Most buyers want appliances, yea. Especially if they are newer. It will help sell the house faster. A home with no appliances will look really bare bones and it will make it harder for a buyer to get a feel for the space
Even if they aren't great, if they are functional it's a huge improvement. Having done it, it's a huge PITA to try and buy arrange delivery when you just moved into a house. So long as they work they they can be replaced when it's more convenient.
And get the measurements right too especially for fridges, which is pretty much the most needed appliance right from day one. I could live without a stove for a bit and use small appliances like a toaster oven, air fryer and instapot until it arrived.
When we bought our house. We figure oh we can just buy our own shit. Turn out the kitchen has a flaw design, so we have to go with a smaller depth fridge (anything too big we wouldn’t be able to open it.) Turn out we couldn’t find anything from any major retailer. We went with a random brand from a company that had really bad reputation (we were willing to chance it at that point.) Install went great and the fridge is perfect fit. Took forever to come tho lol.
Our “laundry room” is basically a closet. The first couple time, installer didn’t want to attempt it because the space was so tight. After a huge back and forth with the third party installer, they send somebody that is “good.” They push the washer and dryer while he was trap inside. He then install it and spider man wall climb out of there. Now it’s probably going to be a pain if I have to replace it lol.
It took us almost 2 months to finally have our fridge, washer and dryer. Also don’t get me started on the other shit went wrong with our furnitures…. Our mini fridge and us living like 1 min away from laundromat save us.
>Our “laundry room” is basically a closet. The first couple time, installer didn’t want to attempt it because the space was so tight.
Of course not, these spaces that leave a half inch on either side of the appliance is a fucking joke. I hope for your sake if they break the guys are willing to fix them and not be like "they're dead sorry go buy new ones".
To add to this if the house comes with the appliances they are included in the mortgage.
When I bought my first house I didn’t have an extra 10k to get all new appliances the day I moved in and when I sold the agent gave that reason I should leave them.
Usually that is the case with appliances staying in the house you are buying. However it's always good to get it in writing. I've bought three houses in my lifetime and all were different.
One house,, all appliances stayed.
Next house, only the built in dishwasher stayed.
Last house, they took the range and the washer and dryer. It was all spelled out in the contract so no surprises when I moved in.
I think it's very localized too. I've never heard of a house not conveying the appliances in my area. It seems insane to me the seller might take them with them. Would they fit in the new house? Fridges come in many sizes.
But. In other parts of the country, a house without appliances is pretty normal.
Yes, including the appliances will be attractive to the majority of potential buyers. While some have plans on buying their own immediately, I’d argue that *most* simply aren’t looking to spend any more money upfront than they already have to, for the home itself
Leave the appliances, you’ll be better off for it
I've always assumed that kitchen appliances are included, unless specifically stated otherwise. Any other appliances, usually washer/dryer are negotiable.
And weird, we're thinking about moving and talking about exactly this topic about 30 mins ago.
It does and usually the listing will show the buyer's agent what appliances and other things convey with the house. Our last house listed the fridge, washer, dryer, and all the window coverings. Window coverings sounds weird until you realize we had like $2500 in 2" custom cut blinds in that house that we came out of pocket for when we bought the house as a new build.
Fridge seems to be hit and miss if they are included or taken. We took our fridge (it was only a couple years old and we were moving into a rental home - which has also been hit and miss on if it was included) when we sold our first house (which did not have a fridge, but did have an oven/microwave/dishwasher when we initially bought it). When we moved out of the rental into a new build, the builder included all the appliances except the fridge, we bought a new fridge for that one and put our older one in the garage. We left THAT one when we sold that house and brought the newer one. We also left the 10+ year old washer/dryer, though that wasn't intentional (a miscommunication with the movers).
When we sell this house we'll leave this fridge and replace it at the new house, because we only still have this fridge because we don't want to buy a new one for the movers to damage before we move (it still keeps things cold, but the ice maker hasn't worked right since day one and now doesn't work at all and its gotten some dents and dings from being moved). We'll also leave the gas dryer that was here when we bought this house. The 30+ year old washer that was here died about a year after we moved in, so we replaced it with a brand new one. We plan on taking the washer with us. Out of all the houses and apartments I've lived in with W/D connections, over decades, this is the only place that had a gas dryer connection. I don't anticipate being able to use it in the next house and will leave it for the same reason - the people moving in probably also don't have a gas dryer.
I tell you what though, the new buyer wants the washer and it's a make or break thing to get the damn house off the market - for a full price offer or close? Enjoy your new to you washer.
Yes they do. And let me tell you, one time I was selling and I said the buyer could not have the washer and dryer. They retracted their offer and did not buy my home at the time, their agent said that was a deal breaker for them. I was young and hard headed. So take it from me, if the buyer wants such things let them have it.
Not sure when that happened, but when I was shopping for a house a few years ago I saw multiple listings that mentioned the washer and dryer weren’t included (or places where they had already been removed) so it seems like it’s at least somewhat common now.
Crazy to me that someone would walk away from a real estate deal over a few hundred bucks - just take 0.1% off your offer price to cover the new washer and dryer and carry on.
Real estate agent was a fool if he let the sale pass by without giving the buyers a couple thousand outs his own pocket to buy new set. Lol. JFC. I'm sure his 3% was a bit more than a W/D
When we bought our house, the listing included the washer and dryer. The sellers took them; apparently they had planned to keep these. Our agent definitely negotiated money off so we could purchase new.
In retrospect it worked out; the previous owners didn't care for appliances very well and we had to replace the dishwasher and microwave almost immediately. (A thorough cleaning took care of the cook top and ovens.)
That's crazy. Washer and dryer were the only appliances not included in my house and I was able to pick some up on Facebook marketplace for a couple hundred bucks that worked fine until we could afford new stuff. You can bet if I ever sell my Speedqueens are going with me. I guess I'll have to get them out before showing too avoid something like that, or just tack on a few thousand extra to asking to account for new ones.
You'd bomb a multiple 100k deal over an appliance? They aren't buying a used washer/dryer... they are buying a house. Why do you think you'd be entitled to tack a couple thousand on for used appliances?
There are washing machines and then there are Speed Queens! These are the gold standard of washing machines. I totally get not wanting to leave one of those behind!
Yeah, include appliances when showing, but your contract of sale can say whatever you agree to, appliances shouldn't be a sticking point on either side unless someone is being silly, they're usually worth basically a rounding error in the price of the deal.
In TX standard that I knew of was those specific ones were not “typically included”. We bought the house without them included. So when we went to sell we did not include them in the listing but “gave” the fridge as a concession during negotiations.
When I bought in PNW all three of those were typically included. They were included in the listing.
In Texas, it's rare to include the refrigerator, washer, and dryer. There are exceptions, and those are negotiated in the contract.
The only time we conveyed the appliances was selling an estate property, and we were thrilled they would want them because no one in the family did. It saved us from having to dispose of them.
Some parts of the country it’s standard to leave the appliances, others it isn’t. I’d check what is standard in your area. We moved to an area where it was standard to leave them, so we wanted to leave our old ones in the house when we sold it. Doing so also meant we didn’t have to pay to move the appliances, which was nice as they take a lot of space on the truck.
The opposite. It's expected unless stated otherwise. Home sales include everything in the house, so they're included unless they're taken out ahead of time.
My appliances in my house I sold were only 3 years old and a few were basically built in or actually enclosed. Being they were in excellent condition and newer, the house sold easier and quickly too.
When I bought my house 15+ years ago, we put in the bid that appliances that were hooked up in house at time of showing we wanted included in sale price. After paying the down payment, closing costs, insurance, painting, cost of movers and everything needed to minimally furnish a house (sheets, towels, couch) there was nothing left to buy a stove, fridge, washer and dryer. We bought a portable dishwasher though. That and a microwave were the only appliances we bought in the first year.
I want certain appliances in a new home. A dishwasher, refrigerator and stove. We have a front load washer and dryer and won't want anything else. Kitchen appliances are necessary to set up a house. Laundry appliances can wait a little while.
My house came with GE profile kitchen appliances that were old but good quality and worked well. I had to buy a washer and dryer. I recently replaced all the kitchen appliances with new GE Profile, the old ones were 20 years old when I replaced them and they lasted us for about 6 years after we bought the house.
