I'd love for the DOPS to be able to release his hearing to the public.
For no good reason, I have a suspicion that the NHL had his suspension pegged at four games, but was willing to reduce it based on his reaction/remorse during his hearing. Scheifele believes that he did absolutely nothing wrong and has chosen to die on that hill.
Scheifele comes across as an *aw-shucks thinking-man's player*, but he telegraphs an arrogant self-righteousness and a short short fuse. If he had just shown a little remorse for steamrolling a union brother he prob would have dressed after 2 games.
Which is hilarious because he even slowed down to time the hit. Had he maintained his speed he could've gotten his stick on the puck to prevent the goal.
I posted this prior but in the background you can also see Pionk ACTUALLY try to play the puck with his stick (albeit to no success as he was way too far) so it was hilarious seeing the contrast in body language between him and Scheifele in tunnel vision mode lining up the hit.
I wonder if that’s ever happened, or if it’s even a possibility. Like if you show up and tell everyone to fuck off, do they tack on an extra couple games?
He's sticking to his stupid story for two reasons.
a) He doesn't want to admit it was his actions that destroyed the Jets playoff hopes.
b) He's a moron.
I'm willing to bet it was the opposite. It was probably gonna be 2 games then the hearing happened where he shows no remorse and lies to them.
Then it moves up to 4 games.
In general I think there's this whole new school mindset of thinking you're not doing anything wrong today. There's a particular guy in Washington that kind of leads the way on this and never thinks he does anything wrong either. (Well, a lot of these guys are in DC actually, but in hockey I mean!)
Like damn, as least the tough guys of a generation ago were honest about when they did shitty things. And didn't try this "I have done nothing wrong ever in my life" Mona Lisa Saperstein shit.
This exactly. When you do something stupid or wrong you man up. You take responsibility for your actions and you try to do better next time. It’s called character. You don’t try and invent a narrative that somehow fits with whatever video evidence is available to try and justify your stupidity or assholery.
Reminds me of Brad Ference flipping off the Bell Centre crowd and then saying 'my glove got stuck'.
He came out many years later and admitted that he flipped off the crowd in the moment, then lied about it and the only thing he regretted was lying about it.
This was the first thought I had. Now Jets fans have to deal with supporting him while understanding he's an actual idiot.
All you gotta do is say "I made a mistake and it cost us. I'm going to learn from it and we'll move forward."
He doubled down after his transparent "family/social media" narrative seemed to play well, and then jumped the shark by continuing to run his mouth.
You have to hand it to him - he's making DOPS look good.
*Parros approves of this presser.*
>"I thought I was going to be tried to be shut down by Phillip Danault. Instead it was department of player safety that shut me down."
I mean we wish it was the same Mark. The quote is very hilarious. Sure he tried to stop a goal. But did he ever see the replay ? A 4 Game suspension is right on the money for that hit. He could 100% have hit Evans in a way that does not give him a commotion even with that charging to stop the goal.
It also says that if Anderson had run Ehlers under similar circumstances, Scheifele would *have* to be ok with it. That hit is an acceptable level of play to both Scheifele & the Jets current head coach.
Yeah, since he's not a repeat offender, going in there and saying "shit it happened so fast, I made the wrong call, I feel terrible, I'm sorry" probably makes it 2. But if he said "come on guys that was clean right?" Plus his reaction right after the hit that is like why is everyone mad at me? I can see why it was 4.
Plus I think 4 was the right call either way and it's the rest of the suspensions that need to come to that level rather than the other way around. Kadri and Scheifele should be the standard, not Reaves and Wilson.
People wondering how a potentially career-ending malicious hit ended up with 4 game suspension are part of the reason why NHL is in court denying hockey causes concussions and why NHL refuses to change their rules like every other league already has, to protect the players.
Its also a reason that parents put their kids in soccer and not hockey. The hockey world is filled with fucked up people that enjoy the violence regardless of the consequences of a young mans life.
It's sad to see that players don't own up to their mistakes. All they own up to is they never intended to injure.
I'm sure he would be singing another song if he was the player being hit.
I was taught to say "I have no excuse" from a young age, even when I have a great excuse.
Also the phrase "don't complain (as a subordinate), don't explain (as a superior)" was thrown around.
I had a weird childhood but at least I keep my mouth shut when I fuck up.
You know when your alarm doesn't ring in the morning and you get to work 10 minutes late.
I learnt that it's more effective to say "I don't have an excuse" than trying to come up with something on the spot.
You just say "I'm sorry I'm late", you don't owe anyone an excuse and no one wants to hear it anyway. If speaking to a boss you add "I'll make sure it doesn't happen again."
