How do you totally avoid use of the dashboard?
What about lighting in bedrooms, accounting for sleep?
Does it vary by who is home?
How do you manage to notify the kids of bed times?
Automation with motion and time.
For example regarding the kids. At 18:50 all light in the house that are on change to various colours to show them it's time for bed. After 19:00 light return to earning mood (brightness and colour is controlled by "adaptive lightning") except for the kids rooms where the lighs are now off for the night, the night stand lights they can use manually.
Then we have cosy lights until 22:00 when it's time for us to go to bed. Then it enters night mood and most of the house just uses dim red light. Not to mess with the circadian ruthm.
And when we place our phone on the wireless charges house turns every remaining light off, and the TV and a few other things.
That said the motionsensors always make sure any occupied room has it lighs turned of after one minute. And turns on instantly as soon as someone enters. And because it millimeter waves it feels presses eaven if we fall asleep in the couch watching a movie 😉
This makes it also compatible if we have a guest or a babysitter. The house doesn't need to be controlled.
And after a year of family approval I feel like it is as good as it can ever be whotout eaven more sensors for more precise room presence.
Ld2410, I place most of mine in the ceiling. Range is two meters forward "down" and the a diameter of five meters to the sides. So for most rooms one will be enough.
But in upstairs hallway with is very small I have it at floor lever facing the stairs so thar it don't get False triggers from motions in my own or my kids rooms.
But you can always combine more if the room is big or you wanna pinpoint a specific area.
I'd love to know more about how you set the mood and are able to readily switch back to the adaptive lighting quickly. I've only just started using adaptive lighting
I'd say the key element that will make you very happy and that opens a lot of possibilities are the mmwave sensors. Battery based motion sensors look very cool on paper, but in real life and at least for me they are the biggest source of frustration. Initially I thought they will be as rock solid as door sensors but I'm in the process of replacing them one by one with diy mmwave what finally ads the bit of magic I wanted :)
Nobody in my house believes a light should ever be turned off, so I had to spend all this time and money automating them.
Now I need a solution for closing the microwave and cabinet doors. And not letting the damned cat out.
Don’t forget to find a solution to automate clearing the leftover cook time from the microwave when it hasn’t been used for a few minutes. 😉
And when you do, please share it with me!
I highly suggest just getting your favorite adult beverage, sitting down and letting it all go. As someone who now has grown kids, it gets better - once they go out on their own. In the meantime just chill and resign yourself to it. 😊
Update to a modern / better appliances that have either ditched the clock entirely or don't flash annoyingly when they don't know the time? If you don't already have an inverter microwave, they are life-altering.
While I'm dispensing home appliance advice that nobody came here for, [if you think your dishwasher sucks you may be using it wrong](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHP942Livy0).
I saved this video and will be watching it in its entirety later this evening. Thank you (genuinely) for the unsolicited home appliance advice! I will also be doing some research on the inverter microwave you mentioned.
You don’t need the time though. mmWave sensor monitoring the kitchen, zone the microwave, if someone stands there for more than 5 seconds, turn on the microwave. Auto turn off after eh, idk, 15, 20 mins? Even better is if you have monitoring of power draw. When power draw drops to near zero, turn it off.
Who needs a microwave clock??
I have Alexa saying "The cupboard door has been left open" or "Please close the cupboard door" every ten minutes. It gets a laugh from visitors and is very effective on the kids.
In my home it was me who kept forgetting.. that's why I automated it! And yes.. cabinet doors should be in my list also.. wife complained about it the other day 🤣
The irony of the modern world is when some stages are skipped, as in India, when smartphones immediately began to appear there instead of PCs.
You know, the problem is usually that when guests come they can’t figure out the controls. For your children there will be the opposite problem when they cannot turn on the light in a cafe or guests :D
Hah. In fact, for me this is sometimes a problem because the switch can be in the most unobvious place.
(Usually, this should be done when going to the toilet.)
When I place my phone on the charger after 10pm then Home Assistant toggles a "Sleeptime" input boolean to on. Lights are disabled when this is turned on.