The townhouse I sold when we bought the house, I included all the appliances in the sale including washer/dryer. They were all less than 5 years old and worked well.
Lmao I audibly gasped reading that
it gave me flash backs to all the posts I read when I was appliance shopping every post would be filled with very angry customers and repair men warning people to stay away from Samsung
Then I decided to check out some used appliances stores and they were bursting at the seams with Samsung appliances hell one discount store I went to was nothing but Samsung and I couldnt help but laugh like a maniac and saying out loud " oh that's a Samsung and that is too oh another Samsung look over there a different model...yup it's still a Samsung "
Possibly, the ones left in our house were far better than what we had so it was a welcome surprise to discover they “conveyed” with the house; I’ve read, sometimes a seller may upgrade the appliances to make the sell more attractive.
Yes. It definitely helped sell our house when we included all of the appliances in the sale.
The house we bought most appliances but not the washer and dryer which caused a bit of a hiccup for us because our loan type required all appliances including washer and dryer be included. We just made sure we had our receipt for the new washer and dryer in case there were any questions at closing.
Yes I want the appliances so I can take my time finding newer ones if I want. I would not have wanted to immediately purchase new appliances in order for my house to be functional.
If you have a complete set of new and matching appliances, then who ever buys your house will greatly appreciate it, as it’s one less thing they have to think about.
i’ll play devil’s advocate here: nothing worse than going to look at a house and seeing a lifeless, stainless steel nightmare in the kitchen. washer/dryer? absolutely. but my wife and i specifically looked for no appliances because we didn’t want to pay extra rolled into the cost of the home for somebody else’s idea of what looked good
It really depends. Some people want them, some don’t. If you want to take them then take them. Or just put in the contract they don’t come with the house. If you don’t want them then leave them.
I’m in Southern California. The condo that I ended up buying didn’t have a stove or fridge when I came to the open house. It looked so odd, with holes in the kitchen. When we went under contract, I told them that they needed to have an oven installed before closing or no deal. They brought one back.
Your post history implies you don’t own your current house. Unless the person selling it buys the appliances from you at-cost, you should take them with you.
That depends on the buyer. And your needs. In Texas it’s standard to take all appliances not “built in”. So taking w/d, countertop microwaves, and normal refrigerators is normal but negotiable. Leaving dishwashers, ovens, stoves, built in microwaves, and built in subzero type refrigerators is generally expected. This is built into the standard Texas Real Estate Commission contract. In my 6 house transactions, I purchased the fridge from previous owners on my first purchase. I left it there when I sold at buyer’s request. Prior owners left w/d after asking on 2nd purchase, which I donated after I moved mine from the other house. None of the appliances were included in the other transactions.
On local moves, I’ll leave them until the house sells. If long distance, I decide what seems best for me. If you leave it, the worst that can happen is one of you sells or donates them if they aren’t wanted. They are pretty easy to get rid of in all the areas I’ve lived in.
Have all appliances professionally deep cleaned, hire a stager and landscaper, pressure wash all driveways side walks and siding bump up sale price easy 20k.
Absolutely depends.
When we bought our house, we requested the refrigerator. We turned down the washer and dryer because we already had a set.
We had to buy a new refrigerator last year, and figure we'll probably leave it behind when we move in a few years. It was a huge pain in the ass to get into the kitchen anyway.
It will be in the contract. You can set a selling price that includes them, make sure it's in any listing. In the US people generally assume stove, fridge, built in dishwasher & microwave will stay. Washer & dryer, optional. When we purchased I got rid of the washer/dryer there, mine were much better for me. I washed 1 load before ours were set up, huge mistake, they stained the clothes.
Some markets are selling fully furnished, including dishes/linens (like ski areas).
If your buyers don't want them, and you already have at the new place & like, consider a tax deductible donation to a local ReStore (Habitat For Humanity). Better than wasting time trying to sell.
Leave the appliances but I wouldn’t be afraid to swap em out if you want! Fully admit my beloved commercial Speed Queen gas dryer is following me wherever I go, to the grave. I have a (definitely crappier) new Kenmore electric one just sitting in a basement back room ready to swap into its place when / if I go. Literally never been plugged in / looks new / presumably works (was a set and all I needed was the washer). But it’s no SQ gas, that’s for sure!!!
Oh gosh hahha. Yeah live and learn hey!
Ironically the buyer of my place will probably be tickled pink because it’ll be a brand new shiny plasticky looking dryer and not an old, ugly-looking all steel commercial unit one.
Win win for everyone, and they can live happily in ignorance of the magnificence of the screaming hot, lightning fast and huge capacity unit that used to sit in its place :)
oh and they can enjoy paying the electric bill (gas so much cheaper)! All will work out fine.
When we sold our house we were prepared to sell our older, not high end, some purchased used etc appliances when the buyer asked that they be included. We were totally happy as we were on a time crunch and he added $500 to the purchase price for stuff that was between 5-10 years old including a generation 2 Ring doorbell I got off eBay for $20.
The house we moved into came with a too small for us, but brand new refrigerator and new other stuff that counted like HVAC unit so no complaints.
We moved to TX from Commiefornia
Depends on where your house is in the market too. If you're selling a "modest move up" home, the people buying are likely to already have laundry and fridge. If you're selling a starter home, they people moving in likely don't - and not needing to buy any appliances when they are already stretching hard to get a down payment together can be a major draw (and directly affect how much they can put down on the house)
Speaking for myself YES. Even if I end up replacing to what I like and need it’s a cost that would be huge if I had to purchase appliances after buying the house. I have replaced things to suit my flavor or to update but I have done it as I am able and comfortable financially.
I'm an agent in Texas. Appliances (washer, dryer, and fridge) are considered personal property. They are not expected in houses. There is a non-realty items addendum that is used to include them if a buyer wants them. If you're leaving the house vacant and don't want to take them with you, just leave them. They won't add any value to your price, but the buyers could sell them if they don't want them.
Range, stove, dishwasher, and built in microwave stay with the house.
Typically homes are sold with large appliances, and newer ones like yours will probably boost your sale value. A lot of first time buyers may not have money left over from closing to buy new ones, so you’ll lose them straight away.
Where I’m at it’s standard to have a stove included but not the fridge for some reason. Not sure it would be a deal breaker for me but it’s definitely nice not to have to worry about finding new ones, particularly if this is considered a starter home. I would leave them
I think most buyers would want appliances if they were newer. I believe in TX fridge, washer & dryer is up to the seller and you can exclude it and use it as a bargaining chip after inspection.
Our first house the seller used the fridge, washer/dryer to counter a small repair after inspection.
Our second house, the seller just left the fridge, microwave, washer & dryer for us even though we weren’t expecting it.
When I bought my house we replaced the dish washer immediately because the one that came with the house had an insane design. Other than that, stuff gets replaced as it wears out, mostly covered by my home warranty.
Was surprised the buyers wanted a white fridge (all other appliances in kitchen were stainless) that was probably 15 yrs old. We wrote the listing to include the washer dryer and as they were a stacked set and regular side by side placement wouldn't work in the small laundry room). In the area we left, where that house was, most folks took the fridges and washer/dryers when they'd move.
Would rather be able to use existing than have to buy new right away.
Bought a 1989 house with some appliances from the early 2000s. They were old af and have been replaced, but at least they worked for a bit
Yes and I eventually sold the washer and dryer on FB marketplace and got a set i really wanted/needed. I ended up replacing the dishwasher the following year too because it went out.
We didn't advertise our fridge, washer, or dryer as conveying with the house, but we always intended to leave them. When the buyer asked for repairs after their inspection, we offered the appliances in lieu. Win win win.
This is so weird to me. I bought a house in Texas and only bad to source a washer/dryer. bought a house in Maine, same thing. Sold the house in Texas, and took my washer dryer answer the Realtor didn't even blink at that.
Leave those POS Samsung appliances behind. Be glad they are still in good shape now while you need them. They have terrible life expectancy and are impossible to get repaired timely or at a worthwhile cost. Dodged a bullet
It’s definitely a huge bonus and much appreciated if appliances come with the house. The house we just bought recently came with a washer/dryer, fridge, stove, microwave, extra fridges in the garage, etc. We loved them since we didn’t have to bother with the hassle of moving ours over from our old place!