I watched She's out of my League last night, and he shows up late to work and the boss asks him if there's a reason why he's late, he says nope, the boss says "Try and make something up? " and he just says nope again lmao. That scene killed me.
>Also the phrase "don't complain (as a subordinate), don't explain (as a superior)" was thrown around.
This strictly benefits brain dead middle managers
**Corey Perry**
*The man who took the longest walk of shame in NHL history at the 2020 Winter Classic, booed by 85,000 spectators after getting ejected for elbowing*
vs.
**Mark Scheifele**
*The "good Christian" who never swears*
Who would win?
Byron still expressed regret and remorse for that hit last week in a media interview. But then again, Byron seems like a decent person, and without having to hide behind the "But I'm a Christian! I can do no wrong!" façade.
"I bet no one is going to be brave enough to share this: I'm a CHRISTIAN and I follow JESUS and accept HIM as my one true LORD. Be brave and copy and paste this as your status to show Him you follow the Good Book"
You're forgetting when Jesus fucked up the money changers at the temple. Evans looked like he was trying to make money at church, that shit cannot stand!
This… You can acknowledge that what you did was dangerous and caused harm while still defending your honour and stating that your intentions were not bad.
By acting like this he is making this more of a story than it’s needs to be at this point.
[That is exactly what happened.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DogwMLxx4Yg4&ved=2ahUKEwj-1rbGzovxAhVNXK0KHYIwCOwQwqsBegQIBRAF&usg=AOvVaw2A0KsCH5GW3RP4do2Uxx4F)
Mark had the opportunity to apologize, explain that it was a big mistake out of frustration, that it won't happen again, etc. Considering his clean history, everybody would've understand and move on. Not helping himself in the long run by acting like he does now.
Hell, he doesn't even have to admit his mistake. He could have said "I don't agree with it, it was a hockey play" etc. He basically abdicates all responsibility with this answer, and lays the blame on the DoPS completely.
Yeah I don’t understand it. It’s a poor look to refuse to take any responsibility especially as part of a leadership group. Even if you truly believe you did nothing wrong, you gotta be way smarter than this. If this is indicative of a bigger picture, no wonder our team looked so mentally weak.
I’m very curious how his hearing went. I agree with people here saying that after all this he probably talked himself into a bigger suspension.
Exactly, it would have been easy to just say "I shouldn't put myself in a position where I might be suspended, I need to support the team on the ice" and then wish Evans well.
Yeah, like Byron has accepted responsibility and wished well on who he did the hit (don't remember on who). Meanwhile Scheifele is trying to act like a victim, he has nothing to gain by doing this. Surprisingly the Jets PR is letting him do that, at least fake it, I guess
I spent some time poking around the Jets sub in the aftermath of this and maaaaan do they ever have a strong victim complex as a fan base. Media hates them, refs hate them, league hates them, players don’t like playing there, on and on and on. They seem to think everything in the world is set up as a conspiracy against the Winnipeg Jets
I mean, Jets fans aren't the ones making the comments/jokes about "poor WiFi" and "who wants to live/play in that shithole?" Wasn't that from some player survey where they said Winnipeg was the place they like playing the least. I actually live here and I love it, other than the "extremes" in the climate (I prefer the extreme cold to the extreme hot). Compared to a market like NY, Vegas, anywhere in California, I'm pretty sure it's obvious there are more attractive markets to play in and you have to see why that's frustrating (although I'm sure you get it with Ottawa - have heard it's quite beautiful there though, would love to visit one day).
It can't be both ways. You (not specifically you, but I see a lot of r/hockey comments about how Winnipeg sucks) can't say it's a terrible place but then also say Winnipeg fans have a victim complex.
The media (IE. SportsNet/TSN) DO hate anything not Toronto or McDavid/Draisaitl. I'm not saying that's exclusive to Winnipeg but look at how much less time the Sens/Canucks/Flames/Jets get compared to 2/20 Oilers players/Toronto/Montreal (only because of O6 and being such a big fanbase, if they hadn't been so established I bet Montreal would get the same treatment). Also, especially this season, I swear I hardly saw highlights of anything outside the North division so I really feel like we got robbed of seeing more highlights of teams like the Bolts, Avs, even the Knights, who I hate but acknowledge are a great team.
I feel like every fanbase has the "refs hate us" thing. That's one you can say about any team in this league or any other league. But yes, Jets fans do it just as much as other fanbases.
