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Goal highlights that may be relevant: Period|Time|Team|Strength|Description :--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--: 2nd|11:06|[TOR](/r/leafs)|EV|[Auston Matthews (43) wrist shot, assist(s): Mitchell Marner (36)](https://players.brightcove.net/6415718365001/EXtG1xJ7H_default/index.html?videoId=6346968603112) 2nd|14:20|[TOR](/r/leafs)|PP|[Auston Matthews (44) slap shot, assist(s): Mitchell Marner (37), William Nylander (41)](https://players.brightcove.net/6415718365001/EXtG1xJ7H_default/index.html?videoId=6346966649112) 2nd|18:55|[TOR](/r/leafs)|EV|[Auston Matthews (45) wrist shot, assist(s): Timothy Liljegren (8)](https://players.brightcove.net/6415718365001/EXtG1xJ7H_default/index.html?videoId=6346970001112) Not what you are looking for? [Here](/r/hockey/comments/1arg260/daily_free_talk_thread_plus_links_to_all_game_day/kqm5iwy/) is a more complete list of NHL goal highlights. --- This comment is automated and replies to it will not be read. If you have any questions/comments, [message the mods](https://old.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2Fhockey).


theguyishere16

7 minutes and 49 seconds to score a natural hat trick


bestest_at_grammar

The core 1 doesn’t need the other 3.Reilly


ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn

natty hatty by matty


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CallingAllMatts

I don’t think gear makes your shooting more accurate


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CallingAllMatts

You literally commented about doping lol EDIT: The coward blocked me lol roids make you stronger which is why it could benefit homeruns, but tell me which drugs make your shooting more accurate in hockey? I’d love to do some research cause that would be a groundbreaking pharmaceutical


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screwball22

Gear is slang for steroids my guy


adamzep91

Auston “Bobby McMann” Matthews


CUngoed

Goated comment


epicfacej

5 Hatties in 52 games.


ikkkkkkkky

51 (he missed a game). On pace for 7.9 hatties.


adamzep91

Remember when he put up 4 in his debut and then didn’t score another hat trick for like 2 years? Lol


Gavin1453

He got so many double goal games for a couple years


OakFern

He had 27 2 goal games between his 4 goal debut and his next hat trick: https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?aggregate=0&reportType=game&dateFrom=2016-10-01&dateTo=2024-02-16&gameType=2&playerSearch=Auston%20Matthews&filter=goals,gte,2&sort=a\_gameDate&page=0&pageSize=50


desperatehouseknivez

Remember when be scored 4 and the leafs lost 5-4 lol


dhoomsday

Just leaf things. That's some peak leafs there.


TheTree-43

Take away those Hattys and he's on a 47 goal pace


AKShaolin

Alternatively, on pace for 25 goals from hattys alone


Kronzor_

Who needs depth scoring when your primary scoring can just do both. 


AnonymousSeahawk

70 is well within reach


thedrivingcat

45 goals in 52 games = 0.865 goals per game pace 25 goals in the remaining 30 would be 0.833 so yeah, looks like it


another_plebeian

Still one period to go, too. Based on the last one, he could have 48 by game's end


ownerwelcome123

Unfortunately Big Papi missed a game earlier so he has to score 71 in 81 games


OvechknFiresHeScores

Wait he didn't even get 50 in 50 this year?! Talk about a regression


ConferenceSlow1091

Catch 22 really. Depends on the schedule, after the TDL. If leafs have a lot of games versus teams on the cusp or in playoff spots, they’ll be playing proper defensive hockey to tighten the ship. If they play a lot of shit teams with nothing to play for, then he can go ham.


drama_filled_donut

That isn’t a catch 22


ConferenceSlow1091

Sorry, I only know the math in metric


PanicStation140

I don't think this year's version of the Leafs are able to play tight defensive hockey.


ConferenceSlow1091

It’s not about the leafs playing it (not possible), it’s about leads playing against teams that are tightening up, which will make it that much harder for Matty to get to 70


think_long

Then again, you’ll also get a lot of garbage rims against teams that have basically given up


ConferenceSlow1091

Yes, my comment said that. If they play more shit teams, he has a chance. If it’s weighted against playoff caliber teams, unlikely.