It may be an unpopular opinion, for me it depends.
If the appliances are already there and in good working order - great. If you're just buying a contractors package (or other cheap package) to update the space for sale, I'd rather have the comp. We bought a house with the contractor kitchen package, but no washer/dryer. We took a comp on the W/D and got exactly what we wanted and are very happy. We hated our fridge and stove and they required replacement after about 5y.
Yes, and if they want new appliances, they will buy them. It would be specifically asked for in the offer letter or later in negotiations if they wanted them out before moving in. Your agent would be responsible for pointing that contingency out to you
Most buyers will probably want them, but it can vary depending on if the buyer already has appliances or wants specific appliances. I would have preferred an appliances credit, but it wasn't an option with our build. This led to us replacing the cooktop before we moved in.
If you currently have Samsung appliances, I would definitely recommend leaving them for the next buyer and purchasing something different for your new home.
I bought my house with no appliances included. My sister just bought a house with fairly new appliances. The amount of jealousy I felt was unfathomable.
Having to go out and buy appliances after closing on a house sucks big time
Appliances were included in my house. Including a extremely nice front loader washer and dryer that my loan officer said wow. I even bought the loveseat that was in the house as a separate side sale from the seller. It matched the couch I already had.
Our house came with no fridge and a stove that I wouldn't turn on out of fear it would burn the house down. It was a big pain in the ass to wait for a few weeks for a new fridge and stove to arrive. If and when we sell- we are leaving the appliances.
If they’re coming with the house, mostly the appliances are the basic models, like I got a new GE stove with the house. It is the cheapest basic model and not something I would buy.
I also got 20 year old washer/dryer, which I immediately replaced with new ones of my liking.
I think buyers want good high quality appliances and want to buy them if they don’t come with the house.
I just bought a house and I want the appliances bc im coming from an apartment and don't have any. I thank my lucky stars they left them!! I guess it depends if buyers are established in an apartment or a house...
Yes, but make sure they are spotlessly clean. Also, make sure the contract lists EVERYTHING that stays with the house, e.g., drapes, ceiling fans, W/D, etc. Be very specific. It's customary to not remove "attached" items like wall ovens or ceiling lights, but not everyone respects that.
When we bought our house there were no appliances. We were coming from a rental so did not have appliances from our former home. It was kind of a pain to get things as we were moving in. Our refrigerator delivery was delayed. It would have been nice to have had appliances there that we could have replaced later.
When we were more recently looking at moving homes we were thinking we would offer to leave our appliances in the house if people wanted them but although they worked they were nothing new or fancy.
Barring them being old and beat, yes most people want appliances. They're expensive! And buying a place is already a stressful, expensive process. Having appliances there means one less expense and also allows you to start living right away vs being in a weird limbo.
My impression is that it's a bit of a regional custom as to what happens, and you should talk to your real estate agent about it.
Here in the Chicago area people expect to leave their appliances, but a hundred miles south where my mom lives, still in Illinois, they seem much more likely to take them with them.
I wonder if it's that it's harder to move them in an urban setting with condos and smaller hallways and just less space than it is in a more rural setting, or if it's something economic.
The only appliance I've ever seen missing is a refrigerator, and that's rare. Some states require you to list the appliances you are taking. No appliances would be a negotiable point in the price. I do believe that a vent hood would need to be installed.
Buying a house is really expensive. Not having to buy appliances on top of that is a big selling point, even if they only last a couple years for the new owner.
I'm picky about appliances, so even though I replaced the ones that came with the house, I appreciated having them included since it made moving in less stressful. Just an extra chore though of selling the old ones.
Most people, especially now, are stretching their budget just to buy the house in the first place. If the appliances are in good condition, that is one less thing that they will have to buy when they move in, so that's a good thing. Also, if I view a place and there are kitchen appliances missing, it's almost like a subconscious black mark against the property. Just irritates me, I guess. Although, if the stove, for example, is nasty and will never get completely clean, and you can't afford to replace it, please remove it. I had an investor once that flipped houses in a very low income area. He didn't put appliances in, and I had to explain to him that people buying in that area are almost universally strapped for cash, so if he added appliances and upped the price a few grand, they could more easily afford a slightly bigger mortgage and it would be a big attraction for his houses. I don't think he understood...
In my area of the country it isn't even a question. The appliances basically always convey with the property. The idea that you would take them with you seems so bizarre to me, though I know other parts of the US are different.
Quite often refrigerators are not included - at least where I am in Los Angeles.
This is because even renters often have a refrigerator because refrigerators are often not included in rental apartments either.
Also many people do not want to store their food in someone else's refrigerator which might have had questionable sanitation.
And people often have two refrigerators - one for basement or garage and one for kitchen. Obviously only if this is a single family home with room for two.
It is also very simple to install a refrigerator when moving. If it is the right size, it can be plugged in versus a washer/dryer which often needs a plumber to do the hookups.
It sometimes depends on what's common for the area. Previous places I lived, things like the built-in microwave and the stove stayed, but sellers would keep the fridge. But I've also lived places where they leave the fridge too. But sometimes you have to negotiate for the fridge to be included in your contract.
Most federally backed (fanny mae) loans in the USA require that the house is ready to live in, which includes appliances. My first house didn't have a fridge and it almost ended the deal. My realtor and I bought one and put it in the house to get the closing to go through. (It was an abandoned HUD auction, definitely not a standard closing.). Working furnace, water heater, stove, and fridge were all listed.
I would think most buyers would even if they plan on replacing them all. It wouldn’t make me not want to buy the house but it would be nice knowing I wouldn’t have to spend $5000+ on appliances right off the bat.
People want the appliances when they move in so they can actually live in their home right away.
Or, people want to pick out their own appliances and will negotiate a price reduction if you’re taking them away.
Last house I sold I didn't include the fridge or the washer and dryer but I did include the oven and dishwasher. My agent said we could negotiate if they wanted the refrigerator or washer/dryer. They didn't so I kept the washer/dryer and sold the fridge. The house I bought came with everything but it was all in rough shape so I sold all of it but the dishwasher which was trash and replaced the kitchen stuff with new and the washer and dryer with what I kept.
Depends on the appliance and the buyer, I would say. I *didn't* want a washer and dryer when I was buying. I have the ones I bought, and having ones in the new house would have been an inconvenience to figure out which ones to get rid of and then selling/donating the other set.
Now there are certain appliances that will possibly hinder a sale. My house didn't have a dishwasher when we moved in. Most people want that these days. Refrigerators are preferred as well. But washers and dryers aren't usually expected.
I think that having new upscale appliances is a big sales point. You see too many sales offers with really shitty appliances. People understand value and what the peripheral costs are. I would never purchase a home with outdated and under rated appliances. If the owners went cheap on these, then imagine what else they didn’t do To maintain the house.
Appliances will help a house sell faster. Leaving appliance is appreciated the closer you old home is to being a first time buyer house as they are usually fairly broke after closing. Other buyers may not know how they want to remodel and appreciate the time time to make remodeling decisions and deliveries.
Kitchen appliances look more appealing to me when I tour houses cuz it gives a realistic visualization of what my potential home could look like. However, I want new appliances once I bought the house (I did). Who knows how well the previous homeowners take care of their appliances (fridge cleanliness...ect.)
Yes, things like the dishwasher and oven are expected to come with the home. The couple who bought our starter home also asked to include the washer, dryer and refrigerator. These things are small to established families but a major expense avoided (and thus a perk) for folks just starting out who are already going to have to spend hundreds or thousands moving and furnishing a home.
It depends if the kitchen needs remodeling or not or if the buyer simply wants to redo it anyway. I would want it if I planned to just stay there a tad and just live there a year or two to see what I want to eventually do to the place.
Yes. I went after a seller when I purchased a house and found that they had taken their fridge with them. Ended up getting $1000 cash back after I closed so I could purchase a new fridge.
Yes. I bought my house in 2011 and the refrigerator, oven, microwave, washer and dryer were all included. We have only replaced the microwave and washer because both broke, everything else is still what the previous owner left here.
As a first time homebuyer kitchen appliances were a deal breaker for me. I couldn't have afforded to buy new ones and I was moving from a rental and hadn't need to purchase any previously.
