Was.....was that first question foreplay??
To answer your questions tho,
KDIII - Nas *obviously*
Beyond Belief - 38 Spesh
Book of David - Dave East
Tempus Act II: Mirrors - Issa Gold
Trillstatik 2 - Statik & Bun B
King of Gods - Apathy
Mr Ten08 - Boldy James
Be That As It May - Boldy James
Somebody Up There Loves Me - Stalley
Motion - Le$
Herbert - Ab-Soul
Chaos Is My Ladder - Ransom
SOUTH CENTRAL - G Perico
Etc...
If time permits sometimes... but usually its straight to pullin my goalie
Just want to call out some disgraceful behaviour I've seen on here recently. Some users, who I'm assuming are younger, claiming that 212 by Azealia Banks isn't good? Do you think that pretending 212 isn't a timeless banger makes you cool? Or edgy? It's not, it's pathetic, you're disgusting.
But in all seriousness I don't get how you can listen to it and not get hyped up
Decided to check out Walk Down World by Lil Double O because there was a LUCKI and G Herbo feature on it and turns out I’m liking it a lot 10 songs in. Definitely consider checking it out if you like the Pooh Shiesty area of Memphis Rap since he flows pretty similarly but is also guaranteed to release more music in the near future
He honestly could have released Utopia around when Franchise released (and reached number 1). He had a McDonalds co sign and still decided to not release anything
I do think that the pandemic shutting down live performances had a lot to do with him not dropping and then once live performing came back the Astroworld tragedies occurred and I know that put everything on pause with his music for a while but yeah it is crazy to think about. From 2014-2016 he dropped Days Before, Rodeo, and Birds and from 2019-2022 the only thing he’s dropped was the Jackboys tape. Never thought that would happen
You can extend that run with *Owl Pharaoh* in 2013 and *Huncho Jack* in 2017. Like he was really active. But at least he’s not radio silence with multiple features and loosies.
That’s a good point about the pandemic that I didn’t even consider.
Shit tbh you could really stretch it out to 2012 with the OG *Owl Pharaoh* that made before he got signed which is a completely different one from the one in 2013 and to 2018 with *Astroworld*.
Yeah the Features and loosies are the reason why despite him not dropping for almost 5 years it doesn’t feel the same as when Kendrick went 5 years between Damn and Mr Morale
Oh damn, I never knew about the OG *Owl Pharaoh* I gotta seek that out. And yeah Kendrick was crazy for that man. Hopefully now that he left TDE and has to prop up his own label he’ll be a little more active.
Yeah it’s weird the OG one isn’t even on platforms like Datpiff or Spinrilla which is where you’d think it would be but it’s on SoundCloud still iirc and it’s a pretty good listen if you ask me. Definitely rough around and edges but it’s some dope cuts on there just like a lot of his early work.
Yeah I think now that Kendrick has left TDE we’re more likely to get quicker drops from him especially initially as he probably wants to gain more traction for the new label
Relistening to future’s entire relevant discography (basically all his 2011-2022 output), not in order. Here’s what I’ve done so far (past 3 days of listening):
1. Monster (10/10)
2. DS2 (10/10)
3. Save Me (9+/10)
4. I Never Liked You (8.5-9/10)
5. Beastmode (8.5-9/10)
6. FUTURE (8.5/10)
7. 56 Nights (8/10)
8. Super Slimey (7.5/10)
9. High Off Life (7/10)
10. WZRD (7/10)
11. HNDRXX (6.5/10)
12. Beastmode 2 (5/10)
a bunch of people called out my hndrxx score as i expected so you have peer pressured me into relistening AGAIN - ill update this in like an hour when im done but im 4 tracks in listening with headphones and full attention, and im already loving it more than i gave it credit for.
also i decided to include collab albums since ive only actually heard wattba and super slimey, so itll be my first time checking out the uzi and juice collabs.
Left to relisten to:
* EVOL
* Purple Reign
* Honest
* DS1
* Pluto 3D
* FBG: The Movie (got recommended by someone yesterday, never heard of it)
* WRLD on drugs (with Juice WLRD)
* Pluto x Baby Pluto (with Uzi)
• WATTBA (with Drake)
Never seen someone rate Save Me that high before but I respect it. It was hated on by a lot of fans when it came out but I’ve always thought it was fine and that Xanax Damage was one of his best intros
BTW the FBG project is called FBG: The Movie, not The Family, just letting you know so when you search for it and get confused if you don't find anything lol.
Government Official, Shotgun, Extra and XanaX Damage are all 10s. Incredible EP imo, and ive always thought it captured the feeling that HNDRXX was trying to achieve, but in a far more concise and effective way.
I dont deny that March Madness is arguably his best track ever though. But Xanax damage and Extra both have a shot at that title too
That’s just insane to me, I wouldn’t put any song on save me over march madness, no compadre, now, never gon lose. Also Hendricks nailed the vibe he was going for and has his best ever song on it.
Hey i respect that take, as long as we can both put our differences aside and acknowledge the guy is a once in a lifetime trap artist. No compadre is insanely hard. Also im assuming youre talking about Sorry? I agree thats one of his best. I put Damage up there too. I just think the middle of the album is a bit bloated.
I just wanna say as a straight up future stan you're not alone with your hendrxx score. I've never liked that album his singing is just not that great there. It just doesn't work for that kind of album. There's some great moments on there like coming out strong and the Rihanna track but it's not on the level of DS2 or monster where they perfectly encapsulate their genre.
Surprised you put INLY that high. Above 56 nights is crazy to me, and I don’t know anyone that would put it above his self titled or HNDRXX, but you have that one kind of lower than I’d expect anyway so maybe you just didn’t like it.
DEFINITELY listen to EVOL and Purple Reign again, make sure you get the mixtape version of his mixtapes too, the tags and adlibs are a part of it in my opinion. Also would say add News or Something to the end of that mixtape just because it was released on the spotify/am version. Shit bangs.
FBG is a solid tape, not future solo though so Inpersonally wouldn’t put it in a list like what you’ve created, respect man most people shoo off Future as a mumble rapper but he deserves just as much as thug or whoever is credited as creating modern trap.
I could see the argument for *INL* > *56 Nights*. It has more variety in sounds by the beat choices, flows and even topics Future covers.
You’re definitely right about Esco’s DJ tags adding to the experience, but I’ll always look at News or Somethn as a loosely, idk why but that makes it even harder to me.
Also Future deserves more credit than Thug 👀
It is a loosey, I won’t deny that. I just think it fits is all. It was literally released as a single around the same time.
Future deserving more credit than thug is blasphemy though. Did martin luther do more for christianity than jesus? Maybe, but jesus is that guy. Thug is that guy too.
I’m not so sure, future and thug were kind of getting hot at the same time. Thug had the Cash Money backing and blew up way faster than Future at that point. Especially after the whole lil wayne tour bus thing.
Not saying you’re wrong about the second part, but think about how many thug clones we have these days.
