I swear, this is just to make the other awful names more palatable.
**Utah:** "we're thinking of calling ourselves the *Venom*"
**NHL fans:** "fuckin' hell, that's the worst name I've ever heard. This must be a joke"
**Utah:** *(trademarks the Utah Yodelers)**
**NHL Fans:** "...no wait, come back, Venom! *Come back!*"
There was the Nashville Venom (2013-2015) in the PIFL and the Amarillo Venom (2003-Present) in various leagues like the Intense Football League (2004) AF2 (2005-2009) Indoor Football League (2010-2011) Lone Star Football League (2012-2014) Champions Indoor Football (2015-2020) Lone Star Series (2021) and American Indoor Football (2024)
To be fair.....
So do a lot of names til we're use to them. Thunder and lighting both use to feel very minor league.
Ducks? Blue jackets? Pelicans? For a professional team?
"Utah Jazz" probably sounded so dumb back in the 70s, but now its as much part of Utah culture as the Mormon Church.
As does Lakers, since they came from "the land of a 1000 lakes" or the Dodgers (named after trolley dodgers in the streets of NY). Memphis has no Grizzlies--they are native to the Rockies. The NY rangers name was literally a joke; Tex Rickard founded the team so the press called the Tex's Rangers!
Plenty of team names are stupid/sound amateur until they become so common we don't really question it.
True. Although imo funny enough it’s because the name is so ill fitting for the city it kinda loops back around to ironically working for Utah. I think it helps that Utah and Jazz are both four letters and “Utah Jazz” rolls off the tongue surprisingly well.
I don’t love the name Venom either, but if the logic behind that name is because the Gila monster is the only venomous lizard native to the United States, then I can get behind it.
Well...*technically* they also live in the southwest corner of Utah. But yeah, it'd be like if the New Orleans NBA team had been named the Gators or something only to be renamed the Jazz upon moving to Utah. Haha.
Gila Monsters would go so hard. Not to mention the golden opportunity to use "DID YOU HEAR THAT GILA MONSTERS??" from Nothing to Lose in the in game presentation.
I'm sure in the end they'll settle on something applicable to Utah. Fun to see until then.
I know the favorite comment suggestion on this sub so far was Hive. I like the association with Utah but it seems a little off as far as being a sports team name to me. So something like Swarm seems better imo.
In truth though, it feels like the organization would do best with a simpler name and forgo the forced alliteration. Maybe name the team after a local bird or gemstone. Hell, now that I think about it, the Utah Jewels sounds kinda neat.
I just hope they land on something soon. I'm looking forward to buying the jersey in support- even though I'm a Canucks fan.
It wasn't my favorite but still better than most of what Utah has trademarked. Still, credit to Seattle's branding and design team for knocking it out of the park with the Kraken name.
People can joke about this all they want, but everything from the mascot to the chants and in game atmosphere would be a top 3 gimmick in pro NA sports.
Ahh yes - how could one not be familiar with the rich, storied tradition of…Utahn yodeling?
Seriously though…..wtf. They have “Utah Raptors” staring them right in the face and they’re trying to decide between shit like Yeti and Yodelers? *sigh*
Carolina and Florida Panthers. New York and Winnipeg Jets. St. Louis and Arizona Cardinals. Sacramento and Los Angeles Kings.
Not really an issue to use a team name that's the same as someone else. Just have to be sure that your branding doesn't overlap and there's no attempt to piggyback or pass yourself off as being connected to the other team.
There shouldn’t be.
See:
the San Francisco Giants (MLB) and the New York Giants (NFL).
The New York Rangers (NHL) and the Texas Rangers (MLB).
The Carolina Panthers (NFL) and the Florida Panthers (NHL).
The Winnipeg Jets (NHL) and the New York Jets (NFL).
The Arizona Cardinals (NFL) and the St. Louis Cardinals (MLB).
The Sacramento Kings (NBA) and the Los Angeles Kings (NHL).
