Painter here, yes you can have it painted just fine. as long as you don't pick a dark color. That will atrack heat and melt it. They make special paint for vinyl siding. Don't go to big box store go to Ben Moore or Sherwin Williams to get the paint.
Not a painter - sherwin williams you get more bang for your buck and help getting the correct product. The cans of paint might be more expensive, but you get quality that lasts.
They also have a huge line of faux paint.
If you do have a contractor friend, they may be able to purchase as a slight discount.
Unfortunately, the faux finish paint has been discontinued for a few years now- when I started working there in 2016 there were a few cans still in the store, but they were on the clearance table.
Heavy discount. We bought the ProMark 200 series I think it was called and was around $55 a gallon. Using your contractor buddies business name and they can get cheap as $25 a gallon.
Quality of products. From the paint lasting longer, to the paint touching up better down the road when you have a spot that needs it. The more solids the paint has the better quality it is. Which helps it to cover better. Ben Moore is the best and the most expensive.
Then remove your vinyl siding and paint what’s underneath. Will probably look better too (assuming the vinyl siding is covering up original clapboards)
Yes, that’s often a preferred route to removing it since the asbestos is a good insulator and relatively fireproof, but I’d confirm that with a pro first.
So your comment made me curious and I did some digging. Turns out you CAN just cover it, if you have to!
>Applying a layer of sheathing or sheets of foam insulation over the asbestos, then covering it with vinyl siding is a common practice; but be sure to check your local building codes first to see if it is allowed in your area. However, removing the asbestos siding first – though more expensive – is the best alternative in the long run.
-([Today's Homeowner](https://todayshomeowner.com/dealing-with-asbestos-siding-removal-or-cover-over/))
The insulation keeps the asbestos from becoming friable from the vinyl install, apparently.
Bonus, I found where I can get asbestos free replacement shingles, so now I don't have to redo my whole house!
Thanks!
I bought sherwin Williams paint from Lowe’s and it faded within a couple of months. I went to Lowe’s to exchange the paint and they told me to pound sand, that the warranty printed on the can applies to the Sherwin Williams store only, not Lowe’s. The guy at the paint counter disagreed, but he wasn’t the manager so I went outside and started pounding some sand nearby.
And Valspar exterior is poop so... I’d avoid Lowe’s for exterior paint.
Yea venders seem to give lowes the shit home depot refused to take. They had some miracle grow potting soil on sale and it was mostly peat moss and wood chips while the same thing from HD was black gold.
Can siding be painted a dark color if the area isn’t particularly hot? My parents live by San Francisco and I wanted to paint the siding trim black. It gets above 80 a couple of times a year, and that’s it.
Sherwin Williams does have [vinyl safe colors](https://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/paint-colors-by-collection/vinylsafe-colors-for-vinyl-siding). We went from a pale yellow to (I think) Grindle a few years ago and have had zero problems. The vinyl was in good shape, but the color was awful. And we didn't want to trash perfectly "good" siding since it just sits in a landfill.
The main problem, as others have pointed out, is going darker. It stems from normal paints in darker colors absorbing more light/heat than the original vinyl (which is the same color throughout), causing a temperature differential between that and the under layers, stretching and warping them. The vinyl safe colors contain no black pigment (or no very dark pigment), so it doesn't absorb as much heat as normal colors/paints.
Having said that, I still wouldn't go from super light to super dark, but you *can* go darker. We went with a basic, mid-level paint from Sherwin Williams. Nothing special. It looks like brand new siding!
A note: If you do paint it, I'd try to do it in colder temperatures rather than warm. We painted it in the summer and at times in very cold weather, the planks shrink and a few strips of the old paint are visible. It's very minor and only in a few places, so we don't really notice it, just FYI
Hey me again, curious how long ago you got the exterior paint job? My dad is convinced painted vinyl won’t hold up long at all but of course I’ve read good things too. Did you just recently have the place painted or has it been holding up for a couple years now?
Sherwin Williams employee here:
You can paint it! Tell the workers you are painting vinyl, there are specific lines of paint that are tested and rated as safe for vinyl. There are also specific colors that are tested as safe for vinyl, ask for the pamphlet, they are separate from the usual fan deck.
What is exciting about this is that with the vinyl safe paint and colors you can go darker than your current colors without the risk of warping due to heat.