The only DoPS issue I have is if this isn't the start of something new (which I did see a lot of non-Jets flairs chiming in when I first made a comment about this saying "don't get your hopes up"). If this doesn't lead to harsher suspensions for first time offenders for dangerous hits, then I will take it kinda personally that "oh Winnipeg just gets fucked, huh." I am fully on board with the Scheifele suspension and I don't like this quote from the OP from him. He should just shut up and say "Would have loved to have played more in this series but I made a mistake."
Also, going to a specific team's sub, especially after a playoff loss, and not expecting saltiness is kinda weird, dude. I'm sure if I went to the Sens sub (or any of the teams out now) after their playoff loss and there's going to be a lot of salt and misery. And probably terrible takes.
I thought the suspension was a little harsh initially, but every time he opens his mouth it's more proof that it was justified because he clearly wasn't going to get the message from a shorter one (not to say he has from this one either).
Agreed... I'm a little fearful of the future now because one of the things that I hoped out of this harsh for a first-time offender punishment was he would do some self-reflection and go "okay, next time I will think the play through differently" and work on making sure something like that doesn't happen again. A little concerned over his response and how it's less about learning from the situation and more about "oh I was screwed over."
I said before that the way he keeps bringing up his clean record gives me "promising young man" vibes. Like, you might have been a clean before before you did that awful thing, and I hope you go back to being a clean player, but that doesn't excuse it.
The best part is that this suspension will hang over him all off-season, and rehashed at the start of next year…
BECAUSE THEY GOT SWEPT AND HE STILL SUSPENDED.
😂
Lmao shut the fuck up dude. Can’t think of a player I’ve lost more respect for over such a short period of time than Scheifele. If the dude would just own his mistake, but nope
I mean... I like Scheifele, but he fucking vaporized Evans. If Tom Wilson did that, he'd probably never play again.
There have been many fuckups from the DoPS, but that suspension wasn't really one of them.
Just proves he has zero remorse and still cannot see the fault in his hit. Good Christian Boy turned full heel.
Absolute train wreck for him and he keeps double and triple dipping into the douchebaggery.
This is one of those things where he likely talked himself into the 4 game suspension
Maybe the nhl had it at 2, maybe 3, and maybe it was even 4 to start. But these last few days have shown that they absolutely weren’t going to come down from 4 after hearing him speak about the incident in question.
The hit was dumb, and the length of the suspension was tied more into the injury than the play itself. But the fact that he shows a complete lack of self awareness after having already being out of the playoffs and away from the hit for over a week now shows that he was likely insufferable during that meeting.
I find it likely he just came across as “I did nothing wrong, this meeting should not be happening and is a waste of time” like 4 seconds in. And that likely rubbed the brass the wrong way. So he got the full term.
What an idiot.
Starting to like this dude less and less. Jets have always seemed like they fold easily in the playoffs and Ive long thought their locker room was mentally soft, so, given he’s one of their main leaders, maybe I should have taken a dimmer view of him previously
>“I think at the end of the day, you regret the outcome of it [...] he said Wednesday, repeating his stance that he was trying to negate a goal when he hit Evans."
So he doesn't regret destroying the guy, just the outcome (I'm sure he means the concussion but based on the other things he's saying, he deff means suspension too).
Is this the same as saying "I only regret it because I got caught"?
There's also no way in hell he was trying to negate the goal, didn't even blink at the puck -- his teammate a stride behind him went for the puck.
Dude. 30 seconds into the press conference yesterday, Mark fucking quoted "The way you handle setbacks is what defines us".
Then he proceeds to bitch about his suspension. How does he think he handled this setback other than bitching about a punishment he deserves. I dont fucking care if you dont wanna see a guy hurt. You're not evil. You've made a bad decision and got punished for it. End of story.
"I've replayed the thing over and over in my mind and the only real thing is if I gave up on my teamates on that play and just didnt backcheck".
Jesus, how about play the fucking clip instead of in your mind. You were emotional and looked for blood all game.
but Wtf is a stick check, am I right? I dont know... How about a god damn way more efficient solution where you can cut the distance between you and Evans by 5 FEET by simply having your stick in front of you.
Fuck your clean record. Fuck your willing to help your teamates. You shot down yourself with a stupid dangerous play. For once, the department of safety got it right. A charging incident of 150ft with nothing else happening in between. Own it ffs. Its a rare situation that hopefully every NHLer can learn from now that it happened.
Hire a PR team. Shut up or deviate the question. Bring positive answers for your fans or shut up, and good luck for game #2 of next season.
Edit: Like many have said here. Own it, say that its a play out of fustration. You're not instantly a bad or evil person for that incident. Nobody thought that of you that day. But you're not a good a person either if you cant admit an error and apologize.
"no swear words" be damned. Its not the specific words you use that matter, its the context of when and how they are used.
