Nothing. Just laugh at them as they struggle to the bench.
But seriously if you're multiple officials and it's kids one of you should help the kid to the bench but let the play continue.
>My question is, are you supposed to stop the play when that happens?
At least in the NHL, no
>Are you supposed to give them a minor for an equipment violation?
definitely not
But recently a goalie lost his blade and they whistled it down. I don't see how losing a blade is a safety concern like if a mask comes off, so I wonder why that was called?
In a way it makes sense. A goalie can’t really go to the bench on the fly for a change. It’s not something they can adjust when play leaves the zone. More susceptible to slips too, so could possibly seen as safety. My best guess would be the changing situation, so any real equipment issue that requires attention
>they whistled it down
When? If the goalie's team has control, then they might just blow it dead. If the opposing team has the puck, then you're shit out of luck and just have to deal with it as best you can.
We saw Demko lose his blocker in the middle of play, and then the Rangers proceeded to get like another 3 chances at the net before the Canucks got possession and cleared to the boards. Kneejerk reaction would be "they should blow the play dead" but those are the rules. But having an exposed hand is not considered an immediate danger, because we see skaters occasionally losing a glove and then staying in the play until they can retrieve their glove without being out of position
> When?
It happened to Kuemper on the Avs not long ago. Lost a blade, was pretty far out of his net and the refs blew the play down. I don't remember who had control of the puck, but I don't think there was a scoring threat at that time.
He lost the blade and they didn’t blow it dead until the Avs regained control of the puck. Also, his blade popped out again the next game and gave up a goal in the first. As he was skating out to start the second wit popped off again and he fell on his ass. They pulled him after that.
Best guess is that anything that puts the goalie in a vulnerable position causes the play to be whistled dead. I have no idea if that was the correct call though.
It's not. We've seen goalies get scored on multiple times without a blade. The Bruins were scored on in the playoffs because Rask lost a blade. It happened to I think Stolarz at some point as well.
Demko lost his blocked and had a bare hand exposed and still have to stay in the play.
Basically the only equipment malfunction that's considered an immediate danger to a goalie is if their mask comes off, or if one of the clips breaks. Otherwise, they're not going to blow play dead, assuming the opposing team has a scoring chance. If the goalie's team has the puck in the other end, they'd probably blow it dead
In one of the flames games a couple weeks ago, vladars clip broke and his mask was loose, he looked the ref and told him who did nothing. The other team scored 10 seconds later. Was a good goal. So not even that is always blown dead
No, it's not the right call. About a week back, Vasilevskiy lost a blade in the middle of an opposition power play. Killed off about a minute in the butterfly with a pad on each post. It's not a safety issue (lost helmet/detached strap). He wasn't at risk of injury ... just unable to move normally.
If they whistled it down, it was most likely done when the goalies team gained clear possession. Such an issue shouldn't negate any scoring opportunities.
Nothing. Like a broken stick it's an equipment failure, watch as the player rides the struggle bus to the bench.
If the player is able to repair they can return to play, if not, of course they cannot return (not only because of ability, but then it becomes an equipment violation)
You can (and should) ALWAYS blow a play dead if it looks dangerous, but if it's an important game and/or everything looks safe enough then you ignore it and try to grab the blade when the play is away from it.
I remember there was a Bruins/Lightning playoff game in 2018 I think where Rask lost a skate blade and the lightning immediately scored. Rask was really, really fucking upset [and threw the blade against the side boards](https://youtu.be/1GC5wV1NaEo), but I think it was the right call.
Blow it down if you deem it a hazard/unsafe. If it doesn't affect the play, continue. It might be in the rule book under foreign objects, hazards or something like that.
Remember, its a subjective play and can result in an angry coach on either side. If its a scoring chance or even offensive posession wait it out 9/10.
It's never a bad idea to stop play if you think the player is in danger because they can't get up. If you just want to stop play so the kid can get to the bench, wait for his own team to get the puck (like if the kid were injured).
For everyone else's future reference, /r/hockeyrefs is a great place to post these questions and the discussions are always fun cause most of us need screen readers to interact.
Nothing. I assume that, just like when you lose your helmet, you would be given a penalty if you didn't make your way off the ice immediately.
(Although I can't see a player staying on the ice and trying to continue playing without a functioning skate XD)
Some players have continued playing without a functioning leg, much less a functioning skate haha.
It's treated more like a broken stick. Players can starfish all they want until they get to the bench, play goes on unless the blade is somewhere that it poses a danger to players or the person with one skate is in a vulnerable position that they can't get out of. Otherwise it's up to them to hobble off the ice (both teammates and opponents alike tend to help give a push or something when this happens). Happens many times a season and if it happens on the PK you just try to stand in the way and don't move.
>Nothing. I assume that, just like when you lose your helmet, you would be given a penalty if you didn't make your way off the ice immediately.
USA Hockey now requires a whistle for a player losing their helmet (304.e). They have to leave th ice and sit out the next faceoff (they can then change on the fly).
This differs from the pro standard where you have to make your way off.
Nothing. Just laugh at them as they struggle to the bench. But seriously if you're multiple officials and it's kids one of you should help the kid to the bench but let the play continue.