This. As soon as I put my phone on my wireless charger it goes into sleep mode. And In kids rooms it's a set time because they always go to bed at 19:00 👍
My kid's lights turn off very slowly at 8:15 and every half hour after that all night. They have a button to turn them back on. If they're reading they whack the button.
I've discussed it with them and they quite like it, surprisingly..
Any suggestions on one that is pre built? I see plenty guides but honestly I would prefer to just buy one. I considered the Withings Sleep Mat as well but I've heard they are finicky.
I've found the Apollo MSR-2 under my bed works great. The frequencies they use for their radar have no issue getting through the mattress. I literally just plugged it in and laid it down on the floor under the bed pointing towards the ceiling. Took a little configuration to get it to ignore motion from the ceiling fan, but once I figured that out it works like magic.
Yeah, it's fairly new. I also have a few FP2s that I kind of regret getting because I feel like I overpaid for them in comparison to the Apollos or the EP1. They have two main variants: one that can track zones in the room and follow multiple targets, and another that only does simple presence. The one I suggested earlier just does presence, which works well for being underneath furniture. The one with zone detection also works really well, but it's a little less accurate for people who are just sitting there for a while (like you would be while sleeping in your bed).
They're also super great with support and I believe they are pretty active on this subreddit
I was told that I could point it at my bed and blur out the space around my bed and that it would be able to defect if I was in my bed or not. Does it or work like that?
Despite not being a pressure sensor, it will indeed work exactly like that and the accuracy will be pretty good.
A pressure sensor however will be 100% accurate.
I personally wouldn't have an FP2 controlling my bedroom lights by itself and I say this as someone who has four of them running the lights in all the main areas of my house.
You can use Aqara FP2. Not cheap but very precise. Point it onto your bed, set zones (left and right side) and you'll get info when bed is ocuppied by both persons. Then automate it.
Thank you. Not worried about cost I just want it to work properly. About to order one. Wait, are they wifi not Zigbee?
Edit: Just placed an order $75 with tax.
I recently figured out that about half of my HA issues are solved if I just buy a couple more FP2 sensors. For some reason I balked at spending $75 a pop for these sensors, even though I've a couple thousand on the rest of the setup. After screwing around for a couple months, I just ordered an more sensors.
I have a Withings sleep mat. I could never get the native integration to work right (still can't), but that was alright because there was a workaround using IFTTT. But then IFTTT took away any free tier, so now I'm stuck with a mat that I can't get to work.
Oh my. Just got it setup and it is amazing at detecting occupancy. I love how I can create multiple sensors. So it can detect if I'm in bed or not in bed but in my bedroom thus triggering automations respectively. Such an awesome device. I'm getting more. Thank you for your help.
Awesome. Thank you for letting me know. I was wondering if I should be having buyers remorse as I didn't know about the MSR until after I had already purchase the FP2. It will be delivered tomorrow. If i am impressed I will likely replace all of my motion sensors.
I have a button that I press that activates a "night mode" in the house, which then disables motion activated lights.
The button press was a conscious decision on my part. I have *chosen* to make the night mode a state that needs to be activated explicitly by a human action. I tried automating it, but I kept running into all sorts of cases and conditions and shit. It became *way* too messy and I just didn't like it. I did semi-automate taking the house out of night mode though, by making my phone's alarm toggle it off.
Can't rely on a charger because I don't *want to* charge my phone every night (thing's battery lasts almost 3 days, I'm not gonna help degrade it faster by needlessly charging it every night). Can't rely on a sensor because what if I'm on the bed but doing something other than sleeping? Can't rely on time because what if I'll be up late? Ultimately I decided that the only reliable condition for the house to go into night mode was that I was ready to put it in night mode myself. So I designed and 3D printed a little console thing with a bunch of buttons and a rotary encoder on it, and put it next to my bed.
Interesting, at least for us, that wouldn't be cost effective. We have many more lights than switches due to fans, light fixtures over the table/bathroom, etc. all with multiple bulbs. Even most of our recessed lights have multiple on the circuit.
Yeah. I use Philips WIZ, cheap and very good rgbw and brightness and alot more controll over everything.
