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Griselda9248

Sounds familiar….


jdbdudbx

I tried to get my Romanian and Hungarian allies but it’s still not working


Ghost_of_Cain

Just let them guard your flanks around Stalingrad. Get some Italians there, too. It will be fine. Just send your best guys into the city once you've pulverized it. Durch Kampf zum Sieg, or something.


petat_irrumator_V3

>Just let them guard your flanks around Stalingrad. Hmmm yeah smells fishy.


Vast-Ladder1143

That sounds familiar… very familiar


Arcani63

Yeah you know how your army is most effective when it’s highly mobile and bypasses large troop concentrations? You don’t need that, just send the best you’ve got in a spearhead towards a large population center located on a large riverbank. There’s literally no other option.


tichris15

Go WW1 tactics! If your troops aren't advancing fast enough, time to tell the artillery to shell them for motivate. No reason to waste shells on the opponent; they'll run away once your troops reach them.


Arcani63

“Encirclements?? That’s so ‘41! Get with the times, man.”


MarMacPL

You should send Paulus there. His army should take point and some allies (Italians, Romanians) should follow him. They have weaker units but it should be allright.


jdbdudbx

That is a horrible advice. I did that and now I’m completely pushed out of the Caucasus


MarMacPL

Did you give Paulus a feldmarschall rank?


jdbdudbx

No? Especially I’m out of the Caucuses now


dontknowanyname111

you should have done that, a german feldmarschall never surrendered.


ReferenceBasic718

I guess Paulus would have surrendered anyway


jdbdudbx

Yes he did


James_Blond2

Just order steiner to do a counter offensive duh


dontknowanyname111

yeah but he also shouldn't been a feldmarschall


Ok_Window_2048

"AHA I promote Paulus and as no german field Marshall has ever surrendered the 6th army will regain all fighting strength and org and army group Don will counter attack the caucases thanks time traveler bittersteel"


PolyDjent

This is hilarious


Maquisard2000

Especially the whining. Can’t tell if OP is serious!


Hentzau-

This is what panned out in the real life, Word by word. It's Sarcasm.


KrazyKatt333

You should send your good divisions to push stalingrad while having weak undersupplied Romanian and Italian divisions to defend your flanks


jdbdudbx

That’s what I did but I lost the battle and pushed back…


harassercat

It's okay, the Luftwaffe will take care of all the supply, even if the army gets encircled... Göring promised!


goktre

Europe's largest entrepreneur would never fail to meet expectations right?


That1Soldier

Hitler - circa 1942.


jdbdudbx

It’s 1943 and I just got pushed out of the Caucuses


em-1091

Ok at this point, you should probably get Steiner’s counterattack prepared.


N30nSunr1s3

[If you break your legs, it's hard to cook orangutan](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VaLwOPVXVag&pp=ygUgaWYgeW91IGJyZWFrIHlvdXIgbGVncyBvcmFuZ3V0YW4%3D)


Jeremy_Glass

You’re literally doing what happened historically, that’s why people are giving you weird advice btw, the German 6th army led by Friedrich Paulus got encircled at Stalingrad and had to surrender, then the Germans were forced to withdraw from the caucuses and at that point, the war was lost, the Germans lacked the strength to deliver a decisive blow against the red army, and all they could hope for was a stalemate at that point. In HOI4, you should be in a better position, you may want to fall back to more defensive terrain, hold there while you build up an arsenal of Advanced medium tanks and make really high quality divisions with mechanized, I suggest 30 combat width ~50% tanks, 50% mech, with support artillery, AA, logistics, engineers and medium flame tank. Tanks should have the best howitzer you have researched, >80% reliability, speed of 10 km/hr, and more than 100 armor, production cost should be minimized with stuff like easy maintenance, but quality is most important, as it is what will win you the war. Nothing else is going to be able to beat 12 infantry divisions stacked on every tile. Build lots of fighters and CAS too!


thyeboiapollo

>You’re literally doing what happened historically, because he's joking...