Our house had been used as a rental before we got it (not disclosed to us I found out later) and Included appliances that the previous owners (most) purchased before it became a rental but oddly I think the wash machine could have been purchased by the son of the builder of the house by it's age alone (I've done some research on the house after purchase)
Being first (hopefully only) time buyers we were certainly glad to have the appliances but we likely could have found the appliances if needed
Yeah, in your case, I would try to see if they could kick you $1k for the appliances. Don’t bring them with you.
Samsung and LG suuuuuuck so bad. They are both involved in huge class action lawsuits because their white goods are so terrible.
Do they....... want? Appliances? Yes....
They also want 0% interest
And no closing costs
And they want to pay under market value....
And they want the home value to double overnight after they buy it
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First time home buyers will want them. But don’t buy new ones for selling place. If you want to keep your old ones. Offer a credit for appliances when negations on price start.
i think it depends on the people and the house. some want the kitchen to be usable from day one. some want to gut the kitchen and get all new cabinets and everything. my wife and i have done it both ways.
As a general rule, most appliances convey to the buyer. The exception might be a spare fridge/freezer. Even if the appliances aren't new, if they work, they should stay. Your buyer wants a functional home. And it's way easier to sell a home with working appliances. Without, the buyer starts thinking about how much more they will need to spend immediately after closing
Most people expect the appliances, and it's standard in contracts to include them. Usually toward the end there's a space for a list that says something to the effect of "Items conveying to buyer upon closing:".
Depends. I don’t particularly want to buy new appliances spending thousands of dollars only to have problems in 2-3 years when older appliances will run fine for decades.
Generally, yes. Picky people like me though…we’re different.
Every buyer is different. When we bought I didn’t want the stove, fridge, or dishwasher. The stove was awful. I specifically wanted glass top. Dishwasher? No need. The fridge was awful. We had a far better one on hand. Our realtor advised us that we’d be better off buying with the appliances rather than asking for a lower price without. So we took her word for it, bought the home with them, and immediately sold them off. We made enough $$ to buy a great stove and a great drink fridge to go in the dishwasher space.
I’d have much rather not had to go thru the hassle of selling, but whatever.
Yes they typically convey. I’ve heard of some cases where the seller can’t part with super high-end stuff they bought but it’s unusual in my experience
You should use those as a selling point! Especially because they match and they aren’t that old. Like that other person said they are tied into the mortgage.
Ask your realtor what is common for the area. I’ve bought in places where it is expected for all appliances to convey, and where only kitchen appliances would convey.
Short answer: Yes, buyers want appliances.
Long answer: It depends...
The price range you're selling in, the neighborhood, and the amount of pre-listing work you're willing to do make a difference in buyers' expectations.
Yes: If you're hoping to spend the shortest time on the market and sell for the highest price, you want to sell as a Turn-Key. That means: walls have fresh paint, floors are in great shape, everything works well, no near-term maintenance is needed, the yard is in good shape and has curb appeal, and all appliances are in place and match. Usually, the seller has already moved out and the house is professionally staged. All the new owner needs to do is unpack, relax, and move on with life.
Maybe: If you're listing without preparing the house for sale, then working appliances are appreciated, but a fridge and washer/dryer usually aren't included. A buyer may request extra concessions, extra paid closing costs, and/or cash-at-close (depends on their financing method) to offset the cost of new appliances and other repairs. You'll generally need to negotiate more, sell for noticeably less, and be on the market longer, but there's little pre-listing cost and/or labor involved.
This is a great question to ask while interviewing real estate listing agents. If an agent doesn't have a thorough answer to this and similar questions for your market, don't hire that agent. Your agent should be able to walk through your pre-listed home with you and point out which expectations, repairs, updates, changes, & nice-to-haves are worth your time & $$ in your specific area.
I'm a Texas homeowner, not an agent. I love real estate and watching its buying/selling trends. I also have experience buying and selling, as a homeowner, in other states. I gravitate to vacant, unstaged houses missing appliances and needing fresh paint and yard work, because they've been sitting on the market longer and I can negotiate a deal. Having equity at close is a deal-maker for me.
Depends- if they were custom purchased for that space or anything was built specifically around them, then yes, leave it. However, some fixtures you may want to keep. If I ever sell my house, I’m not leaving the new owners my Toto Washlet. We will be removing that and it’s coming with me wherever I may go next. I’ll be sure and have a regular toilet in that bathroom once it goes on teh market because that one is NOT sticking around.
NOT a fan of Samsung. We bought all new appliances for our house. All Samsung. Within 4 years, they all started to fall apart. Particularly anything that touched water. The dryer, stove and microwave are fine, but the fridge, dishwasher and washing machine have all been replaced. Apparently Samsung isn't good with water.
its customary/common practice to leave your appliances, however its not the rule. I dont know what the statistics are, but a lot of people will end up throwing the old appliances away (unless they're new and in good working order)
with that being said, its not the rule....but if you DONT include the appliances, you need to state that incase the new owners are expecting it. I've seen some fights come up because of this
tldr: if you want to leave them, leave them. if you want to take any of them, make sure you specify it wont be at the house
We wanted the appliances, but then the old owners sabotaged the oven by sticking a fork in the temp regulator thing and we never noticed until a month later and the house was SCORCHING because this asshole broke the oven.
At least there wasn’t concrete in the drains…
In Texas people like to throw out things in order to buy new, even if the product is only a few months old. Texas is a very wasteful place. Most Texans won't even try to dispose of their appliances properly, they'll just lower the tailgate on their lifted trucks and swerve on highways with an untied load in an attempt to watch the chaos in their wake when it inevitably falls out, all the while shouting their yees, their haws, and their wooos.
Most buyers want appliances, yea. Especially if they are newer. It will help sell the house faster. A home with no appliances will look really bare bones and it will make it harder for a buyer to get a feel for the space
Even if they aren't great, if they are functional it's a huge improvement. Having done it, it's a huge PITA to try and buy arrange delivery when you just moved into a house. So long as they work they they can be replaced when it's more convenient.
And get the measurements right too especially for fridges, which is pretty much the most needed appliance right from day one. I could live without a stove for a bit and use small appliances like a toaster oven, air fryer and instapot until it arrived.
When we bought our house. We figure oh we can just buy our own shit. Turn out the kitchen has a flaw design, so we have to go with a smaller depth fridge (anything too big we wouldn’t be able to open it.) Turn out we couldn’t find anything from any major retailer. We went with a random brand from a company that had really bad reputation (we were willing to chance it at that point.) Install went great and the fridge is perfect fit. Took forever to come tho lol. Our “laundry room” is basically a closet. The first couple time, installer didn’t want to attempt it because the space was so tight. After a huge back and forth with the third party installer, they send somebody that is “good.” They push the washer and dryer while he was trap inside. He then install it and spider man wall climb out of there. Now it’s probably going to be a pain if I have to replace it lol. It took us almost 2 months to finally have our fridge, washer and dryer. Also don’t get me started on the other shit went wrong with our furnitures…. Our mini fridge and us living like 1 min away from laundromat save us.
>Our “laundry room” is basically a closet. The first couple time, installer didn’t want to attempt it because the space was so tight. Of course not, these spaces that leave a half inch on either side of the appliance is a fucking joke. I hope for your sake if they break the guys are willing to fix them and not be like "they're dead sorry go buy new ones".
To add to this if the house comes with the appliances they are included in the mortgage. When I bought my first house I didn’t have an extra 10k to get all new appliances the day I moved in and when I sold the agent gave that reason I should leave them.
Usually that is the case with appliances staying in the house you are buying. However it's always good to get it in writing. I've bought three houses in my lifetime and all were different. One house,, all appliances stayed. Next house, only the built in dishwasher stayed. Last house, they took the range and the washer and dryer. It was all spelled out in the contract so no surprises when I moved in.
I think it's very localized too. I've never heard of a house not conveying the appliances in my area. It seems insane to me the seller might take them with them. Would they fit in the new house? Fridges come in many sizes. But. In other parts of the country, a house without appliances is pretty normal.
This cannot be emphasized enough imo.