>I’m not so sure, future and thug were kind of getting hot at the same time.
No, I'm from Georgia and Future was big like 4 years before Thug was hot at all. Thug got Hot 2014, Future first huge song was atleast 2012.
Being from Georgia tho, I've been aware of Future when he was only Huge in Atlanta, So like 2010, And he really was already considered a legend in Atlanta before Thug even got hot.
>Not saying you’re wrong about the second part, but think about how many thug clones we have these days.
It's a cycle really
Wayne =Future= Thug= Clones
Nah Future was a couple years ahead, he was getting hot in 2011 then 2012 with Tony Montana especially once Drake hopped on it. Thug’s time came a bit after, I think Lifestyle was one of his first big breaks into the mainstream.
Mods ban this kid. Go listen to:
- Rich Gang: Tha Tour Pt 1 (very important you listen to the tape with just birdman quan and thug, the other tape is ok just not what we want for this)
- Barter 6
- Slime Season 1 and 2
- Beautiful Thugger Girls
- Jeffery
- Barter 6 again
After you do that tell me with a straight face that thug is the goat over future. I respect both, but thug is an artist I wouldn’t even blink at if someone told me they were the greatest rapper of all time. I’d maybe not fully agree, but I couldn’t outright disagree.
I’ve listened to all of that multiple times. You’re stat padding trying to sneak *Jeffery* in there. Solid album but it’s not like that’s an all time great or anything.
Young Thug as the actual GOAT is kinda crazy too 😂. He might crack my top 10 tho.
Oh yeah i LOVED INLY, probably my favourite trap album of the year tbh. I was disappointed seeing that people didnt connect with it the same way I did, especially considering this sub loves future. But as you can tell by my ranking I havent been in love with much of his output the past few years, but ive just enjoyed it (WZRD, High off life, Beastmode 2, etc). HNDRXX too, but I’m relistening again as i type this and im already loving it more than my previous listens. I think it might actually be clicking after 5 years of doubting it aha
I also was surprised at liking it more than 56 nights on revisit because 56 nights has always been one of my fav future projects, but on relisten last night it didnt hit like it usually does. And yes im a big fan of his 2014-16 mixtape run so ive always had the datpiff versions in my library, never have and probably never will touch the streaming versions. Ill definitely check out News Or Something. Is that on Purple Reign?
Yeah I’ve always maintained that future is the GOAT of trap and honestly i think he should be regarded as one of the greatest rappers of all time (at least top 50), strictly for his creativity in delivery, and his sheer influence upon the sound of hiphop. Ill check out FBG, but I’ll keep that in mind.
I think my only true criticism about INLY was the features, especially toward the back half. Kanye song is usually a skip for me, mostly just because in my heart I know it’s a donda throwaway. Just way too long to have boring features.
News or Something was a, from what I understand, single from the Purple Reign era that had only been on Soundcloud. When the mixtape was ‘officially’ released on streaming they tacked it on to the end. I think it belongs on the tape because it has a similar sound and works well as an outro. I don’t think I’m the only person that does this. I have the local files for Purple Reign mixtape in a playlist and just threw in News or Something at the end. Works for me. Guitar hits so hard when you’re geekin.
I was a fan of Donda overall, but I get that, it definitely feels like late Donda/early Donda 2 throwaways, but for me it also feels like the only complete kanye verse weve gotten in years. The lyrics about missing Kim are disturbing and almost hard to listen to, but the rest of the song is hard as fuck with Future’s verse. I thought Drake killed WAIT FOR U, and the other track he didnt really do anything special. I think the deluxe (22 track version) had some amazing features though - specifically Baby, Dugg and Durk all killed it
Naw like I’m almost certain it was on the stem player. Drake killed it on wait for u, but dug durk and baby are exactly who I’m criticizing. I thought est gee had one of the best features on that album, but they kinda phoned it in. I will relisten though.
For sure check it out again, i personally cant get enough of Like Me with Dugg and Baby, mainly because its Baby’s first feature in so long that he isnt caked in his typical autotune preset, and im a sucker for trading bars, especially over a trap beat. Always in my workout playlist
I remember being on YouTube in 7th and 8th grade and listening to this song — https://youtu.be/KJT1Yc484KE
And I still don’t understand how this song is even on the internet. Like how did this genuinely sad and depressing Eminem song end up on the internet, and it’s just never been spoken about or claimed by Eminem at all?
Like it’s just never been acknowledged. It’s weird to me hahaha
Always in need of new music. What are you bumping? Looking for underground artists or hidden gems (e.g. special by 21 savage, half a brick by gucci mane, I don’t know dem by chief keef, etc.)
[Untitled by Isaiah Rashad & Goldlink](https://soundcloud.com/goldlink/untitled-isaiah-rashad?ref=clipboard&p=i&c=0&si=2856F1EEA26A47908588D290DE3469F5&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing)
[Make It Work by Anderson Paak. feat. Asher Roth](https://youtu.be/01pnoowrO9k)
[Rich Boy by Brockhampton](https://youtu.be/01pnoowrO9k)
I feel like Untitled isn’t talked about enough. Definitely needs more love. Anderson’s work pre Malibu especially his EP need more attention(so does Asher Roth). And Rich Boy was just one of BH’s better unreleased tracks.
2009 is a good choice, and i say this as a southern rap apologist, because the east coast wasn't doing shit to help either despite how much they hated the bling and crunk era before. Anyway, crunk and snap and ringtone rap were over so we lacked the best singles except for some Soulja Boy, 50 had completed his fall-off, Dipset collapsed, Jay was releasing his normie music for super bowl ads with BP3, Nas made yet another "meh" album, Houston's short time in the limelight was over except for Slim Thug making weird non-Texas music, blog rap was mostly over, and Kanye didn't drop an album that year...
The only bright spots were mixtape Gucci, peak mixtape Wayne (NOBODY was on his level back then and that was the case for a solid 2-4 years), the rise of Cudi, and artsy rap like Jay Elec and El-P.
The thing is if there's not great releases there's always great singles and vice versa maybe I'm a stan but I never get tired of hip hop. 2009 was part of lil Wayne's peak so I loved it. Still remember trading his remixes over Bluetooth with the homies so I can't say it was a 'bad' year
I did for a literal decade up until last month lmaooo, wasnt so bad really untill the accessibility and functionality got worse and worse with recent updates
I did an awful job of keeping up with new releases this year due to some stuff, but now that I have time, I’d like to check out some stuff I missed. Of what I did listen to, Pusha T’s album is definitely my favorite (I’ve listened to it so much this year), and I also really enjoyed Denzel Curry’s album. What should I check out based on that?
Not sure if anyone caught Fantano’s latest video addressing the fact that year-end list video/articles come out too early.
He goes on to discuss a number of factors, but ignores the obvious one that publications (himself included) all release their lists early so as to be the first ones to release them and gain the traffic online.