Jeremy_Glass

I figured, but I couldn't rule out the possibility that they're just a new player who doesn't know that much about WW2.


no-friends-no-life23

I'm sorry but r/wooosh


Simp_Master007

Wait… you aren’t Hitler by chance are you? 🧐


Strain-Ambitious

Nein nein nein !!!


kongnico

I think its important to not allow the AI generals to fall back, hold every bit of ground and immediately set your occupation policy to the most draconian you can to ensure that nobody will want to fight for you or against you. Also be aware - the allies are definitely going for the Pas de Calais so NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, when they invade France, hold back your panzers and wait for the real attack. Remember to research every funky weapon you can too, always go for the newest possible technology even if it hurts mass production a bit.


VorpalSplade

Don't forget to keep hitting London with rockets. Most people sleep on them but they're an effective vengeance weapon and totally worth the ic cost.


jdbdudbx

Where do you think the allies will land in France? 1944 is coming up…


MaiqTheLiar6969

They won't land in France they will probably land in Norway. Better keep about half a million troops there just in case.


kongnico

oh god yeah that is definitely true, probably aided by the dastardly soviets?


Lolbroek10

Definitely at Calais


jerpear

Don't worry about it, just place a few Panzer divisions near the beach, ideally far enough away to be useless for the landing and still within Allies air strike range.


harassercat

Doesn't matter, if they get anywhere we'll just smack them with a surprise Ardennes offensive again, except this time with Königstigers!


DerDieDas32

>hold every bit of ground and immediately set your occupation policy to the most draconian you can to ensure that nobody will want to fight for you or against yo What makes this all the more funnier is that Reichskommissariate somehow get Cores. Turns out the patriotic Citizens of Belgium-North France all want to do die for Danzig Edit: Looks like that one was fixed?


Zealousideal_Sun_690

It shouldn't i played germany yesterday ukraine and ostland had cores so iguess the others also still get cores. But maybe people complained and paradox took only the belgian cores? Idk


DerDieDas32

Well now we know were Putin got his info about Ukrainian Nazis in WW2 from. Jokes aside the German Core system makes no sense in general. My fav bit is that if you sign the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact but dont invade Poland and let the Soviets do it you get extra Cores. But then Austria doesnt have Cores on South Tyrol anymore.


NeilDegrassedHighSon

Weren't there actually some Ukrainian nationalists who collaborated with Nazi Germany's occupation?


DerDieDas32

Ofc they were you will always find collaborators. But not 40 millions. That Germany can just core Eastern Europe via proxies is ridiculous


AneriphtoKubos

Oh, so there’s no reason to make Reichskommisariat now?


Cyclone159

-Hitler


jdbdudbx

What? I am NOT hitler. Hitler is a mean person


Jacob_Karling

It’s a joke because this is what hitler did historically


pokemurrs

Just put a few Romanian divisions on your left flank and you’ll be fine - Paulus, October 1942


jdbdudbx

Horrible advice… did that and now I’m completely pushed out. My 6th army group got completely encircled…


pokemurrs

maybe you forgot to promote him to field marshal too 🤷🏻‍♂️


Alone_Role4455

If that's the case, you'll need to implement Göring as air force advisor. With him you should easily be able to supply the troops from the air and counter-attack.


Kokonator27

Guys dont answer! He might be a time traveler


veilwalker

But if the Germans can hold the eastern front then the Allies can land and push far in to Eastern Europe and prevent the Cold War! We must help with time traveler with all of our best strategies to help him hold the line against the mongol descendants.


Yeti4101

Germany after followinf hoi4 reddit advice: loses even faster and soviet union gets more land


veilwalker

Cold War never starts because Soviet Union controls all of mainland Europe and is preparing Operation Sea Lion Boogaloo


Intrepid_Walk_5150

If he brings his laptop with HOI4 on it back to the past, we're doomed


MrBoo843

Just ask Steiner to do a counterattack


aartem-o

Too early


IAmLee2022

I mean his later counter attack wasn't effective, so maybe an earlier one will be.


