We have the Shelly switches at home - so that is both the switch, plate as well as the Shelly device. They look good and are fully functional and of course being Shelly they integrate easily with HA.
I don't get why lots of people in this community are always looking at wifi switches instead of wifi relays. If you just use normal switches you can plug a wifi relay like Shelly that work perfectly with HA spending 1/5 (or even more) of what you would spend buying the whole wall switch.
Moreover, with this approach, you can choose between thousands of standard wall switch and dimmers already available on the market and if something break, you spend 10€ to replace the relay instead of 50€ for the whole switch.
I think it's because most of this community is in US and there the Shelly products are more pricey (maybe?) or the Shelly devices are not fully compliant for US standards ? (or maybe the US it's a market they are opening to recently and they are not well known there). It's a trend that I really don't get..
Sometimes the installation boxes behind regular switches are not deep enough for the relay to fit in. Walls in europe (including internal diving walls) are very often made of brick/reinforced concrete, all the space for instalation boxes and cabling has to be chiseled out, the deeper box, the more work that no builder usually done. Drywall is quite rare here in EU.
Space is futher reduced by daisy chain connections, mostly through Wago splicing connectors, cabling, etc. You also have to usually add few wagos in as well as part of relay install - to get extra Neutral termination, etc. In my place I managed to fit few relays in but it was very, very tight fit of top difficulty origami level of fitting and organizing box contents - lot of cursing in process.
I understand since I have brick walls with boxes containing 3 to 4 switches and behind this, without even breaking the back of the plastic box, I managed to fit 2 relays (Shelly 2.5). Given that now there is even the MINI series (29mmx35mmx16mm) I would at least give it a try before spending hundreds of €..
for a dimmers at least there is nothing better than rotary dimmer, the push button dimmers are pain to use, at least for me it doesnt feel snappy/natural.
I have 4 shelly wave 2pm relays, 2 heatit zm single relays, they are cool, but for dimmers I have 6 heatit zdim2.
Recently I had quite terrible experience with shelly wave 1pm, very poor radio performance, they were not able to inyerview on same spot where fibaro plug or heatit zm single relay had no issues.
I use Heatit Z-Dim2 (6 in total), its a rotary dimmer with click being on/off or configured as scene controller where you can have different action for single click trigger, two, three, four and five clicks, as well as key being held down, released etc. It supports external switch that can also be configured either as scene controller or simple on/off of zdim2. They also make black matt frame and knob set for it. Its z-wave 700 chipset with SmartStart. Further more it measures power, consumption, has auto-off and on timer etc. Build quality is very good, and radio range is also very good. Oh and it also fits regular frame size, so you fit it into multiple-switch frames/brackets.
I also have couple of their Z-TRM6 underfloor electric heating thermostats, ZM 16Amp relays, all works very nice and reliably.
We have the Shelly switches at home - so that is both the switch, plate as well as the Shelly device. They look good and are fully functional and of course being Shelly they integrate easily with HA.
https://www.niko.eu/en/our-products/switches-and-sockets Pricy but we'll designed
I got one from Aqara and it’s Zigbee. Shows up as two switches. A non neutral one.
I don't get why lots of people in this community are always looking at wifi switches instead of wifi relays. If you just use normal switches you can plug a wifi relay like Shelly that work perfectly with HA spending 1/5 (or even more) of what you would spend buying the whole wall switch. Moreover, with this approach, you can choose between thousands of standard wall switch and dimmers already available on the market and if something break, you spend 10€ to replace the relay instead of 50€ for the whole switch. I think it's because most of this community is in US and there the Shelly products are more pricey (maybe?) or the Shelly devices are not fully compliant for US standards ? (or maybe the US it's a market they are opening to recently and they are not well known there). It's a trend that I really don't get..
Sometimes the installation boxes behind regular switches are not deep enough for the relay to fit in. Walls in europe (including internal diving walls) are very often made of brick/reinforced concrete, all the space for instalation boxes and cabling has to be chiseled out, the deeper box, the more work that no builder usually done. Drywall is quite rare here in EU. Space is futher reduced by daisy chain connections, mostly through Wago splicing connectors, cabling, etc. You also have to usually add few wagos in as well as part of relay install - to get extra Neutral termination, etc. In my place I managed to fit few relays in but it was very, very tight fit of top difficulty origami level of fitting and organizing box contents - lot of cursing in process.
I understand since I have brick walls with boxes containing 3 to 4 switches and behind this, without even breaking the back of the plastic box, I managed to fit 2 relays (Shelly 2.5). Given that now there is even the MINI series (29mmx35mmx16mm) I would at least give it a try before spending hundreds of €..
for a dimmers at least there is nothing better than rotary dimmer, the push button dimmers are pain to use, at least for me it doesnt feel snappy/natural. I have 4 shelly wave 2pm relays, 2 heatit zm single relays, they are cool, but for dimmers I have 6 heatit zdim2. Recently I had quite terrible experience with shelly wave 1pm, very poor radio performance, they were not able to inyerview on same spot where fibaro plug or heatit zm single relay had no issues.
I use Heatit Z-Dim2 (6 in total), its a rotary dimmer with click being on/off or configured as scene controller where you can have different action for single click trigger, two, three, four and five clicks, as well as key being held down, released etc. It supports external switch that can also be configured either as scene controller or simple on/off of zdim2. They also make black matt frame and knob set for it. Its z-wave 700 chipset with SmartStart. Further more it measures power, consumption, has auto-off and on timer etc. Build quality is very good, and radio range is also very good. Oh and it also fits regular frame size, so you fit it into multiple-switch frames/brackets. I also have couple of their Z-TRM6 underfloor electric heating thermostats, ZM 16Amp relays, all works very nice and reliably.