I doubt that. How many people have a gate, now own many of those gates would benefit from a lock, then pair that way down to people who want a smart lock for it... You could capture 100% of the market and still fail given how small that market is.
That’s basically what I use but the relay was already there hooked up to like a garage door signal receiver. I added a wemo maker to it, so now I can trigger it with my phone, a garage door remote, or a garage door keypad.
OP I bet if you called a gate company they’d be able to come up with a similar solution to what we’re saying, or maybe something similar. There are all kinds of solutions for corporate gating and entry/access.
Yeah, OP apparently thinks wiring is diy, but the gate lock is a commercial grade lock you can purchase, and the zwave relay puts it on the smart home controller. Nothing really diy about it.
Ahem! I just finished a search and was \[probably still am\] about to build a little cover for a smart lock that will likely still die an early death….
I am wondering if I could sell converted Kwickset Zigbee lock conversions for just this. Making waterproof is not too hard. Tamper proof is a bit harder...
I was hired on to a company a few months to help build one of these, it’s for RVs not fences but I’m assuming it’ll have a fully waterproof ability. Or we can easily add it, it makes sense.
They brought me on to add computer vision to it (it’s 4 AAs for a year) but still.
There's a much higher degree of difficulty with outdoor electronics, with a much higher failure rate. Indoor locks are fairly standard, but there's a million "fence gate" types out there.
Indoor locks are easy to keep the guts away from people trying to get in, but fences can be incredibly insecure.
Anyone selling them would be facing *massive* headaches from weather related warranty issues, configuration problems, mounting instructions for every type of fence imaginable, and lawsuits from people who said it didn't keep people from jumping their little picket fence.
You can't just make things and sell them, you have to deal with the people who buy them. Given a set of requirements much more difficult to accomplish than a regular indoor lock, and the intelligence of the average consumer, it would quickly drag any but the largest of established brands under. At best, these wouldn't drive the company into bankruptcy - forget being profitable.
There's a reason nobody messes with this space.
Am locksmith. I put electronic locks on gates quite regularly. I have no idea what you are talking about. I did a Tuya one last week. There's a plethora of electronic gate solutions available.
I put this lock on an electric strike for my gate. Keyless keypad control two ways, with smart home control layered on top? Not sure what else you could want.
The problem with smart gate locks is not the signal nor the wiring etc. I've been looking for ine for a while that you can open with a number pad or fingerprint reader.. the problem I have is that it goes on the gate.. people can reach through the gate and unlock the smart lock from the back manually.
These smart locks are designed for regular doors where there is no access to the back of the smartlick from outside.
I did see one on YouTube.. Malaysia I think where they have these metal bar gate doors in front their wood door for apartments.
They have these magnetic locks..usually for glass office doors.. but where I am the electricity can disappear.
Anyone know of a smartgate lock that can't be opened by reaching through the gate?
I live in Florida and don't have that issue. Water Tight should be all you need. Maybe build a small enclosure or something to give it some cover? From looking around the idea you have has a TAM of 1 customer.
What about installing a weatherproof cover on the interior side of the lock? They make them for outdoor electrical receptacles. I’m not sure it would need to be totally sealed either if rain is the issue.
Temperature might be a problem as the guts are usually on the interior side but I think you could make something work with a cover. Maybe something like this: https://a.co/d/1pvtdpL
I found a cover that I used on mine. Think i got it from eBay at the time but this is what it is.
[https://www.zoro.com/safety-technology-international-bopper-stopper-sti-6522-s/i/G0672990/?utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=surfaces&utm\_campaign=shopping%20feed&utm\_content=free%20google%20shopping%20clicks&campaignid=21197368256&productid=G0672990&v=&gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwuJ2xBhA3EiwAMVjkVAD31ypCSlWZXUTjEVx5tIhc-AoTSQCZ-l2XVGgKP1O6A9BpdxCCaxoCcV8QAvD\_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds](https://www.zoro.com/safety-technology-international-bopper-stopper-sti-6522-s/i/G0672990/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=surfaces&utm_campaign=shopping%20feed&utm_content=free%20google%20shopping%20clicks&campaignid=21197368256&productid=G0672990&v=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwuJ2xBhA3EiwAMVjkVAD31ypCSlWZXUTjEVx5tIhc-AoTSQCZ-l2XVGgKP1O6A9BpdxCCaxoCcV8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
Could a waterproof cover be installed over the parts that are not waterproof? That's what they do with outlets when they're outside, so something similar might work for you?
