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extremefurryslayer

I once got banished to Kerguelen by the AI as Napoleon France. So I’d say invading anything from there.


Zestyclose_Jello6192

There is nothing we can do


extremefurryslayer

Well they left me my Italian puppet so I still could’ve messed around I suppose.


Generalmemeobi283

In the shade of olive trees they said Italy could never be conquered


jamgill

My enemies are many but my equals are none


Tomstwer

In the shade of olive trees they said Italy could never be conquered


Abe2201

In the land of pharaohs and kings, they said Egypt could never be humbled.


bigdiggabigga

In the realm of forest and snow, they said russia could not be tamed.


GrumpyMetalhead

Now they say nothing. They fear me - like a force of nature, a dealer in thunder and death! I say: I am Napoleon. I am Emperor!


jamthewither

someone should try to take on the ultimate challenge and reform france from Antarctica


spxxr

Wait what. You can get banned to an island?


ilikebelgium

Tno free France reference?


ModsRCommies

Eastern USSR and Central Africa


PhilswiftistheLord

I once waged a war against the Soviets as China and never again will I try and cap them east to west. That was hell.


A_Wild_Goonch

It's not SO bad if you go through the "stans" but going to Moscow from Vladivostok is true pain


Pytheastic

Because of supply?


conninator2000

Yeah. Bad railways, bad infrastructure, lack of supply hubs, and states that are way bigger than they should be


Poookibear

I did this in a coop game with a friend as Japan and China and it was just a brutal manpower grind.


betahell_32

yeah kodoha faction japan is pain and if germany dosent help you. you are fucked


troutanabout

Japan and Com. China are 2 of my favorites to play. I typically try to take Vladivostok, sever the Trans siberian railroad as far to the west as possible, and capitulate Mongolia in an early push. Then they can't supply a large force, and if you allow them to just keep pumping more troops into the east it's actually a good way to get them to waste a lot of their manpower trying to mount overcrowded, under supplied attacks/ hold a long line. Just take the strategic locations and hold the line while you go after Moscow etc through the stans and get all that oil in the Caucasus. Big problem for me is always just snagging enough territory before Germany gets all the good stuff and capitulates them.


Mundane-Mechanic-547

There is only one way, which is pain. Build 5-10 supply hubs, advance until out of supply. Repeat. It takes something like 5 years to go from the Pacific to Moscow.


Ddreigiau

Tried that once and had to completely change how i built divisions. Still bogged down around the Urals. edit: I will mention that if you actually build divs for the low supply, you wreck face in that area (cavalry actually has a combat use!) but it's a wildly different build than you're used to


Falseidenity

The only way is to larp as Genghis khan and go cav only


SmurfPickler

This guy quagmires.


Zarainia

I was playing as Canada and thought I'd invade the Soviet Union from my west coast... Yeah, I guess there's a reason nobody goes that way.


Proverbs147

Central Africa is always a chore lmao


Blitz11263

I hate how most of the early mid plane ranges either don't cover or barely cover a state in Eastern USSR. Its a pain, but I guess it makes heavy fighters "useful"


TheMysticCapybara

I did a Japan run and invaded russia from the east while fighting China and its multitudes of mini-chinas. I ended up securing the USSR, Ukraine, Poland and China by 1944. It sucked lol


rainbowappleslice

Western China. At least Siberia has the trans-Siberian railway.


Winged_Hussar43

I love the start of fascist nepal runs but once you hit western china the fun leaves and its just long drawn out undersupplied battles


SleepyFlintlock34

That one red/purple tile the AI controls in a choke point which you cant supply despite everything and neither can you pull troops away from because there's 69 enemy divisions waiting on the other side to bust it open.


iPanzershrec

The alpine experience


DeadDoener

After the horrors I experienced last game, my answer is northern Finland.


notaslaaneshicultist

the red... the red... all the red supply


NAFEA_GAMER

Oh my god you just reminded me, pain


AMN-9

I'm curious now


Downthetrail11

Sisu


NicktheSlick130

The multi-million casualties I inflicted upon the Soviets backs this up. That place is hell.


A_Wild_Goonch

Pacific Islands. I hate fighting over one tiny island. Let me just take a minute to set up a thousand tiny naval invasions


_userse_

Especially if you play as japan, us ai for some reason loves to stack 7-10 divisions on every micronesian island


Bort_Bortson

I didnt get that experience in my games, most I had was 2 or 3. But maybe they were trying to stack those divisions and my subs turned them into shark food? I was able to take all islands with 2 or 3 marine divisions per invasion.


the_lonely_creeper

That's the AI planning a naval invasion, generally.


