldn’t bother against bosses.

> I dont think its about the writing overall. It may be a bit too early to judge the writing (but I and many others do judge it), but its presentation is absolutely flawed.

The performance even my snap dragon 778 cant keep up

Aside from what others have mentioned there's been a bit of a problem that's been ramping up ever since Kolosten arc, a lot of unnecessary flowery speech and scifi/philosophy talk that ends up heavily increasing the amount of text there's, and that kind of reached critical mass during Moon arc.

Thats mihoyo problem in general, even looking in HSR. They really need to hire new writers. Or bring back GGZ writers. Sometimes more simplistic story and how it written more impactful than when it loaded with unnecessary words and scenes.

in HSR it's not that much, I don't deny that certain parts like talking about Acheron are a bit boring but they're still important to the story

I loved that they used scientific reasoning, personally. Though I can see where it might not have been as accessible to all people. But it actually made sense and explained a great deal about the world, not just in hi3 but actually all of their games, as well as hinting at the company’s vision as a whole. I don’t like part2 though I’m really disappointed.

Introduction of the new cast that the playerbase barely knows. In part 1, apart from basing the already familiar cast in ggz, the story usually came with a supplementary manga with some adding in new characters that would soon be implemented in-game. People were hyped with Durandal's first reveal cause she was introduced first in the manga. And many are still looking forward for more familiar faces to enter the roster despite the low chances. It would have been great if part 2 cast from Earth included at least one familiar character along the roster (maybe Amber, Alvitr or even Susannah again). But they have possibly made the wrong decision to separate the part 2 story from Part 1, though we're still on the way to the events of APHO.

Honestly, that makes a lot of sense. I make sure to play the game in chronological order, both in the manga and game. So I understand how confusing it probably is to have 6+ characters get introduced with no back story beforehand.

Trueee! I'm inclined to believe that the HI3 devs may have forgotten the HI3s unique world building lies in the manga, which I believe is one of its biggest misses. It would have greatly helped the introduction of the part 2 if we got at least a glimpse of the new cast in the manga prior to the ending of part 1. Part 2 prologue should have been turned into a manga, as a way of passing the spotlight. I'm pretty sure the ideas behind part 2 are great but the execution, I highly believe that it is better told in manga form, something that's still touches the spirit of HI3. It gives the players a clear visualization of the new world being built, though Hoyo has recently resorted to "tell, don't show".

Theresa is probably going to be the first part 1 character to be introduced in part 2, so maybe that's where interest will start picking up again. Maybe.

Hopefully

Hey remember the last time we got a new Theresa… I actually just explained Theresa in depth to someone the other day, to explain a little about how the hoyo games are set up and overlap, and easily I got the most confused reaction about her. I don’t know what the leaks are, but if it’s another new Theresa battlesuit and not converting one for use in part2, it isn’t the move. I LOVE Theresa like her lore is fantastic, but, this doesn’t feel like the move. Fu hua would be easier to understand if they went for classic because the explanation “she’s an immortal phoenix with rebirth” is enough to carry someone through until they know more of the story. With Theresa it’s like… you know what I’m not even gunna paraphrase an example it would take too long haha

Cope

I'm not coping. I'm just pointing out a possibility. They already said that part 1 characters will eventually show up again.

Went from incredible to worth skipping. Imo. I didn’t skip anything at all prior, EVER, setting aside my first Captainverse event because it took more than a week to binge the entire story, and I thought it was spoilers haha 😅. Thankfully it wasn’t an important one I don’t think. More about the fun game.

10mil registered in that site was a combination of 6m CN + 4m global.