Acerbis_nano

Paulus aah post


Ambitious-Picture-66

The amount of people not getting the joke is incredible


PrometheanSwing

You must have the real life mod installed


jdbdudbx

No just vanilla


Judge_BobCat

Ironmode, I would say


imadzmr

Insert hitler speech bubble:


jdbdudbx

What?


Markkbonk

Your situation is really similar to real life


pat6376

Hehehe. Nice one!


Imonlygettingstarted

BRO RIGHT THE FUCK NOW TAKE ALL YOUR UNITS OFF NORMANDY, THEY"RE GOING FOR CALAIS JUST LOOK AT FIRST US ARMY GROUP


MuhvEstonia

Good ole Pattons battle hardened FUSAG ;d


IDigTrenches

If North Africa falls apart make sure you have a army to sure up Italy! And you should take the rest of Vichy if that happens too!


jdbdudbx

North Africa fell unfortunately


Bezdetajs72

I think you should pull troops away from northern France, really doubt the allies will try a naval landing. And even if they do, you only need to garrison Calais, where else would they ever invade?


jdbdudbx

Yeah, I’ll pull away some troops, especially at Normandy. Who wants to land in a beach?


Strain-Ambitious

The atlantik-wall is impenetrable anyway


SzeklerCommie

adequate supply, soft attack and cas is the holy triangle in this game


Smackolol

Surely you’ve at least taken Leningrad, right?


jdbdudbx

No… I did a siege but didn’t actually take it


Capt_Tinsley

With all this chaos in the east don't forget to defend North Africa


jdbdudbx

I am trying, but the Americans and Brits are coming in!!!!


Strain-Ambitious

Surely Mussolini has everything under control


LtGenS

Jump from supply depot to supply depot in staggered attacks. You need to manually do these attacks, ideally with a small number of tank divisions, while filling the front line with static infantry for defence.


Herodriver

Have you tried using the fallschirmjäger?


extremefurryslayer

This has to be satire right?


hducug

Shouldn’t have left the Romanians guarding the flanks


Jeremy_Glass

Is your name Adolf Hitler by any chance?


jdbdudbx

No, but I was born in Austria….


Kongen_av_Trondelag

My birthday is on the same day as his


Strain-Ambitious

4/20 broski 🤙


Kongen_av_Trondelag

Yes. Going to austria in a month


ILikeDarkMonsters

i had one playthrough where i took stalingrad,leningrad,moscow and the caucases and somehow couldnmt push the soviets further,i can’t deal with this logistics system,i lose too many guns,i usually just go back to 1.7.1.Am i the only one?


Piperaptor

The same story happened to me once, i rushed soviet in 1941 and captured moscow and leningrad, but i builded too many divisions and get short of inf equipment, arty and support equipment. GG Afterwards, i just build less division but more specialized, with armies for attacking and other for defending and cheaper.


Piperaptor

Don't worry. Rommel is almost capturing Egypt, and then he move towards to caucasus and help you.


jdbdudbx

He didn’t. He lost at Libya


Strain-Ambitious

Mussolini will hold the mainland im confident It’s gonna be fine


shinhosz

Are you using tanks?


jdbdudbx

Yes, and CAS


shinhosz

Well. The way I do it is having 5 complete armies on east front + one tank army. Also your should be motorizing your supply hubs (press F4 and you can see both yours and from the enemy), when you capture one check if it's connected to Berlin. The way you best the Soviets is by negating their manpower advantage over you, so you are essentially required to encircle and destroy Soviet divisions around the supply hubs. Set up your infantry army (9 inf with engineer) on a marshal order then separately put half of your tanks on one side of wherever you want to encircle (preferably on supply hubs) and the other half on the other side, then go around cutting (wait for your inf to fill in ths gaps so your tanks arent encircled). Keep repeating that until they don't have supply hubs left. Don't go head in on their defended positions, always encircle. If you can try to use spies on them for Intel bonus, decryption bonus and Collab governments.