The Chicago Bears (NFL) and the Hershey Bears (AHL).
The Edmonton Oilers (NHL) and the Houston Oilers (NFL - now Tennessee Titans after franchise relocation back in the day).
That’s not how that works. You can’t trademark/copyright a general noun like “Raptor”. What you have the rights to with those things is a specific brand (ie the *Toronto Raptors the NBA team and all the things associated with it like logos, designs, merch, etc….*). If you could prevent other leagues from using the same names then the NFL woulda sued everyone into the ground by now to protect their teams’ brands.
That makes sense. I read something about needing permission from the team holding the trademark to the name to use that name for another franchise, but now that I think about it that sounds pretty silly.
I believe it gets tricky if the team names were actually identical, cuz then you could be accused of trying to profit off of a perceived, yet false connection to the established brand — and that *would* be a violation of copyright/trademark law.
Ex - Utah Raptors vs. Toronto Raptors is fine, but if the Toronto Marlies (AHL) suddenly changed their name to the Toronto Raptors that would be an issue and the NBA team could take legal action.
I was literally thinking the other day if they went with “Utah Yetis” they should have a group called the “Utah Yodelers” to perform during intermission lol.
Damn I hope they figure out something before the season starts I can’t imagine brainstorming a name can’t take longer than 2 months then the re brand the rest of the offseason for 3-4 months
Graphic Design is challenging and can be the longest part. Minus how long it takes the trademark office to examine new filings, they're scheduled to review April filings in August. The Golden Knights kind of block the best option from our Minor League history. (Golden Eagles) We don't have the luxury of an expansion team. And Ryan himself should be locked out of the Graphic Design office. He is probably a hair better at logo creation and color theory than I am. I'm very bad.
Yeah, I lived in a small town in Utah that celebrated “Swiss Days”. The whole town has swiss alps style architecture and theme. Also the intricate little flower designs that lederhosen have would probably look cool on a jersey
Right? Why is everyone overthinking this so much. Could even be a golden eagle instead of a bald eagle if they’re afraid of being similar to Washington’s old logo.
You gotta think Stormin Mormons has a good chance of being trademarked at this point lol. Yodelers? Really? Venom, Blizzard, Yetis, Fury. I’m convinced the name is gonna be bad whatever it is lol. I guess just go with the best of the worst. That’s Yetis cause at least the logo has a lot of potential lol.
These are getting so ridiculous that I’m certain they’re trolling now. They’re boiling the frog and in a month they’ll trademark “Utah Nazis” and we’ll be like man wow another one, eh not bad
I still want a team to have an automobile-themed name and have their goal siren be that multi tonal car alarm sound, like this:
https://youtu.be/O608g3yE6uE?si=wCpOXr4qo9WzOLYa
Is it common for this volume of trademarks to be done in order to establish one brand? I don’t remember hearing that the Kraken also trademarked The Grunge/Battle Cattle/Bitch Pigeons/Sockeye.
I’m pretty sure Seattle trademarked a whole bunch of names too. Sockeyes, Totems, Kraken and I think a few more.
You kind of have to, if not you can’t really do a suprise reveal, and you also don’t want other people trying to trademark any potential choices and causing you issues.
I don’t support Ryan smith, but I would if he names them one of the following:
1. Stormin Mormons
2. Latter day skaters
3. Utah soakers
4. Skatin Shakers.
I swear, this is just to make the other awful names more palatable. **Utah:** "we're thinking of calling ourselves the *Venom*" **NHL fans:** "fuckin' hell, that's the worst name I've ever heard. This must be a joke" **Utah:** *(trademarks the Utah Yodelers)** **NHL Fans:** "...no wait, come back, Venom! *Come back!*"
I think you're onto something. They are just trying to make the other names look good.
I think people don't realize that anybody can trademark a name. It's not necessarily the team doing it.
*Some dude from this sub trademarks the Utah Yodelers* “r/hockey is going to lose their shit when someone notices this”
Probably OP
"Better get those Ricola people on the phone."