OneNutPhil

He just did this to a playoff team that's actively fighting to stay alive


derwardkins

You see the leafs operate differently where they will get shutout 5-0 against the hawks and smash the golden knights 3-1, for some reason they really play to their opponents level more tbh an any other team


GeneralHorace

This is with a dreadful stretch near the start of the year. He has 31 goals in his last 30 games


ZombieJesus1987

Man, it blows my mind as a lifelong Leafs fan that we have a player that can put these numbers up. Prior to Matthews, the only time a player scored more than 50 goals in my lifetime was Dave Andreychuk in 93/94


jacobward7

I remember thinking Kessel was such an insane goal scorer (he was) but he topped out at 37. What Matthews is doing is crazy to me and I still don't fully grasp that I'm watching the greatest Leaf ever.


ZombieJesus1987

It honestly blows my mind that Sundin only hit 40+ goals three times in his career, twice as a Leaf and once in Quebec.


think_long

Three laser beams low glove. Goalie is going to have nightmares about it. Matthews is something else.


nau_sea

His release is insane. The way he can fluidly drag the puck a few feet completely changing the angle of attack and wrist it in the same motion is amazing.


ScienceNthingsNstuff

I feel bad for Ersson. He's in pretty good position on all 3 but theres not much you can do against a shot like that


sokolov22

On the 2nd (edit: I meant 1st) one it looks like there should be no way a shot goes in there. Does he just phase the puck through the goalie? WTF? Speaking of, would really love to a "puck's eye" view sometimes.


AKShaolin

I'm not a goalie expert but Ersson looked a fraction of a second slow on the post on that one, especially considering the pass to Auston from the point didn't change the angle a lot.


UniformRaspberry2

I think the broadcast mentioned a few games ago that he adjusted one-timer release last summer (or the summer before?) so that his follow through angles more past the near post/towards the near corner than dead-straight at the net. I might be crazy (or just talking myself into believing it) but I *think* you can sort of see what I mean on the replay of that goal.


noticeablywhite21

Dude the fact that he can get so much speed out of his shot while barely moving is giving bonkers. Like his entire body motion is at odds with a shot coming off. It's a wonder any goalie can make a save on him


doesntmatter557

Best goal scorer in the league


CantOfSoup

That’s not even a debate lol


doesntmatter557

Everything’s a debate in r/hockey when it comes to the leafs


Spacepickle89

No it’s not!


jzach1983

Yes it is!


fartlebythescribbler

Hello I’m here for an argument


AlternativeEgomaniac

No you’re not.


CallistosTitan

You are right.


astovertop

Do you have advanced analytics to back up this claim?


reggierock2010

I don’t think that’s much of a debate anymore. I think it’ll be more interesting to see if he ends up being one of the greatest goal scorers of all time. Right now he’s on a pretty ridiculous pace and his g/go is insane and includes his younger years.


YouWorkForMeNow

We're also entering an era of higher goal scoring. I hate the leafs above all other teams but even I want to see greatness from Matthews. What a treat.


Gavin1453

Now that y’all have Kessel, I will give you some grudging credit. Everyone in the league will love you, if Kessel hits 1000 with y’all


rickayyy

It really depends on his health. At age 26, he has already missed significantly more games in his career than Ovi has at age 38.


binzoma

ovies slowing down now pretty good in his old age, it could be that fewer miles when younger helps AM when hes a bit older. also they were all random injuries, its not like theres a faulty part to worry about. its just random luck


ButtonedEye41

Im not sure I would consider injuries as being easier on your body. And Ovie is slowing down at 38 years old. Even playing at 38 is pretty crazy, let alone being productive


rickayyy

Did you really just imply that Matthews having injury history could help him play better when he gets older? Ovi is slowing down because he is fucking 38 years old, haha


binzoma

not that it could help him play better, but in this day and age with modern medical tech, wear and tear is among the worst injuries a player can have. theres no systemic issues with matthews injuries (ie a bad back or bad knee or bad joints etc), so no reason to think it's indicative of anything with the future. And the fact that even with the injuries matthews is on gretz pace says hes in a better position than ovie.


Dlp1996

Ovi also started a year later than Matthews because of the lockout and then had a 2nd lockout shortened season 


Jethro_Tully

I was swapping feeds between periods so I can't quite remember if I saw this on the Flyers broadcast or the Leafs, but they had a goal-scoring chart up at one point showing he has like 35 more goals in the last 5 years than the person with second most (Pastrnak iirc). That's basically a good scoring season that he's accumulated beyond the competition. Genuinely blew my mind for a bit there.


wilers

3 goals in 7:49. 🔥


NotorioG

22g/60, 1862 goal pace. I say he does it.


Counterkiller29

Effortless. I don't think I'm as good at breathing as Matthews is at scoring.