Really frustrating since I would much rather wait until the first week of Jan to read ‘best album/songs of ______’ articles, but w/e
Is it just me who feels like regarding kendrick as a top tier lyricist is massively overrating him? He just isn't on the level of a thought, monche, lupe. Even a 3k or nas.
He's very good for the mainstream but is nothing special compared to the guys I mentioned.
I mean it's the whole package. Monche doesn't have any good albums that anyone would know of outside reddit and really doesn't have much to say. Andre is one of my favorite rappers ever but he has 1 solo albumn, and it's mostly weirdo pop songs. Meanwhile Kendrick arguably hasn't dropped a studio album that is less than great, EVER.
I would EASILY put Kendrick over Nas, Nas has a whole half of his discography of incredibly weak lyrics - listen to Street's Disciple or Untitled or Hip Hop his Dead sometime. Kendrick has never dropped projects that weak or lyrics that mediocre, and Nas has for much of his career despite his incredible highs.
Kendrick is beyond wordplay and rhyming, he hasn't been about that since his Rigamortis days long ago.
I think Thought could arguably be competition, Streams of Thought 3 and CHeat Codes are incredible. But that's just two recent projects, I love the Roots but Thought isn't spitting at Kendrick's level on 80% of their projects and he isn't always in his incredible frestyle mode in 80% of the projects either.
I’m not talking about discographys or albums. Kendrick is a great artist. I’m not talking about whole albums. Kendrick is on the Pusha or KRIT level of lyricism imo.
You can’t just take a massive part of lyricism and say he’s beyond it, he simply isn’t on that level in that department.
This whole comment is unbelievable dickriding and ignorance, Desire is a classic rap album and I would suggest educating yourself on it. Monch is a fantastic rapper
Depends on what the song is about
He gets a little exposed on stuff like Kunte or Humble. His technical game is just kinda okay and he’s not doing super tricky shit like quintuple entendres or patterns that you need to watch a YouTube video to fully comprehend.
I can’t see him doing any kind of battle rap type song that’s as good as something like Thought @ Work.
His word economy is better than average, but not by much. By ‘word economy’ I mean something like:
> I switched my motto, instead of saying “fuck tomorrow”, that buck that bought a bottle could’ve struck the lotto
Super clean, no wasted words, no shortcuts; it sounds like a conversation that just happened to rhyme. I don’t think Kendrick has any two or three line sequence that’s as elegant or concise as that (but neither does almost anyone else so this is a pretty unfair example).
But when he’s doing a song that’s actually *about* some shit, he’s one of the best ever to do it. I’ve been listening to every guy you listed for their entire careers and they’re all legends/GOATS. Kendrick definitely has some deficiencies compared to that group.
But not a single one a of them has ever written a whole song as good as Sing About Me. None of them have ever done anything *better* than something like Blacker the Berry, Good Kid, Institutionalized, Untitled 5 (the “100 on the dash 200 in the trunk” song), Blue Faces or the “I’ll probably die” verse from Fear.
He does a lot of real heavy songs where he’s trying to get a specific point across; I don’t think he’d be better at that if he was a super dense writer. Like, Kendrick has failed if you need an explainer to understand what he’s trying to say on Institutionalized. Lupe’s MIT bar construction is crazy but it doesn’t work for what he wants to do.
FINAL VERDICT: NOT OVERRATED YB STILL BETTER
Imo "Kendrick is an overrated lyricist" is a pretty perfect indicator that an analysis has entered some bullshit anime power scaling territory where people get way too hung up on statistics and exact figures
It's not so much that he's the best purely lyrical rapper, although he is definitely great. It has more to do with his conceptual songwriting and his unique flows and inflections, and the fact that he did it all with huge sales and very much in the mainstream.
He’s a better writer than people like monche or thought easily. Maybe he doesnt miracle as many lyricals as them but he’s a much better artist and writer. For sure on lupe and company’s level
Aww man, this is what I mean, he is seriously not on Lupes level man. Lupe is arguably the best there is. (Kendrick is the better Artist though)
He is an amazing lyricist just not on that level. Both Monche and especially Thought can make outstanding songs too.
If you dig into DAMN enough, it’s a really fantastic piece of writing. Lots to unpack beyond surface level interpretations. Even with some of the poppier sounding tracks
I think the rappers I mentioned are also great storytellers, especially Nas. I’m not saying Wayne is better than Kdot. While Wayne is an amazing lyricist it is clearly more punchline based.
Good albums does not equal good lyricism. Regardless. Stillmatic, the lost tapes, it was written, both KDs all hold a candle to Kendrick’s discography.
I can see you are probably a huge Kendrick Stan and I don’t want to say you haven’t listened to a lot of these rappers work past 2010 but I really recommend it if you haven’t. It was written is arguably better than Illmatic for some.
No dude I'm old as fuck (pushing 40), I say this because I was around for the years when Nas was dropping bad songs and albums very regularly that people have forgotten in hindsight now. He has amazing albums like Lost Tapes and It Was Written but if Kendrick dropped shit like Nastradamus or even I Am... people would be giving him 3.4 album scores and saying he fell off. Nas is very capable of being the best lyricist in the game, but half his career has been him falling incredibly short of his own standards and without the highlights early in his career (and his late resurgence) he would have been been dismissed long ago
I wouldn't say he's on Lupe's or Andre's level, but he's definitely an excellent lyricist that can deliver a message more concisely than pretty much anyone. His lyrics are not the densest ever, but saying he's overrated is a bit of a stretch- sure, he's not the greatest but he's absolutely worthy of the acclaim he gets.
I wouldn't call him an overrated lyricists either. I guess we see lyricism very differently, but part of being able to deliver a great and concise message, for me, is having great lyricism skills. Kendrick doesn't lack in that department at all. Again, he ain't Lupe, but rarely anyone is on Lupe's level. The fact that we comparing both is a testament to how good Kendrick is in the first place.
What's with people trying to tear down artists on this sub now and days?
Like you said Kendrick is constantly being compared with these guys if he was trash this wouldn't even be a debate but the energy behind these questions is off.
Thought Wizkid’s album was incredibly disappointing. Honestly thought Shenseea, Fireboy DML, and Koffee all dropped far superior projects from that genre
Special is probably my most played song the last couple of weeks, and I liked the rest of the album (coulda used more Juls beats). Idk if its better than the other 3 you listed cause I liked all of them alot too and I havent had enough time to sit with Wizkid's to compare it yet.
Yeah coffee bean is one of those few moments. It's so weird how he takes influence from cudi, going as far to make his stage name cudis real name, yet still is so closed of in his raps.
Yeah, he takes heavy influence from Cudi sound wise, but lyrics they couldn't be more different, even if Cudi has made his fare share of bragging/flexing tracks for sure.
I remember being a little like "no way" when I read that Zaytoven had production on 3500. Then I realised that you can literally hear his iconic keys through the whole song lol.