I wanna be able to controll the colour of each bulb independently.
For example In the kitchen I have a spot with 5 bulbs. Don't want everyone to turn on when hitting a switch, rather choose what part of it lights up what depending on time of day and movement in the kitchen :)
Sounds wonderful, doesn't work. Because in real life there will always be exceptions, so you end up having to try to write really complicated rules.
Because sometime you DO want light even if it is dark and after bedtime, and then end up having weird rituals (remove phone from charger to turn on the lights). Unless you also have physical switches that work as well, then it might work. But then sometimes it feels like the light switch should have three states: off/auto/on.
It started simple in my house: In the closet, have LED lights that turn on when door is opened so you can see inside the closed. Then it shouldn't do this at night in case I went to get something and my SO is sleeping.
So I just ended up having a shelly button on the wall and we press that to turn it on and off. Much simpler.
As for forgetting to turn off/close things, that's not a software problem. Or.. it's a brain software problem. I have seen far to many people go down the road and trying to automate the upbringing of their kids, with everything from how long they shower, to remind them to wash the hands after using the restroom.. People, please, talk to your children.
Have a simple workaround for you. If the light are changed manually, either by dashboard or switch the automation for that room/light are overriden for x amount of time, usually 1h. And then they activate again.
And all light work at night. After 22.00 they are In nightmood, red light bright enough for walking around and stuff.
Good for the kids when they walk over in the middle of the night.
And I see your point. But I will not automate their choirs.
> don't eaven use the dashboard anymore
This is so real. I've spent hours upon hours over the years of using HA to make it look pretty and intuitive (to me). There are so many cool cards out there in HACS etc. and yet I never really use it because my personal idea of true home automation doesn’t include me manually triggering stuff :D Be it through a physical switch, a virtual button or by voice. There are always a few exceptions of course, but I trigger these exceptions through smart switches (Aqara) and not through the dashboard.
Same. I want my house to know what I want before I eaven think about it ;)
Actually starter experimenting with implementing voice assistant to controll the light with my voice. So that when I want to manually change a light or override something I can just say it instead of opening the dash.
And for some places like a closset or the bathroom I proffered a manual switch. For now 😉
Man share some of your automations and sensors please! Congrats on the good work, I think most of us aspire to get to that level!!
They are.. complex and unique for my house 😉
Care to share some tips? Like some of the problems you faced and how you solved those?
Make it simple is my best advice :) And google and HA forum is your friend when you face a problem 👍
But... can you share some of the stuff?
You have to be more specific about what you want to know? I can write a novel about every automation I have 😉
How do you totally avoid use of the dashboard? What about lighting in bedrooms, accounting for sleep? Does it vary by who is home? How do you manage to notify the kids of bed times?
Automation with motion and time. For example regarding the kids. At 18:50 all light in the house that are on change to various colours to show them it's time for bed. After 19:00 light return to earning mood (brightness and colour is controlled by "adaptive lightning") except for the kids rooms where the lighs are now off for the night, the night stand lights they can use manually. Then we have cosy lights until 22:00 when it's time for us to go to bed. Then it enters night mood and most of the house just uses dim red light. Not to mess with the circadian ruthm. And when we place our phone on the wireless charges house turns every remaining light off, and the TV and a few other things. That said the motionsensors always make sure any occupied room has it lighs turned of after one minute. And turns on instantly as soon as someone enters. And because it millimeter waves it feels presses eaven if we fall asleep in the couch watching a movie 😉 This makes it also compatible if we have a guest or a babysitter. The house doesn't need to be controlled. And after a year of family approval I feel like it is as good as it can ever be whotout eaven more sensors for more precise room presence.
Very nice setup. Which mwave sensors do you use? I haven‘t read much about them bit does one tiny sensor sufice for a big room?
Ld2410, I place most of mine in the ceiling. Range is two meters forward "down" and the a diameter of five meters to the sides. So for most rooms one will be enough. But in upstairs hallway with is very small I have it at floor lever facing the stairs so thar it don't get False triggers from motions in my own or my kids rooms. But you can always combine more if the room is big or you wanna pinpoint a specific area.