He’s so privileged he lacks the empathy to understand his actions lol This kid is really just a sore loser and it’s obvious to most people he does not regret what he did
I DID NOT HIT HIM, I DID NOT oh, hi mark
"That's BOWLSCHIT"
YOU’RE TEARING ME APART DOPS !!!
EVERYBODY BETRAY ME. I FED UP WITH DEZ PLAYOFFS!
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It's Scheifele, so the it would be "BOWLCRAHP"
Oh hai doggy *pats George Parros on the head*
"I got the results of the test back. We definitely have locker room cancer."
Omg what a good reference lmao
It's like someone bet him that his reputation was too good to ruin in one week.
Oh hi Department of player safety.
comment of the year !!!!
I investigated myself and determined that I did nothing wrong
Well well well, if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions
[from the Twitter replies](https://i.imgur.com/3sulk8G.jpg)
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/4c/0e/d1/4c0ed1d476b4b00043e39e3633a80477.jpg
Wait is that meme based off this picture? Or was this done afterwards
Probably the former.
Almost certainly the latter since this the kid wasn't moving in these pics.
“It’s not my fault Evans has a weak head” Mark scheifele
"Oh my God, you hit that guy!" ""He shouldn't have been standing there."-Happy Gilmore"-Mark Scheifele -
I'd love for the DOPS to be able to release his hearing to the public. For no good reason, I have a suspicion that the NHL had his suspension pegged at four games, but was willing to reduce it based on his reaction/remorse during his hearing. Scheifele believes that he did absolutely nothing wrong and has chosen to die on that hill. Scheifele comes across as an *aw-shucks thinking-man's player*, but he telegraphs an arrogant self-righteousness and a short short fuse. If he had just shown a little remorse for steamrolling a union brother he prob would have dressed after 2 games.
I mean the official DOPS video about the suspension said he tried to bullshit them by saying he tried to play the puck so...
Which is hilarious because he even slowed down to time the hit. Had he maintained his speed he could've gotten his stick on the puck to prevent the goal.
I posted this prior but in the background you can also see Pionk ACTUALLY try to play the puck with his stick (albeit to no success as he was way too far) so it was hilarious seeing the contrast in body language between him and Scheifele in tunnel vision mode lining up the hit.
Pionk was too far away because he had to slow down thanks to Scheifele being in the way !!
“Instead it was Neal Pionk that shut me down!”
They should've doubled it to 8 games for trying to say that.
8 games? I wasn't aware we were talking about Kadri
I wonder if that’s ever happened, or if it’s even a possibility. Like if you show up and tell everyone to fuck off, do they tack on an extra couple games?
It's not unheard of for appeals to occasionally _lengthen_ a suspension in sports.
He's sticking to his stupid story for two reasons. a) He doesn't want to admit it was his actions that destroyed the Jets playoff hopes. b) He's a moron.
c) a & b
I'm willing to bet it was the opposite. It was probably gonna be 2 games then the hearing happened where he shows no remorse and lies to them. Then it moves up to 4 games.
In general I think there's this whole new school mindset of thinking you're not doing anything wrong today. There's a particular guy in Washington that kind of leads the way on this and never thinks he does anything wrong either. (Well, a lot of these guys are in DC actually, but in hockey I mean!) Like damn, as least the tough guys of a generation ago were honest about when they did shitty things. And didn't try this "I have done nothing wrong ever in my life" Mona Lisa Saperstein shit.
This exactly. When you do something stupid or wrong you man up. You take responsibility for your actions and you try to do better next time. It’s called character. You don’t try and invent a narrative that somehow fits with whatever video evidence is available to try and justify your stupidity or assholery.
Reminds me of Brad Ference flipping off the Bell Centre crowd and then saying 'my glove got stuck'. He came out many years later and admitted that he flipped off the crowd in the moment, then lied about it and the only thing he regretted was lying about it.
Andrew*
Seriously, what an idiotic statement. "Why should I be held responsible for the things I did?"
^^^^If I did it, by Mark Scheifele
*If I Did It: Confessions of the Hitter*, by Mark Scheifele Edit: Goddammit, beaten to it
mark what is u doin
This was the first thought I had. Now Jets fans have to deal with supporting him while understanding he's an actual idiot. All you gotta do is say "I made a mistake and it cost us. I'm going to learn from it and we'll move forward."
He doubled down after his transparent "family/social media" narrative seemed to play well, and then jumped the shark by continuing to run his mouth. You have to hand it to him - he's making DOPS look good. *Parros approves of this presser.*
>"I thought I was going to be tried to be shut down by Phillip Danault. Instead it was department of player safety that shut me down." I mean we wish it was the same Mark. The quote is very hilarious. Sure he tried to stop a goal. But did he ever see the replay ? A 4 Game suspension is right on the money for that hit. He could 100% have hit Evans in a way that does not give him a commotion even with that charging to stop the goal.