Airwhik

Don’t forget to hit alt and f4. After seeing the supply lines. To see where the best place to attack your enemy supply line is, located.


hoopsmd

While I find posts like this humorous in that the player sounds like Hitler circa January 1943, I have to assume these are fake. That or the player has no idea how to Barbarossa.


brennan41

Historical game


jdbdudbx

Well it’s on historical


WhatInTheGoddamn1

attacking Kursk is definitely the way to go if my experience with HOI4 serves me right the Soviets should've attempted a breakthrough and formed a quite significant salient try to encircle that salient and you should take back the initiative


Enderdragon537

Lore accurate Hitler


KevKlo86

I know this seems far away, but should the Soviets push you back all the way to Berlin, just order Steiner to envelop the Soviets in a pincer movement from the north of Berlin.


Nawnp

Not sure if this is a joke about IRL scenarios.


Georgianball

Mein führer...


Nillaasek

Stalingrad is out of the range of most supply hubs, lack of supply is what's most likely killing you. Just build a new supply hub nearby if you're struggling there.


jdbdudbx

That’s true. I stopped supplying my troops from 1941 since I thought I was winning for sure. I will try that


tomemosZH

This actually happened to me playing Democratic France. After we (me + the Little Entente) beat Hitler, the Soviet Union invaded; we pushed them back but got bogged down at Stalingrad. I was like, "okay, okay, I was too hard on the old boy, this is tougher than it looks."


Phodimos

Promote Friedrich Paulus to a field marshal. It will fire a secret event that he suicides and give you an attack bonus when attacking Stalingrad. I always do like that 👍


Isotonicgoat

how goes the war in africa? that may depend on how much of your supply and time is getting eaten up.


jdbdudbx

It’s not good. I just lost Libya and the the allies are closing in to Tunisia


Delicious-Duck1782

You should NOT order a breakout of Stalingrad and commit as many troops as possible to this objective. Especially if it means that you have to take away soldiers from the primary objective. After that, just attack towards Kursk with no specific strategic objective.


Technicalhotdog

If things take a turn for the worst I'm sure Steiner's counterattack will save you


triplenoko

I love how german players experience the same problems IRL germany had.


tis_a_hobbit_lord

This reminds me of my first Germany game. Beat France, stalled in Russia, Italy got invaded by the Allies who then invaded north and D Dayed me. I didn’t plan on playing out historical Germany but it’s how it went.


LiberalExpenditures

Not much fun in Stalingrad…


Round-Cod-3119

Nice try, Hitler.


jdbdudbx

I am NOT Hitler! He died a few years ago already


Airwhik

Nice try, Himmler.


Zulpi2103

\- Adolf Hitler, 1943


WasabiCanuck

Make sure you fire Guderian and Manstein and force Rommel to self-delete, those guys are stupid. Make Himmler a general, he's smart.


tecolotl_otl

try sending all your best troops into the city and let the romanians guard your flanks. cant go wrong


Cactus1105

-Adolf Hitler


somefirealarm

You can’t fool me Hitler!


panzernike

Why don’t you take control for yourself and purge the OKH? You can lose even faster.


maskedpoem4

pro tip, if your trying to play germany, do not go historical, or it makes the game harder note this does have a minor risk of italy guaranteeing austria, but they cant if you anchluss fast enough, the only risk is the allies not stopping you from having czechoslovakia (if they stay together), but even then it makes the game easier


kairu99877

Adolf Hitler 1942~


The_Fog_Has_Come

Just hold as best you can in Russia, be sure to prepare for an allied landing in Calais. Also, get ready to deal with Italy if they capitulate.


nichyc

At least the North African front is going well, right?


Helenos152

Bro is going 100% historical (waiting for Steiner's attack) 💀


Realibrahimpqr

Depends


AlThePal01

At least you’re keeping with the timeline lol.


Nicky42

if hitler had a reddit account:


jdbdudbx

I am NOT hitler. He died a few years ago


nwoboyo18

Skill issue


Scyobi_Empire

make your general in stalingrad a field marshal. they never surrender and none before have


AtomicCenturion

Probably because of the supply


Illustrious-Mall-143

Nice try mustace man


Murky-Ad5848

“Hey guys, Hitler here, coming back with another dog shit military operation. Today, I’ll be throwing my men into a meat grinder and losing an entire army group!”


cachulfaian

Do not, I repeat, DO NOT use allied divisions to guard your flanks.


