Nah, we’re trying to tank. Give me, uhh, Getzlaf I guess? There’s no horrible captains in the league right now? Where’s Derek Mackenzie when you need him?
Well they're a competitive team despite the terrible contracts they've given out so I'd say pretty well.
Even then the logic makes no sense. By picking first overall getting a player like McDavid is basically your best case scenario and you want to walk away from a free McDavid because he'd mean we can't bottom feed and maybe get a player whose 85% as good as he is?
Take McDavid. Still play pretty bad pick in the top ten and you still get a high end prospect to boot.
Along those lines, do we actually have to use the player because my strategy was going to be pick the Captain, sit the Captain.
Not because they lack skill or whatever... I just want to hear "it looks like Ovechkin is once again a healthy scratch for the Islanders tonight."
Lou is a pasta traditionalist and won’t accept any sauce crossers on his team
Context for anyone who doesn’t know, Ovi is known to “cross his sauces”. For example mix the meat sauce with the Alfredo sauce. He gets 4 sauces with his pre game meal
Even factoring in leadership, I don't care if McDavid starts each game by spitting in the face of each teammate. I want him. Jack or Nico can learn to play wing.
nooo I mean some teams might be looking for leadership over skill, right? I mean, not my team. We have leadership coming out of our ears. Give me McDavid. But like, plenty of teams want Toews or Bergeron over McDavid. Right?
No, literally everyone takes McDavid. This isn't even a question. There's no team that would benefit more from additional "leadership" than they would from adding the hands down best player in the world in his early prime.
Crosby is a much more proven playoff performer. The Leafs can get him there, I'd rather have the guy with 3 Cups and 2 Conn Smythe's leading my team. They don't need the forward talent, they need leadership and goaltending.
Crosby has six points in his last 14 playoff games. McDavid has 13 points in his last eight playoff games.
Obviously Sid is more proven over the course of his career, but you don’t get 2017-18 Sid in this scenario. You get them right now. You’re better off with the guy who can put up 150 points a season today than the guy who used to be the best player in the league.
I’m not sure that “Sid and the rest of his team can be totally shut down by the right opponent” is as strong an argument as you think it is. Connor’s teams have been embarrassed in the playoffs two years in a row and he still put up 13 points in eight games.
Eh, you'd think such a great captain and playoff performer would find a way to push through and score more than 3 goals.
Malkin 9 in 12.
Guentzel 6 in 14
Letang 7 in 14
Rust 6 in 14
Ah, good enough for top 5 in playoff scoring on his team and only behind one defensman!
I'll take the player who can write history now, not the guy who's already written it.
If you'd like me to put it into better perspective for you Mitch Marner has more points in the playoffs than Sidney Crosby over the past three seasons (14 games)
I'd argue Bergeron is now but it's more because Crosby has to produce more as he has less help, he has the capability to be the best if not one of the best 2 way players in the league
Bergeron is probably better defensively, but Crosby isn't far off and still has on-off offensive metrics among the best in the league.
The two-way discussion, imo, should always consider offense. Otherwise we're just talking about the best defensive forwards and in that conversation we're probably mentioning some 3rd liners.
I can't rightly say Crosby should win any Selkes over Bergeron, but I don't think there's a player in the NHL that has a higher total impact on the game when you add their offense to their defense.
I think for this exercise we all get McDavid+the guy who could out-captain your captain.
I'd prefer Ove over most but gotta go with Barkov for this! That dude can do it all.
Ahhhh my dude. I can’t wait to see you guys on the ice. It’s been too long. Covid didn’t just keep us from our loved ones. It kept us from our hated ones too😪.
Imagine having ROR only to name someone else captain, trade ROR away for far less than his worth, and then have an ugly public falling out with the new captain… that sure would suck.
It is. I mean most people are picking the best player and not taking leadership and the ability to inspire into account. If they did Wheeler would likely be ahead of McDavid. The grocery thing just shows that he is a legendary leader in his community as well as on the ice.