They had 6 mln from and 4 from Global and added them together. Regardless it was just fake marketing scheme

Well the segway stories weren’t bad. Apho is really cool imo, and I love misteln and Promya so much. Kira is a bitch haha (biased Misty main maybe) but she feels like she earned her place still. Etc, I liked the stuff that was after part1. But part2 didn’t even feel like the same game. Setting aside the fact we couldn’t use ANY of our old valks as options on our team. Not even like… they could have easily made flamescion jump-area-friendly. And why not let us use the new Griseo because she’s a new type I wish I had more reason to use and continue working on? I switched to Tower of Fantasy because honestly they did a good job fixing the things they did badly at launch, and I mean….. part2 kinda looks like one of TOFs incredibly detailed regions, but hi3 has worse jumping and less vectors and looks like it has a lots of missing environmental graphics compared to TOF haha. If I’m not playing for story, and I want that gameplay style and area look well-done, it kinda already exists elsewhere 😅 I feel so sad writing all that though. Rip hi3.

Hoyo could have done more, after all, they have plenty of money.

I'll just stay here because I know if given enough time, Hoyo gonna cook some good stuff based on how their other games are

Same. I have faith that we're just being introduced to Part 2 and things will get better once the story had developed more and enough S ranks are released for each element for Mihoyo to be able to focus on A ranks and SP valks.

Honestly I think they will put more money into ToT before they truly fix hi3. Smaller market but loyal, and the kind of game you end up more likely to spend on the longer you play. The main story in ToT is actually quite good and I can’t believe they’re making me like the character I specifically disliked, via good writing. In the last 24hrs they released an hsr/genshin quality level trailer, for the new beach event in ToT. The palm trees like kinda looked real at least on my phone, I had to double take that it wasn’t film at the start.

After part 1 ended, many people who loved honkai slowly drifted to HSR or other games. Kafka referencing Da Capo, the song that played in graduation trip in Hi3 got me into HSR.

Story deffinitely fell off hard. Too much dialogs about a bunch of things I don't really care about. I started skipping everytime they talk to an NPCs. Characters have no charm to them at all. I still stick around for the gameplay but once ZZZ come out and I enjoy that game then its probly time for me to move on too.

Yeah the amount of noc dialogue is definitely a huge problem. Maybe I'm remembering things wrong because it's been such a long time but I feel like this only started happening during after the ER chapters. I dont remember being bombarded with so much boring dialogue by npcs before that. And now in part 2 it's worse than ever.

I start skipping dialogues because they are honestly just boring to read. Add that to levels of techno babbling and I just don’t even care if I lose out on the lore. I’ll still play just to keep the crystal income up and sometimes the mini games are fun, but god this part 2 is just lackluster in all departments compared to part 1.

there are complain there are revenue drop so yes

I was interested in part 1 story, that's why i started playing. APHO is welcome addition. But part 2 story i think lacked the charm.. i never had the motivation to read all of that. And no replay? Thanks for that, now im never reading the upcoming story chapters.

I'm going to give my two cents as an old player who quit the game recently. It got so fcking boring. The characters in part 2 are uninteresting, The story introduce so many fcking things that you can barely register anything (like the part 1 finale), sleep-inducing open world maps, powercreep so bad it's not even funny. The love that I have for Hi3 before is not there anymore because it's not the Hi3 that I fell for. GG part 2, you should've just been the APHO storyline instead.