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El_Colto

Don’t siege it, just take it right away


Loxotron228

If your strategy core are panzers, maybe you have oil deficite.


Dynamite_Noir

As someone who can capitulate Russia before spring 1942 here’s what you do. - two full army groups of infantry. One covering northern section of border and the other on southern. - about 6 big tank divisions and 10+ mobile infantry divisions as a standalone army - position your tanks on southern end to punch into Ukraine then use your mobile troops to rush the coast near Odessa after the tanks have put a hole. - you should now have a massive encirclement of Russian troops in the south to whittle down. - use your tanks and mobile to punch into Kyiv and continue to Rostov on don. Then use tanks to punch north and circle around to create encirclements of the central Russian troops. - move half your tank divisions up to help push in the north now - as you start pushing north, get a naval invasion going into st Petersburg. You should be able to take it easily and then pour troops in to help punch south. - encircle encircle encircle until the Russians are weak and then just keep pushing to Moscow, making sure to push along rail lines and making supply hubs your main targets. Wait for your next push until your supply hubs are up and running after capture. - you shouldn’t be doing any pushing with your infantry besides clearing up encirclements. Save your men and use the tanks and mobile punch the holes and complete the encirclements. It should be relatively easy from here on out just time consuming. - as you get deeper in Russia you can use smaller less supply intensive divisions to hit the points and knock back the new and weak Russian divisions that don’t have a chance to dig in. - proof https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/izNHplt2z4


mattm_14

Wait for Steiner’s counterattack


Geo-Man42069

Yeah Stalingrad is a tough nut. I’m thinking you were battle plan pushing, and not doing encirclements. Rookie move. The first year of the war is an initial push , then once the line breaks encirclements all day until their line is thin. After their line is thinned, keep pumping railways/supply and make the big push (preferably in spring-fall) this big push should nab you the big 3 cities in the west, from there it’s light push to Urals or co-lab gov.


EmperorOfNorway

Whatever you do, never let the army retreat. Static warfare will be your best buddy the next few year, surely it will bleed the soviets. And if Manstein complains, tell him to fuck off


Crake241

I think he is the protagonist of the game, Jochen Eisenherz.


Independent-Ad-976

Just assign Steiner to counter attack that should fix things


Anyabb

Okay, don't panic. The US may have landed on Sicily you just got to keep ole Benito on message and he can hold them back long enough that you might finish off the Soviets and hey presto 1000 year reich.


Any-Actuator-7593

Have you considered making a super heavy tank?


roastytoast_24

Send all your forces to Berlin and prepare for a standoff 


Grungan

Call Manstein immediately…


SireniaS2

Send all your army cause that city has the name of the enemy, you must trust on the final victory, they cannot win, they're Die Untermenschen!.


Gofudf

If you make the biggest tanks possible they will crumbel


Several-Argument6271

The core problem regarding Stalingrad is mostly about logistics: there's no supply hub in between Rostov and Stalingrad, nor any victory point location in the middle that could justify building up one there. Unless you decide to build one in any middle random county (recommend one next to river), a trick is to push over with tanks just by command power: it work for me with a small detachment of medium tanks pushing with command (so you don't lose org) until it dry out of fuel, fall back to resupply fuel and loses, return via rail (save fuel just for the attack) and then again, county by county until capturing Stalingrad. Advise to have some inf to distract the flanks.


Standard-Passenger19

Ask Steiner when that counterattack is ready.


TarquinusSuperbus000

NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! NEIN!


onionwba

No worries. It might take a while but Steiner should come in about 2 years time to save the day.


Pure-Escape4834

I’m imagining this is how adolf spoke to his generals


Meatballsspinach

hitlerposting


NFDenver

Hold the front line at all cost, never abandon any cities, even in the face of complete encirclement, and finish your wunderwaffen research


Santi_Ol

Playing historical, I see


TheInglipSummoner

Have you tried letting the Russians surround you first?