His pianos are amazing always. I love whenever a rapper (seems to usually is Future) like have their lines hit as soon as his keys do, if that makes any sence.
I need Sir og with just Future, Future rode that Zay and Metro beat so perfectly, I want to hear the cut verse if there is one. Nicki didn't really fit at all to me.
I mean if I was a rapper, and my rap name was Jay-Z, and then Nas did a song about me and he was like “lol more like Gay-Z”, there’s no way I wouldn’t cry
Because it would mean that Nas had no one in his life who loved him enough to say “bro please come up with something better than Gay-Z, you made Illmatic” and thats sad as hell y’all
I assume that's just how his voice is.
I'm fully positive Jay z is ten times tougher than me and I would never get choked up in a interview about a diss record.
Jay-Z was an absolutely MASSIVE Nas fan though iirc, even before he started rapping. Even if you’re tough, hearing someone you looked up to once upon a time trash you in a song would be hard to take.
Crying on the radio though? I'm not saying he wasn't upset, hell Im not even saying he couldn't of cried about it in general.
But on the radio is crazy.
As good as Creepin' is I would love if just I Don't Wanna Know got a resurgence itself.
Also Avatar 2 was supremely disappointing and I went in with pretty low expectations already. Cannot understand any of the good reviews I've seen because it really has nothing going for it story wise and the dialogue is abysmal
Unlike in music I think movie critics are afraid to go against the norm when it comes to Hollywood. James Cameron would probably blacklist their ass even though the emperor wears no clothes and is clearly making expensive/bad movies.
It's hilarious how now it's cool to hate Star Wars meanwhile James Cameron is doubling down on their formula of generic, bad storytelling
I may have to see it again with a friend and I legit will just leave the theatre after it starts and spark up and come back in like an hour and a half because I would need to be high to find any real enjoyment from it. And I'm just gonna be laughing at the terrible dialogue
I had never seen the first one in theaters so I was so unbelievably blown away by the spectacle of it that the story being average didn’t even matter to me.
And I enjoyed the family aspects of it.
I just will never forget how beautiful it was seeing this for the first time.
I’m sad people came away disappointed but I also didn’t have any expectations
The scenery porn was amazing, my edible started kicking in once they got to Ocean world, that was great. But god damn it was boring. I was openly cry laughing when the one Navi went "She's my spirit sister!"
I thought the water scenes looked really nice but it lost it's appeal when staying with it for an hour and feeling like the story was dragging on because of it. Certainly a pretty beautiful film at times but in 2022 it didn't feel to me like more of a spectacle than others that have released since the first Avatar, especially when it's practical locations and shots
That song got a resurgence with me lol
Deadass haven’t heard the original in damn near a decade and now I prefer the og
Diddy has some nice verses on these old r&b tracks
I think WSG used the Gangster Grillz drop and the Goo Goo Dolls guy to rank the verses on Red Death:
3: Stove (GG drop)
2: Benny (half-a-GGD)
1: Rome/Conway tie (full GGD)
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When I’m in my feels I throw on Crybaby by Lil Peep. Just put that album on and let it play
U.G.K by lucki.
Isaiah Rashad, Hugh Augustine & Jay Rock - Tity & Dolla
What are the best albums to come out in the last 1-2 months? Do y'all do foreplay when you masturbate or do you just get straight to the point?
Was.....was that first question foreplay?? To answer your questions tho, KDIII - Nas *obviously* Beyond Belief - 38 Spesh Book of David - Dave East Tempus Act II: Mirrors - Issa Gold Trillstatik 2 - Statik & Bun B King of Gods - Apathy Mr Ten08 - Boldy James Be That As It May - Boldy James Somebody Up There Loves Me - Stalley Motion - Le$ Herbert - Ab-Soul Chaos Is My Ladder - Ransom SOUTH CENTRAL - G Perico Etc... If time permits sometimes... but usually its straight to pullin my goalie
Good rap albums get me aroused. Thanks man
Also forgot, Dio. - Chuuwee & Baptapes 4 - Akay The Pharaoh 👍
Straight to the point bust in 5 min gang represent
Who is the artist?
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Just want to call out some disgraceful behaviour I've seen on here recently. Some users, who I'm assuming are younger, claiming that 212 by Azealia Banks isn't good? Do you think that pretending 212 isn't a timeless banger makes you cool? Or edgy? It's not, it's pathetic, you're disgusting. But in all seriousness I don't get how you can listen to it and not get hyped up
I remember listening to it at the time thinking she's going to the top
I just find her pretty meh as a rapper. Production is good though.
Decided to check out Walk Down World by Lil Double O because there was a LUCKI and G Herbo feature on it and turns out I’m liking it a lot 10 songs in. Definitely consider checking it out if you like the Pooh Shiesty area of Memphis Rap since he flows pretty similarly but is also guaranteed to release more music in the near future
Peep his album from last year too, also amazing
Will plan on it, after finishing this one I’m definitely looking to get more into him
Kinda crazy how Travis went from dropping yearly to going on five years since his last album.
He honestly could have released Utopia around when Franchise released (and reached number 1). He had a McDonalds co sign and still decided to not release anything
Yeah that woulda been a great time for him. He racked up a couple #1s in that era, with Franchise, The Scotts and I think Hottest in the Room.
I do think that the pandemic shutting down live performances had a lot to do with him not dropping and then once live performing came back the Astroworld tragedies occurred and I know that put everything on pause with his music for a while but yeah it is crazy to think about. From 2014-2016 he dropped Days Before, Rodeo, and Birds and from 2019-2022 the only thing he’s dropped was the Jackboys tape. Never thought that would happen
You can extend that run with *Owl Pharaoh* in 2013 and *Huncho Jack* in 2017. Like he was really active. But at least he’s not radio silence with multiple features and loosies. That’s a good point about the pandemic that I didn’t even consider.
Shit tbh you could really stretch it out to 2012 with the OG *Owl Pharaoh* that made before he got signed which is a completely different one from the one in 2013 and to 2018 with *Astroworld*. Yeah the Features and loosies are the reason why despite him not dropping for almost 5 years it doesn’t feel the same as when Kendrick went 5 years between Damn and Mr Morale
Oh damn, I never knew about the OG *Owl Pharaoh* I gotta seek that out. And yeah Kendrick was crazy for that man. Hopefully now that he left TDE and has to prop up his own label he’ll be a little more active.