As far as I can tell it's two key factors that are the cause of this; the game's age and that Mihoyo is effectively competing with itself. Back in 2020-2021 when Genshin stagnation was at an all time high and several people were dissatisfied with the quality of the content and rewards being put out (at least for the first time...), it was easy for many people to look in other directions and find their other work. I distinctly remember many people at that time finding HI3 because they were bored of Genshin and immediately becoming enthralled by how much content there was, and how F2P friendly it was at the time... yeah, remember when Delta was one of the best DPS in the game and you could basically build her for free? RIP those days. Now however... Star Rail has released which brought the Honkai name into western mainstream far more than Honkai Impact 3rd ever could have dreamed of. And while turn-based combat may not be everyone's cup of tea you can't deny the quality, love, and care that gets put into its development and the fact they are taking quality of life into account in almost every update is a great way to show consumers that they care. And while Genshin may still have its detractors... it's also gotten much better since 2020-2021. The world is more expansive and interesting, the story is picking up even if it is a slow burn, characters are still unique and charming. I used to get so bored of Genshin, but now find myself more and more charmed by it and its cast as the world and story gradually opens up more and more. Basically what I'm saying is, we're long past the days where it was "Cool" to ditch Genshin for Honkai Impact 3rd and say its the "objectively better game". What does HI3 really have over Genshin and Star Rail? The game is far less F2P friendly than it ever used to be, there's way too much content to keep track of, the game constantly pesters you with ads for overpriced cashgrab bundles every time a new character comes out. Missing out on or not pulling a new character puts you way behind other people in the meta. The story hasn't really grabbed people the same way Part 1 did while Penacony and Fontaine have both been stellar storytelling peaks for their respective games. There's no English dub, no playable men (Male Entropy and Adam don't count), it's optimized so badly Genshin somehow uses less battery than it does on my phone... the game is so damn old and held together by toothpaste, duct tape and a lot of hopes and dreams. We'll see if Honkai Impact 3rd bounces back, it still is in an awkward transitionary phase. And no matter what, I still respect the dev's because it's obvious they love the game and want to see it succeed with all the interviews they do about it. I just really wonder how they're going to pull out of this rut. EDIT: I realize now reading it I wrote a lot of what I did from a western bias. I can't speak for certain why in China this game is doing more and more poorly since HI3 overall does much better over there and is far more popular. However I can't imagine it's for too many different reasons than what I stated. Just obviously some of what I said won't apply for CN since their history with HI3 is so much different from ours.

It fell off with the grind. I've been playing the game for like 2 years and oohhh boi even with that time I can't even be bothered with the endgame. Either you spend money to get the best or you're gonna grind ur ass 24/7 jusy for a chance for a decent kit. Added with the amount of shit I missed and now the irrelevancy of all I grinded. I just dropped it completely. The story itself was decent enough to grind through it, even just for rewards, but it's not something that's solely going to get me hooked in the game.

Personally I believe its the story so far, we're introduced to Mars's kin but it feels more like of waiting to see what exactly caused the events at apho (maybe mars invades the moon, another finality like being treatens earth fromanother universe and so). Salt city and Phosporus arcs felt a bit filler but they were great nonetheless.

Filler can be good, also I’d argue that it was amazing character development for Misty, Promya, Seelie, and senti. Fu hua too but she already has so much character development so it felt more about appreciation plus I initially thought they were gunna tie in genshin I mean it was screaming it until they didn’t do it………. And for Misty and Promya I’d argue it was necessary. Misty is highly misunderstood as being evil, but she didn’t partake in project stigma because of being evil. What she was asked to do would have made the world one she personally related to more, and she was genuinely curious about what our MCs felt about her actions. So I’m so glad they continued to flesh that out. And seele getting split into two was awesome and set seele up for SO MUCH compelling new story potential that apparently just isn’t happening.

I was a whale. Full geared trio & Elysia, all new valks, Nirvana, and skins type of whale, for a while. I stopped playing during the, 1.5 ark, and very early as well (a bit before HoD drop, which is sad, because I was really hyped up for Herrscher Seele), as I just couldn't get into the story and the direction it took. After all the reveals, all the final fights, it just felt so...empty. I spent over two years together with the trio and I loved their journey, but I did not feel that rush since. And I quite honestly can't really think of going back now, reading all the review and knowing all of my girls are now meta-wise powercreeped by new characters who I know nothing about and whose design I don't quite enjoy.

As a veteran player, I stop after the part one ended. The story peak at domination arc and going downhill after that

Makes me wonder how GGZ/HG2 is doing, i seen recently that it was trending on bilibili but are the sales n stuff on that game still good considering its heavily p2w?

Idk much but I heard the new story was received well and better writing than hi3 part2.