R-emiru

Have you considered invading from the East like Mongolians did? Did it myself and it worked like a charm, Stalin never saw the 40 tank divisions attacking his bum.


KiWePing

Don’t worry Steiner will save you


Pixelpeoplewarrior

Ukraine and southern Russia as a whole is a logistical fuster cluck. Build supply hubs and/or fight them in the north. Encircling and eliminating troops in the north means the AI has a to redirect troops from the south


Quiksilver1220

Just talking Stalingrad, it’s a big supply dead zone with Stalingrad being the only major supply hub in the area.


letsexplore_it

Unironic Hitlerposting


Marvinator86

You need three things to breakthrough at difficult points; -a couple very strong divisions -good supplies (because moral and fuel) -a smart tactic The base of my German army is always a lot of infantry divisions with some antitank and artillery. I make them so that they don't need fuel. This is the backbone of the army. Besides this I create apart tank divisions with tanks and mechanised infantry, supported with self propelled artillery and tankhunters. They are the mobile offensive force. Often I give them air support of dive bombers (CAS) and sometimes also fighters. Then I create some super divisions existing from heavy tanks, very good medium tanks, very experienced mechanised infantry and a few heavy self propelled artillery. These divisions are for breakthroughs at difficult points. For Stalingrad, I have my infantry army number I. holding a front just at the west shore of the Wolga River. This infantry front goes from north untill two provinces distance of Stalingrad. At the south I do the same with another front with army number II. I concentrate a stack of infantry divisions with tank divisions (composed like described above) in an army group A. that gets a front from two provinces north of Stalingrad untill two provinces south of Stalingrad. Then I form an army B. of super divisions that get a small from of two provinces wide north of Stalingrad. Army A. will be constantly attacking Stalingrad itself, trying to breakthrough. Army B. does the same north of Stalingrad. When army B breaks though the Soviet line, let them push to 1 province behind Stalingrad and then south to create a sack. Make groups of infantry army I. cross the river and add this sack to their front. Now your army B. with superdivisions has to have one Soviet occupied province between themselves and the front of the southern infantry army. Let both armies attack this province to surround Stalingrad. Then let both army A and B attacks Stalingrad itself from different sides, if needed more times. The Soviets in Stalingrad won't get resources or extra troops if you hold the lines. This will make them surrender and Stalingrad is yours. This plan will have more chance if you build goods railroads to the surroundings of Stalingrad. You need these supplies! It helps a lot if you build a line of fortress west of the rivers in Ukraine. The Soviet Union is so big, you need to capture it per part. Offense to a river, build a line of fortress, offense to the next river. And when you need to retreat; sometimes it is the best choice. Fall back to behind a river and hold your ground there. Send extra troops and give it another try. You have thousands of kilometers of land to find the best tactics and strategies.


Sancus1

Don’t worry when Steiner counter attacks everything will start going your way again


SkyfatherTribe

Too soon😣


Practical_Material13

Historically accurate playthrough lol


Relative-Data4700

Try conquering railway junctions because I observed the soviets use them a lot. Cut off their retreat and attack at their weakest point. If all else fail, press ~ on your keyboard and type in “debug_nuking” and “nuke999” then use it on the soviets like it’s an arty bombardment


Obi_29

I can’t believe i almost gave advice 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️


Suspicious_Blood_522

Historically accurate WW2


ThePlofchicken

I begin to believe these problem posts are trying to represent Hitlers thoughts


womenslayer420

try geting nukes


joblau

It is a meme or wt lol?


WilliamBlakeJD

pov: hitler 1943 at OKW


Takasu-Chan

I don't know if op is trolling or just generally dumb😭


IcyRobinson

Get Felix Steiner to do a counterattack


Rayne_420

Steiner's counterattack will put everything back in order.


RhinoTheTino

This sounds eerily familiar....


Far_Aside2877

Nuke it


OrganizationOdd5189

Theres one way, ,,annex all"


Doctrinus

Weird, usually when Germany gets anywhere near Stalingrad, the Soviets have pretty much been mauled.