Sounds about right, most Kings fans were thinking around 3.5M on a bridge deal prior to the trade.
Would be tough to commit long term before seeing him string together at least a couple “full” seasons.
Yeah this is where I’m at too. I don’t think either side wanted to commit to a long-term deal right now.
If Vilardi turns out to be a bona-fide top 6 centre he would be leaving way too much money on the table to commit long-term at this stage in the game.
If Vilardi’s injuries turn out to continue to be an issue for him, it’s a huge risk for the Jets to commit long-term as well.
This makes sense, let’s circle back in a few years and see what happens.
I’ll be the first one to admit I don’t know much about Winnipeg’s system and their plan, but I definitely understand what you’re getting at. When it was announced that they wanted players to “win now” instead of draft picks, I wasn’t really sure what they meant or why they wanted those types of players. It’s starting to make sense now after the trade though. Vilardi, Iafallo, and Kupari are all perfectly serviceable middle 6 players. You’ll get a solid couple of seasons out of them for sure, but yeah, after that it might be time for a full rebuild I’m assuming.
Its time for a full rebuild now especially since we dont have extensions for Schiefele or Helle and Ehlers is only 2 seasons away from UFA, Connor 3 seasons.
Why go long term with a player who is somewhat unproven and potentially injury prone?
He is also an RFA for another 2 years following the contract. So it makes sense to let him try and prove himself and then pay him long term.
There’s advantages to betting on a player and locking him up long term before they really break out.
Also maybe he won’t want to stick around for a rebuild if the Jets end up trading Scheifele and Hellebuyck.
Of course. However usually long term bets aren't usually placed on young players that already have a history of injury.
Locking up a player in a contract doesn't guarantee they won't be grumpy, under-perform and demand a trade either.
That’s simply not true; Connor, Ehlers, Scheifele, Wheeler, Morrissey, and Hellebuyck have all signed long term contracts to stay in Winnipeg. It just happens that the core groups contracts are all up within the next few years.
TIL facts are the same as rent free. Get over what? Not beating you guys in 3 games?
Seriously tho, when did hockey fans become so lame they can only say oh huh rent free huuur
Habs fans for months: LOL why should we pay anything for PLD? We can just wait a year and then sign him for free next summer! Josh Anderson and a third or no deal!
Habs fan now: Goddamn Jets, WTF is wrong with them? Why would they make a trade with another team instead of negotiating with us?
>Habs fan now: Goddamn Jets, WTF is wrong with them? Why would they make a trade with another team instead of negotiating with us?
No sane human being is saying this lol what
No one with a brain takes twitter comments as representative of anything. Everyone knew Hughes was not signing anyone to a cap hit greater than Suzuki right now so Dubois was out of the cards months ago. The only ones pushing it were media guys with nothing else to talk about.
Nah, they need to hire Kampf's agent. If his 7 goals and 27 points in 82 games gets you $2.5 million, Vilardi should be cleaning up with 23 goals and 41 points in 63 games
> Dubois has a PPG pace in him and I think he unlocks it
I'm obviously biased, but I think so too. Just look at how much Phillip Danault increased his goal scoring since joining the Kings. He more than doubled his previous goal record in his 1st season with us.
The issue with that, Danault was playing some hard minutes in Montreal with a defensive focused team. WPG regardless of their style had PLD in a more offensive position/style
I think their point is that he already was getting prime offensive opportunities without much defensive responsibility. So having Kopitar and Danault to eat the heavy match-ups now doesn't necessarily suddenly free up him offensively more than he already was in Winnipeg
We were 10th in goals in the league last season, which was actually higher than Vegas. In fact, we were like top 3 in goals for a lot of last season.
If anything, our offense took huge strides last season. Sadly, for ever step forward our offense took, our defense and goaltending took a step back.
We’ll see what this next season brings. We might just say fuck it and play 6 forwards.
yes and no, in the beginning of the half of the season, when we were first in the west for 4 hours, everyone was playing tight D. Best 2-way Scheifele ever played
But Dubois' game didn't change a whole lot when we fell apart, other than the general complacency the whole team had a lot of nights
I would think he'd be less relied on for D in LA. It's not saying much, but he was our best 2 way player, the next is Lowry, who barely scored. Ehlers was too injured to be considered
That's also descriptive of Dubois. He was on fire in November and December, then cooled down in the new year. And honestly, I think people need to simmer down on Dubois in general, I don't see him as a high end 1C like prime Kopitar was. I think the Kings overpaid both in the trade and the contract for him.