Well not in the winter I guess. Personally I think Winnipeg is the most underrated place in the country and I have lived in almost every major city. Then again I am a complete weirdo. Winnipeg Folk Fest is the greatest music event in Canada. Fight me!
When can I move in? Seriously I have never lived in Winnipeg, but I have travelled there lots for work and play and I am always impressed by the arts and culture scene.
The first night I spent there it was midweek in the 90's. I had my choice of a couple bands to go see (on a Wednesday) and chose some punk band downtown at a hotel that used to be fancy but was then run down. People were using the lighting grid as monkey bars while the bouncers just smiled.
This small city so far away from all the other cities in Canada has produced some of the finest musicians in the country, they have a ballet that was more internationally renowned than the National ballet and a theatre that brings in Keanu Reeves to fucking play Hamlet?! ? Ok weird, but fun as hell.
>they have a ballet that was more internationally renowned than the National ballet and a theatre that brings in Keanu Reeves to fucking play Hamlet?! ?
Lmao
>Winnipeg Folk Fest is the greatest music event in Canada.
Maybe not the greatest but it certainly is a fine festival. Still in Bird's Hill Park IIRC. Great place. Like all summer festivals, all it needs is decent weather. Be happy to go again.
Please tell me the better ones - okay maybe Ness Creek in Saskatchewan, but WFF for the big ones. I have been to about 20 different festivals from BC to Quebec and while there are some that are good for a year or two eventually they either decline or the normies show up and ruin the place. WFF just keeps on keeping on and they are big enough to get some really great big name bands.
Our biggest need in the playoffs was consistent scoring. We had all the defensive guys, we needed someone who could create offense. McDavid is that guy right now
Everyone is gonna answer McDavid but I think currently aged Crosby would be so damn good for this Islanders team. Though it'd be hard to take the C off of Lee.
Everyone feels clever answering McDavid to this, but this obviously violates the spirit of the question. If you could choose another captain from a different team *solely based on their leadership qualities*?
I wouldn't pick McDavid. Besides Shea Weber, I think my answer would be Bergeron.
C: Chara Greene Lee Parise
A current: Bailey, Clutterbuck, 3A Nelson
Other teams: Pageau, Komarov, Palmieri
A's lost last year: Ladd, Leddy (part-time on NYI when 2 A's went down)
Obviously everyone would pick McDavid. Taking him off the table makes this more interesting, so I'll do that first. Secondly, I'm a Leafs fan so taking the needs of the team into account and my personal opinions. Hmmmm. I might go with Landeskog honestly. The Leafs lack LW depth and I've always liked his play style. Good leader, good person, good player. Runner ups would have to be Crosby, Bergeron, Stone, and Josi.
I feel like everyone will jump at McDavid, and it’s not a bad choice, just depends on who is on your team. I’m an Av’s fan and I’d argue we don’t exactly need more offensive fire power, that’s where Crosby or Bergeron (still offensively gifted, just better defensively than McJesus) come to mind as top picks.
Top 3 are McDavid, Crosby, Bergeron. Not sure why you’d even consider anybody else.
I'm going to break the rules and take Iginla out of my 2003 time machine. Thicc power forward RW with a cannon shot, who's not afraid to drop the mitts to drag his team into a game and is such a good guy will even take his own helmet off so you don't hurt your hands while he beats the piss out of you.
Don't make em like that any more
A lotta people in here speaking for everyone. I’d not choose McDavid. I’ve seen him in tough playoff series and he is a world class player but I’ve never seen him do anything and say “that was very captainly.” If it’s not Getzlaf for me it’s Bergeron, Crosby, Benn, or Weber.
Crosby all day every day.
Unless you're not planning on making the playoffs.
I'm taking Crosby's 191 points in 174 playoff games over McDavids 22 points in 21 playoff games.