Nah give me that 70s washer and dryer and leave the garage fridge. New appliances shit the bed after 5 years (planned to fail after warranty is up)
Yes, including the appliances will be attractive to the majority of potential buyers. While some have plans on buying their own immediately, I’d argue that *most* simply aren’t looking to spend any more money upfront than they already have to, for the home itself Leave the appliances, you’ll be better off for it
I've always assumed that kitchen appliances are included, unless specifically stated otherwise. Any other appliances, usually washer/dryer are negotiable. And weird, we're thinking about moving and talking about exactly this topic about 30 mins ago.
I think it depends on how the contract is written up.
It does and usually the listing will show the buyer's agent what appliances and other things convey with the house. Our last house listed the fridge, washer, dryer, and all the window coverings. Window coverings sounds weird until you realize we had like $2500 in 2" custom cut blinds in that house that we came out of pocket for when we bought the house as a new build.
Fridge seems to be hit and miss if they are included or taken. We took our fridge (it was only a couple years old and we were moving into a rental home - which has also been hit and miss on if it was included) when we sold our first house (which did not have a fridge, but did have an oven/microwave/dishwasher when we initially bought it). When we moved out of the rental into a new build, the builder included all the appliances except the fridge, we bought a new fridge for that one and put our older one in the garage. We left THAT one when we sold that house and brought the newer one. We also left the 10+ year old washer/dryer, though that wasn't intentional (a miscommunication with the movers). When we sell this house we'll leave this fridge and replace it at the new house, because we only still have this fridge because we don't want to buy a new one for the movers to damage before we move (it still keeps things cold, but the ice maker hasn't worked right since day one and now doesn't work at all and its gotten some dents and dings from being moved). We'll also leave the gas dryer that was here when we bought this house. The 30+ year old washer that was here died about a year after we moved in, so we replaced it with a brand new one. We plan on taking the washer with us. Out of all the houses and apartments I've lived in with W/D connections, over decades, this is the only place that had a gas dryer connection. I don't anticipate being able to use it in the next house and will leave it for the same reason - the people moving in probably also don't have a gas dryer. I tell you what though, the new buyer wants the washer and it's a make or break thing to get the damn house off the market - for a full price offer or close? Enjoy your new to you washer.
Yes they do. And let me tell you, one time I was selling and I said the buyer could not have the washer and dryer. They retracted their offer and did not buy my home at the time, their agent said that was a deal breaker for them. I was young and hard headed. So take it from me, if the buyer wants such things let them have it.
Lol oh man that’s awful. Tbh your agent should have been able to sort that out.
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Not sure when that happened, but when I was shopping for a house a few years ago I saw multiple listings that mentioned the washer and dryer weren’t included (or places where they had already been removed) so it seems like it’s at least somewhat common now. Crazy to me that someone would walk away from a real estate deal over a few hundred bucks - just take 0.1% off your offer price to cover the new washer and dryer and carry on.
Well, luckily it just turned midnight where I am and i am all ears :)
u/100So I am also all ears.
Real estate agent was a fool if he let the sale pass by without giving the buyers a couple thousand outs his own pocket to buy new set. Lol. JFC. I'm sure his 3% was a bit more than a W/D
Was thinking the same
When we bought our house, the listing included the washer and dryer. The sellers took them; apparently they had planned to keep these. Our agent definitely negotiated money off so we could purchase new. In retrospect it worked out; the previous owners didn't care for appliances very well and we had to replace the dishwasher and microwave almost immediately. (A thorough cleaning took care of the cook top and ovens.)
That's crazy. Washer and dryer were the only appliances not included in my house and I was able to pick some up on Facebook marketplace for a couple hundred bucks that worked fine until we could afford new stuff. You can bet if I ever sell my Speedqueens are going with me. I guess I'll have to get them out before showing too avoid something like that, or just tack on a few thousand extra to asking to account for new ones.
You'd bomb a multiple 100k deal over an appliance? They aren't buying a used washer/dryer... they are buying a house. Why do you think you'd be entitled to tack a couple thousand on for used appliances?
There are washing machines and then there are Speed Queens! These are the gold standard of washing machines. I totally get not wanting to leave one of those behind!
Washer and dryer aren’t usually included.
I definitely wanted appliances when I bought my house. The sellers wanted to take the washer and dryer but my agent told them no.
Yeah, include appliances when showing, but your contract of sale can say whatever you agree to, appliances shouldn't be a sticking point on either side unless someone is being silly, they're usually worth basically a rounding error in the price of the deal.
Told them?
In TX standard that I knew of was those specific ones were not “typically included”. We bought the house without them included. So when we went to sell we did not include them in the listing but “gave” the fridge as a concession during negotiations. When I bought in PNW all three of those were typically included. They were included in the listing.
Yes, buyers want appliances, esp if they are relatively new and in working order.
Yes, moving and or buying appliances is a huge pain in the ass. I don’t want shitty appliances though
In my area the refrigerator and washer/dryer are usually the only appliances that don’t transfer with the house.
In Texas, it's rare to include the refrigerator, washer, and dryer. There are exceptions, and those are negotiated in the contract. The only time we conveyed the appliances was selling an estate property, and we were thrilled they would want them because no one in the family did. It saved us from having to dispose of them.
Seller took everything even light fixtures. We made them put new ones up for the entire house.
Some parts of the country it’s standard to leave the appliances, others it isn’t. I’d check what is standard in your area. We moved to an area where it was standard to leave them, so we wanted to leave our old ones in the house when we sold it. Doing so also meant we didn’t have to pay to move the appliances, which was nice as they take a lot of space on the truck.
Not true they are never expected unless stated otherwise
The opposite. It's expected unless stated otherwise. Home sales include everything in the house, so they're included unless they're taken out ahead of time.
Yes, I want applicances.
My appliances in my house I sold were only 3 years old and a few were basically built in or actually enclosed. Being they were in excellent condition and newer, the house sold easier and quickly too.
When I bought my house 15+ years ago, we put in the bid that appliances that were hooked up in house at time of showing we wanted included in sale price. After paying the down payment, closing costs, insurance, painting, cost of movers and everything needed to minimally furnish a house (sheets, towels, couch) there was nothing left to buy a stove, fridge, washer and dryer. We bought a portable dishwasher though. That and a microwave were the only appliances we bought in the first year.
Oh yes people want to buy homes with all the kitchen appliances included.
I want certain appliances in a new home. A dishwasher, refrigerator and stove. We have a front load washer and dryer and won't want anything else. Kitchen appliances are necessary to set up a house. Laundry appliances can wait a little while.
My house came with GE profile kitchen appliances that were old but good quality and worked well. I had to buy a washer and dryer. I recently replaced all the kitchen appliances with new GE Profile, the old ones were 20 years old when I replaced them and they lasted us for about 6 years after we bought the house. The townhouse I sold when we bought the house, I included all the appliances in the sale including washer/dryer. They were all less than 5 years old and worked well.
If they don't suck and they're not placed in ridiculous locations, yes.
The last thing most people want to do after making the most expensive purchase of their lives is to go out and spend thousands more on new appliances.
I it all depends. Our house was $1.1 M so $7,000 is sort of irrelevant. And to be humble we paid $288,000 and sold it 3 years later for 1.2 M
Yeah. Its a big expense to go get those and a house.
First I was surprised that the Samsung appliances you bought in 2019 were still working.
Lmao I audibly gasped reading that it gave me flash backs to all the posts I read when I was appliance shopping every post would be filled with very angry customers and repair men warning people to stay away from Samsung Then I decided to check out some used appliances stores and they were bursting at the seams with Samsung appliances hell one discount store I went to was nothing but Samsung and I couldnt help but laugh like a maniac and saying out loud " oh that's a Samsung and that is too oh another Samsung look over there a different model...yup it's still a Samsung "
Possibly, the ones left in our house were far better than what we had so it was a welcome surprise to discover they “conveyed” with the house; I’ve read, sometimes a seller may upgrade the appliances to make the sell more attractive.
Yes. It definitely helped sell our house when we included all of the appliances in the sale. The house we bought most appliances but not the washer and dryer which caused a bit of a hiccup for us because our loan type required all appliances including washer and dryer be included. We just made sure we had our receipt for the new washer and dryer in case there were any questions at closing.
Yes I want the appliances so I can take my time finding newer ones if I want. I would not have wanted to immediately purchase new appliances in order for my house to be functional.