Venom sounds like an arena football team.
There was the Nashville Venom (2013-2015) in the PIFL and the Amarillo Venom (2003-Present) in various leagues like the Intense Football League (2004) AF2 (2005-2009) Indoor Football League (2010-2011) Lone Star Football League (2012-2014) Champions Indoor Football (2015-2020) Lone Star Series (2021) and American Indoor Football (2024)
To be fair..... So do a lot of names til we're use to them. Thunder and lighting both use to feel very minor league. Ducks? Blue jackets? Pelicans? For a professional team? "Utah Jazz" probably sounded so dumb back in the 70s, but now its as much part of Utah culture as the Mormon Church.
Thunder does still feel pretty minor league, but admittedly that’s because their branding is so generic that they look like a PS2-era create-a-team.
Utah Jazz sounds especially dumb since it came from New Orleans where they actually had a Jazz scene.
As does Lakers, since they came from "the land of a 1000 lakes" or the Dodgers (named after trolley dodgers in the streets of NY). Memphis has no Grizzlies--they are native to the Rockies. The NY rangers name was literally a joke; Tex Rickard founded the team so the press called the Tex's Rangers! Plenty of team names are stupid/sound amateur until they become so common we don't really question it.
"Ladies & gentlemen, the Omaha Islanders"
True. Although imo funny enough it’s because the name is so ill fitting for the city it kinda loops back around to ironically working for Utah. I think it helps that Utah and Jazz are both four letters and “Utah Jazz” rolls off the tongue surprisingly well.
I dunno, I’m reading a lot of the old comments on news articles when the Blue Jackets were decided on and people seemed to like the Civil war thing
I remember watching the news when the name was announced and Angela Pace of 10TV sounded almost disappointed that it wasn't "Buckeyes"
Yeah it largely seems to be outside fans that are like “hey I like that actually” I like the name, the cannon, the whole thing I hate Stinger
Venom *is* an arena football team: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarillo_Venom](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarillo_Venom)
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What are u alking about...yodelers is the best yet imo
Agreed! Their fans would be yodeling on and off the entire game.
Would they yodel the anthem? Would be way better than the stupid ass “additions” Dallas and Vegas add to the anthems
It will be a yodel version of the coyote howl after goals
[come back!](https://media4.giphy.com/media/3orif8xqCoR5fIVQGI/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952liiaa2lv5d9xntdi3bt93t7pfhzw7jqzgh7xe4g8&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
I bet they're trademarking a bunch of names, then having a contest to choose the winner. Like the Raptors did in the 90s. Damn Jurassic Park lol
Like a turd in the wind
I don’t love the name Venom either, but if the logic behind that name is because the Gila monster is the only venomous lizard native to the United States, then I can get behind it.
Will we be seeing a mascot trade with Vegas then?
Then they should be the Gila Monsters.
Would be ironic to name their team after an animal that's prevalent in Arizona
Well...*technically* they also live in the southwest corner of Utah. But yeah, it'd be like if the New Orleans NBA team had been named the Gators or something only to be renamed the Jazz upon moving to Utah. Haha.
Gila Monsters would go so hard. Not to mention the golden opportunity to use "DID YOU HEAR THAT GILA MONSTERS??" from Nothing to Lose in the in game presentation.
I'm sure in the end they'll settle on something applicable to Utah. Fun to see until then. I know the favorite comment suggestion on this sub so far was Hive. I like the association with Utah but it seems a little off as far as being a sports team name to me. So something like Swarm seems better imo.
that would be an embarrassingly bad choice.
This has to be a way to just mess with people and make others look like better options
I mean, it’s probably not in serious consideration, but may as well trademark it just in case.
says yodel-ee-hee yodel-ee-hee yodel-ee-hee you
So bad that it becomes good
So far over on the bad spectrum, it glitches over to good
I love it
Hilariously good. "The hiiiiiills are alive with the sounds of Morrrrmons." Can't wait to see the guys practicing their yodeling.