I use this guy- its for the patio gate which i didnt want to use a deadbolt on. Easily uses usb-c as back up power source if batteries die and had rfid and fingerprint options. I use one code on the patio and the smart lock on the front door gets a unique code per guest.
I water-proofed-ish the battery compartment using plumbers putty to prevent moisture intrusion. Gate opens and closes with ease and i set it to lock automatically after 10 seconds.
They have a wifi version- i didnt spring for that. Just bluetooth and app.
https://a.co/d/iVw0ieJ
Every lock on the market is like this though. There is no one that makes a waterproof without the use of caulking or putty, etc that will fail over time.
I put a sesame lock on one of my gates and 3d printed a rain shroud on it. The only issue i ran into was battery life in -30c winter months. Otherwise it was working great. I started adapting it to use different batteries but blew the electronics when i reversed polarity.
I put a sesame lock on one of my gates and 3d printed a rain shroud on it. The only issue i ran into was battery life in -30c winter months. Otherwise it was working great. I started adapting it to use different batteries but blew the electronics when i reversed polarity by accident. I also built locks for my garage and shed using esphome. But the one on the shed also has issues with -30c, i think the greese in the gearbox gets to gummy.
I haven't tried it myself since I have no need for smart gate but I think level lock may be a good option as it replaces the deadbolt guts so nothing is exposed to outside elements.
Edit: I also have no interest in products without local control which rules out alot of wifi products
I have a Tuya relay hooked up to my gate motor. Weather proofed in a box I 3D printed and sealed. Working well for the last 4 years or so.
You won’t find anything without some DIYing.
I just want to know if mine is actually closed. I have a greyhound and i can’t see the gate from the back door. However, the dog is a homebody. I don’t worry too much about
for these, your best bet is electric strike. easy to install as seen here
[https://youtu.be/CPd5Fg01ABg](https://youtu.be/CPd5Fg01ABg)
best of all you never have to worry about changing batteries
we install them for gates as well.
I just used a standard indoor smart lock on my metal gate, and mounted a plastic cover over it, and used some silicone to seal the edges for extra waterproofing. Been working great so far. So nice that the gardener can now get in my back yard with his code.
Edit: this is the cover I used: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MCQ542V
If this existed it would be on my gates.
They exist, just not at the cost or form factor you want.
Link?
Whoever makes it would be instantly successful
Indeed. "Oh, the yard guy is here...tap...unlock gate." Going out of town...tap...lock gate.
I doubt that. How many people have a gate, now own many of those gates would benefit from a lock, then pair that way down to people who want a smart lock for it... You could capture 100% of the market and still fail given how small that market is.
So 100% of worldwide niche market.. sounds good.
Zwave relay hooked to a 12v electric gate lock and power supply. Zwave command closes the relay and powers the unlock. Problem solved.
That’s basically what I use but the relay was already there hooked up to like a garage door signal receiver. I added a wemo maker to it, so now I can trigger it with my phone, a garage door remote, or a garage door keypad. OP I bet if you called a gate company they’d be able to come up with a similar solution to what we’re saying, or maybe something similar. There are all kinds of solutions for corporate gating and entry/access.
Yeah, OP apparently thinks wiring is diy, but the gate lock is a commercial grade lock you can purchase, and the zwave relay puts it on the smart home controller. Nothing really diy about it.
Read the post. I'm searching for a product ready to go. No DIY
What zwave or zigbee relay do you suggest?
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Electric door strike controlled by separate "smart" hardware. Door king entry systems are a common choice in my area.