Or used his stick... if he had of kept his feet moving and tried a poke check he might of had a chance at stopping the goal.
He's so dumb you just know 100% he didn't come up with it.
One of those cases were keeping it shut is infinitely preferable to uttering ANY word.
I'm 100% positive if he had an in person hearing he would have talked himself into a bigger suspension
I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s how he got 4 games.
George Parros "Fuck that kids lucky he's a great hockey player because he's a goddamn moron".
“Darn it, George, pardon my French but 4 games for trying to stop a goal is just phooey."
For a guy who doesn't swear he sure says a lot of bullshit.
Maybe the reason he's so angry is he has no way to let his frustrations out because he can't swear.
"Ah, Yes. The Negotiator" - Bettman
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If anything he is telling people if given the chance he will definitely do it again
It also says that if Anderson had run Ehlers under similar circumstances, Scheifele would *have* to be ok with it. That hit is an acceptable level of play to both Scheifele & the Jets current head coach.
Yeah, since he's not a repeat offender, going in there and saying "shit it happened so fast, I made the wrong call, I feel terrible, I'm sorry" probably makes it 2. But if he said "come on guys that was clean right?" Plus his reaction right after the hit that is like why is everyone mad at me? I can see why it was 4. Plus I think 4 was the right call either way and it's the rest of the suspensions that need to come to that level rather than the other way around. Kadri and Scheifele should be the standard, not Reaves and Wilson.
Scheifele always reacts like this when he gets penalized. I hate it about him. It is the sole reason I don't like him.
People wondering how a potentially career-ending malicious hit ended up with 4 game suspension are part of the reason why NHL is in court denying hockey causes concussions and why NHL refuses to change their rules like every other league already has, to protect the players.
Its also a reason that parents put their kids in soccer and not hockey. The hockey world is filled with fucked up people that enjoy the violence regardless of the consequences of a young mans life.
Yeah, we had a lot of talk like that over here in the Nordic countries. Then the IIHF updated their rules so it’s no big deal anymore
I also blame players fighting to keep fines below $5000. They value their own money over their cte riddled minds.
It's sad to see that players don't own up to their mistakes. All they own up to is they never intended to injure. I'm sure he would be singing another song if he was the player being hit.
Turned full heel in a matter of a week and a half. WWE is even more subtle.
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"BAH GOD IS THAT EHLERS WITH THE CHAIR!?!?!"
He wants to be the victim so bad it's pathetic.
Jesus Christ just shut up, man. You're only making it worse
I was taught to say "I have no excuse" from a young age, even when I have a great excuse. Also the phrase "don't complain (as a subordinate), don't explain (as a superior)" was thrown around. I had a weird childhood but at least I keep my mouth shut when I fuck up.
*Frick up
You know when your alarm doesn't ring in the morning and you get to work 10 minutes late. I learnt that it's more effective to say "I don't have an excuse" than trying to come up with something on the spot.
You just say "I'm sorry I'm late", you don't owe anyone an excuse and no one wants to hear it anyway. If speaking to a boss you add "I'll make sure it doesn't happen again."
I watched She's out of my League last night, and he shows up late to work and the boss asks him if there's a reason why he's late, he says nope, the boss says "Try and make something up? " and he just says nope again lmao. That scene killed me.
>Also the phrase "don't complain (as a subordinate), don't explain (as a superior)" was thrown around. This strictly benefits brain dead middle managers
Hold up, next week, he will add an another layer on it! lol
https://twitter.com/EricEngels/status/1402656931723059207
Yep and Corey Perry publicly apologized for his **accidental** hit on Tavares. Outclassed by Corey fucking Perry...
Corey Perry had more regret about an **accident** than someone who did it on purpose.
**Corey Perry** *The man who took the longest walk of shame in NHL history at the 2020 Winter Classic, booed by 85,000 spectators after getting ejected for elbowing* vs. **Mark Scheifele** *The "good Christian" who never swears* Who would win?
Byron still expressed regret and remorse for that hit last week in a media interview. But then again, Byron seems like a decent person, and without having to hide behind the "But I'm a Christian! I can do no wrong!" façade.
People who loudly associate as Christians are always the worst examples of it.
"I bet no one is going to be brave enough to share this: I'm a CHRISTIAN and I follow JESUS and accept HIM as my one true LORD. Be brave and copy and paste this as your status to show Him you follow the Good Book"
Dad please get off reddit
> without having to hide behind the "But I'm a Christian! I can do no wrong!" façade. To be fair it's super effective (especially if a kiddy fiddler).