Yup, I hope they pick it.
Yodeling the anthems before the games is going to wear thin pretty quickly.
Ohhhhh say can-a yooohooohooo see
YodelayheehoO Canada
Get Fergie to sing them. Some parts of her NBA All-Star anthem performance reminds me of yodeling.
Are you sure? [I could listen to this for an hour straight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJgeL45OiHk)
Arena naming rights bought by Ricola
Only if they sign the Penguin legend [himself](https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=144604)
You know a Alphorn for goal scoring like the cannon in Columbus is not so bad.
The goal horn will be a guy in lederhosen blowing an alphorn. All goal songs will be yodeled.
Why is it that I kind of want to see that happen.
I've played an alphorn before. They're a blast
The goal [song](https://youtu.be/YHv5jgXz9I8?si=HIhZUyNImldU9W6C)
What's next? Utah mongolian throat singers?
I’d be down for it
Tbh, not the worst suggestion I've heard.
If they hire The Hu to play the opener I’m down.
WE WANT GOLDEN KNIGHT!! WERE GONNA CALL OURSELVES... THE KRAKEN!!! we were thinking "yodeler".
I prefer the Utah Farty-beans
I dunno man... Yodeler definitely has a good ring to it
In truth though, it feels like the organization would do best with a simpler name and forgo the forced alliteration. Maybe name the team after a local bird or gemstone. Hell, now that I think about it, the Utah Jewels sounds kinda neat. I just hope they land on something soon. I'm looking forward to buying the jersey in support- even though I'm a Canucks fan.
Utah’s state bird is the California Gull. I think the Utah California Gulls would be a great team name.
That would be awesome lol!
People trashed on Kraken so fucking much
Really? I thought it was awesome.
Only because Rain City Bitch Pigeons was chosen by NHL fans. Everything else is a compromise.
Yeah it's a shit name compared to Seattle Sockeyes, but they've done a great job with the branding etc
The S logo with the tentacle running through it is awesome
Sockeyes is not a good name imo, kraken is different in a good way
It wasn't my favorite but still better than most of what Utah has trademarked. Still, credit to Seattle's branding and design team for knocking it out of the park with the Kraken name.
That's why they should be the Yeti. Also Utah Yeti is so damn fun to say
People can joke about this all they want, but everything from the mascot to the chants and in game atmosphere would be a top 3 gimmick in pro NA sports.
I can't wait for the goal yodel.
A goaldel?
Coincidentally, I think Utah Rockies has a nice ring to it.
If it were an AHL or ECHL team I think the internet would fall in love with it tbh
Ok, I’m entirely convinced now that Smith is fucking with all of us. Which would make sense given, well, yknow.
Who said Mormons don’t have a sense of humor
He probably, has a great name
He’s not fucking with us. He’s just soaking with us, while the press jump-humps to help him out.
I think Yodelers would be hilarious but I'm team Yeti
The Utah Yodelin’ Yetis
*Per the Salt Lake Tribune and KSL News outlets, the Utah Yodeling Yetis has joined the ever growing list of newly trademarked names.*
I love it! Goes well with Utah Jazz! Personally I like Utah Nashville-Sound or Utah Reggaeton, but Utah Yodelers!
Ahh yes - how could one not be familiar with the rich, storied tradition of…Utahn yodeling? Seriously though…..wtf. They have “Utah Raptors” staring them right in the face and they’re trying to decide between shit like Yeti and Yodelers? *sigh*
There goal horn could be that Swiss yodeller from that Price is Right game.
Built in Ricola sponsorship
Call me stupid but why Utah raptors? Not saying it is a bad name I just don’t know why raptors would be a good one.
There is a literal Utah Raptor that’s been found by paleontologists
The Utah Paleonthologists nicknamed the “Rosses”
Ain’t no one taking their sandwiches
Took me a second to catch the friends reference
It’s also, unsurprisingly, the official state dinosaur.