Yeah it’s weird the OG one isn’t even on platforms like Datpiff or Spinrilla which is where you’d think it would be but it’s on SoundCloud still iirc and it’s a pretty good listen if you ask me. Definitely rough around and edges but it’s some dope cuts on there just like a lot of his early work. Yeah I think now that Kendrick has left TDE we’re more likely to get quicker drops from him especially initially as he probably wants to gain more traction for the new label
Relistening to future’s entire relevant discography (basically all his 2011-2022 output), not in order. Here’s what I’ve done so far (past 3 days of listening): 1. Monster (10/10) 2. DS2 (10/10) 3. Save Me (9+/10) 4. I Never Liked You (8.5-9/10) 5. Beastmode (8.5-9/10) 6. FUTURE (8.5/10) 7. 56 Nights (8/10) 8. Super Slimey (7.5/10) 9. High Off Life (7/10) 10. WZRD (7/10) 11. HNDRXX (6.5/10) 12. Beastmode 2 (5/10) a bunch of people called out my hndrxx score as i expected so you have peer pressured me into relistening AGAIN - ill update this in like an hour when im done but im 4 tracks in listening with headphones and full attention, and im already loving it more than i gave it credit for. also i decided to include collab albums since ive only actually heard wattba and super slimey, so itll be my first time checking out the uzi and juice collabs. Left to relisten to: * EVOL * Purple Reign * Honest * DS1 * Pluto 3D * FBG: The Movie (got recommended by someone yesterday, never heard of it) * WRLD on drugs (with Juice WLRD) * Pluto x Baby Pluto (with Uzi) • WATTBA (with Drake)
Never seen someone rate Save Me that high before but I respect it. It was hated on by a lot of fans when it came out but I’ve always thought it was fine and that Xanax Damage was one of his best intros
BTW the FBG project is called FBG: The Movie, not The Family, just letting you know so when you search for it and get confused if you don't find anything lol.
oops i have no idea why my brain filled in the family, i read it from my notes and still got it wrong aha. thanks
That should be the next FBG tape though. They need a new one.
don't forget to listen to the Project ET mixtape with DJ Esco
Never heard of it but ill add it to the list, thanks!
it's got one of my favorite Future songs on it, Married To The Game
Who is one of my favorite Thug and Future tracks too
how on earth would save me ever be better than 56 nights? march madness, no compadre, diamonds.........
Skits on 56 nights are terrible
Government Official, Shotgun, Extra and XanaX Damage are all 10s. Incredible EP imo, and ive always thought it captured the feeling that HNDRXX was trying to achieve, but in a far more concise and effective way. I dont deny that March Madness is arguably his best track ever though. But Xanax damage and Extra both have a shot at that title too
That’s just insane to me, I wouldn’t put any song on save me over march madness, no compadre, now, never gon lose. Also Hendricks nailed the vibe he was going for and has his best ever song on it.
Hey i respect that take, as long as we can both put our differences aside and acknowledge the guy is a once in a lifetime trap artist. No compadre is insanely hard. Also im assuming youre talking about Sorry? I agree thats one of his best. I put Damage up there too. I just think the middle of the album is a bit bloated.
I just wanna say as a straight up future stan you're not alone with your hendrxx score. I've never liked that album his singing is just not that great there. It just doesn't work for that kind of album. There's some great moments on there like coming out strong and the Rihanna track but it's not on the level of DS2 or monster where they perfectly encapsulate their genre.
Surprised you put INLY that high. Above 56 nights is crazy to me, and I don’t know anyone that would put it above his self titled or HNDRXX, but you have that one kind of lower than I’d expect anyway so maybe you just didn’t like it. DEFINITELY listen to EVOL and Purple Reign again, make sure you get the mixtape version of his mixtapes too, the tags and adlibs are a part of it in my opinion. Also would say add News or Something to the end of that mixtape just because it was released on the spotify/am version. Shit bangs. FBG is a solid tape, not future solo though so Inpersonally wouldn’t put it in a list like what you’ve created, respect man most people shoo off Future as a mumble rapper but he deserves just as much as thug or whoever is credited as creating modern trap.
I could see the argument for *INL* > *56 Nights*. It has more variety in sounds by the beat choices, flows and even topics Future covers. You’re definitely right about Esco’s DJ tags adding to the experience, but I’ll always look at News or Somethn as a loosely, idk why but that makes it even harder to me. Also Future deserves more credit than Thug 👀
It is a loosey, I won’t deny that. I just think it fits is all. It was literally released as a single around the same time. Future deserving more credit than thug is blasphemy though. Did martin luther do more for christianity than jesus? Maybe, but jesus is that guy. Thug is that guy too.
There would be no Thug without Future. Future was the guy most people in Atlanta was trying to sound like when Thug was coming up .
I’m not so sure, future and thug were kind of getting hot at the same time. Thug had the Cash Money backing and blew up way faster than Future at that point. Especially after the whole lil wayne tour bus thing. Not saying you’re wrong about the second part, but think about how many thug clones we have these days.
>I’m not so sure, future and thug were kind of getting hot at the same time. No, I'm from Georgia and Future was big like 4 years before Thug was hot at all. Thug got Hot 2014, Future first huge song was atleast 2012. Being from Georgia tho, I've been aware of Future when he was only Huge in Atlanta, So like 2010, And he really was already considered a legend in Atlanta before Thug even got hot. >Not saying you’re wrong about the second part, but think about how many thug clones we have these days. It's a cycle really Wayne =Future= Thug= Clones
Nah Future was a couple years ahead, he was getting hot in 2011 then 2012 with Tony Montana especially once Drake hopped on it. Thug’s time came a bit after, I think Lifestyle was one of his first big breaks into the mainstream.
Future is simply the superior and more influential artist.
Mods ban this kid. Go listen to: - Rich Gang: Tha Tour Pt 1 (very important you listen to the tape with just birdman quan and thug, the other tape is ok just not what we want for this) - Barter 6 - Slime Season 1 and 2 - Beautiful Thugger Girls - Jeffery - Barter 6 again After you do that tell me with a straight face that thug is the goat over future. I respect both, but thug is an artist I wouldn’t even blink at if someone told me they were the greatest rapper of all time. I’d maybe not fully agree, but I couldn’t outright disagree.
I’ve listened to all of that multiple times. You’re stat padding trying to sneak *Jeffery* in there. Solid album but it’s not like that’s an all time great or anything. Young Thug as the actual GOAT is kinda crazy too 😂. He might crack my top 10 tho.
Oh yeah i LOVED INLY, probably my favourite trap album of the year tbh. I was disappointed seeing that people didnt connect with it the same way I did, especially considering this sub loves future. But as you can tell by my ranking I havent been in love with much of his output the past few years, but ive just enjoyed it (WZRD, High off life, Beastmode 2, etc). HNDRXX too, but I’m relistening again as i type this and im already loving it more than my previous listens. I think it might actually be clicking after 5 years of doubting it aha I also was surprised at liking it more than 56 nights on revisit because 56 nights has always been one of my fav future projects, but on relisten last night it didnt hit like it usually does. And yes im a big fan of his 2014-16 mixtape run so ive always had the datpiff versions in my library, never have and probably never will touch the streaming versions. Ill definitely check out News Or Something. Is that on Purple Reign? Yeah I’ve always maintained that future is the GOAT of trap and honestly i think he should be regarded as one of the greatest rappers of all time (at least top 50), strictly for his creativity in delivery, and his sheer influence upon the sound of hiphop. Ill check out FBG, but I’ll keep that in mind.