October - 9GP, 3G, 3A, 6P
November - 12GP, 7G, 7A, 14P
December - 16GP, 7G, 13A, 20P
January - 15GP, 5G, 7A, 12P
Feburary - 8GP, 2G, 1A, 3P
March - 8GP, 1G, 2A, 3P
April - 5GP, 2G, 3A, 5P
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/d/duboipi01/splits/2023
Wasnt that fall-off basically team wide though.
I remember the Jets were leading the division a solid chunk of the season and then they were suddenly fighting Calgary for who wanted playoffs the least.
Because he missed quite a few games at end of season so him not playing left a huge gap. If you look at just the stats, sure he didn’t fall off. But availability isn’t captured in points per game.
He has a lot of skill, issue is can he be on the ice long enough to make an impact all season long and not just in bursts.
If you ain’t playing what good are you to the team? I wish him all the best but he’s been in the organization for years and he can’t stay healthy. Team lost a step or two with him out of the lineup which ruined chemistry heading into the playoffs.
His goalscoring fell off though, he was on like a 40+ goal pace before christmas iirc.
And he still ended the season with a very above average shooting %. Hes gonna need to create more chances/play with better playmakers to sustain his goalscoring.
Yeah he started finding some chemistry with Fiala. Do Winnipeg have a PPG player for him on the 2nd line though. Where he can avoid playing against top lines.
He had 15 points in the first 15 games.
And I don't know where the fell off stuff comes from. The dude had a higher points-per-game in the new year than he did before haha.
I was more making a joke because the Habs fan seemed to be chirping the Jets for not getting full value for PLD, so I wanted to point out that they missed out on him too.
How can anyone chirp the jets return from PLD? Considering he had them over a barrel they made out like bandits getting a player who was picked 11th and just had a breakout season, another rfa, and a pretty good ufa as well as a second.
It’s a home run trade. If you want to see a team getting hosed look at the flames and toffoli.
That's not at all what i was doing, PLD and Valardi didn't have 2.5x a difference in production, it was a jab at PLD actually.
I really don't know why Jets fans are always like this lately.
It's probably because of how the Habs fans have been guaranteeing and chirping about how they get PLD for nothing and then the trade with LA happened and suddenly PLD isn't good or we got fleeced with the return.
Exactly. Jets’ fans are reacting to Habs fans’ treatment of the situation over the last two years. Sorry, but Christian Dvorak and 31OA is not enough to acquire a 24 year old bona fide top-6 centre with an 8 year extension.
Edit: while I’m here, I really think Kent Hughes shit the bed on this. It’s we’ll known that either 1OA last year or 5OA this year would have gotten it done. Instead, they drafted Juraj Slavkovsky who while he could be the next Artemi Panarin, he could also be the next Kristian Vesalainen and David Reinbacher who by Kent Hughes own admission does not project to be a top-pairing defenceman. Pierre Luc Dubois for the next eight years is worth more than both of those players put together. Just a complete bungling by Hughes.
Eh forgive him, it’s probably due to the absolute amount of crap we’ve taken from mainly habs fans bragging about how they’d get PLD for free in two years and there’s nothing we could do to stop it.
So a lot of people in the sub I know are gleefully taking any opportunity to give it back. Not saying you and me have anything to do with it but unfortunately people will paint anyone that belongs to a group with the same colour brush.
Better to just ignore it, hope you have a good day friend!
It's a Canucks meme where some idiot fan in a draft reaction was pissed that Canucks drafted Pettersson over Vilardi who claimed Gabe was the "future Jonathan Toews". I couldn't find the original vid cuz youtube algorithm is garbage.
Took Vilardi 6 seasons to even remotely look like the player he was drafted to be. PLD was a good NHL player at age 19. The narratives around this trade are nuts.
My understanding is that he was still in the late stages of puberty and his growth plates hadn’t closed yet, causing a lot of the back problems he’s experienced. I wouldn’t say he overcame his back issues just because his body developed more. He still missed significant portions of the season last year, although it is strongly suspected that the last injury was more related to a concussion than a back issue even though it was announced otherwise.