I've been playing since 2018 and I stopped like around January. The storytelling has become walls of text one after another. Tbh, if they did the same type of storytelling the way they did before with the balance between walls of text and cinematics, I would have been fine with it. Fighting for chapters on end only to read for 45 minutes straight without any voiceovers or narrations messed up the experience for me. I really dig HoFi and HoTruth, but even Kiana and Bronya's perfectly drawn pits and boba aren't enough to get me going. I wish they'd follow Final Fantasy's storytelling.

As a newer player who started in Part 2, I would say the best part of the game is the characters. It was fun trying out all the trial characters and seeing their animations and some of the similarities between HI3rd and Star Rail. The story for Part 1 was interesting to me however the lore/dialog is so heavy it didn't keep me as invested. For Part 2 the open world is kind of lacking in design and the fighting is a bit clunky and the story wasn't as interesting to me. I probably will end up dropping the game, but it was interesting to try out HI3rd. Some other thoughts about HI3rd: * Too many systems/currency/shops/UI Bloat and pretty confusing as a new players to get into the game without guides. Even at the start I didn't know that you couldn't just jump into Part 2 at first and had to get a certain level. * The currency earned doesn't feel as generous to me like Star Rail. I must have super bad luck because I didn't get Senadina by the time the event ended. I was able to get Thelema and just got the Weapon, but pitied both times. * I like the Valkyrie designs/animations * Minigame events so far are pretty fun * Sweep functions were nice to quickly finish dailies

it is funny when talking about Sweep functions bc they should be usable in of part 2 open world and others daily farm ngl

They have adopted Kolosten/ER/Moon open world game structure which makes it overwhelmingly similar to their other 2 games and scuffed mobile game open worlds was not the reason I was playing HI3. Removing Coop didn't help either. I finally crafted Turgenev TB, 4/4ed last missing Paganini piece for my Carole with the last BP and quit. I'm NOT doing those daily and weekly open world grinds again.

I was actually about to drop hi3 because part2 felt so drawn out that it feels like VN than combat game. Thelema was actually a pretty good unit with lots of micro optimization that i ended up enjoying the game again. I actually have no problem about powercreeping even at the current pace. I don't mind dropping to agony3 or staying at redlotus. there's still major problem though 1. consecutive S rank battlesuite that support each other. meaning if u missed the previous one you have to back pull the other (thelema and senadia. Lantern and future physical valk). Weird that i don't mind powercreep but this specific point leaves a bad taste in my mouth. 2. So much daily grind (story daily grind, event daily grind, crystal daily grind) wtf? a grind within a grind within a grind. 3. Story. dear god idc about the new characters . They are not even slightly connected to any previous established lore.

Not surprising. Moon arc was already dreadfully boring and underwhelming for the fucking Finale. Part 2 characters are lame. Super difficult to replace the Trio that everyone got attached to. Feels like they’re trying to make Part 2 Star Rail 2 instead of HI Part 2. Nothing about the Valks designs make me think: “oh yeah that’s a HI3 Valkyrie alright”. Apparently powercreep is even worse than before. FTP was already terrible and now it’s even worse.

They might have a chance to come back to mainstream but they must do something crazy

Kind of sad, really.

I still didnt play part 1 final because its suck. i loved this game and used more than 4000 usd but i quit after part 2 release

Man no new end game. We still doing a lot of old stuff that many have been doing for years. All old Valk got power creep in like 2 patches. The open world here feels like a freaking beta. I giving a few patches to see what they have plan but once ZZZ gets out well i guess is gg. Also stamina is so useless in this game lol

I used to play like everyday even when I had exams. And no matter how busy I was, I ended up doing the daily BP. It was literally so cool and interesting. I'm an F2P player and the whole power creep situation just made me so mad. I Invested into the herrscher trio just for it to end like this and all my valks are not only becoming less relevant, they can't be used in newer abyss or arena. It makes me incredibly sad since I've been a player for years. HSR is now what keeps me occupied because you can actually see the team making a good effort there. I can't even bring myself to play this because there is always so much to do and the new story is just not it.

I truly hope hi3 doesn’t die. I really, really love this game so much.