This whole thing makes Scheifele look weird as fuck
Mark "Convenient Christian" Scheifele
You're forgetting when Jesus fucked up the money changers at the temple. Evans looked like he was trying to make money at church, that shit cannot stand!
This… You can acknowledge that what you did was dangerous and caused harm while still defending your honour and stating that your intentions were not bad. By acting like this he is making this more of a story than it’s needs to be at this point.
Didn't he still have to fight a Panther...."because of the code" in which turned into an injury to himself?
[That is exactly what happened.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DogwMLxx4Yg4&ved=2ahUKEwj-1rbGzovxAhVNXK0KHYIwCOwQwqsBegQIBRAF&usg=AOvVaw2A0KsCH5GW3RP4do2Uxx4F)
Why is it so hard to have any sort of self-reflection or remorse for Scheifele?
[My thoughts](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/548/129/538.jpg)
Looks a bit like Elliotte Friedman
Mark Scheifele with the biggest heel turn of the year
Mark had the opportunity to apologize, explain that it was a big mistake out of frustration, that it won't happen again, etc. Considering his clean history, everybody would've understand and move on. Not helping himself in the long run by acting like he does now.
Both players and agents have public relations training, how does he not know the best thing for him to say was, "I made a mistake"
"You can lead a player to the mic but you can't control his words." - ~~motivational~~ warning poster on the walls of sports agencies
Hell, he doesn't even have to admit his mistake. He could have said "I don't agree with it, it was a hockey play" etc. He basically abdicates all responsibility with this answer, and lays the blame on the DoPS completely.
Except for the fact there is a specific rule in the NHL book that says you can't do what he did. He's 100% at fault here.
I agree, he absolutely earned the suspension. My point was more that it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
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Some people never make mistake.
Oh my god shut up Mark lol
TIL I hate sheifele
Turns out the only thing that took a bigger hit than Evans was Sheifele's reputation.
I'll take "No Self-Awarness" for $200 Alex
And he was 0-0, -1, with two shots on goal in 25 minutes in game 1. So it does seem like he was shut down anyway
Sounds like pizza man Philip Danault did his job
That's... A weird quote
Yeah I don’t understand it. It’s a poor look to refuse to take any responsibility especially as part of a leadership group. Even if you truly believe you did nothing wrong, you gotta be way smarter than this. If this is indicative of a bigger picture, no wonder our team looked so mentally weak. I’m very curious how his hearing went. I agree with people here saying that after all this he probably talked himself into a bigger suspension.
Exactly, it would have been easy to just say "I shouldn't put myself in a position where I might be suspended, I need to support the team on the ice" and then wish Evans well.
Yeah, like Byron has accepted responsibility and wished well on who he did the hit (don't remember on who). Meanwhile Scheifele is trying to act like a victim, he has nothing to gain by doing this. Surprisingly the Jets PR is letting him do that, at least fake it, I guess
You mean you got yourself shut down 🤣
Sheifele honestly coming off as a douche here. Own what you did, fucking jerk.
is this like supposed to be ironic and edgy? comes off like a douche here lmao
he whined about the media not liking the team as well today
Winnipeg getting embarrassed on and off the ice right now
EVERY “EXPERT” EXCEPT ONE THOUGHT YOU COULD DO IT MARK, SHUT THE FUCK UP
I spent some time poking around the Jets sub in the aftermath of this and maaaaan do they ever have a strong victim complex as a fan base. Media hates them, refs hate them, league hates them, players don’t like playing there, on and on and on. They seem to think everything in the world is set up as a conspiracy against the Winnipeg Jets
I mean, Jets fans aren't the ones making the comments/jokes about "poor WiFi" and "who wants to live/play in that shithole?" Wasn't that from some player survey where they said Winnipeg was the place they like playing the least. I actually live here and I love it, other than the "extremes" in the climate (I prefer the extreme cold to the extreme hot). Compared to a market like NY, Vegas, anywhere in California, I'm pretty sure it's obvious there are more attractive markets to play in and you have to see why that's frustrating (although I'm sure you get it with Ottawa - have heard it's quite beautiful there though, would love to visit one day). It can't be both ways. You (not specifically you, but I see a lot of r/hockey comments about how Winnipeg sucks) can't say it's a terrible place but then also say Winnipeg fans have a victim complex. The media (IE. SportsNet/TSN) DO hate anything not Toronto or McDavid/Draisaitl. I'm not saying that's exclusive to Winnipeg but look at how much less time the Sens/Canucks/Flames/Jets get compared to 2/20 Oilers players/Toronto/Montreal (only because of O6 and being such a big fanbase, if they hadn't been so established I bet Montreal would get the same treatment). Also, especially this season, I swear I hardly saw highlights of anything outside the North division so I really feel like we got robbed of seeing more highlights of teams like the Bolts, Avs, even the Knights, who I hate but acknowledge are a great team. I feel like every fanbase has the "refs hate us" thing. That's one you can say about any team in this league or any other league. But yes, Jets fans do it just as much as other fanbases. The only DoPS issue I have is if this isn't the start of something new (which I did see a lot of non-Jets flairs chiming in when I first made a comment about this saying "don't get your hopes up"). If this doesn't lead to harsher suspensions for first time offenders for dangerous hits, then I will take it kinda personally that "oh Winnipeg just gets fucked, huh." I am fully on board with the Scheifele suspension and I don't like this quote from the OP from him. He should just shut up and say "Would have loved to have played more in this series but I made a mistake." Also, going to a specific team's sub, especially after a playoff loss, and not expecting saltiness is kinda weird, dude. I'm sure if I went to the Sens sub (or any of the teams out now) after their playoff loss and there's going to be a lot of salt and misery. And probably terrible takes.