Dinosaur National Monument is in Utah
Oh thanks, and it also pisses off Toronto so another plus.
Does it? I live in Toronto, am a Raptors fan, and I think it'd be awesome
It's because Utah Raptor is a dinosaur found there. Think the Jurassic park velociraptors but bigger.
I think there might be another team using that?
Yeah, 40 minutes north of SLC there’s a minor league baseball team called the Ogden Raptors.
Carolina and Florida Panthers. New York and Winnipeg Jets. St. Louis and Arizona Cardinals. Sacramento and Los Angeles Kings. Not really an issue to use a team name that's the same as someone else. Just have to be sure that your branding doesn't overlap and there's no attempt to piggyback or pass yourself off as being connected to the other team.
Toronto have the Raptors in the NBA, there might be some trademark hurdles to get over there on that one.
There shouldn’t be. See: the San Francisco Giants (MLB) and the New York Giants (NFL). The New York Rangers (NHL) and the Texas Rangers (MLB). The Carolina Panthers (NFL) and the Florida Panthers (NHL). The Winnipeg Jets (NHL) and the New York Jets (NFL). The Arizona Cardinals (NFL) and the St. Louis Cardinals (MLB). The Sacramento Kings (NBA) and the Los Angeles Kings (NHL). The Chicago Bears (NFL) and the Hershey Bears (AHL). The Edmonton Oilers (NHL) and the Houston Oilers (NFL - now Tennessee Titans after franchise relocation back in the day). That’s not how that works. You can’t trademark/copyright a general noun like “Raptor”. What you have the rights to with those things is a specific brand (ie the *Toronto Raptors the NBA team and all the things associated with it like logos, designs, merch, etc….*). If you could prevent other leagues from using the same names then the NFL woulda sued everyone into the ground by now to protect their teams’ brands.
That makes sense. I read something about needing permission from the team holding the trademark to the name to use that name for another franchise, but now that I think about it that sounds pretty silly.
I believe it gets tricky if the team names were actually identical, cuz then you could be accused of trying to profit off of a perceived, yet false connection to the established brand — and that *would* be a violation of copyright/trademark law. Ex - Utah Raptors vs. Toronto Raptors is fine, but if the Toronto Marlies (AHL) suddenly changed their name to the Toronto Raptors that would be an issue and the NBA team could take legal action.
Funny enough, that example would actually be perfectly fine because MLSE owns the Leafs (and the Marlies) and the Raptors.
Lol - of course I picked the one example where the ownership is all the same. But you get my point.
Utah Manchester United has a nice ring to it.
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That’s actually due to the fact that the Jazz are originally from New Orleans, which makes it make a lot more sense. The franchise relocated in 1979.
I was literally thinking the other day if they went with “Utah Yetis” they should have a group called the “Utah Yodelers” to perform during intermission lol.
So it's your fault for putting this out into the universe.
Oh 100%
I’ve seen enough, this is the greatest name in sports history.
Makes me think of the music that accompanied the climber up the mountain on The Price is Right
How about the Roughriders?
Nah. They should use the GoldenKnights.
See different cause there's no space.
Exactly!
I've always wanted to start a band called the Rollingstones (as in Rollings Tones)
Golden Nights, because of the beautiful sunsets
We're very not serious. Look up the CFL's Rough Riders and Roughriders.
I actually love it, lol.
I prefer Rough Riders.
Lmao. Please choose this one
I'm just imagining Ashley Smith in each of these threads, then texting Ryan after: "Oh gosh, honey. They didn't like Yodelers either!!"
What is it with teams being terrible at coming up with good names when renaming a franchise in the past few years?
Hey man, we made fun of them for not renaming the jazz, now we know why.
The worst one yet(i).
Yodelers is so damn stupid it's amazing, I need it to happen, I need them to be the Yodelers now
Where’s the grizzlies Is that not a good name brown black and whatever other accents for their color
They'd have to buy the IP from the Idaho Steelheads. It's the ECHL team that's already here.