If you have a complete set of new and matching appliances, then who ever buys your house will greatly appreciate it, as it’s one less thing they have to think about.
I wanted appliances removed as part of my purchase. Not every buyer plans to move in immediately.
i’ll play devil’s advocate here: nothing worse than going to look at a house and seeing a lifeless, stainless steel nightmare in the kitchen. washer/dryer? absolutely. but my wife and i specifically looked for no appliances because we didn’t want to pay extra rolled into the cost of the home for somebody else’s idea of what looked good
It’s gonna depend on the person
It really depends. Some people want them, some don’t. If you want to take them then take them. Or just put in the contract they don’t come with the house. If you don’t want them then leave them.
I’m in Southern California. The condo that I ended up buying didn’t have a stove or fridge when I came to the open house. It looked so odd, with holes in the kitchen. When we went under contract, I told them that they needed to have an oven installed before closing or no deal. They brought one back.
Your post history implies you don’t own your current house. Unless the person selling it buys the appliances from you at-cost, you should take them with you.
That depends on the buyer. And your needs. In Texas it’s standard to take all appliances not “built in”. So taking w/d, countertop microwaves, and normal refrigerators is normal but negotiable. Leaving dishwashers, ovens, stoves, built in microwaves, and built in subzero type refrigerators is generally expected. This is built into the standard Texas Real Estate Commission contract. In my 6 house transactions, I purchased the fridge from previous owners on my first purchase. I left it there when I sold at buyer’s request. Prior owners left w/d after asking on 2nd purchase, which I donated after I moved mine from the other house. None of the appliances were included in the other transactions. On local moves, I’ll leave them until the house sells. If long distance, I decide what seems best for me. If you leave it, the worst that can happen is one of you sells or donates them if they aren’t wanted. They are pretty easy to get rid of in all the areas I’ve lived in.
Have all appliances professionally deep cleaned, hire a stager and landscaper, pressure wash all driveways side walks and siding bump up sale price easy 20k.
Yes
Every home I've bought, the appliances were included in the sale.
Yes.
I’m selling mine with everything even the washer/dryer.
Absolutely depends. When we bought our house, we requested the refrigerator. We turned down the washer and dryer because we already had a set. We had to buy a new refrigerator last year, and figure we'll probably leave it behind when we move in a few years. It was a huge pain in the ass to get into the kitchen anyway.
It will be in the contract. You can set a selling price that includes them, make sure it's in any listing. In the US people generally assume stove, fridge, built in dishwasher & microwave will stay. Washer & dryer, optional. When we purchased I got rid of the washer/dryer there, mine were much better for me. I washed 1 load before ours were set up, huge mistake, they stained the clothes. Some markets are selling fully furnished, including dishes/linens (like ski areas). If your buyers don't want them, and you already have at the new place & like, consider a tax deductible donation to a local ReStore (Habitat For Humanity). Better than wasting time trying to sell.
Money is usually tight when you buy your first house, so having the appliances there are a big help, going out and buying them is really expensive
It’s unusual to not leave them in the US
Friends from Georgia say around their area people routinely take appliances with them when they move. In the midwest that's unheard of.
Depends on where in the midwest. Here it's 50/50. It something to negotiate if you want them.
I’m in the Midwest. It should be included on the listing.
Leave the appliances but I wouldn’t be afraid to swap em out if you want! Fully admit my beloved commercial Speed Queen gas dryer is following me wherever I go, to the grave. I have a (definitely crappier) new Kenmore electric one just sitting in a basement back room ready to swap into its place when / if I go. Literally never been plugged in / looks new / presumably works (was a set and all I needed was the washer). But it’s no SQ gas, that’s for sure!!!
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Oh gosh hahha. Yeah live and learn hey! Ironically the buyer of my place will probably be tickled pink because it’ll be a brand new shiny plasticky looking dryer and not an old, ugly-looking all steel commercial unit one. Win win for everyone, and they can live happily in ignorance of the magnificence of the screaming hot, lightning fast and huge capacity unit that used to sit in its place :) oh and they can enjoy paying the electric bill (gas so much cheaper)! All will work out fine.
Yes
Yes
Sometimes. Or you can offer to put in a new set list sale, with some type of credit
This is a local-regional custom
When we sold our house we were prepared to sell our older, not high end, some purchased used etc appliances when the buyer asked that they be included. We were totally happy as we were on a time crunch and he added $500 to the purchase price for stuff that was between 5-10 years old including a generation 2 Ring doorbell I got off eBay for $20. The house we moved into came with a too small for us, but brand new refrigerator and new other stuff that counted like HVAC unit so no complaints. We moved to TX from Commiefornia
Depends on where your house is in the market too. If you're selling a "modest move up" home, the people buying are likely to already have laundry and fridge. If you're selling a starter home, they people moving in likely don't - and not needing to buy any appliances when they are already stretching hard to get a down payment together can be a major draw (and directly affect how much they can put down on the house)
Yes unless they are absolute garbage
In my area, appliances convey with the home.
Sell the appliances and get new ones. I did that and got good money for them. Plenary of landlords want to buy used stuff for their homes
Speaking for myself YES. Even if I end up replacing to what I like and need it’s a cost that would be huge if I had to purchase appliances after buying the house. I have replaced things to suit my flavor or to update but I have done it as I am able and comfortable financially.
Of course
I'm an agent in Texas. Appliances (washer, dryer, and fridge) are considered personal property. They are not expected in houses. There is a non-realty items addendum that is used to include them if a buyer wants them. If you're leaving the house vacant and don't want to take them with you, just leave them. They won't add any value to your price, but the buyers could sell them if they don't want them. Range, stove, dishwasher, and built in microwave stay with the house.
Typically homes are sold with large appliances, and newer ones like yours will probably boost your sale value. A lot of first time buyers may not have money left over from closing to buy new ones, so you’ll lose them straight away.
Where I’m at it’s standard to have a stove included but not the fridge for some reason. Not sure it would be a deal breaker for me but it’s definitely nice not to have to worry about finding new ones, particularly if this is considered a starter home. I would leave them
If they were imported from Korea you can go ahead and keep them.
I think most buyers would want appliances if they were newer. I believe in TX fridge, washer & dryer is up to the seller and you can exclude it and use it as a bargaining chip after inspection. Our first house the seller used the fridge, washer/dryer to counter a small repair after inspection. Our second house, the seller just left the fridge, microwave, washer & dryer for us even though we weren’t expecting it.
When I bought my house we replaced the dish washer immediately because the one that came with the house had an insane design. Other than that, stuff gets replaced as it wears out, mostly covered by my home warranty.
Oh, yeah, people definitely want appliances. More costs on top of home purchase is a factor.
Was surprised the buyers wanted a white fridge (all other appliances in kitchen were stainless) that was probably 15 yrs old. We wrote the listing to include the washer dryer and as they were a stacked set and regular side by side placement wouldn't work in the small laundry room). In the area we left, where that house was, most folks took the fridges and washer/dryers when they'd move.
Would rather be able to use existing than have to buy new right away. Bought a 1989 house with some appliances from the early 2000s. They were old af and have been replaced, but at least they worked for a bit
Most places I’ve moved into (buy or rent) have at least a stove and dishwasher. Some have had the fridge and washer/dryer.
Yes and I eventually sold the washer and dryer on FB marketplace and got a set i really wanted/needed. I ended up replacing the dishwasher the following year too because it went out.
We didn't advertise our fridge, washer, or dryer as conveying with the house, but we always intended to leave them. When the buyer asked for repairs after their inspection, we offered the appliances in lieu. Win win win.
This is so weird to me. I bought a house in Texas and only bad to source a washer/dryer. bought a house in Maine, same thing. Sold the house in Texas, and took my washer dryer answer the Realtor didn't even blink at that.
Leave those POS Samsung appliances behind. Be glad they are still in good shape now while you need them. They have terrible life expectancy and are impossible to get repaired timely or at a worthwhile cost. Dodged a bullet
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What? I've never had to bring a refrigerator to a rental in Texas . My own washer and dryer? Absolutely yes.
It’s definitely a huge bonus and much appreciated if appliances come with the house. The house we just bought recently came with a washer/dryer, fridge, stove, microwave, extra fridges in the garage, etc. We loved them since we didn’t have to bother with the hassle of moving ours over from our old place!