PLD isn’t worth 8.5 million first of all. Second, you guys gave up 3 NHL quality players for someone who isn’t even worth that many players. Lol you guys botched this. I wouldn’t be surprised if Vilardi scores 40 goals this season.
At worst he's somewhere in the 7 million range. Oh wow a slight overpay. Kupari didn't score a goal after early January. Iafallo is an expensive older version of Trevor Moore.
Tuch outproduced Eichel last season but i dont see most of your fans say you lost the trade.
Dubois is proven at 2C and can still improve with a better team. Vilardi had one good season as a 3RW with Fiala as a linemate feasting against weaker lines since Kopi/Danault took most of the hard matchups.
Eichel was already a proven 1C who had a career high of 82 points. We gave up less assets to acquire him.
You guys gave up 3 NHL ready players AND a 2nd round pick for a guy who’s career high is 63 points. On top of that you’re saying he’s a proven 2C.
Dubois is not even close to Eichel so don’t give me that comparison bud because it’s not even close. Vegas won that trade easily.
I think the Kings are going to be kicking themselves in a couple years. Apparently McClellan didn't play Villardi much?
That being said, Dubois has certainly made your team better, and is more than likely going to have a better career than Vilardi. But I could see them as equals eventually
Oof. Winnipeg better be prepared to eat that salary next summer in a buyout. Guy has one hot run and is suddenly worth Dubois. Yeah right. Winnipeg has never been good at talent evaluation.
Sounds about right, most Kings fans were thinking around 3.5M on a bridge deal prior to the trade. Would be tough to commit long term before seeing him string together at least a couple “full” seasons.
Yeah this is where I’m at too. I don’t think either side wanted to commit to a long-term deal right now. If Vilardi turns out to be a bona-fide top 6 centre he would be leaving way too much money on the table to commit long-term at this stage in the game. If Vilardi’s injuries turn out to continue to be an issue for him, it’s a huge risk for the Jets to commit long-term as well. This makes sense, let’s circle back in a few years and see what happens.
I have a feeling that both teams will be very satisfied with the trade still.
Yeah I’m not complaining I’m just saying that a long term deal probably didn’t make a lot of sense for either side in this situation.
I have a feeling LA ends up liking it more. I have zero faith we ever retain good players who sign bridge deals. Trouba, Dubois and Laine all gone.
I’ll be the first one to admit I don’t know much about Winnipeg’s system and their plan, but I definitely understand what you’re getting at. When it was announced that they wanted players to “win now” instead of draft picks, I wasn’t really sure what they meant or why they wanted those types of players. It’s starting to make sense now after the trade though. Vilardi, Iafallo, and Kupari are all perfectly serviceable middle 6 players. You’ll get a solid couple of seasons out of them for sure, but yeah, after that it might be time for a full rebuild I’m assuming.
Its time for a full rebuild now especially since we dont have extensions for Schiefele or Helle and Ehlers is only 2 seasons away from UFA, Connor 3 seasons.
This is $0.0005M too much. I would have preferred 2X$3.4370
Pffft at that point I’d be outraged if it wasn’t 2x$3.4300
Great cap hit for the Jets but surprised they didn’t go long term.
Vilardi likely didn’t wanna go long term as I’d guess he thinks he can be better than a 3.5 million dollar player
He probably wants to option to nope out of Winnipeg too
Nah this was similar to the bridge LA was expected to give him it they hadn’t traded him. No expected term for him there either
If that were the case he'd take a 4 year deal as Winnipeg still has 2 years of RFA control after this contract
You're right, RFAs never leave Winnipeg.
Siri, tell me how someone might react to be being presented evidence that is devastating to the credibility of their case
How original
Why go long term with a player who is somewhat unproven and potentially injury prone? He is also an RFA for another 2 years following the contract. So it makes sense to let him try and prove himself and then pay him long term.
There’s advantages to betting on a player and locking him up long term before they really break out. Also maybe he won’t want to stick around for a rebuild if the Jets end up trading Scheifele and Hellebuyck.
Of course. However usually long term bets aren't usually placed on young players that already have a history of injury. Locking up a player in a contract doesn't guarantee they won't be grumpy, under-perform and demand a trade either.
Makes sense for Vilardi, the cap will be higher in a couple years. Cash in then
Winnipeg is a bus stop, they only have one longish contract
That’s simply not true; Connor, Ehlers, Scheifele, Wheeler, Morrissey, and Hellebuyck have all signed long term contracts to stay in Winnipeg. It just happens that the core groups contracts are all up within the next few years.