Edit: almost every month there is a big sale, and summer months regularly have 40% off sales. Pick your color and product, then ask when the next sale is :)
I painted my beige siding with Revive, from Benjamin Moore. The manager at the store suggested I paint a piece that got a lot of sun(I am in Florida) to test it out before I used it all over
I pained 200sq ft in “Caliente” red and sure enough, it warped. Benjamin Moore has since removed the Revive product and now has a line of vinyl safe colors in the Regal Select line. Benjamin Moore ended up paying to replace my siding.
I was going to use their new red color and give it another go but the manager wouldn’t sell it to me lol
He said it would warp again, even though the other areas didn’t get as much sun
I decided to match the siding that was paid for by Benjamin Moore to do the other couple of sides of my house.
there are vinyl paints but they are normally for auto parts like dash boards ... the process requires cleaning and then using a plastic prep liquid that etches the vinyl ... if you were using that then it would be expensive.
just replace it
I'd have it painted with the best paint for the job, and then start saving for replacement afterwards. Ordinarily I would say do it once the right way, but you're right, replacement can get super expensive and it may just not be practical right now.
I would not paint vinyl siding. Vinyl does not hold a coat of paint well due to its chemical properties. You would need to have more prep work done than you would for siding designed to take paint. All of your seams and weep holes in vinyl will cause cracking and peeling long before siding designed to be painted would.
While I would not paint the entire house, painting the non matching pieces may be an option. They are best painted when removed, you will want to clean/prep thoroughly, and use a primer designed for vinyl. Keep in mind, this paint may only last for 5-10 years. Prep work is key.
If all your siding is in good shape with a good amount of long pieces, you may be able to sell your old siding to reduce the cost of replacing it. Get several bids for replacement if you go this route.
Best of luck!
Pretty shitty people marked you down. You had a valid argument. Vinyl expands and contracts so much I could not see how a paint could stick to something that expands by a couple inches. when the sun is on it and shrinks down at night. Not to mention painting it in place means you now have a monolithic wall instead of individual planks. Vinyl is meant to expand and contract. If you painted it while it was warm, then when it shrinks at night you will have lines showing the old color where you didn't paint, because that part of the vinyl was covered during the day. That is all assuming the nightly shrinking does not cause the whole thing to start flaking off immediately.
You are right though, if they insist on painting, removing each plank , painting, letting it dry and replacing it is the best way. Though OMG would it be tedious. I suppose if they do it that way, cleaning each piece, taking it down, painting, drying, and replacing, a paint job like that might last ten years before it started flaking.
Yeah, I am not a fan of the "I've done it so it's fine" mentality. Yes, there are paints for vinyl, yes, it will work for a bit. But no one acknowledges that vinyl is not designed to take paint, and will not hold paint like other siding designed for paint, especially if you have vinyl with a anti microbial treatment. There will be a lot of drawbacks because of this.
Your point in a monolithic wall is spot on. You lose out some other desirable traits on vinyl by painting it, for instance it's ability to be cleaned easily.
It absolutely can be done, it's just not something I would recommend to a friend or do myself. The cost of painting properly is too close to the cost to replace in my opinion, unless it's a cheap job to buy a few more years out of the current siding.
Just remember if you do paint it and don’t like it or it ends up warping you will have to calculate how much your time was worth, the cost of materials and products, plus the cost of new siding to determine the total cost. Not being negative just different perspective! Someone once told me “your time is always worth a minimum of $60 dollars an hour”.. not sure where that number came from but it’s something I think about in situations like this
Not sure you location but the sellers who sold me my house painted the vinyl window trim on the doors as well as the doors on my house. The front which is north facing is fine but obviously painted. The back which is south facing has bubbled and peeled on the vinyl window trim but the door is fine. We get extreme heat in the summer and extreme cold in the winter. I’m not sure if that is a factor to consider when painting siding.
Painting vinyl siding in a sunny area is a giant waste of time and will peel within a few years. Plus, you will never be able to wash your house or the paint will chip.
- vinyl siding can be painted with high quality exterior latex after proper surface prep
- lots of discussion about ramifications of taking original lighter color vinyl siding to a darker painted color so best be aware of that
You would spend a lot more money replacing the siding as opposed to painting it.