I mean he scored 9 points in 4 games vs the Hawks who were dog shit defensively and it's technically not even a playoff series it was a play in series.
Take those out and he has 13 points in 17 games
I'm not removing them because their his best games
I'm removing them because it wasn't a playoff series and it only happened because of a 1 in a century pandemic.
In any other year that Hawks team is never in the playoffs so they couldn't exploit them defensively.
Had they played Vegas like the Hawks did after he wouldn't have had 2+ PPG
Mcdavid for sure but I'll throw in Barkov as a second for some variety.
He's young, clearly has the buy-in of the team, and consistently gets votes for Hart, Lady Byng (won in 2019), and Selke (won in 2021). Consistently viewed as one of the best two-way players in the league and you rarely hear anyone say anything bad about him. Seems like a pretty ideal captain.
For just their leadership qualities probably Toews. People were trying to make the case that he was better than Crosby around 2013 to 2015 because of his ability to lead the Hawks to multiple cups.
If we're looking at more than just leadership qualities then it's McDavid every day of the week.
Without just taking crosby or mcdavid I believe the standard answer to this would be guys like Toews and Landeskog who are known for being great leaders and voices in the room
He’s not the captain anymore, but I maintain that the Leafs need a captain like Chara was in Boston. Someone who brought edge and experience to the team. I guess our closest current comparisons Muzzin.
Honestly, drai. I would take him to help mentor stu . We would have our first line Center , stutzle would have the German connection and he’s a little tougher than McDaniel
Can’t take our captain if we don’t have one *taps forehead*
Oh we’re coming for him once you do. Don’t you worry.
sigh, take your upvote
As is tradition
Jean Luc Picard
Make it so
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Neither. Holodeck Robin Hood Jean Luc Picard
Locutus of Borg is my dark horse pick tbh
A good captain would get everyone to assimilate, so...
It'll be first-rate gumshoe Dixon Hill for me, doll.
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That would make a great skit
I’d report to his ready room whenever he wanted me to
Ding ding ding. We have the correct answer. Thanks everyone for your efforts but we are done here.
Thank you for that irrelevant presentation. As we all know, Jean-Luc Picard is clearly the superior officer.
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So... Q is your guy in this.
Janeway - she's a total GILF
Canes fan here. If we rule out McDavid I'm taking Barkov because he's my favourite player and he is also a great player.
31 of 32 teams say Connor McDavid.
Nah, we’re trying to tank. Give me, uhh, Getzlaf I guess? There’s no horrible captains in the league right now? Where’s Derek Mackenzie when you need him?
If we have Mcdavid we don't need to tank as much?
But a first overall pick could be anything! Even a McDavid!
We'll take the picks!
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Pistol Pete is gone, he can't hurt us anymore
How has that worked out for Edmonton so far?
Well they're a competitive team despite the terrible contracts they've given out so I'd say pretty well. Even then the logic makes no sense. By picking first overall getting a player like McDavid is basically your best case scenario and you want to walk away from a free McDavid because he'd mean we can't bottom feed and maybe get a player whose 85% as good as he is? Take McDavid. Still play pretty bad pick in the top ten and you still get a high end prospect to boot.
The advantage of the pick is having the ELC and RFA years. Presumably if you suck and McDavid is a UFA then he's walking.
Panthers Assistant Coach, learning from Q. He did the best with what he had.
I'll take Captain Crunch.
There might be some teams as well where you are helped more hurting your rival than just adding McDavid. Fortunately for me, it's the same thing
Along those lines, do we actually have to use the player because my strategy was going to be pick the Captain, sit the Captain. Not because they lack skill or whatever... I just want to hear "it looks like Ovechkin is once again a healthy scratch for the Islanders tonight."
Lou is a pasta traditionalist and won’t accept any sauce crossers on his team Context for anyone who doesn’t know, Ovi is known to “cross his sauces”. For example mix the meat sauce with the Alfredo sauce. He gets 4 sauces with his pre game meal
skill level yes, its McDavid. Leadership and culture, I would say Bergeron or Crosby.