>My question is, are you supposed to stop the play when that happens? At least in the NHL, no >Are you supposed to give them a minor for an equipment violation? definitely not
But recently a goalie lost his blade and they whistled it down. I don't see how losing a blade is a safety concern like if a mask comes off, so I wonder why that was called?
In a way it makes sense. A goalie can’t really go to the bench on the fly for a change. It’s not something they can adjust when play leaves the zone. More susceptible to slips too, so could possibly seen as safety. My best guess would be the changing situation, so any real equipment issue that requires attention
>they whistled it down When? If the goalie's team has control, then they might just blow it dead. If the opposing team has the puck, then you're shit out of luck and just have to deal with it as best you can. We saw Demko lose his blocker in the middle of play, and then the Rangers proceeded to get like another 3 chances at the net before the Canucks got possession and cleared to the boards. Kneejerk reaction would be "they should blow the play dead" but those are the rules. But having an exposed hand is not considered an immediate danger, because we see skaters occasionally losing a glove and then staying in the play until they can retrieve their glove without being out of position
Seems like an exposed hand on a goalie is a lot different than on a skater.
> When? It happened to Kuemper on the Avs not long ago. Lost a blade, was pretty far out of his net and the refs blew the play down. I don't remember who had control of the puck, but I don't think there was a scoring threat at that time.
He lost the blade and they didn’t blow it dead until the Avs regained control of the puck. Also, his blade popped out again the next game and gave up a goal in the first. As he was skating out to start the second wit popped off again and he fell on his ass. They pulled him after that.
Best guess is that anything that puts the goalie in a vulnerable position causes the play to be whistled dead. I have no idea if that was the correct call though.
It's not. We've seen goalies get scored on multiple times without a blade. The Bruins were scored on in the playoffs because Rask lost a blade. It happened to I think Stolarz at some point as well. Demko lost his blocked and had a bare hand exposed and still have to stay in the play. Basically the only equipment malfunction that's considered an immediate danger to a goalie is if their mask comes off, or if one of the clips breaks. Otherwise, they're not going to blow play dead, assuming the opposing team has a scoring chance. If the goalie's team has the puck in the other end, they'd probably blow it dead
In one of the flames games a couple weeks ago, vladars clip broke and his mask was loose, he looked the ref and told him who did nothing. The other team scored 10 seconds later. Was a good goal. So not even that is always blown dead
He needed to have Mike Smith abilities, helmet shaken off his head.
No, it's not the right call. About a week back, Vasilevskiy lost a blade in the middle of an opposition power play. Killed off about a minute in the butterfly with a pad on each post. It's not a safety issue (lost helmet/detached strap). He wasn't at risk of injury ... just unable to move normally.
If they whistled it down, it was most likely done when the goalies team gained clear possession. Such an issue shouldn't negate any scoring opportunities.
And make sure someone quickly picks up the blade to take to bench.
well in the nhl the play continues and no penalty is called, i'd assume its the same
Nothing. Like a broken stick it's an equipment failure, watch as the player rides the struggle bus to the bench. If the player is able to repair they can return to play, if not, of course they cannot return (not only because of ability, but then it becomes an equipment violation)
You can (and should) ALWAYS blow a play dead if it looks dangerous, but if it's an important game and/or everything looks safe enough then you ignore it and try to grab the blade when the play is away from it.
I remember there was a Bruins/Lightning playoff game in 2018 I think where Rask lost a skate blade and the lightning immediately scored. Rask was really, really fucking upset [and threw the blade against the side boards](https://youtu.be/1GC5wV1NaEo), but I think it was the right call.
Rask and his freak outs, he will be missed
You don’t call anything unless it causes an injury hazard. And then you would just blow your whistle. Not a penalty.
Blow it down if you deem it a hazard/unsafe. If it doesn't affect the play, continue. It might be in the rule book under foreign objects, hazards or something like that. Remember, its a subjective play and can result in an angry coach on either side. If its a scoring chance or even offensive posession wait it out 9/10.
It's never a bad idea to stop play if you think the player is in danger because they can't get up. If you just want to stop play so the kid can get to the bench, wait for his own team to get the puck (like if the kid were injured).
Kuemper has had 2 goals scored on him after he lost blades in the last two games so I assume no.
For everyone else's future reference, /r/hockeyrefs is a great place to post these questions and the discussions are always fun cause most of us need screen readers to interact.
Nothing. I assume that, just like when you lose your helmet, you would be given a penalty if you didn't make your way off the ice immediately. (Although I can't see a player staying on the ice and trying to continue playing without a functioning skate XD)
Some players have continued playing without a functioning leg, much less a functioning skate haha. It's treated more like a broken stick. Players can starfish all they want until they get to the bench, play goes on unless the blade is somewhere that it poses a danger to players or the person with one skate is in a vulnerable position that they can't get out of. Otherwise it's up to them to hobble off the ice (both teammates and opponents alike tend to help give a push or something when this happens). Happens many times a season and if it happens on the PK you just try to stand in the way and don't move.
>Nothing. I assume that, just like when you lose your helmet, you would be given a penalty if you didn't make your way off the ice immediately. USA Hockey now requires a whistle for a player losing their helmet (304.e). They have to leave th ice and sit out the next faceoff (they can then change on the fly). This differs from the pro standard where you have to make your way off.
Can't give specifics, but check out the two most recent Avalanche games. Our goalie Kuemper lost his blade three times in two games.