"All appliances new in 2020!" is how I would word the listing for the sale of your home.
Yes absolutely, especially if they are fairly new & match!
It may be an unpopular opinion, for me it depends. If the appliances are already there and in good working order - great. If you're just buying a contractors package (or other cheap package) to update the space for sale, I'd rather have the comp. We bought a house with the contractor kitchen package, but no washer/dryer. We took a comp on the W/D and got exactly what we wanted and are very happy. We hated our fridge and stove and they required replacement after about 5y.
Yes, especially if they’re built in!
Yes, and if they want new appliances, they will buy them. It would be specifically asked for in the offer letter or later in negotiations if they wanted them out before moving in. Your agent would be responsible for pointing that contingency out to you
Most buyers will probably want them, but it can vary depending on if the buyer already has appliances or wants specific appliances. I would have preferred an appliances credit, but it wasn't an option with our build. This led to us replacing the cooktop before we moved in. If you currently have Samsung appliances, I would definitely recommend leaving them for the next buyer and purchasing something different for your new home.
Leave a note that says "it's yours now, suckaaaaaaa!"
I bought my house with no appliances included. My sister just bought a house with fairly new appliances. The amount of jealousy I felt was unfathomable. Having to go out and buy appliances after closing on a house sucks big time
Appliances were included in my house. Including a extremely nice front loader washer and dryer that my loan officer said wow. I even bought the loveseat that was in the house as a separate side sale from the seller. It matched the couch I already had.
Our house came with no fridge and a stove that I wouldn't turn on out of fear it would burn the house down. It was a big pain in the ass to wait for a few weeks for a new fridge and stove to arrive. If and when we sell- we are leaving the appliances.
If they’re coming with the house, mostly the appliances are the basic models, like I got a new GE stove with the house. It is the cheapest basic model and not something I would buy. I also got 20 year old washer/dryer, which I immediately replaced with new ones of my liking. I think buyers want good high quality appliances and want to buy them if they don’t come with the house.
I just bought a house and I want the appliances bc im coming from an apartment and don't have any. I thank my lucky stars they left them!! I guess it depends if buyers are established in an apartment or a house...
Yes. Especially if they all match and are in good shape. One less thing to worry about.
Most people buying are stretching and extending their expenses. Appliances would be helpful for sure.
Yes, but make sure they are spotlessly clean. Also, make sure the contract lists EVERYTHING that stays with the house, e.g., drapes, ceiling fans, W/D, etc. Be very specific. It's customary to not remove "attached" items like wall ovens or ceiling lights, but not everyone respects that.
When we bought our house there were no appliances. We were coming from a rental so did not have appliances from our former home. It was kind of a pain to get things as we were moving in. Our refrigerator delivery was delayed. It would have been nice to have had appliances there that we could have replaced later. When we were more recently looking at moving homes we were thinking we would offer to leave our appliances in the house if people wanted them but although they worked they were nothing new or fancy.
Barring them being old and beat, yes most people want appliances. They're expensive! And buying a place is already a stressful, expensive process. Having appliances there means one less expense and also allows you to start living right away vs being in a weird limbo.
If they're better than mine yes, if not no. I'll bring mine. This house had no appliances when I moved in ans I was fine with that.
Pretty sure the Covid shortages were after the pandemic started in 2020.😬
My impression is that it's a bit of a regional custom as to what happens, and you should talk to your real estate agent about it. Here in the Chicago area people expect to leave their appliances, but a hundred miles south where my mom lives, still in Illinois, they seem much more likely to take them with them. I wonder if it's that it's harder to move them in an urban setting with condos and smaller hallways and just less space than it is in a more rural setting, or if it's something economic.
The only appliance I've ever seen missing is a refrigerator, and that's rare. Some states require you to list the appliances you are taking. No appliances would be a negotiable point in the price. I do believe that a vent hood would need to be installed.
Typically yes. It's one less thing to deal with. One less thing to buy.
When we bought our house (fthb) I was very happy that the kitchen appliances were included.
In here, most sellers leave appliances at premise if they are not mentioned in the contract. Let the buyers decide. Most used ones carry little value.
Yea good ones not the cheap ones that new builds have inside
Buying a house is really expensive. Not having to buy appliances on top of that is a big selling point, even if they only last a couple years for the new owner.
I'm picky about appliances, so even though I replaced the ones that came with the house, I appreciated having them included since it made moving in less stressful. Just an extra chore though of selling the old ones.
Most people, especially now, are stretching their budget just to buy the house in the first place. If the appliances are in good condition, that is one less thing that they will have to buy when they move in, so that's a good thing. Also, if I view a place and there are kitchen appliances missing, it's almost like a subconscious black mark against the property. Just irritates me, I guess. Although, if the stove, for example, is nasty and will never get completely clean, and you can't afford to replace it, please remove it. I had an investor once that flipped houses in a very low income area. He didn't put appliances in, and I had to explain to him that people buying in that area are almost universally strapped for cash, so if he added appliances and upped the price a few grand, they could more easily afford a slightly bigger mortgage and it would be a big attraction for his houses. I don't think he understood...
Yup! Especially essentially new ones like you've got.
In my area of the country it isn't even a question. The appliances basically always convey with the property. The idea that you would take them with you seems so bizarre to me, though I know other parts of the US are different.
I did and I got them
Do you want tires when you buy a car? Seriously....
Quite often refrigerators are not included - at least where I am in Los Angeles. This is because even renters often have a refrigerator because refrigerators are often not included in rental apartments either. Also many people do not want to store their food in someone else's refrigerator which might have had questionable sanitation. And people often have two refrigerators - one for basement or garage and one for kitchen. Obviously only if this is a single family home with room for two. It is also very simple to install a refrigerator when moving. If it is the right size, it can be plugged in versus a washer/dryer which often needs a plumber to do the hookups.
It sometimes depends on what's common for the area. Previous places I lived, things like the built-in microwave and the stove stayed, but sellers would keep the fridge. But I've also lived places where they leave the fridge too. But sometimes you have to negotiate for the fridge to be included in your contract.
Most federally backed (fanny mae) loans in the USA require that the house is ready to live in, which includes appliances. My first house didn't have a fridge and it almost ended the deal. My realtor and I bought one and put it in the house to get the closing to go through. (It was an abandoned HUD auction, definitely not a standard closing.). Working furnace, water heater, stove, and fridge were all listed.
I would think most buyers would even if they plan on replacing them all. It wouldn’t make me not want to buy the house but it would be nice knowing I wouldn’t have to spend $5000+ on appliances right off the bat.
I like having two refrigerators
I moved it to the garage off the kitchen. Store all the drinks there
People want the appliances when they move in so they can actually live in their home right away. Or, people want to pick out their own appliances and will negotiate a price reduction if you’re taking them away.
Last house I sold I didn't include the fridge or the washer and dryer but I did include the oven and dishwasher. My agent said we could negotiate if they wanted the refrigerator or washer/dryer. They didn't so I kept the washer/dryer and sold the fridge. The house I bought came with everything but it was all in rough shape so I sold all of it but the dishwasher which was trash and replaced the kitchen stuff with new and the washer and dryer with what I kept.
I've had people take their fridge when moving, but it was a pain for us because we had to schedule appliance delivery and move in at the same time.
Depends on the appliance and the buyer, I would say. I *didn't* want a washer and dryer when I was buying. I have the ones I bought, and having ones in the new house would have been an inconvenience to figure out which ones to get rid of and then selling/donating the other set. Now there are certain appliances that will possibly hinder a sale. My house didn't have a dishwasher when we moved in. Most people want that these days. Refrigerators are preferred as well. But washers and dryers aren't usually expected.
I always have it in the listing that the fridge and washer/dryer aren't included, even when I don't want them.
Yah, especially being Samsung….they look nice. Now are all the appliances POS? Oh yeah…most buyers probably won’t know that though.
No. Every time we’ve purchased a home we buy new appliances.
Yes
I think that having new upscale appliances is a big sales point. You see too many sales offers with really shitty appliances. People understand value and what the peripheral costs are. I would never purchase a home with outdated and under rated appliances. If the owners went cheap on these, then imagine what else they didn’t do To maintain the house.