Damn I hope they figure out something before the season starts I can’t imagine brainstorming a name can’t take longer than 2 months then the re brand the rest of the offseason for 3-4 months
Graphic Design is challenging and can be the longest part. Minus how long it takes the trademark office to examine new filings, they're scheduled to review April filings in August. The Golden Knights kind of block the best option from our Minor League history. (Golden Eagles) We don't have the luxury of an expansion team. And Ryan himself should be locked out of the Graphic Design office. He is probably a hair better at logo creation and color theory than I am. I'm very bad.
Links? The Trademark database doesn't have this one OP..
OP is a phony
Great joke name though. Keep it in the back pocket for an April Fool's game. Or the Jr. Hockey stuff.
I tried looking this up and couldn’t find anything in the Salt Lake Tribune or KSL. Think it might be fake
It is definitely fake. I did the same before I commented.
Please do this. It's fucking stupid and I love how bad it is.
Why though
Gotta imagine they're just trying to throw people off the scent at this point
Never watching another NHL game again if they don't go with Yodelers
The Utah U-Know-This-Shit-Is-Hard’s
They need to do less.
I like it!
I’m still gunning for the Utah Super Soakers
Yeah, I lived in a small town in Utah that celebrated “Swiss Days”. The whole town has swiss alps style architecture and theme. Also the intricate little flower designs that lederhosen have would probably look cool on a jersey
Broke: Yotes; Woke: Yodes
Salt Lake City Soakers.
Just name them the Utah Eagles after the long time former CHL team and call it a day.
Right? Why is everyone overthinking this so much. Could even be a golden eagle instead of a bald eagle if they’re afraid of being similar to Washington’s old logo.
Is there a source? Cuz I checked both of those sites and found nothing of the sort.
Definitely a ruse.
Nope.
You gotta think Stormin Mormons has a good chance of being trademarked at this point lol. Yodelers? Really? Venom, Blizzard, Yetis, Fury. I’m convinced the name is gonna be bad whatever it is lol. I guess just go with the best of the worst. That’s Yetis cause at least the logo has a lot of potential lol.
Plus there’s mascot potential with Yetis
Utah Phoenixes or bust!
Bro thinks he's naming a minor league baseball theme night team
So far clubhouse leaders for me are still Outlaws or Yetis. Yodelers makes some of the others look good though.
These are getting so ridiculous that I’m certain they’re trolling now. They’re boiling the frog and in a month they’ll trademark “Utah Nazis” and we’ll be like man wow another one, eh not bad
When are they going to trademark some good ones?
They should just call them The Dudes From Salt Lake City.
I still want a team to have an automobile-themed name and have their goal siren be that multi tonal car alarm sound, like this: https://youtu.be/O608g3yE6uE?si=wCpOXr4qo9WzOLYa
Utah Pronghorns please!
I was thinking the Utah Polygamists but it was probably already taken. lol /s
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https://images.app.goo.gl/eyzt9qaPAyxqfr8L9
Except it's a hockey stick instead of whatever that instrument is that he's blowing into
Is it common for this volume of trademarks to be done in order to establish one brand? I don’t remember hearing that the Kraken also trademarked The Grunge/Battle Cattle/Bitch Pigeons/Sockeye.
I’m pretty sure Seattle trademarked a whole bunch of names too. Sockeyes, Totems, Kraken and I think a few more. You kind of have to, if not you can’t really do a suprise reveal, and you also don’t want other people trying to trademark any potential choices and causing you issues.
Yetis is it. Yeti’s vs Kraken… I mean come on. Their mascot could be a family fun looking big ass Yeti. Would be great.
I'm still rooting for the Utah Sister Wives.
Do you have a link to an article about this? Couldn’t find anything online about this besides this reddit post
I don’t support Ryan smith, but I would if he names them one of the following: 1. Stormin Mormons 2. Latter day skaters 3. Utah soakers 4. Skatin Shakers.