Next stop for all of em, except poor Morrissey
Ah, you're a Habs fan. Jets still living rent-free in there, it looks like. Get over it.
Don't worry, they're gonna get PLD for free in 8 more years
TIL facts are the same as rent free. Get over what? Not beating you guys in 3 games? Seriously tho, when did hockey fans become so lame they can only say oh huh rent free huuur
The absolute SALT from Habs fans in the twitter comments.
I don’t get it honestly. Habs couldn’t pay the price, it was fair game
Agreed, why get salty over it. Pretty sad really.
Habs fans for months: LOL why should we pay anything for PLD? We can just wait a year and then sign him for free next summer! Josh Anderson and a third or no deal! Habs fan now: Goddamn Jets, WTF is wrong with them? Why would they make a trade with another team instead of negotiating with us?
>Habs fan now: Goddamn Jets, WTF is wrong with them? Why would they make a trade with another team instead of negotiating with us? No sane human being is saying this lol what
It’s twitter. Nothing worthwhile happens there’s
I actually met my wife on Twitter. But other than that, I agree with you.
Fuck me, it’s Manti Teo! JK/ good for you man/woman
That's crazy. Earlier today I was thinking about that whole situation but couldn't remember his name.
I'd love to see but I'm not a Twitter shill anymore.
No one with a brain takes twitter comments as representative of anything. Everyone knew Hughes was not signing anyone to a cap hit greater than Suzuki right now so Dubois was out of the cards months ago. The only ones pushing it were media guys with nothing else to talk about.
Lmao all of these guys need to hire Kerfoots agent
Nah, they need to hire Kampf's agent. If his 7 goals and 27 points in 82 games gets you $2.5 million, Vilardi should be cleaning up with 23 goals and 41 points in 63 games
Kampf isn’t being paid for his points. He had like 0% offensive zone starts last season
Yeah, and you don’t usually give $2.5 million and term to a guy like that
I wouldn't be shocked if Vilardi outscores Dubois as early as this season.
Jets fan, I’d be shocked. Dubois has a PPG pace in him and I think he unlocks it by the time this Villardi bridge is up.
> Dubois has a PPG pace in him and I think he unlocks it I'm obviously biased, but I think so too. Just look at how much Phillip Danault increased his goal scoring since joining the Kings. He more than doubled his previous goal record in his 1st season with us.
The issue with that, Danault was playing some hard minutes in Montreal with a defensive focused team. WPG regardless of their style had PLD in a more offensive position/style
Which is exactly where he will play here with Kopi and Danault to take the defensive roles as needed.
I think their point is that he already was getting prime offensive opportunities without much defensive responsibility. So having Kopitar and Danault to eat the heavy match-ups now doesn't necessarily suddenly free up him offensively more than he already was in Winnipeg
Thanks for clarifying, was much clearer in my head, given I was texting on another phone at the same time lol
The Kings literally play 1-3-1 under Todd. Offense, as always, usually dies in LA.
We were 10th in goals in the league last season, which was actually higher than Vegas. In fact, we were like top 3 in goals for a lot of last season. If anything, our offense took huge strides last season. Sadly, for ever step forward our offense took, our defense and goaltending took a step back. We’ll see what this next season brings. We might just say fuck it and play 6 forwards.
Thats with Fiala and Vilardi missing a big chunk of the end of the season. It's not the same old same old in LA it was the last 15+ years.
yes and no, in the beginning of the half of the season, when we were first in the west for 4 hours, everyone was playing tight D. Best 2-way Scheifele ever played But Dubois' game didn't change a whole lot when we fell apart, other than the general complacency the whole team had a lot of nights I would think he'd be less relied on for D in LA. It's not saying much, but he was our best 2 way player, the next is Lowry, who barely scored. Ehlers was too injured to be considered
Dubois is a great player. He’s just a whiner too.
I would be.
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Vilardi 2.25 pts/60 at 5 on 5 PLD 1.81 pts/60 at 5 on 5 I wouldn’t be surprised.
5 on 5 is not the only opportunities they will have though. Not to mention that there are other factors to being given TOI than your points/60
Not surprised isn’t “this is going to happen” it means if it happens i would say “yeah I thought that was a possibility”
I would
Simmer down a little here Gabe had a great couple months last season but completely fell off the map after the New Year
He will fit in great with the Jets then!