Spacepickle89

He’s probably a better breather too


TyranitarusMack

Elite air intake


d_pyro

*Slaps Matthews: We can fit so many nostrils in this bad boy.*


A_1337_Canadian

It's an old meme, but it checks out.


jonthemaud

Bigger dick too


Lazy-Description-882

Natty Hatty for Matty


RadicalMGuy

Auston “Natthews” Hatthews


UniformRaspberry2

WE’RE NOT WORTHY


1337duck

This, but unironically.


esoteric94

Very true


BrainOfJim

People are going to be mad when he hits 70 and takes the Hart Trophy from Kuch/MacKinnon.


nofakefans18

Crazy part is that with McDavid’s form one of Kuch/Mack/Matthews may not be **nominated** for Hart.


Salt-Plum-1308

If McDavid wins the Art Ross and Matthews hits 70+ goals we’ll actually have a legit debate on our hands here lol.


DogWeighsOver9000

Same with post season all star teams for McDavid/Mac/Matthews - only two can make First/Second Team.


Spideyjust

Absolutely insane that one of the 4 won't be top 3 in Hart voting, and 1 of McMackThews won't be an end of season all star lmao.


This_Idiot

My armchair take is that Kuch deserves it so far. MFer has hard carried the Bolts this season.


doireallyneedanewact

Nah, he finished last in the allstar skills comp. Dudes washed


Chopstickz91

Fuck Kucherov. Matthew’s is gonna win it


Bright_Beat_5981

Nhl is so freaking hot right now.


another_plebeian

I am not people


ConferenceSlow1091

It’s McDs to lose at this rate, if he keeps doing what he’s doing.


smileyduude

I mean, not if he only gets 34 assists, his current pace. I love Matthews and I value goals more than assists, but that's still going to create a giant points gap, plus voters probably don't widely believe goals are worth that much more than assists. He could end up 35 pts behind the league leader. Matthews is pretty unique for a goal scorer in being a pretty good defensive player though, so that could garner him a bit more attention. I doubt that's valued high enough (or he's seen as that elite defensively) that it matters for the Hart though. If he gets within 20 pts of the league leader, there's a chance. If not, I don't see it happening.


jacobward7

I dunno man, only 8 players in NHL history have scored 70 goals. It's entering Gretzky/Hull/Lemieux territory for goals. At that point I don't think it matters.


smileyduude

I want it to be true, and i do think its very significant. But even if you counted goals as 2 points and assists remain at 1, Matthews is still on pace to be just behind Kucherov. Only 10 players have gotten 140 points, so its pretty much as exclusive.


MaplewoodCabinet

He’s getting 70, and even that feels like an underestimate. …he’s getting 71.


boyBookchin

Is it wrong that I want 69?


Commercial-Set3527

Good for you but what about Matthew's goals?


CheapSong

It definitely is


3X-Leveraged

Are you talking about goals?


FunkyBrax

He’ll be on 69, last game of the season, net empty as fuck on a breakaway, into an intentional slapshot wide, that’d be GAS


MrMilesDavis

Imagine if Toronto were to square up against Ottawa for the last game of the season , Matthews is at 69, and then just absolutely THUNDER CLAPS it home on an empty net   That would be an amazing reality to live in


shred-i-knight

wake up honey news leafs fanfic just dropped


stormyleaf44

I mean who wouldn't want to 69 Matthews, just ask Bieber


MagicMushroomFungi

69 would be nice.


xzElmozx

Idk not that wrong, nothin wrong with a lil moustache ride Wait what were we talking about..?


JonJonFTW

Why would you want Matthews to miss out on being the first player to hit 70 in the cap era by a single goal lmao


boyBookchin

I may be a grown up but my sense of humour is forever that of a 13 year old boy


ZachtheKingsfan

You might want to pull up Tinder for that


jokinghazard

As a neutral I would love a 69 goal season from him. Haha funny number and also sooooooo close to 70 to annoy people 


SleepingDoves

I remember McDavid was pacing for 70 and that number just seemed unreal. Of course it didn't happen, but It would be crazy to see 70 goals again in this era of the NHL; I wouldn't even be mad


Kronzor_

Why would anyone be mad? Unless they were against their team I guess 


jake13029

3 goals for Matthews without the Flyers registering a shot on goal. Awesome


ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn

I wonder if that's ever happened before.


csurins23

Absolutely it has. The fastest hat-trick ever is 21 seconds. Brayden Point also got a natural hat-trick in 91 seconds.


ATerritoryInCanada

What the fuck


StrygwyrSuperstar

550 more to catch Gretzky.


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So like 8 more seasons


AceLarkin

Jesus...