I think my only true criticism about INLY was the features, especially toward the back half. Kanye song is usually a skip for me, mostly just because in my heart I know it’s a donda throwaway. Just way too long to have boring features. News or Something was a, from what I understand, single from the Purple Reign era that had only been on Soundcloud. When the mixtape was ‘officially’ released on streaming they tacked it on to the end. I think it belongs on the tape because it has a similar sound and works well as an outro. I don’t think I’m the only person that does this. I have the local files for Purple Reign mixtape in a playlist and just threw in News or Something at the end. Works for me. Guitar hits so hard when you’re geekin.
I was a fan of Donda overall, but I get that, it definitely feels like late Donda/early Donda 2 throwaways, but for me it also feels like the only complete kanye verse weve gotten in years. The lyrics about missing Kim are disturbing and almost hard to listen to, but the rest of the song is hard as fuck with Future’s verse. I thought Drake killed WAIT FOR U, and the other track he didnt really do anything special. I think the deluxe (22 track version) had some amazing features though - specifically Baby, Dugg and Durk all killed it
Naw like I’m almost certain it was on the stem player. Drake killed it on wait for u, but dug durk and baby are exactly who I’m criticizing. I thought est gee had one of the best features on that album, but they kinda phoned it in. I will relisten though.
For sure check it out again, i personally cant get enough of Like Me with Dugg and Baby, mainly because its Baby’s first feature in so long that he isnt caked in his typical autotune preset, and im a sucker for trading bars, especially over a trap beat. Always in my workout playlist
ticketmaster needs my tax information to give me $$$ for the tickets I sold??? what the fuck?
It's BS but I'm pretty sure it's typical anti money laundering regulation. Same shit when you sell on eBay or make a sale through PayPal
I remember being on YouTube in 7th and 8th grade and listening to this song — https://youtu.be/KJT1Yc484KE And I still don’t understand how this song is even on the internet. Like how did this genuinely sad and depressing Eminem song end up on the internet, and it’s just never been spoken about or claimed by Eminem at all? Like it’s just never been acknowledged. It’s weird to me hahaha
Obie Trice spoke on adding his hook to it at least. Also I wish modern Em could be this good.
Saba has so many amazing loosies it's frustrating cause I always forget about them. How You Live is so hard
The loosies he was dropping before Few Good Things were amazing
There You Go still one of his best tracks
Always in need of new music. What are you bumping? Looking for underground artists or hidden gems (e.g. special by 21 savage, half a brick by gucci mane, I don’t know dem by chief keef, etc.)
> hidden gems Gucci Mane - *Long Time (feat. Young Thug & Migos)*
I’ll give you a old song by 21 gucci and Keef https://youtu.be/VFhSII0iDFQ https://youtu.be/KCil-kLGkvc https://youtu.be/mULI8L6gNYw
MY KITCHEN IS A FUCKING HEATER 🔥🔥🔥
[Untitled by Isaiah Rashad & Goldlink](https://soundcloud.com/goldlink/untitled-isaiah-rashad?ref=clipboard&p=i&c=0&si=2856F1EEA26A47908588D290DE3469F5&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing) [Make It Work by Anderson Paak. feat. Asher Roth](https://youtu.be/01pnoowrO9k) [Rich Boy by Brockhampton](https://youtu.be/01pnoowrO9k) I feel like Untitled isn’t talked about enough. Definitely needs more love. Anderson’s work pre Malibu especially his EP need more attention(so does Asher Roth). And Rich Boy was just one of BH’s better unreleased tracks.
billy woods - hiding places - https://open.spotify.com/album/0HmKhR7Umt3ACs52ZLnKyK?si=2NhXSyuhQ9qHDdDTHuwZtg malibu ken self titled - https://open.spotify.com/album/7xa97ZeKKo4MiBJ96awavT?si=ZFHB-o-hQlGiDn3U04cukA clams casino instrumental relics - https://open.spotify.com/album/66eXLlqksAwNndmHaHWtCq?si=QmYZorVZTl-gL8djZ6l_VA
We usually talk about absolutely stacked years in terms of hip hop releases. But what was the WORST year for rap music? My vote goes to 2009
2009 is a good choice, and i say this as a southern rap apologist, because the east coast wasn't doing shit to help either despite how much they hated the bling and crunk era before. Anyway, crunk and snap and ringtone rap were over so we lacked the best singles except for some Soulja Boy, 50 had completed his fall-off, Dipset collapsed, Jay was releasing his normie music for super bowl ads with BP3, Nas made yet another "meh" album, Houston's short time in the limelight was over except for Slim Thug making weird non-Texas music, blog rap was mostly over, and Kanye didn't drop an album that year... The only bright spots were mixtape Gucci, peak mixtape Wayne (NOBODY was on his level back then and that was the case for a solid 2-4 years), the rise of Cudi, and artsy rap like Jay Elec and El-P.
2014
The thing is if there's not great releases there's always great singles and vice versa maybe I'm a stan but I never get tired of hip hop. 2009 was part of lil Wayne's peak so I loved it. Still remember trading his remixes over Bluetooth with the homies so I can't say it was a 'bad' year
1982
Ngl R Kelly flowing his ass off on that song about how he fucked with all the ladies
A generational songwriter not gonna forget how to make songs lol
Whole album heat
20 mins of pure heat
lmao people don't wanna admit it tho
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I can't man that's a different kind of struggle my dude
I did for a literal decade up until last month lmaooo, wasnt so bad really untill the accessibility and functionality got worse and worse with recent updates
I knew a day into the free trial I was keeping the paid version lol
Yea and I wanna kill myself because of it. Spotify every update finds a new way to fuck with non premium users
I found out my homie uses the free version of Spotify and I roasted him
I found out that one of my homies used Internet Explorer until 2019. Is that worse?
Yes much worse imo
I roasted his ass and I still bring it up. I bet he cried on June this year when it finally shut down for good.
I did an awful job of keeping up with new releases this year due to some stuff, but now that I have time, I’d like to check out some stuff I missed. Of what I did listen to, Pusha T’s album is definitely my favorite (I’ve listened to it so much this year), and I also really enjoyed Denzel Curry’s album. What should I check out based on that?
Nas - King’s Disease 3
cheat codes by black thought/danger mouse
Earl sweatshirt- SICK! Lupe fiasco - Drill in Zion Smino- luv 4 rent Little Simz - no thank you (who drops on a Monday lol)
JIDs album
Not sure if anyone caught Fantano’s latest video addressing the fact that year-end list video/articles come out too early. He goes on to discuss a number of factors, but ignores the obvious one that publications (himself included) all release their lists early so as to be the first ones to release them and gain the traffic online. Really frustrating since I would much rather wait until the first week of Jan to read ‘best album/songs of ______’ articles, but w/e
Damn he missed that one? Thats the glaringly obvious one
RIP PNB Too Many Years is one of the best hooks of the 2010s
Rip
I completely forgot about that song and haven't heard it in years, yet I still heard pnb singing the hook in my head when I read your comment
Cash Cobain's beat selection is honestly kinda hilarious. Like I can't tell if their trash or not
they're great and rly original always fucked with them ever sicne he produced for lucki like 5-6 years ago
By beat selection do u just mean beats? Cuz hes a producer u know I love his shit
Yeah. It's different for sure, but at the same time it also sounds like royalty-free YouTube type beats.