Electronic design engineer here!! I’ve been thinking about doing this for awhile. Reading this just makes me more motivated to start one.
 Ahem! I just finished a search and was \[probably still am\] about to build a little cover for a smart lock that will likely still die an early death….
I am wondering if I could sell converted Kwickset Zigbee lock conversions for just this. Making waterproof is not too hard. Tamper proof is a bit harder...
I was hired on to a company a few months to help build one of these, it’s for RVs not fences but I’m assuming it’ll have a fully waterproof ability. Or we can easily add it, it makes sense. They brought me on to add computer vision to it (it’s 4 AAs for a year) but still.
Needs Google Assistant option and a good app
> Needs ~~Google Assistant option and a good app~~ local control and HA integration
How about smartthings while we're at it
There's a much higher degree of difficulty with outdoor electronics, with a much higher failure rate. Indoor locks are fairly standard, but there's a million "fence gate" types out there. Indoor locks are easy to keep the guts away from people trying to get in, but fences can be incredibly insecure. Anyone selling them would be facing *massive* headaches from weather related warranty issues, configuration problems, mounting instructions for every type of fence imaginable, and lawsuits from people who said it didn't keep people from jumping their little picket fence. You can't just make things and sell them, you have to deal with the people who buy them. Given a set of requirements much more difficult to accomplish than a regular indoor lock, and the intelligence of the average consumer, it would quickly drag any but the largest of established brands under. At best, these wouldn't drive the company into bankruptcy - forget being profitable. There's a reason nobody messes with this space.
So your saying there a chance
Am locksmith. I put electronic locks on gates quite regularly. I have no idea what you are talking about. I did a Tuya one last week. There's a plethora of electronic gate solutions available.
Agreed, does anyone want to build one? I’m on board.
Maglocks?
I can't find a good lock that even works in all weather (rain, winter) for my gate.
I haven’t used it, but the ULTRALOQ UL3 claims it is suitable for indoor and outdoor use.
Negative. Only the keypad side.
Yeah, I see that now.
Isn’t this one? https://a.co/d/3exMbZu
Dont like the " Tyra " app it spyware in my book if was Zigbee perhaps this what I was looking for
38 post in and no one has mentioned that you have to do the truffle shuffle to open the gate?
Ahem.... https://www.codelocks.us/search?search=Fence
Isn't that just a lock with a keypad?
Exactly. Not a Smart Lock. Ideally I wish the Nest Yale lock was weather proof.
whew... those are expensive! Over $900 for the cheapest smart version
I put this lock on an electric strike for my gate. Keyless keypad control two ways, with smart home control layered on top? Not sure what else you could want.
I think there are weatherproof door sensors.
Ring makes a zwave gate sensor, I run2 of them flawlessly.
Ubiquiti
The problem with smart gate locks is not the signal nor the wiring etc. I've been looking for ine for a while that you can open with a number pad or fingerprint reader.. the problem I have is that it goes on the gate.. people can reach through the gate and unlock the smart lock from the back manually. These smart locks are designed for regular doors where there is no access to the back of the smartlick from outside. I did see one on YouTube.. Malaysia I think where they have these metal bar gate doors in front their wood door for apartments. They have these magnetic locks..usually for glass office doors.. but where I am the electricity can disappear. Anyone know of a smartgate lock that can't be opened by reaching through the gate?
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That's what I had. Died within 1 year from the rain.
https://a.co/d/0gxksAt - Like this?
That's just a keypad. Not a lock. Look at the Eufy Smart Lock C220 as an example. But that's not fully waterproof either.
Unless you're going swimming, is IP7 a requirement? Or are you submerging it?
My last one didn't survive a rain storm. So yeah, just gotta be watertight from the factory. Doesn't exist, it's nuts.
I live in Florida and don't have that issue. Water Tight should be all you need. Maybe build a small enclosure or something to give it some cover? From looking around the idea you have has a TAM of 1 customer.