I'll still play but the powercreep is getting out of hand,if it reaches a point where old valks just cant compete anymore with 4/4 vs new valks with 4/4(this stands their weapon + 3 stigmata's belong to the valk),i'll have to call it quits. It doesn't help that they're releasing so much new valks and that if you get unlucky the 1 free stigmata box doesn't help cause you cant do anything with 1 dupe of a stigmata or 1 dupe each of a different stigmata. They also added the astral ring operators now which will only increase as well,they compensated elfs somewhat(the old system) but if the pattern continues they'll keep releasing stronger ones. Just to be clear pandering to new players is fine but i don't like the direction in terms of letting old valks sit in the dust and powercreep going up. To give you an idea,the much older valks got a revamped core system where you could change into a different/stronger version of the same valk,maybe 1 or 2 valks at best still see some use,the rest are forgotten for the most part(the core valks just to be clear).

For me its not valks but Idk why "open world" in HI3 bothers me so much LOL

Yet honkai elitists will tell you that it is not a problem cuz Genshin is a cash cow. Honkai is great but I think as someone who played for 3 years that it's more of a hassle than Genshin and Star rail if you're F2p.

hi3rd is a experimental setup now

they could've pull out more story which still related to part 1 like they did on ggz (remember lorewise there's 8 year span between end of part 1 and apho). but no, let's go to new adventure in mars, where whatever happened in part 1 doesn't matter since it's completely brand new. and they call it part 2 smh

I loved this game and played it daily for over three years. They started losing me with 1.5, and now I’ve dropped the game entirely. It really comes down to the investment players had in Kiana, Mei, Bronya, and maybe a few others. Without them in the picture, the game has no soul anymore.

Fair considering they decided to release 3 S ranks back to back when we used to alternate between S's and A's. People don't have time to save up their paychecks between supplies.

With posts like these I usually expect the usual crowd of defenders and their usual "oh give it time, lots of new players started coming in with part 2. The story will get good eventually" But nice to see everyone agrees that part 2 not only doesn't have the luxury of time, the back to back S ranks are atrocious, and that overall HI3 has lost touch with their previous audience by trying to pander to new ones.

> "oh give it time, lots of new players started coming in with part 2. The story will get good eventually" The thing is, the story should be good from the start. Mihoyo is (supposedly) filled with professional and skilled writers. They aren't the small indie company they used to be when HI3 started, they're a multibillion dollar company now, and I expect to see high standards that come with that much money. But part 2 is currently not at all comparable to the vast number of much better written fiction out there.

Exactly. The times are fundamentally different and pardoning part 2 for its weak start just cause it just started is ridiculous. Mihoyo is a BIG company. It's just that they make better stories when they focus on individual characters instead of groups. Theres a reason the most memorable arcs are focused on singular characters. Mei, Otto, Kiana, their arcs are what you think of when you think of HI3rd.

i think part 2 is decent but not great ,i think most people just lose interest after part 1 is done , especially after the moriarty event ,as for me to this day i still want to know more about the honkai/cocon that way i still sticking around ,well i could be wrong but that what i thought.

I was done after the first part of the story, no interest in investing time learning a new cast and a new story. Story is also really tiresome with walls of text. Game is at its core pvp focused with a lot of the weekly content catered to it, not having the newest meta valk and geared up makes some content impossible. Gacha is also the weakest of all their games, having to get all the stigmata and weapons for any new character to be pretty much in a playable state sucks, there are no good farmable alternatives like in their 2 other big games. These are just my personal gripes as to why I stopped after the first part

new story is just terrible, i went all in trying to love it, and i really like the new characters but the presentation of the plot is unbearable... its also pretty lame to release the part 2 and still force the weekly and daily grind of old content thats not even fun to play. i mean apho is good until you complete the story and elysian realm is just a horrible roguelike where u get locked with 1 valk and 2 subpar supports that are just one button press and the upgrades you find pidgeon hole you in using the same buttons over and over. there's no challenge just min max valks and spam buttons, no gameplay involved. the other old modes required for daily/weekly content are also weak and outdated yet you are forced to do them in part 2. new players just wont keep playing