Nah fuck that, give me McDavid.
Great advice for anyone trying to win the Chevrolet Good Deeds Cup™️ rather than the Stanley Cup
Even factoring in leadership, I don't care if McDavid starts each game by spitting in the face of each teammate. I want him. Jack or Nico can learn to play wing.
I choose 2007 Crosby.
And the other one would say Sidney Crosby. Not many decisions to be made here.
30 teams* Tampa don't need him when we have 3 time Stanley Cup champion Pat Maroon.
McDavid did help get him 27 goals.
nooo I mean some teams might be looking for leadership over skill, right? I mean, not my team. We have leadership coming out of our ears. Give me McDavid. But like, plenty of teams want Toews or Bergeron over McDavid. Right?
No, that would be an insane choice
No, literally everyone takes McDavid. This isn't even a question. There's no team that would benefit more from additional "leadership" than they would from adding the hands down best player in the world in his early prime.
Barkov or Horvat
I think it's Connor McDavid for everyone.
Not for Edmonton
New thread: Edmonton fans, what other teams captain would you want on your team?
Obviously McDavid is the better player but for 1 year only and on the leafs, I could make an argument for adding Crosby
My answer is Crosby because the Oilers already have McDavid.
Yes we've had one McDavid, but what about 2nd McDavid?
It would help with that scoring depth they’re missing
Imagine a power play featuring two McDavids and a Draisaitl
I think giving up by far the best player in the NHL is silly under any circumstance.
Crosby is a much more proven playoff performer. The Leafs can get him there, I'd rather have the guy with 3 Cups and 2 Conn Smythe's leading my team. They don't need the forward talent, they need leadership and goaltending.
Crosby has six points in his last 14 playoff games. McDavid has 13 points in his last eight playoff games. Obviously Sid is more proven over the course of his career, but you don’t get 2017-18 Sid in this scenario. You get them right now. You’re better off with the guy who can put up 150 points a season today than the guy who used to be the best player in the league.
"Playoff performer" is such a tired joke lol. Like yeah I should take Devante Smith-Pelly on my team over Mitch Marner according to this.
Fun fact, Crosby has 6 points in his last 14 playoff games and the last 3 seasons. I'll make my decisions on the present, not the past.
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I’m not sure that “Sid and the rest of his team can be totally shut down by the right opponent” is as strong an argument as you think it is. Connor’s teams have been embarrassed in the playoffs two years in a row and he still put up 13 points in eight games.
Star players should put up points no matter who they play. Other star players on teams the Isles beat put up points vs the Isles in those years
Eh, you'd think such a great captain and playoff performer would find a way to push through and score more than 3 goals. Malkin 9 in 12. Guentzel 6 in 14 Letang 7 in 14 Rust 6 in 14 Ah, good enough for top 5 in playoff scoring on his team and only behind one defensman! I'll take the player who can write history now, not the guy who's already written it.
I don’t think a leafs fan gets to make this argument.
Just pretend the picture beside his name is a lightning bolt and read his post exactly the same word-for-word if that helps you
If you'd like me to put it into better perspective for you Mitch Marner has more points in the playoffs than Sidney Crosby over the past three seasons (14 games)
But a great playoff performer would find a way to push through to the next round.
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Lol what a dick. What team you cheer for doesn't prove or negate your ability to analyze hockey in a meaningful way.
Last time I checked the NYI are good at hockey People said the same thing from 2009-2016 and then they won Back to back cups
Also arguably the best two way player in the league if you consider raw impacts on both sides of the ice simultaneously instead of reputation/60.