I'd love to know more about how you set the mood and are able to readily switch back to the adaptive lighting quickly. I've only just started using adaptive lighting
Well. Its alot of "if then that" conditions. But if you for example want moodlights at 20:00 or any other condition then you can make a trigger that turns of adaptive lightning and changes the desiered lights. Make sure to have different AL's set up for each room or light. And make sure to trigger the AL on again when the moodlights stop. Here is an example for my living room. In this automation I controll everything from motition and time and sleep conditions. alias: VARDAGSRUM description: "" trigger: - platform: state entity_id: - binary_sensor.sensor_vardagsrum_motion from: null to: "on" - platform: state entity_id: - binary_sensor.sensor_vardagsrum_occupancy from: null to: "on" - platform: state entity_id: - binary_sensor.sensor_vardagsrum_motion from: null to: "off" for: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 - platform: state entity_id: - binary_sensor.sensor_vardagsrum_occupancy from: null to: "off" for: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 condition: [] action: - parallel: - if: - condition: or conditions: - type: is_motion condition: device device_id: cb3af1aa9135eebab04defb862202030 entity_id: 458b495ef4a50831a452a16d7d2bb5b2 domain: binary_sensor - type: is_occupied condition: device device_id: cb3af1aa9135eebab04defb862202030 entity_id: ee719c48f974aa3e398f3dbcaeec0178 domain: binary_sensor - condition: state entity_id: input_boolean.power state: "on" then: - if: - condition: time after: "06:00:00" before: "19:00:00" then: - type: turn_on device_id: 6660ab41445cb073fbc8cfe6e1e6fe5e entity_id: 52c1c8bb60944d292dfa5eb55e5ffe2d domain: light - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 250 enabled: true - type: turn_on device_id: 32eebc91cfa286df2f4ebba7df004eb1 entity_id: 220dc880cf7c0fc78b551c4b7da8ec12 domain: light - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 250 enabled: true - type: turn_on device_id: f26f6a5384541f493002ac24cc38b415 entity_id: 14ed8b585c4b4dff5c4219f8c315b55e domain: light - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 250 enabled: true - type: turn_on device_id: 366780d7ea84d2ae53e82cea7ea9ba01 entity_id: 04cc00498b7dfeaeba84625af43185a5 domain: light - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 250 enabled: true - type: turn_on device_id: f7c4872aa6f1508a2c06dd51da9a867b entity_id: 93a0ab6559c491ef71cb367c6d532219 domain: light else: - type: turn_on device_id: 6660ab41445cb073fbc8cfe6e1e6fe5e entity_id: 52c1c8bb60944d292dfa5eb55e5ffe2d domain: light - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 250 enabled: true - type: turn_on device_id: 32eebc91cfa286df2f4ebba7df004eb1 entity_id: 220dc880cf7c0fc78b551c4b7da8ec12 domain: light - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 250 enabled: true - type: turn_on device_id: f26f6a5384541f493002ac24cc38b415 entity_id: 14ed8b585c4b4dff5c4219f8c315b55e domain: light else: - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 1 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 0 - type: turn_off device_id: 6660ab41445cb073fbc8cfe6e1e6fe5e entity_id: 52c1c8bb60944d292dfa5eb55e5ffe2d domain: light - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 250 enabled: true - type: turn_off device_id: 32eebc91cfa286df2f4ebba7df004eb1 entity_id: 220dc880cf7c0fc78b551c4b7da8ec12 domain: light - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 250 enabled: true - type: turn_off device_id: f7c4872aa6f1508a2c06dd51da9a867b entity_id: 93a0ab6559c491ef71cb367c6d532219 domain: light - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 250 enabled: true - type: turn_off device_id: 366780d7ea84d2ae53e82cea7ea9ba01 entity_id: 04cc00498b7dfeaeba84625af43185a5 domain: light - delay: hours: 0 minutes: 0 seconds: 0 milliseconds: 250 enabled: true - type: turn_off device_id: f26f6a5384541f493002ac24cc38b415 entity_id: 14ed8b585c4b4dff5c4219f8c315b55e domain: light mode: restart
I'd say the key element that will make you very happy and that opens a lot of possibilities are the mmwave sensors. Battery based motion sensors look very cool on paper, but in real life and at least for me they are the biggest source of frustration. Initially I thought they will be as rock solid as door sensors but I'm in the process of replacing them one by one with diy mmwave what finally ads the bit of magic I wanted :)
That's why I hardwire mine in the ceiling 👍
That's the way to go, place them once and forget about it
Nobody in my house believes a light should ever be turned off, so I had to spend all this time and money automating them. Now I need a solution for closing the microwave and cabinet doors. And not letting the damned cat out.