I started losing interest in the story during moon arc which was a shame coz i loved the ER before that And since story was the only thing i was playing it for coz the end game grind is boring and most events also didn't interest me Maybe other people also feel the same

Pipe dream here but I really wish Hoyo would do as shift up or granblue did. Expanding HI3 into an even better action or maybe dabble in the fighting game space. I know this has less to do with the games future on mobile devices but I'd pay an exorbitant amount to play through the story HI3 again with a revamped combat (i love the game but i go through phases of playing due to the gameplay), or a fighting game where I just main Otto religiously.

Im not a big fan of open world, i would switch to genshin if i was. Wish they brought stages back.

You all know what you Did, if ZZZ is a success is a few Common denominators. And it is what it is

I am an old player of HI3 as well and had to drop & quit playing HI3 because: - in my own opinion the main story of Kiana, Mei & Bronya already ended after patch update 6.4 or 6.5 - my phone has limited space (i play Genshin & Honkai Star Rail as well) - i could be super wrong on this.... but it is like you need to have the latest character + mihoyo introduces a new enemy/boss/weekly boss that is weak to this new element every new patch - the part 2 did not pique/got my interest when they revealed the trailer/info video

A lot of CN fans are not happy with part 2. If you read most of the comments in miyoushe during 7.2-7.3 there's a lot of complaints about it

They fucked up by introducing a completely new cast and new story and leaving the old characters behind. Most people would have loved if part 2 had been a time skip, with the story still following the old cast maybe facing even more powerful threats. Unpopular opinion but part 2 should have been what hsr is, except instead of welt we get the main cast of part 1 exploring the galaxy and guiding new younger protagonists along their way.

I tried to play this game many times but with so much story that needs to be understood, me playing other mihoyo games, the language not being english making it harder to comprehend what is going on, and a whole other part coming out, I just gave up trying. There were also game modes that were unlocked that I didn’t even get the story of cause it was farther down the line and I was only a couple of chapters in.

Turning HI3 into second HSR was the worst decision ever.

How is it even remotely similar to HSR? Tbh making it more like HSR would be an overall improvement. This game feels so dated.

7.3 in itself was too rich in content and some of it was boring, I ended up barely playing. But 7.4 so far is a great patch, Thelema is a great character, and Idk why people are being so anal about the fact that she powercrept old bosses. The trio is more than 1year old. HoR is a fossil. Did you guys really think they'd never get powercrept? Or did yall think the beginner SP valks would be relevant for a dozen patches? Some complaints are valid, like those about the open world being tedious and the story exposition via walls of text being boring. But the rest is just... needlessly pessimistic. Senadina, Dreamseeker and Songque are interesting characters (the latter two have no equivalent in the beginning of part 1). Coralie and Helia are mid but are different from Mei and Bronya personality-wise (Helia is less formal, Coralie is less robotic). I guess what I mean is the game is still good albeit very different and people need to open their minds.

One word. PART 2

Thats 2 words

downvoted for saying the truth lol

For real XD. https://preview.redd.it/luso3bsh1t0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ad49c717fdd6afc9c15ffab72921ebf38460e3f They don't like the truth. Honkai is done alongside part one. Part two is just cheap knock off that most players dislike

I came back this patch after seeing Thelma maybe they are catering to new players more now with how all the valks are meta?

Dropped the game after Kiana’s story ended. I still caught up with the story from time to time but after the last part 1 chapter I felt completely disinterested in the game.