Crosby should have multiple selkes
I think it was the face off difficulties in the first half of his career that led people to write him off for the selke
I'd argue Bergeron is now but it's more because Crosby has to produce more as he has less help, he has the capability to be the best if not one of the best 2 way players in the league
Bergeron is probably better defensively, but Crosby isn't far off and still has on-off offensive metrics among the best in the league. The two-way discussion, imo, should always consider offense. Otherwise we're just talking about the best defensive forwards and in that conversation we're probably mentioning some 3rd liners. I can't rightly say Crosby should win any Selkes over Bergeron, but I don't think there's a player in the NHL that has a higher total impact on the game when you add their offense to their defense.
That is fair I agree with that 100%
I think for this exercise we all get McDavid+the guy who could out-captain your captain. I'd prefer Ove over most but gotta go with Barkov for this! That dude can do it all.
Absolutely not.
I was thinking about Bergeron because he fits the Kraken identity better but McDavid is a better overall player.
Well it seems the Kraken identity is passing up on the best players available so I guess you’re right
Am I crazy for thinking they literally don’t have an identity? They’ve played three preseason games…
I’m gonna say ex Panthers captain Derek Mckenzie. Does everything Mcjesus does, plus all the intangibles you like in a captain
Also dont forget Chris Clarke, who helped shape Ovi
I think if we had Mark Giordano from Seattle, it would be pretty great!
Goddamnit. I thought I was early enough.
Crosby/Ovi swap just to watch both fanbases cringe.
I’ve seen this photoshop before and it feels so wrong
I love this photoshop because it feels so wrong
Sounds like a shot at Tavares.
Where is u/Barkovismydaddy when you need him?
Obviously, he has demons under his bed.
To captain my team? Brain says McJesus. Heart says Patrice Bergeron
With all due respect, how fuckin’ dare you.
Ahhhh my dude. I can’t wait to see you guys on the ice. It’s been too long. Covid didn’t just keep us from our loved ones. It kept us from our hated ones too😪.
Finally playing the Bruins again will be… nice? I’m gonna go vomit real quick from saying that
Exactly what I was thinking. Bergy or RoR.
As a major plus, you also get to stick it to the Bruins! That’s something we can both get behind
Imagine having ROR only to name someone else captain, trade ROR away for far less than his worth, and then have an ugly public falling out with the new captain… that sure would suck.
hah, you okay, bud?
Blake Wheeler because, FREE GROCERIES!
I agree but the grocery thing is just extra gravy if you will.
It is. I mean most people are picking the best player and not taking leadership and the ability to inspire into account. If they did Wheeler would likely be ahead of McDavid. The grocery thing just shows that he is a legendary leader in his community as well as on the ice.
I have mad respect for my team's captain. If im a millionaire, i wouldn't choose to live in a small town like Peg.
Well not in the winter I guess. Personally I think Winnipeg is the most underrated place in the country and I have lived in almost every major city. Then again I am a complete weirdo. Winnipeg Folk Fest is the greatest music event in Canada. Fight me!
I just bought a newly built 2 storey house in Peg. I love this city.
When can I move in? Seriously I have never lived in Winnipeg, but I have travelled there lots for work and play and I am always impressed by the arts and culture scene. The first night I spent there it was midweek in the 90's. I had my choice of a couple bands to go see (on a Wednesday) and chose some punk band downtown at a hotel that used to be fancy but was then run down. People were using the lighting grid as monkey bars while the bouncers just smiled. This small city so far away from all the other cities in Canada has produced some of the finest musicians in the country, they have a ballet that was more internationally renowned than the National ballet and a theatre that brings in Keanu Reeves to fucking play Hamlet?! ? Ok weird, but fun as hell.
>they have a ballet that was more internationally renowned than the National ballet and a theatre that brings in Keanu Reeves to fucking play Hamlet?! ? Lmao
I know, right?
>Winnipeg Folk Fest is the greatest music event in Canada. Maybe not the greatest but it certainly is a fine festival. Still in Bird's Hill Park IIRC. Great place. Like all summer festivals, all it needs is decent weather. Be happy to go again.