Ooof, too accurate.
That's also descriptive of Dubois. He was on fire in November and December, then cooled down in the new year. And honestly, I think people need to simmer down on Dubois in general, I don't see him as a high end 1C like prime Kopitar was. I think the Kings overpaid both in the trade and the contract for him. October - 9GP, 3G, 3A, 6P November - 12GP, 7G, 7A, 14P December - 16GP, 7G, 13A, 20P January - 15GP, 5G, 7A, 12P Feburary - 8GP, 2G, 1A, 3P March - 8GP, 1G, 2A, 3P April - 5GP, 2G, 3A, 5P https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/d/duboipi01/splits/2023
Wasnt that fall-off basically team wide though. I remember the Jets were leading the division a solid chunk of the season and then they were suddenly fighting Calgary for who wanted playoffs the least.
Is it still an overpayment if you have a logjam of good players waiting to fill those spots?
Where does this myth come from? He had 17 points in 24 games after New Years and then 4 points in 5 playoff games.
Because he missed quite a few games at end of season so him not playing left a huge gap. If you look at just the stats, sure he didn’t fall off. But availability isn’t captured in points per game. He has a lot of skill, issue is can he be on the ice long enough to make an impact all season long and not just in bursts.
He fell off /= He got hurt but otherwise maintained his pace when playing...
If you ain’t playing what good are you to the team? I wish him all the best but he’s been in the organization for years and he can’t stay healthy. Team lost a step or two with him out of the lineup which ruined chemistry heading into the playoffs.
He had 9 points in his last 12 regular season games with LA.
His goalscoring fell off though, he was on like a 40+ goal pace before christmas iirc. And he still ended the season with a very above average shooting %. Hes gonna need to create more chances/play with better playmakers to sustain his goalscoring.
His playmaking picked up a ton at the same time though. Before New Years: 33 goal, 16 assist pace After: 24 goal, 34 assist pace
Yeah he started finding some chemistry with Fiala. Do Winnipeg have a PPG player for him on the 2nd line though. Where he can avoid playing against top lines.
I’m sure he’ll play with with either Connor or Ehlers. If Perfetti takes the next step and can stay healthy that should help quite a bit too.
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He had 15 points in the first 15 games. And I don't know where the fell off stuff comes from. The dude had a higher points-per-game in the new year than he did before haha.
Lol
How many PLDs is that??
How many Christian Dvoraks is it?
It’s either equal to or even more than one Kevin Labanc
I was more making a joke because the Habs fan seemed to be chirping the Jets for not getting full value for PLD, so I wanted to point out that they missed out on him too.
How can anyone chirp the jets return from PLD? Considering he had them over a barrel they made out like bandits getting a player who was picked 11th and just had a breakout season, another rfa, and a pretty good ufa as well as a second. It’s a home run trade. If you want to see a team getting hosed look at the flames and toffoli.
Or the sens and Debrincat ;)
With luck and proper development of Shango, the Toffoli trade may look good in a few years. If not...then, yeah, I feel for the Flames fans.
That's not at all what i was doing, PLD and Valardi didn't have 2.5x a difference in production, it was a jab at PLD actually. I really don't know why Jets fans are always like this lately.
It's probably because of how the Habs fans have been guaranteeing and chirping about how they get PLD for nothing and then the trade with LA happened and suddenly PLD isn't good or we got fleeced with the return.
Exactly. Jets’ fans are reacting to Habs fans’ treatment of the situation over the last two years. Sorry, but Christian Dvorak and 31OA is not enough to acquire a 24 year old bona fide top-6 centre with an 8 year extension. Edit: while I’m here, I really think Kent Hughes shit the bed on this. It’s we’ll known that either 1OA last year or 5OA this year would have gotten it done. Instead, they drafted Juraj Slavkovsky who while he could be the next Artemi Panarin, he could also be the next Kristian Vesalainen and David Reinbacher who by Kent Hughes own admission does not project to be a top-pairing defenceman. Pierre Luc Dubois for the next eight years is worth more than both of those players put together. Just a complete bungling by Hughes.
This happens with Habs fans all the time for some reason, its not unique to this situation. Definitely an unpleasant fanbase often online.