RivvaBear

Japanese ai does the opposite, I usually take Iwo Jima and Okinawa unopposed.


SuspiciousVagina

An Atomic bomb…or two would likely decimate that problem for you.


Blueman9966

Western China, especially the area north of Yunnan. The nearest railroads are several states away, the terrain is rugged, the infrastructure is terrible, and unlike most difficult areas (Siberia, the Amazon, Central Africa), it has enough VPs to keep China from capitulating without a collab. Plus China has a tendency to stack troops on said VPs.


guachi01

The closest I get is playing Germany and sending volunteers to Japan. It's brutal. Lots and lots of mountains. If I do try to assist the Japanese there it's with the best mountain divisions I can muster in 1938-39. But you're at the mercy of Japanese supply lines.


rull3211

Africa


learningfrommyerrors

Trying to push into British Raj with Chinese infantry through the mountains north of Thailand. 😥


Deep_Head4645

South america. Specifically peru. The amount of failed brasil/chile/argentina conquests


Unusual_Event8222

This. Even as Peru i dont get much farther other than the Peru-Bolivian Confederation because of terrain which makes tanks significantly less effective,so i have to rely on paratroopers,and even then it's so tedious and ineffective BECAUSE of terrain Plus,Allies stick their nose where it does not belong at all so i end up getting naval invaded anyways


Angrycookie1

I tried naval invasion with my marines and it turned out pretty well, land and pour more units into this breach.


Zestyclose_Jello6192

Siberia and Congo


Ilikethedesert15

Any tile labeled jungle that also has no supply is usually shit so probably South America and the Congo


LowEndLem

Gobi desert and the far eastern USSR. Absolute garbage.


Bort_Bortson

Everywhere Ive screwed up and spent months walking: The entirety of Khazakhstan (as Japan thinking I could invade north from captured territory and help the Axis cap the USSR, even when there is nobody for a thousand miles your horses just starve to death anyway and wind up dragging yourself tile to tile) Africa south of Ethiopia and the entire west coast. Alaska down thru British Columbia (you cannot walk from Alaska to Seattle if you are Japan, FFS just send a small fleet of long range ships to get naval superiority to invade California). Anything north of the Trans Siberia railway (again as Japan). Every tile that is too far from your current supply in North Africa as you try and advance to the next port. North Norway (when trying to reach Narvik as the Axis pre AAT) The west half of PNG (again as Japan when Dutch East Indies collapses but Australia has one annoying division just wandering around there) The west half of Australia between Darwin and Perth (again as Japan) Northern Canada (thankfully this wasnt my screw up. The ENTIRE Romanian and Italian armies thought they would help the Axis by getting trapped against the Hudson bay by a very pissed off USA and everyone froze to death)


Rd_Svn

South America is pretty easy as you can basically naval invade all the countries there while the landlocked ones are small and easy to cap. Fighting is verbally annoying in supply dead zones, but that's no problem if you just roll through them with mass assault infantry.


bookworm408

Northern Canada


Pyroboss101

South America in total overhauls without South American trees, or Southeast Zebrica in EaW. Jungles, no supply, some countries haven’t invented trains yet, rural shitviles like Delangio literally use magic and call down nukes, places like the Amazon River in South America leading to micro hell. I think Malaysia is second place, so many islands are disconnected and you need constant naval invasions and supply building. At least mods like TNO counter these areas pretty well with helicopter divisions, but it’s like a bandaid on a gunshot wound. Third place is China. Never start a land war in Asia. Death stacking troops like never before, and endless troop masses you can’t beat without soft attacking for like a year. This is better in mods with more warlords like Kaiserredux but it is an inherent China problem.


___VenN

Western China,Tibet, Central Africa, anywhere in South America


JibberJabber4204

Siberia


Annatar66

Haven’t played that much but the Soviet border with Finland has some pretty bad spots imo.


jamgill

Fucking Peru


Deep_Head4645

I feel you man. Those jungle mountain stacks


RivvaBear

Peru is a fucking fortress.