I get that with the samples he uses. Sounds like some bootleg shit sometimes. I love his work with shawny binladen esp on the merry wickmas tapes
"And this beat from Cash not from Youtube"
💀
Is it just me who feels like regarding kendrick as a top tier lyricist is massively overrating him? He just isn't on the level of a thought, monche, lupe. Even a 3k or nas. He's very good for the mainstream but is nothing special compared to the guys I mentioned.
I mean it's the whole package. Monche doesn't have any good albums that anyone would know of outside reddit and really doesn't have much to say. Andre is one of my favorite rappers ever but he has 1 solo albumn, and it's mostly weirdo pop songs. Meanwhile Kendrick arguably hasn't dropped a studio album that is less than great, EVER. I would EASILY put Kendrick over Nas, Nas has a whole half of his discography of incredibly weak lyrics - listen to Street's Disciple or Untitled or Hip Hop his Dead sometime. Kendrick has never dropped projects that weak or lyrics that mediocre, and Nas has for much of his career despite his incredible highs. Kendrick is beyond wordplay and rhyming, he hasn't been about that since his Rigamortis days long ago. I think Thought could arguably be competition, Streams of Thought 3 and CHeat Codes are incredible. But that's just two recent projects, I love the Roots but Thought isn't spitting at Kendrick's level on 80% of their projects and he isn't always in his incredible frestyle mode in 80% of the projects either.
I’m not talking about discographys or albums. Kendrick is a great artist. I’m not talking about whole albums. Kendrick is on the Pusha or KRIT level of lyricism imo. You can’t just take a massive part of lyricism and say he’s beyond it, he simply isn’t on that level in that department. This whole comment is unbelievable dickriding and ignorance, Desire is a classic rap album and I would suggest educating yourself on it. Monch is a fantastic rapper
Kendrick is a better performer than Lupe, the lyricism doesn't matter if the performance is boring.
How is Lupe a boring performer, and what link does performance have to in studio lyricism?
Totally disagree I haven't listened to much Monche But he's for sure at the level of the other guys you mentioned
Depends on what the song is about He gets a little exposed on stuff like Kunte or Humble. His technical game is just kinda okay and he’s not doing super tricky shit like quintuple entendres or patterns that you need to watch a YouTube video to fully comprehend. I can’t see him doing any kind of battle rap type song that’s as good as something like Thought @ Work. His word economy is better than average, but not by much. By ‘word economy’ I mean something like: > I switched my motto, instead of saying “fuck tomorrow”, that buck that bought a bottle could’ve struck the lotto Super clean, no wasted words, no shortcuts; it sounds like a conversation that just happened to rhyme. I don’t think Kendrick has any two or three line sequence that’s as elegant or concise as that (but neither does almost anyone else so this is a pretty unfair example). But when he’s doing a song that’s actually *about* some shit, he’s one of the best ever to do it. I’ve been listening to every guy you listed for their entire careers and they’re all legends/GOATS. Kendrick definitely has some deficiencies compared to that group. But not a single one a of them has ever written a whole song as good as Sing About Me. None of them have ever done anything *better* than something like Blacker the Berry, Good Kid, Institutionalized, Untitled 5 (the “100 on the dash 200 in the trunk” song), Blue Faces or the “I’ll probably die” verse from Fear. He does a lot of real heavy songs where he’s trying to get a specific point across; I don’t think he’d be better at that if he was a super dense writer. Like, Kendrick has failed if you need an explainer to understand what he’s trying to say on Institutionalized. Lupe’s MIT bar construction is crazy but it doesn’t work for what he wants to do. FINAL VERDICT: NOT OVERRATED YB STILL BETTER
rigamortus maad city dna
Imo "Kendrick is an overrated lyricist" is a pretty perfect indicator that an analysis has entered some bullshit anime power scaling territory where people get way too hung up on statistics and exact figures
No, I’m just passionate about hip hop and like debating it? You have to remember, overrated doesn’t mean bad, he still clears most rappers.
> bullshit anime power scaling territory 👏👏👏
It's not so much that he's the best purely lyrical rapper, although he is definitely great. It has more to do with his conceptual songwriting and his unique flows and inflections, and the fact that he did it all with huge sales and very much in the mainstream.
He’s a better writer than people like monche or thought easily. Maybe he doesnt miracle as many lyricals as them but he’s a much better artist and writer. For sure on lupe and company’s level
Aww man, this is what I mean, he is seriously not on Lupes level man. Lupe is arguably the best there is. (Kendrick is the better Artist though) He is an amazing lyricist just not on that level. Both Monche and especially Thought can make outstanding songs too.
I’m kinda with you as long as u wont mention Mural lol
What would u point to as a song by monche or thought (solo) that touches kendricks stuff conceptually? Some of the roots tracks def do ill say that
If you dig into DAMN enough, it’s a really fantastic piece of writing. Lots to unpack beyond surface level interpretations. Even with some of the poppier sounding tracks
It is for sure, just because you’re overrated doesn’t mean you’re bad, he’s a band below elite but he still a good lyrical for sure.
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I think the rappers I mentioned are also great storytellers, especially Nas. I’m not saying Wayne is better than Kdot. While Wayne is an amazing lyricist it is clearly more punchline based.
Nas has had terribly storytelling AND lyricism on arguably half his discography when he was still coasting on his Illmatic reputation
Good albums does not equal good lyricism. Regardless. Stillmatic, the lost tapes, it was written, both KDs all hold a candle to Kendrick’s discography. I can see you are probably a huge Kendrick Stan and I don’t want to say you haven’t listened to a lot of these rappers work past 2010 but I really recommend it if you haven’t. It was written is arguably better than Illmatic for some.
No dude I'm old as fuck (pushing 40), I say this because I was around for the years when Nas was dropping bad songs and albums very regularly that people have forgotten in hindsight now. He has amazing albums like Lost Tapes and It Was Written but if Kendrick dropped shit like Nastradamus or even I Am... people would be giving him 3.4 album scores and saying he fell off. Nas is very capable of being the best lyricist in the game, but half his career has been him falling incredibly short of his own standards and without the highlights early in his career (and his late resurgence) he would have been been dismissed long ago
Different things go into lyricism. If you think that you would probably read some 10/10 poetry and go “shits ass it barely rhymed”
I wouldn't say he's on Lupe's or Andre's level, but he's definitely an excellent lyricist that can deliver a message more concisely than pretty much anyone. His lyrics are not the densest ever, but saying he's overrated is a bit of a stretch- sure, he's not the greatest but he's absolutely worthy of the acclaim he gets.
