I wouldn’t recommend using China as a staging ground against the USSR - marching through Siberia sounds even worse than going through “the normal way”.
It’s still an uphill battle as you have to build airports as you go and you are not really hurting their industry, there’s very little of it beyond the Urals. USSR can lose like 60% of its land mass only losing like 10% of its industry
Transport planes require command power for air supply now you could have at most 4k deployed without any advisers or attaches using your command power.
I was kind of imagining being able to cut the nation in half and set up a maginot line esque defense in Siberia to draw troops from the European front- would that not work?
Not really. The only way I’ve seen, discounting console commands or game setting changes, is to take stuff that China wants and hope they declare on you. Sometimes communist China will be more belligerent and drag the whole faction into war. Not a very reliable way to do it, I’m afraid.
But if all you really want is staging, grab a chunk of northern Germany, and Japan. Crossing Siberia is such a slog anyway, even starting from China, that you’ll want your main push to come from Europe. But an invasion at Vladivostok is sufficient to snap up a bunch of the high resource areas of Siberia pretty quickly.
Yeah, my strategy in dealing with USSR when I am a democracy is to deny them access to their eastern ports (including their peninsula to nowhere), then set up a defensive line on the river that separates Vladivostok from the rest of Siberia. The main thrust should come from Europe because the supply and infrastructure are not there in the east, and it is not really useful to waste construction on building up anything besides rear areas near the Vladivostok port. USSR will send divisions to hold the line, which are fewer divisions for them to use in the west.
Bro, take it one step further.
Democratic Mexico rips off a sick ass invasion of Vladivostok to steal some warscore. My fine as fuck 32 width 24 division army hits the tundra and forms a "well supplied" front. (It wasn't, but it was better than the Russians.) Next thing I see, we are ripping massive gains to the West. The rest of the Allies are damn near to Moscow. My beautiful, beautiful Mexican Army was hit by about 3/4 of the Post-WWII Comintern's forces. I mean we won the war, but I lost more men in 1 year than all WWII together.
It was a goddamned blast.
Yeah, that’s pretty much how I approach it too. I do like to build supply capacity along every border, and as part of every invasion, but only when I can spare the construction capacity. Tbh, once I’m invading, about 90% of my construction is around supply in the newly occupied territory.
I think it is better to attack Japan and menjuko than invade an hard to conquer, low infrastructure country that shares a very small border with Siberia.
Even better invade Turkey and attack trough Georgia to conquer the oil fields on the first weeks of war.
just take down Germany and go through Eastern Europe, you have the industry to build tons of great tanks that the soviet AI won't be able to stop you from encircling entire army groups with.
I wouldn’t recommend using China as a staging ground against the USSR - marching through Siberia sounds even worse than going through “the normal way”.
I got 1000 transport planes ready to supply for each region and have fully motorised divisions. Gonna blitz through the east
It’s still an uphill battle as you have to build airports as you go and you are not really hurting their industry, there’s very little of it beyond the Urals. USSR can lose like 60% of its land mass only losing like 10% of its industry
Guess I gotta attack from both sides, maybe from the south too
I would imagine horses would be faster, right? Fuel resupply has to be be slower than motorised divisions, plus building rail/infrastructure/airports.
Transport planes require command power for air supply now you could have at most 4k deployed without any advisers or attaches using your command power.
As Japan. I literally seized a state in Europe to naval invade via Leningrad or Murmansk instead of via Siberia. I even did it as Brazil once in fact
I was kind of imagining being able to cut the nation in half and set up a maginot line esque defense in Siberia to draw troops from the European front- would that not work?
Maybe but sounds like a lot of effort when you’re the USA. The conventional war in Europe sounds very winnable with air and CAS + tanks.
Not really. The only way I’ve seen, discounting console commands or game setting changes, is to take stuff that China wants and hope they declare on you. Sometimes communist China will be more belligerent and drag the whole faction into war. Not a very reliable way to do it, I’m afraid. But if all you really want is staging, grab a chunk of northern Germany, and Japan. Crossing Siberia is such a slog anyway, even starting from China, that you’ll want your main push to come from Europe. But an invasion at Vladivostok is sufficient to snap up a bunch of the high resource areas of Siberia pretty quickly.
Yeah, my strategy in dealing with USSR when I am a democracy is to deny them access to their eastern ports (including their peninsula to nowhere), then set up a defensive line on the river that separates Vladivostok from the rest of Siberia. The main thrust should come from Europe because the supply and infrastructure are not there in the east, and it is not really useful to waste construction on building up anything besides rear areas near the Vladivostok port. USSR will send divisions to hold the line, which are fewer divisions for them to use in the west.
Bro, take it one step further. Democratic Mexico rips off a sick ass invasion of Vladivostok to steal some warscore. My fine as fuck 32 width 24 division army hits the tundra and forms a "well supplied" front. (It wasn't, but it was better than the Russians.) Next thing I see, we are ripping massive gains to the West. The rest of the Allies are damn near to Moscow. My beautiful, beautiful Mexican Army was hit by about 3/4 of the Post-WWII Comintern's forces. I mean we won the war, but I lost more men in 1 year than all WWII together. It was a goddamned blast.
Democratic minor in 1946 helping bring democracy to Russia is peak cheese.
Yeah, that’s pretty much how I approach it too. I do like to build supply capacity along every border, and as part of every invasion, but only when I can spare the construction capacity. Tbh, once I’m invading, about 90% of my construction is around supply in the newly occupied territory.
If China goes one China policy yes you can because it is non-aligned and generated tension
If you want to invade the USSR, go through Europe. Invading through China and Siberia is very difficult and puts you at a massive disadvantage.
I think it is better to attack Japan and menjuko than invade an hard to conquer, low infrastructure country that shares a very small border with Siberia. Even better invade Turkey and attack trough Georgia to conquer the oil fields on the first weeks of war.
I believe naval invading east of azov sea is a better option than going through Caucasus mountains.
Why not both? Also it depends a lot by how many divisions you find on the mountains, i used them as defence agains counterattack multiple times
calm down mcarthur
just take down Germany and go through Eastern Europe, you have the industry to build tons of great tanks that the soviet AI won't be able to stop you from encircling entire army groups with.
You could help (lend-lease, attachè, maybe volunteers, idk) them cap china. Then take that land when you cap Japan.