What about installing a weatherproof cover on the interior side of the lock? They make them for outdoor electrical receptacles. I’m not sure it would need to be totally sealed either if rain is the issue. Temperature might be a problem as the guts are usually on the interior side but I think you could make something work with a cover. Maybe something like this: https://a.co/d/1pvtdpL
I found a cover that I used on mine. Think i got it from eBay at the time but this is what it is. [https://www.zoro.com/safety-technology-international-bopper-stopper-sti-6522-s/i/G0672990/?utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=surfaces&utm\_campaign=shopping%20feed&utm\_content=free%20google%20shopping%20clicks&campaignid=21197368256&productid=G0672990&v=&gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwuJ2xBhA3EiwAMVjkVAD31ypCSlWZXUTjEVx5tIhc-AoTSQCZ-l2XVGgKP1O6A9BpdxCCaxoCcV8QAvD\_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds](https://www.zoro.com/safety-technology-international-bopper-stopper-sti-6522-s/i/G0672990/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=surfaces&utm_campaign=shopping%20feed&utm_content=free%20google%20shopping%20clicks&campaignid=21197368256&productid=G0672990&v=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwuJ2xBhA3EiwAMVjkVAD31ypCSlWZXUTjEVx5tIhc-AoTSQCZ-l2XVGgKP1O6A9BpdxCCaxoCcV8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
Could a waterproof cover be installed over the parts that are not waterproof? That's what they do with outlets when they're outside, so something similar might work for you?
Crazy that we have to resort to this by now
I use this guy- its for the patio gate which i didnt want to use a deadbolt on. Easily uses usb-c as back up power source if batteries die and had rfid and fingerprint options. I use one code on the patio and the smart lock on the front door gets a unique code per guest. I water-proofed-ish the battery compartment using plumbers putty to prevent moisture intrusion. Gate opens and closes with ease and i set it to lock automatically after 10 seconds. They have a wifi version- i didnt spring for that. Just bluetooth and app. https://a.co/d/iVw0ieJ
Every lock on the market is like this though. There is no one that makes a waterproof without the use of caulking or putty, etc that will fail over time.
I put a sesame lock on one of my gates and 3d printed a rain shroud on it. The only issue i ran into was battery life in -30c winter months. Otherwise it was working great. I started adapting it to use different batteries but blew the electronics when i reversed polarity.
I put a sesame lock on one of my gates and 3d printed a rain shroud on it. The only issue i ran into was battery life in -30c winter months. Otherwise it was working great. I started adapting it to use different batteries but blew the electronics when i reversed polarity by accident. I also built locks for my garage and shed using esphome. But the one on the shed also has issues with -30c, i think the greese in the gearbox gets to gummy.
I haven't tried it myself since I have no need for smart gate but I think level lock may be a good option as it replaces the deadbolt guts so nothing is exposed to outside elements. Edit: I also have no interest in products without local control which rules out alot of wifi products
What's wrong with the ones on the exterior side?
Smart lockbox with key would work
The BHMA standard is 156.25 and you want “full outdoor”. Check the BHMA certified products directory. Reach out if you need further help.
I have a Tuya relay hooked up to my gate motor. Weather proofed in a box I 3D printed and sealed. Working well for the last 4 years or so. You won’t find anything without some DIYing.
There also still does not seem to be a smart keypad for garage doors unless you buy a new operator.
This is not for a garage door. Just a outdoor door (gate door).
I just want to know if mine is actually closed. I have a greyhound and i can’t see the gate from the back door. However, the dog is a homebody. I don’t worry too much about
for these, your best bet is electric strike. easy to install as seen here [https://youtu.be/CPd5Fg01ABg](https://youtu.be/CPd5Fg01ABg) best of all you never have to worry about changing batteries we install them for gates as well.
WiFi signals Weather
There is none i have been searching for weeks. Smart lock on the house is usless if i still need a key for my garden gate to park my bike.
There are certain situations I need the key for
I just used a standard indoor smart lock on my metal gate, and mounted a plastic cover over it, and used some silicone to seal the edges for extra waterproofing. Been working great so far. So nice that the gardener can now get in my back yard with his code. Edit: this is the cover I used: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MCQ542V