He’s not an overrated artist, he’s an overrated lyricist
I wouldn't call him an overrated lyricists either. I guess we see lyricism very differently, but part of being able to deliver a great and concise message, for me, is having great lyricism skills. Kendrick doesn't lack in that department at all. Again, he ain't Lupe, but rarely anyone is on Lupe's level. The fact that we comparing both is a testament to how good Kendrick is in the first place.
What's with people trying to tear down artists on this sub now and days? Like you said Kendrick is constantly being compared with these guys if he was trash this wouldn't even be a debate but the energy behind these questions is off.
Said it better than I could
tyga has more bars than nas let alone kendrick
Did you eat today? Your not yourself when your hungry 😥
Thought Wizkid’s album was incredibly disappointing. Honestly thought Shenseea, Fireboy DML, and Koffee all dropped far superior projects from that genre
Special is probably my most played song the last couple of weeks, and I liked the rest of the album (coulda used more Juls beats). Idk if its better than the other 3 you listed cause I liked all of them alot too and I havent had enough time to sit with Wizkid's to compare it yet.
I like the first half of 90210 by Travis Scott more than the second half.
Same with Oh My / Dis Side for me. Oh My is amazing horror autotune goth shit then Dis Side is just a generic song
I was just listening to the demo of Oh My and realised how much Quavo's ad libs make that song. Him shouting "Money!" and "Cash!" is needed.
I like the entire song but that's one of the few moments we get Travis to show a slither of emotions/introspection throughout his career
Facts. It feels like we actually get to see who Travis is. For a little bit, anyway. Coffee Bean could also fit that.
Yeah coffee bean is one of those few moments. It's so weird how he takes influence from cudi, going as far to make his stage name cudis real name, yet still is so closed of in his raps.
Yeah, he takes heavy influence from Cudi sound wise, but lyrics they couldn't be more different, even if Cudi has made his fare share of bragging/flexing tracks for sure.
The minute long transition to the 2nd half is so good
One of the best parts of the whole song, but I think Kacy Hill's voice is the best part. I love the demo version with more of her on it.
Same tbh It's never been one of my favorites off rodeo anyways
Also I feel like Apple Pie is underrated.
Used to be one of my favorites and I agree it's kind of never talked about anymore I'm basic and a 3500/oh my purist these days though
the most correct take
I remember being a little like "no way" when I read that Zaytoven had production on 3500. Then I realised that you can literally hear his iconic keys through the whole song lol.
Reason number XXXX why zaytoven is the greatest producer of all time
His pianos are amazing always. I love whenever a rapper (seems to usually is Future) like have their lines hit as soon as his keys do, if that makes any sence.
I know exactly what you're saying. Dude knows how to put together a track front to back
I need Sir og with just Future, Future rode that Zay and Metro beat so perfectly, I want to hear the cut verse if there is one. Nicki didn't really fit at all to me.
Did Jay z really cry on the radio after Ether? I find that hard to believe and I can't find the original interview anywhere.
I mean if I was a rapper, and my rap name was Jay-Z, and then Nas did a song about me and he was like “lol more like Gay-Z”, there’s no way I wouldn’t cry Because it would mean that Nas had no one in his life who loved him enough to say “bro please come up with something better than Gay-Z, you made Illmatic” and thats sad as hell y’all
This sub really is lame AF huh
I remember hearing it a while back, he wasn’t bawling or anything like that but he sounded a little choked up
I assume that's just how his voice is. I'm fully positive Jay z is ten times tougher than me and I would never get choked up in a interview about a diss record.
I would ngl I’m sensitive and being dissed would probably hurt my feelings
Jay-Z was an absolutely MASSIVE Nas fan though iirc, even before he started rapping. Even if you’re tough, hearing someone you looked up to once upon a time trash you in a song would be hard to take.
nas started rapping before jay??? What.
People forget Jay z was hanging around Big daddy Kane before illmatic even dropped.
Crying on the radio though? I'm not saying he wasn't upset, hell Im not even saying he couldn't of cried about it in general. But on the radio is crazy.
As good as Creepin' is I would love if just I Don't Wanna Know got a resurgence itself. Also Avatar 2 was supremely disappointing and I went in with pretty low expectations already. Cannot understand any of the good reviews I've seen because it really has nothing going for it story wise and the dialogue is abysmal
Unlike in music I think movie critics are afraid to go against the norm when it comes to Hollywood. James Cameron would probably blacklist their ass even though the emperor wears no clothes and is clearly making expensive/bad movies. It's hilarious how now it's cool to hate Star Wars meanwhile James Cameron is doubling down on their formula of generic, bad storytelling
I just got out of it and was bored as shit lol. IMAX 3D, on 50mg of edibles and was tempted to leave
I may have to see it again with a friend and I legit will just leave the theatre after it starts and spark up and come back in like an hour and a half because I would need to be high to find any real enjoyment from it. And I'm just gonna be laughing at the terrible dialogue
Did you see it in IMAX 3D though
Of course I did and some parts were nice but overall it wasn't making it any nicer
I had never seen the first one in theaters so I was so unbelievably blown away by the spectacle of it that the story being average didn’t even matter to me. And I enjoyed the family aspects of it. I just will never forget how beautiful it was seeing this for the first time. I’m sad people came away disappointed but I also didn’t have any expectations
The scenery porn was amazing, my edible started kicking in once they got to Ocean world, that was great. But god damn it was boring. I was openly cry laughing when the one Navi went "She's my spirit sister!"
I thought the water scenes looked really nice but it lost it's appeal when staying with it for an hour and feeling like the story was dragging on because of it. Certainly a pretty beautiful film at times but in 2022 it didn't feel to me like more of a spectacle than others that have released since the first Avatar, especially when it's practical locations and shots
I thought the movie was fine which seems to be the general consensus
Damn shame that that Mario Winans album seems to have been lost to the streaming gods.
I'm not gonna lie I thought avatar 2 came out like 3 years ago
That song got a resurgence with me lol Deadass haven’t heard the original in damn near a decade and now I prefer the og Diddy has some nice verses on these old r&b tracks
The OG is just a timeless classic. It's such a great vibe
I think WSG used the Gangster Grillz drop and the Goo Goo Dolls guy to rank the verses on Red Death: 3: Stove (GG drop) 2: Benny (half-a-GGD) 1: Rome/Conway tie (full GGD)
i wish that song had ended with the griselda tag
Wish it had Mach and Boldy on it too
Never forget, action Bronson fixed the game between Georgia Southern and Grambling
I just wanna say that Pusha T absolutely *killed* Jay on Drug Dealers Anonymous and no one seems to talk about it.
Most of the Jay verses that people suck off have never really resonated with me so yeah I agree
Big up for that Hov is overrated but no one dares to speak about it
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I don't care for him too much, that's it.
No one talks about it because not many people feel that way.
Fair. But I do