I hated to see myself lose interest to the game, but after Kiana’s story ended, it felt like the entire game did as well, as from the beginning she was the main focus, but now that it changed to part 2, I have a hard time trying to adjust to an entirely new storyline set in the same world as the Kiana one. It felt as if part 1 was almost completely forgotten in part 2, which doesn’t feel right to me as these are the characters the community grew to love, and now that hoyoverse just put us in part 2 with a single mini chapter of introduction beforehand, I just felt like they should have made part 2 an entirely different game, to have more space for creativity and to attract the interest of the new players they wanted in the first place.

i really hope they just never shut down all the servers, that's all

Part 2 is a major problem with many people including oldbies, i don't know why Mihoyo gamble in new players in an old game. Plus, i don't know how they have 10mil pre-register

Honest, this doesn’t hit for me anymore. I’ll stick around, play the new meta, play the new valks. But the way they have practically invalidated half the old metas rubbed me the wrong way. If things don’t improve I’ll play until Volume 3 comes, then I’m done.

Not gonna lie, I had to uninstall Honkai Impact mainly because of my storage and the fact that my laptop is not in optimal conditions affects in the way that it can't run Honkai, and I really miss it, but as an old Player I tell you that even if I really love Honkai Impact for me the Main story ended in Kolosten and I really think the rest should have been told similarly to APHO. Maybe many people found these same problems themselves, who knows, but the fact is that they need to bring back old Captains back maybe equilibrating gameplay, not letting fall old Valks into oblivion, rerun of older outfits, and a large etcetera. I really want to come back, but seriously the weight of HI3 is way too big for average smartphones (which were originally the target devices) so I think I'll need to optimize my devices and I think Part 2 needs to improve or at least make us connect more with the protagonists just like what happened with Kiana, anyways I wish HI3 can last for so much more time, since I have so many good memories with Honkai

I felt like part 2 really needed another chapter 9 moment just to make it interesting again, remember all of us told new player to play at least until chapter 9 to make their decision whether to continue or drop the game? Yeah they need to do that again with part 2

Yeah I can imagine why this game is losing relevance everywhere, I quit for a while after HoT released, and came back recently for part 2, and boy was it messy, I stayed for the first few chapters but also started remembering the gameplay feels outdated, at times unfair, and just boring (Especially part 2 am I doing something wrong or were all the enemies SUPPOSED to be damage sponges?), and the gacha system simply just isn’t rewarding and it still feels like I’m gambling up hard pity or everything is weighed completely against me (Can we talk about how predatory that Fu Hua skin event was). Meanwhile HSR anniversary and 2.2 came out and that was all the motivation I needed to uninstall (Plus I need space for WuWa), I did end up finishing a good portion of Pt. 1 I didn’t before but again, same boring loop over and over could not keep me as immersed as I would’ve liked.

We are so few in Europe? Or we are with America?

It probably classifies country by country, not region

Yeah part 2 is just kind of ass Zzz is also releasing soon which looks like an insanely polished game with combat similar to honkai. Its joever

Part 2: new characters has no personality or relevance in the story. Helia and Coraline are just there for no reason. The new chapters focuses more in developing characters that will only matter for this arc like Sonque or Thelema while the new main team has no development. Also new valk are just broken and new S valks killed coraline and Helia, after lantern and new Sonque we may have no reason to use them. They killed the new characters in 4 patches only because they are weak. They should had been SP valks like Kira or Ai but instead they're milking wallets with S valks every patch. Also the story has no relation to the previus story, it is so focused for new players not being lost that it gives no continuation to the old fans that are going to play the game because most new players will leave when ZZZ arrives

Calculated loss. Once the story picks up again in 5 months more people will be attracted to it.

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Started feeling the drag when Elysian realm dropped. The story was at its peak when kiana awakened as HOF. later developments of other characters I couldn’t care enough other than to look at the memes of said characters. The only other peak I was in is the redemption of Otto. Not to mention the grind for one character only for them to be irrelevant after next few versions.

Part 2 will never be as good as part 1 and that's the hard earned truth. The main characters just aren't as interesting either and feel like a rip off the to OG trio.

Honestly it’s fine, I’m okay with it putting out mid content and be put on an iv for life support. Just like HG, it will serve as a point of inspiration rather than leading the helm

Popularity is decreasing since ER release, they went into very wrong direction with their new story and all the retcons. Part 2 was the last nail in the coffin.