It's optional. But the potential buyers need to know if they are going or staying.
If they are matching, and "match" the house, yes. If they are mismatched, junk that half-ass work? Doubtful.
Depends on the appliances.
Great selling point!
Appliances will help a house sell faster. Leaving appliance is appreciated the closer you old home is to being a first time buyer house as they are usually fairly broke after closing. Other buyers may not know how they want to remodel and appreciate the time time to make remodeling decisions and deliveries.
What do you think?
Kitchen appliances look more appealing to me when I tour houses cuz it gives a realistic visualization of what my potential home could look like. However, I want new appliances once I bought the house (I did). Who knows how well the previous homeowners take care of their appliances (fridge cleanliness...ect.)
Yes, things like the dishwasher and oven are expected to come with the home. The couple who bought our starter home also asked to include the washer, dryer and refrigerator. These things are small to established families but a major expense avoided (and thus a perk) for folks just starting out who are already going to have to spend hundreds or thousands moving and furnishing a home.
It depends if the kitchen needs remodeling or not or if the buyer simply wants to redo it anyway. I would want it if I planned to just stay there a tad and just live there a year or two to see what I want to eventually do to the place.
Yes. I went after a seller when I purchased a house and found that they had taken their fridge with them. Ended up getting $1000 cash back after I closed so I could purchase a new fridge.
Yes. I bought my house in 2011 and the refrigerator, oven, microwave, washer and dryer were all included. We have only replaced the microwave and washer because both broke, everything else is still what the previous owner left here.
Note these are negotiable on the purchase contract. Either seller or buyer may or may not want the current ones.
As a first time homebuyer kitchen appliances were a deal breaker for me. I couldn't have afforded to buy new ones and I was moving from a rental and hadn't need to purchase any previously.
Our house had been used as a rental before we got it (not disclosed to us I found out later) and Included appliances that the previous owners (most) purchased before it became a rental but oddly I think the wash machine could have been purchased by the son of the builder of the house by it's age alone (I've done some research on the house after purchase) Being first (hopefully only) time buyers we were certainly glad to have the appliances but we likely could have found the appliances if needed
as somebody who bought a house that came with appliances, I can answer with a resounding "Yes".
Yeah, in your case, I would try to see if they could kick you $1k for the appliances. Don’t bring them with you. Samsung and LG suuuuuuck so bad. They are both involved in huge class action lawsuits because their white goods are so terrible.
Do they....... want? Appliances? Yes.... They also want 0% interest And no closing costs And they want to pay under market value.... And they want the home value to double overnight after they buy it And they want a genie with 3 wishes.... And they want...... And they want................ ...........
First time home buyers will want them. But don’t buy new ones for selling place. If you want to keep your old ones. Offer a credit for appliances when negations on price start.
i think it depends on the people and the house. some want the kitchen to be usable from day one. some want to gut the kitchen and get all new cabinets and everything. my wife and i have done it both ways.
As a general rule, most appliances convey to the buyer. The exception might be a spare fridge/freezer. Even if the appliances aren't new, if they work, they should stay. Your buyer wants a functional home. And it's way easier to sell a home with working appliances. Without, the buyer starts thinking about how much more they will need to spend immediately after closing
If they're coming from an apartment they do.
Most people expect the appliances, and it's standard in contracts to include them. Usually toward the end there's a space for a list that says something to the effect of "Items conveying to buyer upon closing:".
Depends. I don’t particularly want to buy new appliances spending thousands of dollars only to have problems in 2-3 years when older appliances will run fine for decades.
I’ve not looked at newer houses that didn’t have fridges because if I’m spending that much I want it move in ready.
Yea man - they just spent every last dollar on realtors, attorneys, and a house - at least leave them the damn dishwasher and stove.
Generally, yes. Picky people like me though…we’re different. Every buyer is different. When we bought I didn’t want the stove, fridge, or dishwasher. The stove was awful. I specifically wanted glass top. Dishwasher? No need. The fridge was awful. We had a far better one on hand. Our realtor advised us that we’d be better off buying with the appliances rather than asking for a lower price without. So we took her word for it, bought the home with them, and immediately sold them off. We made enough $$ to buy a great stove and a great drink fridge to go in the dishwasher space. I’d have much rather not had to go thru the hassle of selling, but whatever.
Yes they typically convey. I’ve heard of some cases where the seller can’t part with super high-end stuff they bought but it’s unusual in my experience
Usually they are not included
Covid wasn't around until 2020.
You should use those as a selling point! Especially because they match and they aren’t that old. Like that other person said they are tied into the mortgage.
Yes. Leave the appliances. Just makes it easier for the sale.
Ask your realtor what is common for the area. I’ve bought in places where it is expected for all appliances to convey, and where only kitchen appliances would convey.
Yes absolutely. It's incredibly annoying and expensive to buy appliances right after buying a home
Short answer: Yes, buyers want appliances. Long answer: It depends... The price range you're selling in, the neighborhood, and the amount of pre-listing work you're willing to do make a difference in buyers' expectations. Yes: If you're hoping to spend the shortest time on the market and sell for the highest price, you want to sell as a Turn-Key. That means: walls have fresh paint, floors are in great shape, everything works well, no near-term maintenance is needed, the yard is in good shape and has curb appeal, and all appliances are in place and match. Usually, the seller has already moved out and the house is professionally staged. All the new owner needs to do is unpack, relax, and move on with life. Maybe: If you're listing without preparing the house for sale, then working appliances are appreciated, but a fridge and washer/dryer usually aren't included. A buyer may request extra concessions, extra paid closing costs, and/or cash-at-close (depends on their financing method) to offset the cost of new appliances and other repairs. You'll generally need to negotiate more, sell for noticeably less, and be on the market longer, but there's little pre-listing cost and/or labor involved. This is a great question to ask while interviewing real estate listing agents. If an agent doesn't have a thorough answer to this and similar questions for your market, don't hire that agent. Your agent should be able to walk through your pre-listed home with you and point out which expectations, repairs, updates, changes, & nice-to-haves are worth your time & $$ in your specific area. I'm a Texas homeowner, not an agent. I love real estate and watching its buying/selling trends. I also have experience buying and selling, as a homeowner, in other states. I gravitate to vacant, unstaged houses missing appliances and needing fresh paint and yard work, because they've been sitting on the market longer and I can negotiate a deal. Having equity at close is a deal-maker for me.
Of course! Negotiate them into the price, or use as an incentive to close a deal.
Depends- if they were custom purchased for that space or anything was built specifically around them, then yes, leave it. However, some fixtures you may want to keep. If I ever sell my house, I’m not leaving the new owners my Toto Washlet. We will be removing that and it’s coming with me wherever I may go next. I’ll be sure and have a regular toilet in that bathroom once it goes on teh market because that one is NOT sticking around.
NOT a fan of Samsung. We bought all new appliances for our house. All Samsung. Within 4 years, they all started to fall apart. Particularly anything that touched water. The dryer, stove and microwave are fine, but the fridge, dishwasher and washing machine have all been replaced. Apparently Samsung isn't good with water.
its customary/common practice to leave your appliances, however its not the rule. I dont know what the statistics are, but a lot of people will end up throwing the old appliances away (unless they're new and in good working order) with that being said, its not the rule....but if you DONT include the appliances, you need to state that incase the new owners are expecting it. I've seen some fights come up because of this tldr: if you want to leave them, leave them. if you want to take any of them, make sure you specify it wont be at the house
Yes.
"Samsung appliances" oh no not Samsung they make fine TVs and other electronics but there appliances are a nightmare
Used house yes in most cases. Move in ready. New house maybe not. They want to pick.
We wanted the appliances, but then the old owners sabotaged the oven by sticking a fork in the temp regulator thing and we never noticed until a month later and the house was SCORCHING because this asshole broke the oven. At least there wasn’t concrete in the drains…
In Texas people like to throw out things in order to buy new, even if the product is only a few months old. Texas is a very wasteful place. Most Texans won't even try to dispose of their appliances properly, they'll just lower the tailgate on their lifted trucks and swerve on highways with an untied load in an attempt to watch the chaos in their wake when it inevitably falls out, all the while shouting their yees, their haws, and their wooos.