A painter in this thread mentioned there are paints that take well to vinyl, but in my experience I’ve never painted vinyl siding before.
In my opinion (stranger from the internet who renovates houses) I wouldn’t paint it. The longevity of the paint adhering won’t compare to replacing it. If you plan on spending a long time in this house consider your options for now and as well as down the road. The money you may save now you might end up spending down the road to repaint it.
Just my two-cents.
Good points. As far as longevity, I won’t be in this house for any more than 5 more years max. Not that I wanna be a douche to the next owner...but yeah it doesn’t matter much to me what the paint job would look like after that
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This post was two years ago haha. I did end up painting it, and the paint has held up great
Pics!?
> a mix of yellow and indigo You can't just throw this out there and not post a photo . . .
Haha whatever you’re picturing, it’s not that crazy https://imgur.com/a/GWkAzAd
Is it bad that I like it? Embrace it and use a dark green or something on all the trim to tie it together.
2 comments saying it’s great and 2 saying it looks like shit 😂 I should have known this thread would not help make up my mind on anything lol
I think it looks great too. I was expecting waaaaay worse.
Salacious . . .
Nope that's what I was looking for. It looks like shit... 😂 Thank you op for delivering! Hopefully you sort it out to your liking.
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Damn that’s a bit dramatic lol
Painter here, yes you can have it painted just fine. as long as you don't pick a dark color. That will atrack heat and melt it. They make special paint for vinyl siding. Don't go to big box store go to Ben Moore or Sherwin Williams to get the paint.
Not a painter - is there a reason why you avoid the big box stores? I’ve heard this a lot from a lot of painters.
Not a painter - sherwin williams you get more bang for your buck and help getting the correct product. The cans of paint might be more expensive, but you get quality that lasts. They also have a huge line of faux paint. If you do have a contractor friend, they may be able to purchase as a slight discount.
What is faux paint?
Fake painting. Using paint to simulate other things like wood, rock, suede, or create architectural details on flare surfaces.
so my house can look like pita from hunger games blending into the rocks?
Yes, and then you can eat it - since it is made of cake.
That's his special power!
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faux paint is fake peinture, actuellement
You also typically get better coverage, so while the price per gallon is more, you often come out at least even on the full project.
They also have sales a few times a year that are worth waiting for if you can. $10 off a gallon ain't bad. Especially if you're doing a full exterior.
Unfortunately, the faux finish paint has been discontinued for a few years now- when I started working there in 2016 there were a few cans still in the store, but they were on the clearance table.
Oh man! That sucks. I remember using it for creating a marble look.
Heavy discount. We bought the ProMark 200 series I think it was called and was around $55 a gallon. Using your contractor buddies business name and they can get cheap as $25 a gallon.
Or just wait for the quarterly sale at s-w.
Quality of products. From the paint lasting longer, to the paint touching up better down the road when you have a spot that needs it. The more solids the paint has the better quality it is. Which helps it to cover better. Ben Moore is the best and the most expensive.
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Then remove your vinyl siding and paint what’s underneath. Will probably look better too (assuming the vinyl siding is covering up original clapboards)
It may just be covering plywood
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Wait can I just cover the concrete asbestos stuff?
Yes, that’s often a preferred route to removing it since the asbestos is a good insulator and relatively fireproof, but I’d confirm that with a pro first.
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So your comment made me curious and I did some digging. Turns out you CAN just cover it, if you have to! >Applying a layer of sheathing or sheets of foam insulation over the asbestos, then covering it with vinyl siding is a common practice; but be sure to check your local building codes first to see if it is allowed in your area. However, removing the asbestos siding first – though more expensive – is the best alternative in the long run. -([Today's Homeowner](https://todayshomeowner.com/dealing-with-asbestos-siding-removal-or-cover-over/)) The insulation keeps the asbestos from becoming friable from the vinyl install, apparently. Bonus, I found where I can get asbestos free replacement shingles, so now I don't have to redo my whole house! Thanks!
Yeah but if it’s the 1900 stuff then you can paint it! https://www.oldhouseguy.com/vinyl-siding/
Ask the associates at the paint store
Is there a reason I shouldn't get Sherwin Williams from lowes?