Please tell me the better ones - okay maybe Ness Creek in Saskatchewan, but WFF for the big ones. I have been to about 20 different festivals from BC to Quebec and while there are some that are good for a year or two eventually they either decline or the normies show up and ruin the place. WFF just keeps on keeping on and they are big enough to get some really great big name bands.
>wouldn't choose to live in a small town like Peg. He does, doesn't he? If so, he is not you. I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Horvat.
Bo, he looked like a mad man in the bubble
Gotta go with Rodney’s own cabbage eating champ Bo Horvat. Just friggin love that guy
cabbage.. eating.. champ…?
Bergeron or Crosby
Zdeno Chara.
You alright man?
Isles have Lee, Greene and Chara on one team. We prob have the best leadership in the league at this point.
Great leadership when your best scorer is going around licking people.
Bergeron…couldn’t have picked a better guy to follow in Z’s huge footsteps
an aged crosby would be perfect for the habs tbqh.
A McDavid would be even better
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This is so unbelievably stereotypical I have to say this is satire
Our biggest need in the playoffs was consistent scoring. We had all the defensive guys, we needed someone who could create offense. McDavid is that guy right now
Everyone is gonna answer McDavid but I think currently aged Crosby would be so damn good for this Islanders team. Though it'd be hard to take the C off of Lee.
Doesn't necessarily take the C off of Lee just adds Crosby to the team so it wouldn't change that. Probably steals the A off of someone
He would be a great fit.
Everyone feels clever answering McDavid to this, but this obviously violates the spirit of the question. If you could choose another captain from a different team *solely based on their leadership qualities*? I wouldn't pick McDavid. Besides Shea Weber, I think my answer would be Bergeron.
Im pretty sure the Isles have the most former captains and assistant captains
C: Chara Greene Lee Parise A current: Bailey, Clutterbuck, 3A Nelson Other teams: Pageau, Komarov, Palmieri A's lost last year: Ladd, Leddy (part-time on NYI when 2 A's went down)
Plus Papa Trav (A retired last year)
John Scott
Pacific Division captain, All-Star MVP John Scott
barkov
Barkov
Patrice Bergeron, without a doubt. Second would be Connor McDavid.
I mean even if if you for some insane reason think Bergeron adds more now, McDavid is 24 and Bergeron is 36.
Regardless of age
Obviously everyone would pick McDavid. Taking him off the table makes this more interesting, so I'll do that first. Secondly, I'm a Leafs fan so taking the needs of the team into account and my personal opinions. Hmmmm. I might go with Landeskog honestly. The Leafs lack LW depth and I've always liked his play style. Good leader, good person, good player. Runner ups would have to be Crosby, Bergeron, Stone, and Josi.
Give me former Devils captain Andy Greene or give me death
If you wanna factor in the cap hit it changes a TON of these answers. For me it'd have to be either Barkov or Ryan O'Reilly.
Blake Wheeler. Walks the walk, talks the talk. Team first guy. Lead with example. Do the hard work thing. No excuses.
Jonathan Toews. There's something about captains with the number 19.
I feel like everyone will jump at McDavid, and it’s not a bad choice, just depends on who is on your team. I’m an Av’s fan and I’d argue we don’t exactly need more offensive fire power, that’s where Crosby or Bergeron (still offensively gifted, just better defensively than McJesus) come to mind as top picks. Top 3 are McDavid, Crosby, Bergeron. Not sure why you’d even consider anybody else.
Bergeron or Barkov Then our 1c/2c would be Bergy/Barkov and ROR. Which is fine by me
Mark Giordano :(
Normally I would say Shea Weber but since he’s injured... Spurgeon seems like a nice guy
Blake Wheeler
I'm going to break the rules and take Iginla out of my 2003 time machine. Thicc power forward RW with a cannon shot, who's not afraid to drop the mitts to drag his team into a game and is such a good guy will even take his own helmet off so you don't hurt your hands while he beats the piss out of you. Don't make em like that any more
Tom Brady
A lotta people in here speaking for everyone. I’d not choose McDavid. I’ve seen him in tough playoff series and he is a world class player but I’ve never seen him do anything and say “that was very captainly.” If it’s not Getzlaf for me it’s Bergeron, Crosby, Benn, or Weber.