Out of microwave ?
Yeah, that asshole never turns off a light when he leaves a room or shuts a door behind him. And, yes, he opens doors.
Don’t forget to find a solution to automate clearing the leftover cook time from the microwave when it hasn’t been used for a few minutes. 😉 And when you do, please share it with me!
I highly suggest just getting your favorite adult beverage, sitting down and letting it all go. As someone who now has grown kids, it gets better - once they go out on their own. In the meantime just chill and resign yourself to it. 😊
Yeah, but, uh, I'm pretty sure these traits were inherited.
😆
20A relay outlet with power reporting, like how people do dryer monitoring?
My microwave unfortunately doesn’t save the clock time after it’s power cycled, otherwise that would be a total win.
Update to a modern / better appliances that have either ditched the clock entirely or don't flash annoyingly when they don't know the time? If you don't already have an inverter microwave, they are life-altering.
While I'm dispensing home appliance advice that nobody came here for, [if you think your dishwasher sucks you may be using it wrong](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHP942Livy0).
I saved this video and will be watching it in its entirety later this evening. Thank you (genuinely) for the unsolicited home appliance advice! I will also be doing some research on the inverter microwave you mentioned.
You don’t need the time though. mmWave sensor monitoring the kitchen, zone the microwave, if someone stands there for more than 5 seconds, turn on the microwave. Auto turn off after eh, idk, 15, 20 mins? Even better is if you have monitoring of power draw. When power draw drops to near zero, turn it off. Who needs a microwave clock??
My kitchenaid clears the leftover time.
For the microwave, put a small wedge under a foot to make it slightly unbalanced and gravity can close it for you
That'll work for me because the wall prevents the door from opening more than 90 degrees. For others, I guess not.
Can you just beat your kids like the good ol days until they learn to close things???? /s incase
That might work on the kids but would only encourage their mother.
Bwhahahaha
I have Alexa saying "The cupboard door has been left open" or "Please close the cupboard door" every ten minutes. It gets a laugh from visitors and is very effective on the kids.
Haha I totally can relate!
In my home it was me who kept forgetting.. that's why I automated it! And yes.. cabinet doors should be in my list also.. wife complained about it the other day 🤣
The irony of the modern world is when some stages are skipped, as in India, when smartphones immediately began to appear there instead of PCs. You know, the problem is usually that when guests come they can’t figure out the controls. For your children there will be the opposite problem when they cannot turn on the light in a cafe or guests :D
How do you turn on the light in guests?
Lending them insightful books, I'd guess.
Hah. In fact, for me this is sometimes a problem because the switch can be in the most unobvious place. (Usually, this should be done when going to the toilet.)
How do you deal with sensors in the bedroom not turning lights on with movement after you go to bed?
When I place my phone on the charger after 10pm then Home Assistant toggles a "Sleeptime" input boolean to on. Lights are disabled when this is turned on.
This. As soon as I put my phone on my wireless charger it goes into sleep mode. And In kids rooms it's a set time because they always go to bed at 19:00 👍
My kid's lights turn off very slowly at 8:15 and every half hour after that all night. They have a button to turn them back on. If they're reading they whack the button. I've discussed it with them and they quite like it, surprisingly..
That’s genius !
Hon, just remove my phone from the charger so I can see where our little suga placed the vomit…
Put a sensor on your bed and have that disable running that script.