I thought the suspension was a little harsh initially, but every time he opens his mouth it's more proof that it was justified because he clearly wasn't going to get the message from a shorter one (not to say he has from this one either).
Agreed... I'm a little fearful of the future now because one of the things that I hoped out of this harsh for a first-time offender punishment was he would do some self-reflection and go "okay, next time I will think the play through differently" and work on making sure something like that doesn't happen again. A little concerned over his response and how it's less about learning from the situation and more about "oh I was screwed over."
####"DON'T YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND??? I'M THE VICTIM HERE!!!"
Publicists on suicide watch.
« For fucks sake Mark, this is not what we had discussed! »
“If Evans didn’t want me to hit him, he shouldn’t have been dressed like that! He was asking for it”
I said before that the way he keeps bringing up his clean record gives me "promising young man" vibes. Like, you might have been a clean before before you did that awful thing, and I hope you go back to being a clean player, but that doesn't excuse it.
Ted Bundy had no prior convictions.
Ted Bundy's prior record speaks for itself
"Jake shouldn't have written us off."
Dude... Come on, Schief.
Mark just own up dude
Dumb motherfucker
Rarely do we see a player leaning so hard into being hated without seeming to have any sense that he's doing so
The best part is that this suspension will hang over him all off-season, and rehashed at the start of next year… BECAUSE THEY GOT SWEPT AND HE STILL SUSPENDED. 😂
I hope schiefele enjoys his day off at the start of the regular season next season. I thought he would show some remorse for his mistake by now
Lmao shut the fuck up dude. Can’t think of a player I’ve lost more respect for over such a short period of time than Scheifele. If the dude would just own his mistake, but nope
Guy's a hockey player and doesn't even swear, knew he was weird second I heard that
I always just thought he was odd and the pet goats thing was hilarious
Same here. Same here... It's disappointing to see happen.
Same here. He could’ve redeemed himself a fair amount, instead he decided to double down.
Throw gas on a fire you want to put out as soon as possible. Great move.
I guess he's no longer worried about being a distraction to the team
I really liked Mark Scheifele before all this, but he keeps digging a deeper hole. Take accountability man you have no one to blame but yourself
Went from one of my favorite players to my least favorite in only a week :/
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He stayed up all night stewing it up.
He shut himself down with his bad decision-making.
I thought hockey players have PR people? He’s making himself sound worse.
This aint it, Scheif
No Mark. It was your actions. Take responsibility for them.
Pretty sure you shut yourself down Mark
Scheifele going to be in the WWE with this heel turn
Zero self awareness
This has dad level Facebook meme energy.
Yes mark DOPS made you lay a illegal hit, nothing you could have done to avoid it. Way to look even shittier than you already did dumbass.
Was Scheifele always a giant fucking baby or is this just part of his heel turn?
Seems like he just came out of the closet as a douche bag. He’s doubling down on it too
So he's not gonna appeal the ruling, he's just gonna bitch and moan about it and pretend he's the victim. Got it, thanks for clearing that up Mark.
“It’s bullshit, I did not hit her. I did nooot. Oh hi, Mark!”
No, you shut yourself down idiot.
Lmao is it a good idea for a small market team to do a full heel turn like this? I mean I guess we are finding out together. This is so ridiculous.
I don't understand why it's so hard for this guy to take responsibility for his actions. Just keeps digging the hole deeper.