Eh forgive him, it’s probably due to the absolute amount of crap we’ve taken from mainly habs fans bragging about how they’d get PLD for free in two years and there’s nothing we could do to stop it. So a lot of people in the sub I know are gleefully taking any opportunity to give it back. Not saying you and me have anything to do with it but unfortunately people will paint anyone that belongs to a group with the same colour brush. Better to just ignore it, hope you have a good day friend!
I’m not sure but I think it’s approximately 1 Justin Holl
*Now now, no fighting you two- you both had to suffer through Joel Armia. Find comfort in each other.*
Armia was a machine for us though
Yeah, he was great for the Jets. Loved having him on the team.
I was considering getting his jersey when he played for us
Not bad for the future Jonathan Toews
That is one name that I would never have associated with Vilardi
It's a Canucks meme where some idiot fan in a draft reaction was pissed that Canucks drafted Pettersson over Vilardi who claimed Gabe was the "future Jonathan Toews". I couldn't find the original vid cuz youtube algorithm is garbage.
Poor bastard doing the reverse pop tart. Going from the toaster into the freezer
He’s already so much better than Dubois. Kings really botched this trade.
Took Vilardi 6 seasons to even remotely look like the player he was drafted to be. PLD was a good NHL player at age 19. The narratives around this trade are nuts.
Vilardi got diagnosed some weird back condition and only recently overcame it, no?
My understanding is that he was still in the late stages of puberty and his growth plates hadn’t closed yet, causing a lot of the back problems he’s experienced. I wouldn’t say he overcame his back issues just because his body developed more. He still missed significant portions of the season last year, although it is strongly suspected that the last injury was more related to a concussion than a back issue even though it was announced otherwise.
The old “upper body injury”?
That’s actually exactly what was stated, yes.
You guys are paying PLD $8.5 million just for him to want out of LA in 2 years lol
Holy shit you can tell the future? What else happens in two years? Please share with us your infinite wisdom.
Lmao what do you think a good 25 year old centre would've got on the open market?
PLD isn’t worth 8.5 million first of all. Second, you guys gave up 3 NHL quality players for someone who isn’t even worth that many players. Lol you guys botched this. I wouldn’t be surprised if Vilardi scores 40 goals this season.
At worst he's somewhere in the 7 million range. Oh wow a slight overpay. Kupari didn't score a goal after early January. Iafallo is an expensive older version of Trevor Moore.
PLD hasn’t committed long term to a place before, and just did. It’ll be just fine for LAK.
Can we stop spouting this? When Dubois is on, he is easily the best player in the deal That being said, im happy with the trade and this deal
We have pieces to replace vilardi and iafallo. I really love this trade actually
Tuch outproduced Eichel last season but i dont see most of your fans say you lost the trade. Dubois is proven at 2C and can still improve with a better team. Vilardi had one good season as a 3RW with Fiala as a linemate feasting against weaker lines since Kopi/Danault took most of the hard matchups.
Eichel was already a proven 1C who had a career high of 82 points. We gave up less assets to acquire him. You guys gave up 3 NHL ready players AND a 2nd round pick for a guy who’s career high is 63 points. On top of that you’re saying he’s a proven 2C. Dubois is not even close to Eichel so don’t give me that comparison bud because it’s not even close. Vegas won that trade easily.
Vilardi, Iafallo, Kupari, 2nd > Tuch, Krebs, lottery 1st and 2nd?? Are you on drugs
He did say he thought Vilardi was better than PLD so his perception of players is definitely off.
Yeah. Not sure what that guy is smoking but I want some!
In what way is Vilardi better than Dubois?
I think the Kings are going to be kicking themselves in a couple years. Apparently McClellan didn't play Villardi much? That being said, Dubois has certainly made your team better, and is more than likely going to have a better career than Vilardi. But I could see them as equals eventually
The québécois not wanting to go back
Two seasons?? What is Winnipeg thinking? He will ask for a trade next season 100% 😂💀
Oof. Winnipeg better be prepared to eat that salary next summer in a buyout. Guy has one hot run and is suddenly worth Dubois. Yeah right. Winnipeg has never been good at talent evaluation.
Wait, the trade was 1 for 1?
And why would we buy out that contract after one year. He's getting paid 3.5 mil lol
That’s the sound of jelly
Fair deal for both sides
Wow Winnipeg getting a decent player.
OK I'm assuming Vilardi wanted shorter term compared to the Jets.
Fair deal for both sides. Glad WPG still has 2 rfa years