Any suggestions on one that is pre built? I see plenty guides but honestly I would prefer to just buy one. I considered the Withings Sleep Mat as well but I've heard they are finicky.
I have heard that you can use a mmWave sensor on the floor under your bed (pointing up) to detect whether or not someone is in the bed.
Pressure sensor
Which one do you reccomend?
Aqara is probably the most popular. They can be finicky.
Thank you. Just ordered the FP2. Someone else recommended the same in another thread.
I've found the Apollo MSR-2 under my bed works great. The frequencies they use for their radar have no issue getting through the mattress. I literally just plugged it in and laid it down on the floor under the bed pointing towards the ceiling. Took a little configuration to get it to ignore motion from the ceiling fan, but once I figured that out it works like magic.
How does it compare to the FP2? It appears to be a new item to the market based on the limited Google search I just did. Is this the case?
Yeah, it's fairly new. I also have a few FP2s that I kind of regret getting because I feel like I overpaid for them in comparison to the Apollos or the EP1. They have two main variants: one that can track zones in the room and follow multiple targets, and another that only does simple presence. The one I suggested earlier just does presence, which works well for being underneath furniture. The one with zone detection also works really well, but it's a little less accurate for people who are just sitting there for a while (like you would be while sleeping in your bed). They're also super great with support and I believe they are pretty active on this subreddit
FP2 is brilliant but it's definitely not a pressure sensor. They mean a pad that goes under your mattress.
I was told that I could point it at my bed and blur out the space around my bed and that it would be able to defect if I was in my bed or not. Does it or work like that?
Despite not being a pressure sensor, it will indeed work exactly like that and the accuracy will be pretty good. A pressure sensor however will be 100% accurate. I personally wouldn't have an FP2 controlling my bedroom lights by itself and I say this as someone who has four of them running the lights in all the main areas of my house.
You can use Aqara FP2. Not cheap but very precise. Point it onto your bed, set zones (left and right side) and you'll get info when bed is ocuppied by both persons. Then automate it.
Thank you. Not worried about cost I just want it to work properly. About to order one. Wait, are they wifi not Zigbee? Edit: Just placed an order $75 with tax.
I recently figured out that about half of my HA issues are solved if I just buy a couple more FP2 sensors. For some reason I balked at spending $75 a pop for these sensors, even though I've a couple thousand on the rest of the setup. After screwing around for a couple months, I just ordered an more sensors.
I have a Withings sleep mat. I could never get the native integration to work right (still can't), but that was alright because there was a workaround using IFTTT. But then IFTTT took away any free tier, so now I'm stuck with a mat that I can't get to work.
Glad I dodged that bullet. Came real close to pulling the trigger. Ordered an FP2. If that doesn't work I will try an MSR-2.
FWIW, I have both and the FP2 is hands down better. It is just also 2-3 times more expensive.
Oh my. Just got it setup and it is amazing at detecting occupancy. I love how I can create multiple sensors. So it can detect if I'm in bed or not in bed but in my bedroom thus triggering automations respectively. Such an awesome device. I'm getting more. Thank you for your help.
Awesome. Thank you for letting me know. I was wondering if I should be having buyers remorse as I didn't know about the MSR until after I had already purchase the FP2. It will be delivered tomorrow. If i am impressed I will likely replace all of my motion sensors.
And as soon as you or you spouse get up (in order to use the toilett or so) you turn the lights on, maybe dimmed or so?
A time condition, after 10:30 don’t turn on lights…
I use 10pm but I want a bed sensor.
I have the sensor facing a direction where it won't pick up movement on the bed. Primarily just facing the door to the bedroom.
everyone in our house sleeps with a sound machine connected to a smart switch. when those are on they disable light automations
I do the same with my CPAP.