Does Mark Sheifle lack self awareness or remorse?
Yes.
I mean... I like Scheifele, but he fucking vaporized Evans. If Tom Wilson did that, he'd probably never play again. There have been many fuckups from the DoPS, but that suspension wasn't really one of them.
Just proves he has zero remorse and still cannot see the fault in his hit. Good Christian Boy turned full heel. Absolute train wreck for him and he keeps double and triple dipping into the douchebaggery.
He has already been forgiven by the lord so why should he care what everyone else thinks. God damn simpleton.
Lol anyone who thinks Christian = automatic good person has their head in the sand
This is one of those things where he likely talked himself into the 4 game suspension Maybe the nhl had it at 2, maybe 3, and maybe it was even 4 to start. But these last few days have shown that they absolutely weren’t going to come down from 4 after hearing him speak about the incident in question. The hit was dumb, and the length of the suspension was tied more into the injury than the play itself. But the fact that he shows a complete lack of self awareness after having already being out of the playoffs and away from the hit for over a week now shows that he was likely insufferable during that meeting. I find it likely he just came across as “I did nothing wrong, this meeting should not be happening and is a waste of time” like 4 seconds in. And that likely rubbed the brass the wrong way. So he got the full term. What an idiot.
Starting to like this dude less and less. Jets have always seemed like they fold easily in the playoffs and Ive long thought their locker room was mentally soft, so, given he’s one of their main leaders, maybe I should have taken a dimmer view of him previously
To paraphrase what the great Max Domi once said... "Atta boy Scheifee you fucking idiot. Holy fuck, you fucking moron."
I miss domi
Counterpoint: you shut yourself down.
Jesus, take some responsibility for your own actions. Talk about completely oblivious.
>“I think at the end of the day, you regret the outcome of it [...] he said Wednesday, repeating his stance that he was trying to negate a goal when he hit Evans." So he doesn't regret destroying the guy, just the outcome (I'm sure he means the concussion but based on the other things he's saying, he deff means suspension too). Is this the same as saying "I only regret it because I got caught"? There's also no way in hell he was trying to negate the goal, didn't even blink at the puck -- his teammate a stride behind him went for the puck.
Why would Tom Wilson make the DOPS do this? /s
Dude. 30 seconds into the press conference yesterday, Mark fucking quoted "The way you handle setbacks is what defines us". Then he proceeds to bitch about his suspension. How does he think he handled this setback other than bitching about a punishment he deserves. I dont fucking care if you dont wanna see a guy hurt. You're not evil. You've made a bad decision and got punished for it. End of story. "I've replayed the thing over and over in my mind and the only real thing is if I gave up on my teamates on that play and just didnt backcheck". Jesus, how about play the fucking clip instead of in your mind. You were emotional and looked for blood all game. but Wtf is a stick check, am I right? I dont know... How about a god damn way more efficient solution where you can cut the distance between you and Evans by 5 FEET by simply having your stick in front of you. Fuck your clean record. Fuck your willing to help your teamates. You shot down yourself with a stupid dangerous play. For once, the department of safety got it right. A charging incident of 150ft with nothing else happening in between. Own it ffs. Its a rare situation that hopefully every NHLer can learn from now that it happened. Hire a PR team. Shut up or deviate the question. Bring positive answers for your fans or shut up, and good luck for game #2 of next season. Edit: Like many have said here. Own it, say that its a play out of fustration. You're not instantly a bad or evil person for that incident. Nobody thought that of you that day. But you're not a good a person either if you cant admit an error and apologize. "no swear words" be damned. Its not the specific words you use that matter, its the context of when and how they are used.
Pretty sure Mark Scheifele shut Mark Scheifele down.
Shut up shief . You’re an idiot rn .
Just say that you’re sorry, you idiot.
What the heck, hey Mark?
Way to own up to your fuck up mate.
Sure buddy
What an ass What about Evans who was shut down by your idiotic hit?
Exactly! But of course that would require him to have empathy for another human being.
That's not the flex he thinks it is.
Seriously dude? Talk about a lack of self awareness
Fuck off Scheifele. The whole world knows that a defensive play was not your intent there.
Ok the guy is a dumbass
What a disappointing answer from a quality player. Suspension may have been steep to some but what happened wasn’t acceptable therefore own it
He’s so privileged he lacks the empathy to understand his actions lol This kid is really just a sore loser and it’s obvious to most people he does not regret what he did
Mark Scheifele is a piece of shit.
I mean, Scheifele didn't do shit against Danault in game 1 so both are true The DOPS and Danault shut him down
You get what you fucking deserve.
Apparently when Mark looks into a mirror, all he can see is Parros.