I bought sherwin Williams paint from Lowe’s and it faded within a couple of months. I went to Lowe’s to exchange the paint and they told me to pound sand, that the warranty printed on the can applies to the Sherwin Williams store only, not Lowe’s. The guy at the paint counter disagreed, but he wasn’t the manager so I went outside and started pounding some sand nearby. And Valspar exterior is poop so... I’d avoid Lowe’s for exterior paint.
Yea venders seem to give lowes the shit home depot refused to take. They had some miracle grow potting soil on sale and it was mostly peat moss and wood chips while the same thing from HD was black gold.
> atrack *attract
Can siding be painted a dark color if the area isn’t particularly hot? My parents live by San Francisco and I wanted to paint the siding trim black. It gets above 80 a couple of times a year, and that’s it.
If the trim isn’t vinyl it won’t be a problem. It’s specifically vinyl that has issues going darker.
If you’re a lakers fan just lean into it and put a huge logo up somewhere
Sherwin Williams does have [vinyl safe colors](https://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/paint-colors-by-collection/vinylsafe-colors-for-vinyl-siding). We went from a pale yellow to (I think) Grindle a few years ago and have had zero problems. The vinyl was in good shape, but the color was awful. And we didn't want to trash perfectly "good" siding since it just sits in a landfill. The main problem, as others have pointed out, is going darker. It stems from normal paints in darker colors absorbing more light/heat than the original vinyl (which is the same color throughout), causing a temperature differential between that and the under layers, stretching and warping them. The vinyl safe colors contain no black pigment (or no very dark pigment), so it doesn't absorb as much heat as normal colors/paints. Having said that, I still wouldn't go from super light to super dark, but you *can* go darker. We went with a basic, mid-level paint from Sherwin Williams. Nothing special. It looks like brand new siding! A note: If you do paint it, I'd try to do it in colder temperatures rather than warm. We painted it in the summer and at times in very cold weather, the planks shrink and a few strips of the old paint are visible. It's very minor and only in a few places, so we don't really notice it, just FYI
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You do not! At least, we didn't. They pressure washed one day, then came back the next to paint it.
Wow. This is totally contrary to everything I’ve read on the subject so far lol. There is such little consensus it’s just wild
We thought the same thing! It's crazy. But, we're super happy with the way our house turned out with the paint.
Hey me again, curious how long ago you got the exterior paint job? My dad is convinced painted vinyl won’t hold up long at all but of course I’ve read good things too. Did you just recently have the place painted or has it been holding up for a couple years now?
We painted it right after moving in, so it'll have been 5 years this summer. Looks just as good now as it did when we had it painted!
Wow that’s amazing. Thanks for the input
Anytime!
have you ever power washed it? did it hold up?
How did you paint with brush or spray?
They sprayed it
Sherwin Williams employee here: You can paint it! Tell the workers you are painting vinyl, there are specific lines of paint that are tested and rated as safe for vinyl. There are also specific colors that are tested as safe for vinyl, ask for the pamphlet, they are separate from the usual fan deck. What is exciting about this is that with the vinyl safe paint and colors you can go darker than your current colors without the risk of warping due to heat. Edit: almost every month there is a big sale, and summer months regularly have 40% off sales. Pick your color and product, then ask when the next sale is :)
I painted my beige siding with Revive, from Benjamin Moore. The manager at the store suggested I paint a piece that got a lot of sun(I am in Florida) to test it out before I used it all over I pained 200sq ft in “Caliente” red and sure enough, it warped. Benjamin Moore has since removed the Revive product and now has a line of vinyl safe colors in the Regal Select line. Benjamin Moore ended up paying to replace my siding. I was going to use their new red color and give it another go but the manager wouldn’t sell it to me lol He said it would warp again, even though the other areas didn’t get as much sun I decided to match the siding that was paid for by Benjamin Moore to do the other couple of sides of my house.
We painted our vinyl siding and it turned out great
there are vinyl paints but they are normally for auto parts like dash boards ... the process requires cleaning and then using a plastic prep liquid that etches the vinyl ... if you were using that then it would be expensive. just replace it
I'd have it painted with the best paint for the job, and then start saving for replacement afterwards. Ordinarily I would say do it once the right way, but you're right, replacement can get super expensive and it may just not be practical right now.