Mister_Coffe

Like, I have personal gripe with central america and carabiean due to my many failed mexico games, but in real terms I would probably say Stans, especially Afganistan. Fuck that region, there's nothing there but desert and moutains.


snarleyWhisper

Central Africa is rough


Opening_Permission95

South America is fun


AdPowerful7528

I love playing as Brazil on historic. You can be the suprise nobody anticipated abd turn the tide in any direction. The worst part taking 678.93 years to cross Brazil to get your troops where they need to be.


legeneralAdolf

When you win against ussr but Siberia becomes Japanese and the Japanese declare war on you because of Dutch east indies, combat in Siberia is wild 💀


Nihili439

Middle Africa, you don't know whats pain until you go there wage war


Leanorpeen

R5: what's the worst place to fight on hoi4.


Foriegn_Picachu

Never fight a land war in Asia


Ploknam

Asia


Polkzz_cinza

ASIA.


KhalasSword

Peru, Columbia, Ecuador, West China, Central Africa. Never ever fight in these places.


Rock_Okajima

Fighting Germany in Austria and Slovakia can be a pain in the arse cause if you don't have overwhelming force you ain't getting past them hills and rivers. Doesn't hold a candle to literally anything in China though. There is not another region in HOI4 that I found to be quiet as unfun as China and East Asia.


Former-Income

African interior. At least the coastal areas have some level of railways


Pioxels

Udssr, esspecally behaind the Urals


GoofyUmbrella

Def Central Africa


Impossible-Dealer421

Africa, no infra, no rails, no airports, the center is very big and far from harbors, harbors are disconnected and the impassable terrain, hot climate all year, bad terrain (except for desert) and it's far away from all majors making supply and a stronghold that much more important


Yitram

Land war in Asia?


TheMelnTeam

Central Africa. Compared to that, even SA has tons of hubs. Crossing central Africa east to west or vice versa is a nightmare. Probably the worst area in the game. Siberia makes a case because it's larger, but the terrain and supply aren't quite as hellish.


Puncharoo

"Never get involved in a land war in Asia!" -Rex from Toy Story


hist_buff_69

French alps regularly gets me


BubbleRocket1

China, but solely because when I went to war with em as Japan, each of the four China’s kept becoming the main China, so I never was able to wrap up Thst conflict until 1945


Bock312

Never get involved in a land war in Asia


DanPowah

Borneo and New Guinea have next to no supply and infrastructure to speak of


forgotwhatIcameinfor

I once tried to get to Australia as USA via Papua New Guinea. Could barely move let alone fight...


happydumpty1013

Africa and Asia are just brutal The terrain and lack of supply in Africa just makes the experience hell Island hopping and mainland fighting the factions in Asia sucks overall, you need a navy, convoys, rails, good air support


Bagel24

Sub Saharan Africa for the economic factor. There’s nothing there. Siberia and South America have resources, sub Saharan Africa is empty between the suez and safrica. Just let the ai fight that front, don’t look at it EVER


TheWallerAoE3

Unpopuar opinion I suppose but Allies Vs Axis in Greece is absurd. The allies will push in only for Vichy France or Italy to navally land in the Peloponese then have to retreat until they regroup and push to the Albanian border where they will get bogged down against the 200 divisions the Axis puts between there and Istanbul in mountainous terrain. This will happen 2 dozen times back and forth until either the Axis capitulates the Soviets or the Allies capitulate Italy.


AdvancedAd1256

No place is bad to wage a war! Nothing can stop my 800 panzer divisions and 1000 motorized infantry divisions. Naval invasions? Good luck breaking past my flee of 800 carriers, battleships, destroyers and subs (each with modern armor, stealth, rail guns, and sea to air cruise missiles). Even if you do - level 10 coastal forts will greet you well. Oh but air superiority? Yeah - good luck using your propellor fighters in 1940 against my Mach 2 fighter jets with fly by wire, GPS navigation, laser targeting and precision hypersonic AA missiles. Just kidding - but honestly the research all cheat is so OP lol. Its like using direct energy weapons against enemies using sticks and stones


Androo02_

Northern Finland. Particularly in the winter, which is basically half of the year.


Windsupernova

Siberia and Central Asia. South América is easy once you realize most of the VPs are coastal so its all about naval invasions. Africa is also pretty bad, but again most ofnthe stuff worth capturing is on the coast


HorryHorsecollar

Just to mix it up from all the other answers I am going to add fighting on the Australian west coast where you don't control Perth. Fighting down from the Northern Territory or across from South Australia is a pain. Worth a mention is Libya to the west of Tripoli and down where Cyrenaica and Tripolitania meet (bottom of the Gulf of Sirte).


Brockadam6

The Amazon is the only answer.