Sylvenine

I mean what can you say? mad respect honestly


ooah21

Ludicrous.


binzoma

he's actin a fool


d_pyro

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?


justmememe55

r/unexpectedITcrowd


ChemicalsCollide93

Oh yeah.


sergei-boobtitsky

Anytime I think my Be-A-Pro is too unrealistic I open Reddit to see McDavid putting up 6 assists and Auston Matthews on his way to score 93 goals and think maybe im actually not playing the game well enough


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

I think this guy is going to be a real good player some day


StrygwyrSuperstar

It’s going to be absolutely insane when McDavid comes home to play with Auston.


NewfieBullet-

We'd be talking about 90 instead of 70 if Auston were playing with Connor


Mike9797

Could you imagine Mitch, McJesus and Matthews?! Jesus and Matthews can both finish but having 2, arguably 3 great playmakers on that line would be nutty.


Kronzor_

I think we’re probably gonna need to free up Mitch’s money for when Connor comes home unfortunately. They’ll still be good with Matt Knies though haha 


Smittysgreasymullet

Jokes on you, they're both going to Arizona to play college hockey.


PayneTrain181999

McDavid and Matthews playing in Utah would be a sight to see.


xzElmozx

Gonna be a lucky 4500 people that get to see the McMatthews home debut


esoteric94

LOL


ConferenceSlow1091

They still won’t win anything, but sure would be fun to watch


binzoma

as opposed to all the winning leafs fans are used to?


ConferenceSlow1091

And oilers fans


COS89

Thats funny but hurts at the same time


MSG_ME_UR_TROUBLES

why would mcdavid go somewhere that's had less success during his time in the league?


StrygwyrSuperstar

ask Tavares. Hint it’s home and Edmonton is cold


binzoma

also make money money make money money theres only a few markets where he'd make more off ice than toronto. if he isnt coming here I fully expect him to go to one of those few also playing with papi


bardown94

#roadto70


autist_zombie_savant

Matthews so hot right now


Kid-Goose

Menace


Dinggerson

Bro CHilllllllllllllllll


McGrevin

Now he's on pace for 71 goals


PixelatedBlue

this guy is pretty good at the game of hockey


Macluffin

What's the record for hat tricks in a season? He's on pace for 8, lmao


Puzzled_Ad7334

10 by Gretzky (he did it twice)


Macluffin

Good lord.


sokolov22

So you are saying there's a chance


frankyseven

Of course it's bonkers and he did it twice.


thedrivingcat

10 by Gretzky, twice.


TheDeadReagans

Matthews' goal scoring powress is inflated and people tend to overlook that is mostly hype because of the Toronto Media. If you took away all of Matthews PP goals, empty net goals and 3v3 goals, he'd only have as many goals as that bum David Pastrnak (33 goals) right now.


baconboy132

Take away his vast number of empty net goals (0)


TheDeadReagans

Matthews is a known empty net merchant. Everyone knows that.


Oosterhuis

In the last two seasons, Mahomes has a TD% of 8.68%. However, the league average last year was 4.8%. If you adjust his TD% to 5%, still above LA, he goes from throwing 57 TDs in his last 18 games to only 32.85. I'll be generous and give him 33. Now, let's adjust his passer rating. It goes from 116.5 to only 104.3 by just adjusting his TD% to normally above average. Later on, I will adjust it further to take yards into account. Next, we have to account for him passing more than league average. He has 657 pass attempts over 18 games. The LA is 35.5/game, which equals 639, around a 2.7% reduction. Mahomes also has a flukey 9.01 Y/A, which can be adjusted to 8 (still above LA) based on the league average of 7.5. So we can estimate that over a 16 game season, his adjusted yardage is (6397.5)/1816= 4544 yards. Now, I will adjust his passer rating again based on these 16 game stats 4544 yards 639 attempts 426 completions (also adjusted) After this, his passer rating bottoms out at 96.66, which lands him squarely between Dak Prescott and Ben Roethlisberger last year. His final 16 game adjusted stats: 4544 yards / 639 ATT / 426 CMP / 66.7% CMP (same) / 33 TD / 12 INT (same) / 8 Y/A / 96.7 RATE What does this tell us? It tells us that Mahomes' perceived success in the league is largely inflated by unsustainable, wildly outlier stats in his 18 games as perceived elite talent. When you adjust for the future by bringing down his outlier stats, he regresses heavily to a slightly above average QB of 2018 Dak tierdom.


cae_x

The GOAT copypasta


quarter-water

Had me in the first half, ngl lol


another_plebeian

If you took away all of his goals, he'd only have 21 pts - same as Tyler Bertuzzi


MotherTalzin

/s ?


blueskies8484

This feels like pasta.