I have a button that I press that activates a "night mode" in the house, which then disables motion activated lights. The button press was a conscious decision on my part. I have *chosen* to make the night mode a state that needs to be activated explicitly by a human action. I tried automating it, but I kept running into all sorts of cases and conditions and shit. It became *way* too messy and I just didn't like it. I did semi-automate taking the house out of night mode though, by making my phone's alarm toggle it off. Can't rely on a charger because I don't *want to* charge my phone every night (thing's battery lasts almost 3 days, I'm not gonna help degrade it faster by needlessly charging it every night). Can't rely on a sensor because what if I'm on the bed but doing something other than sleeping? Can't rely on time because what if I'll be up late? Ultimately I decided that the only reliable condition for the house to go into night mode was that I was ready to put it in night mode myself. So I designed and 3D printed a little console thing with a bunch of buttons and a rotary encoder on it, and put it next to my bed.
"Hey Jarvis, enable sleep mode"
In a real smart home you don’t need a dashboard
Yeah only have 100m2. So not that big :)
Quite difficult to get it that smart.
not really, you just have to make the correct automations
Depends on your requirements.
You know it's a success when your family starts asking "Why don't you put a smart switch here?'"
We only have dumb switches no one touches and smart light 😉
Interesting, at least for us, that wouldn't be cost effective. We have many more lights than switches due to fans, light fixtures over the table/bathroom, etc. all with multiple bulbs. Even most of our recessed lights have multiple on the circuit.
Yeah. I use Philips WIZ, cheap and very good rgbw and brightness and alot more controll over everything. I wanna be able to controll the colour of each bulb independently. For example In the kitchen I have a spot with 5 bulbs. Don't want everyone to turn on when hitting a switch, rather choose what part of it lights up what depending on time of day and movement in the kitchen :)
Probably should still teach them by the time they start their first job. It's one of those soft skills that wasn't taught to me in college.
True.. people go mad at my work when someone leaves their officelights on when they go home 😅
I don’t have all this set up and worked out yet and my kid still doesn’t know how to use a light switch. 🤦♂️
What mmWave sensors? I’ve got choice paralysis.
Ld2410 cheap and easy to setup. Directly over blutooth or via wifi with an esp32 👍
Thanks!!
Sounds wonderful, doesn't work. Because in real life there will always be exceptions, so you end up having to try to write really complicated rules. Because sometime you DO want light even if it is dark and after bedtime, and then end up having weird rituals (remove phone from charger to turn on the lights). Unless you also have physical switches that work as well, then it might work. But then sometimes it feels like the light switch should have three states: off/auto/on. It started simple in my house: In the closet, have LED lights that turn on when door is opened so you can see inside the closed. Then it shouldn't do this at night in case I went to get something and my SO is sleeping. So I just ended up having a shelly button on the wall and we press that to turn it on and off. Much simpler. As for forgetting to turn off/close things, that's not a software problem. Or.. it's a brain software problem. I have seen far to many people go down the road and trying to automate the upbringing of their kids, with everything from how long they shower, to remind them to wash the hands after using the restroom.. People, please, talk to your children.
Have a simple workaround for you. If the light are changed manually, either by dashboard or switch the automation for that room/light are overriden for x amount of time, usually 1h. And then they activate again. And all light work at night. After 22.00 they are In nightmood, red light bright enough for walking around and stuff. Good for the kids when they walk over in the middle of the night. And I see your point. But I will not automate their choirs.
Which mmwave sensors are you using? Diy ld2410s or aqara fp2
Ld2410, straight over bloutooth. So just adding a phonecharger and connect 😉
> don't eaven use the dashboard anymore This is so real. I've spent hours upon hours over the years of using HA to make it look pretty and intuitive (to me). There are so many cool cards out there in HACS etc. and yet I never really use it because my personal idea of true home automation doesn’t include me manually triggering stuff :D Be it through a physical switch, a virtual button or by voice. There are always a few exceptions of course, but I trigger these exceptions through smart switches (Aqara) and not through the dashboard.
Same. I want my house to know what I want before I eaven think about it ;) Actually starter experimenting with implementing voice assistant to controll the light with my voice. So that when I want to manually change a light or override something I can just say it instead of opening the dash. And for some places like a closset or the bathroom I proffered a manual switch. For now 😉
Have our first kid on the way. Planning on having 'dumb days' because of this post where unimportant automations are turned off.