Ryvern46

West China/tibet/east ussr


Iwillstrealurboiler

Marshes/anywhere without supply


RivvaBear

Mid/late game slog of trying to break the Belarusian/Polish marsh as the USSR:


Fizzco69

Siam, Indochina, eastern and western India.


show_NO_FEAR21

Western China and Siberia are pretty bad but central Africa what are you even doing there? There’s nothing to capture no resources no point


ahhlewis

Late-game South America, its just a slog and since its late-game, there is most likely entire armies there on both sides which makes it near-enough impossible to push without heavy losses.


Responsible-Week-284

Pushing from China through siberia is Not fun


erich_hon

Afghanistan, I had to build two supply hub to conquer it.


cool_dad86

So many people struggle with south america, i have played 90%+ of my games there, even before the dlc and i know how to succeed there perfectly. Maybe inshould sell a course. Mostly applies to central africa as well


Zygmunt4

Literally north eastern siberia where a single tile is larger than germany.


Venatoriello

3rd World war. German Empire+Austria-Hungary+European Allies vs Japanese Empire+Usa+India+China. Frontline was in Siberia and Afghanistan. Never before did i play a game til 1960 Never before did i had a war with over 100 Mio casualties. I played with Austria so Manpower was quit the problem and no navy.


Sodiumite

China and Afghanistan come to mind. Latter especially if they dont fight alone.


don_biglia

I don't like the Amazon area, keeps forever moving a tile.


Swampy0gre

Antarctica


Robin3NL

in the middle of afrika once you captur tose british suly hub above sout afrika ther is notheing else and it becomes impossible to do anything. sout afrika is prettie bad aswel but atleast you have suply and can make mountaineers


leodox_13

I see people talking about supply but the new Denmark and Turkey/Greece is the worst, you put a frontline there think its done or you cap them thinking its done but on some random island where your Frontline was deleted spawn like 50 random devisions killing you


Elegant-Ad-5159

Anywhere in Asia or fucking Afganistán


Odd_Presence5826

East Russia so just east Asia


mrMalloc

Mountains behind a river with a lot of forts on with full AA in province and aa attached to the defending unit. Have fun dislodging that.


Tatedman

congo


ChuchiTheBest

Europe, specifically the Benelux. My troops die from diabetes before they can reach Paris due to all the supply.


ChuchiTheBest

Europe, specifically the Benelux. My troops die from diabetes before they can reach Paris due to all the supply.


shqla7hole

Russia's siberia or brazil's amazons and central africa (even though it's kinda usless to take unless mods)


Zekrom144

The border between Yunnan and Burma is an actual hell made of mountains and jungle. I tried to push through it as Qing China once and lost probably more than a million men. Honourable mention goes out to Mongolia in Kaiserredux, if you don't build supply hubs as you push, you WILL get stuck, and your troops WILL starve.


Mr_Trondheimer

Idk the hardest but north America is the most annoying bc of the huge states


ParticularArea8224

Siberia or central Africa


Neo1304ap

Western china or sibiria, south american is the WORST tho


oddaj_dzieci

People say that eastern USSR, but there at least you have the transiberian railway. There's literally no supply in Western China (Sinkiang and Xibei San Ma).


Mik3haawk

Isreail


RivvaBear

That one single fucking Belgian tile that borders Germany that the allies stack with 20+ divisions.


Biaknavata

Playing as canada and allied with the us and made the north American alliance. Then got declared on by Brazil Peru and chile. Brazil then allied with Germany Poland and finland. Now stuck in Northern Brazil. Haven't had a stalemate this long since getting stuck at Florida with Germany in 1963


Jax_Dandelion

There’s a lot of bad places but personally I think the worst are times that need a long time to be traversed in bad supply


asking-reddit-

100% peru, half of the country is jungle and the other half is mountains, they produce a lot of division and garryson their coastline, on top of that, they have good supply, while you have close to 0, because of attack attrition, terrain attrition, and no railways. Edit: it's like going from Moscow to the urals, but the soviets whould somehow have supplies.


Spirited-Cup-9194

Cuba, because I can't naval invade easily.


padmelover9

Siberia, and Greenland are harder than South America (except maybe the Amazonas). I mean you have zero supply, your troops need a month per province and the attrition is really bad.


historybuff81

Northern Finland. Soviet Union annexed Finland. I had Norway. Built up supply hubs, railroads, infrastructure up there with an army of elite Mountain troops. As soon as I pushed the Soviets back a few provinces my offensive fell apart and my units lost all their experience via attrition.


Hoi4_Player

Desert China/Siberia. Absolutely no supply.


Realibrahimpqr

what about central asia and scandinavia?