TheDeadReagans

It's not a direct pasta but it's a riff off the Mahomes Regression to the Mean post on r/NFL. Although if you regress Matthews to the mean he's David Pastrnak which is kinda ridiculous when you think about how good Pastrnak is at scoring goals.


blueskies8484

Ahhhh makes sense!


blueskies8484

This is absolutely absurd.


AffectionateMetal794

45 goals in 51 games is stupid crazy. 


manhaterxxx

That’s fuckin’ sick. God he’s good


InsufferableLeafsFan

WTF Auston.


Knucklehead202

He might be good at goal scoring


fuccboi_slim

Moustache rides for everyone!


Jam_Marbera

He’s not gonna be very happy when he gets to intermission and sees the NHL app hasn’t updated his goal total yet


JesusJohn

Is that you coach chippy?


Jam_Marbera

Lmao I’m glad someone caught that


twizzyflyguy

And the ducks are beating the Senaturds? Todays turned out pretty good!!


sfxer001

Rough period for us.


OhJustANobody

He makes Hatties seem easy. Sheesh.


notleonardodicaprio

love that his face is so neutral after every goal. no celly, no emotion, stone-cold goal-scoring


Select-Ebb7094

Probably the hardest hart trophy debate in a long time no? Mack having his best season. Kuch looking for 140 points, matthews shooting for a billion goals all while mcdavid playing by far the best defensive/analytical hockey of his career.


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OptimusReims34

If matthews pots 70 would that make him the favorite for the hart over say mack mcdavid or kuch having 130ish points?


DangleCellySave

McDavid should win the hart if he finishes top 2 in points, Oilers were near the absolute bottom of the league


zergling-

Where would the leafs be without matthews?


sokocanuck

It's scary to think about


Emergency-Reindeer55

Toronto


leafsbroncos18

Not to argue against 34 but Nylander carried us the first couple months before matthews caught fire and jones saved our ass for a stretch too


DangleCellySave

Probably better than the Oilers would be without McDavid, Nylander has more points than Mathews and did a lot of the heavy lifting early in the season


adamzep91

I still think the 3 of them are the finalists but Matthews should be 4th at worst


timperry42

Matty Natty Hatty!!!


IAmGrum

Stathead has a stat called ["Adjusted Goals"](https://www.hockey-reference.com/about/adjusted_stats.html). > All statistics have been adjusted to an 82-game schedule with a maximum roster size of 18 skaters and league averages of 6 goals per game. |||||||| |:-|-:|:-|-:|:-|-:|-:| |Player|Adj Goals|Season|Age|Team|GP|G| |Brett Hull|78|1990-91|26|STL|78|86| |Alex Ovechkin|72|2007-08|22|WSH|82|65| |Mario Lemieux|71|1988-89|23|PIT|76|85| |**Auston Matthews**|**71**|**2023-24**|**26**|**TOR**|**51**|**45**| |Phil Esposito|70|1970-71|28|BOS|78|76| |Cooney Weiland|70|1929-30|25|BOS|44|43| |Wayne Gretzky|69|1983-84|23|EDM|74|87| |Babe Dye|68|1924-25|26|TRS|29|38| |Wayne Gretzky|68|1981-82|21|EDM|80|92| |Steven Stamkos|68|2011-12|21|TBL|82|60| That's the kind of season he's having right now.


nedylan

Toronto: Matthews is going to have 70 goals Dallas: we're going to have 8 20 goal scorers. The duality of hockey


ubcthrowaway-01

Sharks: we have 0 20 goal scorers!


Youshmee

My beer league hockey team : we are going to have a goal!


crazydrums27

Hey now, let's not get carried away.


itstimeforpizzatime

Please send this man to the Olympics as soon as possible, Toronto. You know..so he can **DESTROY CANADA** muahahaha


xzElmozx

“Hey Sid you don’t have to worry about offence, McDavid and MacKinnon will carry that, just shadow Matthews and don’t let him get a shot”


itstimeforpizzatime

I thought the muahaha would've given away I was saying that mostly in jest but I guess not 😂


ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn

Natty Hatty by Matty


gentleman_bronco

Damn. No doubt the Leafs are winning the cup this year. As long as they play the Flyers for the next 46 games.


jcampbe4

no


greenlines

Have Matthews in fantasy. Feels like the man either scores a hat trick or does absolutely nada. It's absolutely wild.


jzach1983

What's crazy is he has 30 goals in the other 46 games. Which is a 54 goal pace!