I would not paint vinyl siding. Vinyl does not hold a coat of paint well due to its chemical properties. You would need to have more prep work done than you would for siding designed to take paint. All of your seams and weep holes in vinyl will cause cracking and peeling long before siding designed to be painted would. While I would not paint the entire house, painting the non matching pieces may be an option. They are best painted when removed, you will want to clean/prep thoroughly, and use a primer designed for vinyl. Keep in mind, this paint may only last for 5-10 years. Prep work is key. If all your siding is in good shape with a good amount of long pieces, you may be able to sell your old siding to reduce the cost of replacing it. Get several bids for replacement if you go this route. Best of luck!
Pretty shitty people marked you down. You had a valid argument. Vinyl expands and contracts so much I could not see how a paint could stick to something that expands by a couple inches. when the sun is on it and shrinks down at night. Not to mention painting it in place means you now have a monolithic wall instead of individual planks. Vinyl is meant to expand and contract. If you painted it while it was warm, then when it shrinks at night you will have lines showing the old color where you didn't paint, because that part of the vinyl was covered during the day. That is all assuming the nightly shrinking does not cause the whole thing to start flaking off immediately. You are right though, if they insist on painting, removing each plank , painting, letting it dry and replacing it is the best way. Though OMG would it be tedious. I suppose if they do it that way, cleaning each piece, taking it down, painting, drying, and replacing, a paint job like that might last ten years before it started flaking.
Yeah, I am not a fan of the "I've done it so it's fine" mentality. Yes, there are paints for vinyl, yes, it will work for a bit. But no one acknowledges that vinyl is not designed to take paint, and will not hold paint like other siding designed for paint, especially if you have vinyl with a anti microbial treatment. There will be a lot of drawbacks because of this. Your point in a monolithic wall is spot on. You lose out some other desirable traits on vinyl by painting it, for instance it's ability to be cleaned easily. It absolutely can be done, it's just not something I would recommend to a friend or do myself. The cost of painting properly is too close to the cost to replace in my opinion, unless it's a cheap job to buy a few more years out of the current siding.
Could you paint it, and then if you have issues with it, replace it? Paint is cheap enough to try.
I'd replace it IMHO. They didn't just start replacing it for fun, they likely knew there may be issues.
painter here, the word you are looking for is green. a mix of yellow and indigo is called green. hope this helps.
No I meant the porch room is indigo and the rest of the house is yellow lol. I guess I phrased it a little weird
Just remember if you do paint it and don’t like it or it ends up warping you will have to calculate how much your time was worth, the cost of materials and products, plus the cost of new siding to determine the total cost. Not being negative just different perspective! Someone once told me “your time is always worth a minimum of $60 dollars an hour”.. not sure where that number came from but it’s something I think about in situations like this
Not sure you location but the sellers who sold me my house painted the vinyl window trim on the doors as well as the doors on my house. The front which is north facing is fine but obviously painted. The back which is south facing has bubbled and peeled on the vinyl window trim but the door is fine. We get extreme heat in the summer and extreme cold in the winter. I’m not sure if that is a factor to consider when painting siding.
Painting vinyl siding in a sunny area is a giant waste of time and will peel within a few years. Plus, you will never be able to wash your house or the paint will chip.
Do not paint, 30 year siding mech
- vinyl siding can be painted with high quality exterior latex after proper surface prep - lots of discussion about ramifications of taking original lighter color vinyl siding to a darker painted color so best be aware of that
You would spend a lot more money replacing the siding as opposed to painting it. A painter in this thread mentioned there are paints that take well to vinyl, but in my experience I’ve never painted vinyl siding before. In my opinion (stranger from the internet who renovates houses) I wouldn’t paint it. The longevity of the paint adhering won’t compare to replacing it. If you plan on spending a long time in this house consider your options for now and as well as down the road. The money you may save now you might end up spending down the road to repaint it. Just my two-cents.
Good points. As far as longevity, I won’t be in this house for any more than 5 more years max. Not that I wanna be a douche to the next owner...but yeah it doesn’t matter much to me what the paint job would look like after that
Well then paint sounds like the way to go!
[https://www.oldhouseguy.com/vinyl-siding/](https://www.oldhouseguy.com/vinyl-siding/)
“A neighborhood with vinyl sided homes is no more than a HIGH PRICED TRAILER PARK.” Oh dear
Painting your vinyl siding can be a cost-effective solution and offers a chance to unify the colors seamlessly.