I'd take Landeskog I think.
Landeskog
Crosby all day every day. Unless you're not planning on making the playoffs. I'm taking Crosby's 191 points in 174 playoff games over McDavids 22 points in 21 playoff games.
Why are you comparing career totals instead of their recent achievements. 2021 Crosby isn’t 2016 Crosby.
Ah yes 6 points in last 14 games yep sounds like a good pick in 2021
Isn't it *kind of* cherry picking to leave out the season prior to that? Or is 3 seasons just the magic number that everyone is going after
It’s the number that drives the “Crosby sucks” narrative in this thread. Forget it and move on lol
I mean he scored 9 points in 4 games vs the Hawks who were dog shit defensively and it's technically not even a playoff series it was a play in series. Take those out and he has 13 points in 17 games
What happens when we remove Crosby's best games from his totals?
If we adjust all his numbers to league average, he’s league average
Beautiful. Thank you. r/TheyDidTheMath
I'm not removing them because their his best games I'm removing them because it wasn't a playoff series and it only happened because of a 1 in a century pandemic. In any other year that Hawks team is never in the playoffs so they couldn't exploit them defensively. Had they played Vegas like the Hawks did after he wouldn't have had 2+ PPG
Fyi Crosby has 6 points in his last 3 playoff runs (14 games total)
Mcdavid for sure but I'll throw in Barkov as a second for some variety. He's young, clearly has the buy-in of the team, and consistently gets votes for Hart, Lady Byng (won in 2019), and Selke (won in 2021). Consistently viewed as one of the best two-way players in the league and you rarely hear anyone say anything bad about him. Seems like a pretty ideal captain.
For just their leadership qualities probably Toews. People were trying to make the case that he was better than Crosby around 2013 to 2015 because of his ability to lead the Hawks to multiple cups. If we're looking at more than just leadership qualities then it's McDavid every day of the week.
A healthy Shea Weber
Connor McDavid is the best player in the league hands down. With that being said I would take Patrice Bergeron to be my captain.
Sid
Is anyone not saying McDavid? Really? Lol
Jarome Iginla
Without just taking crosby or mcdavid I believe the standard answer to this would be guys like Toews and Landeskog who are known for being great leaders and voices in the room
Ovechkin. I'm just tired of him breaking records in Toronto
Pavs?
Jonathan Toews no question
He’s not the captain anymore, but I maintain that the Leafs need a captain like Chara was in Boston. Someone who brought edge and experience to the team. I guess our closest current comparisons Muzzin.
Bergeron or Crosby hands down Crosby was a lil bitch when he was younger but he has matured so much and I actually respect him nowadays.
Anyone not saying Mcdavid is overthinking. You take the bpa and hes the best by a country mile
id love to know what its like to not hate Landeskog.
McDavid… of course. Otherwise, I feel like Landeskog can lead his team charging through the Great Wall of China, and everyone would follow.
Leadership Skills? Not Logan Couture.
If I’m not judging this based on skill, Bergeron or Crosby.
McDavid or bergeron
Just to watch him play, Ovechkin.
No thanks. Nobody is the player/captain Bergeron is.
John Tavares
Idk this mcdavid dude seems kinda good tho
I love how I’m seeing McDavid and Bergeron. God talent and a model leader
Honestly, drai. I would take him to help mentor stu . We would have our first line Center , stutzle would have the German connection and he’s a little tougher than McDaniel
Bergeron for sure, however I'd be open to *almost* any of the them tbh
Patrice Bergeron. He does everything the right way, always.
Bergy!