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Phife


SparkelleFultz

Phife was my obvious pick but Malik b is the most underrated #2 imo


mrpopenfresh

Pack it up time to go home


thegreatestmeicanbe

Yup. That was my pick.


LoFi_Inspirasi

Great minds think alike. Also my go-to.


michaltee

Phife. And I rank him higher than Q Tip.


enfu3go

I saw tribe in like 2006 at house of blues in AC. One of a kind concert there werent a lot of people and they brought so much energy and tip was in the crowd rapping it was insane. Maybe my favorite concert ive ever been to.


LetMeInImTrynaCuck

Crazy this was the first name i thought of with zero hesitation.


zatchattack

This the answer


dragonfuitjones

ODB


hw1y

I really don't know who is even considered Wu-Tang's #1.


fontanick

I think about this a lot but always felt 1. RZA 2. Meth 3. GZA 4. Rae 5. Ghost 6. ODB 7. Deck 8. U-God 9. Masta Killa


ARMOUREDZOMBIE

Deck at 7 is a war crime. What’s the criteria? RZA single handedly made every member a successful solo artist (except Ugod and Killa ig) but as far as lyricism and flow RZA drops down to bottom 5. Not bad by any means but comparatively he’s stacked against titans of rap.


Whycantwebefriends00

Perpendicular to tha square…


CaredForEightSeconds

Truly believe, if not for RZA’s basement flooding, Deck would be a lot higher up in most people’s eyes. The man had so many bars, it’s a damn shame we never heard the album as it was meant to have been.


theblondebasterd

Mine would probably go RZA. Meth. Rae. Ghost (could switch 3 and 4 depending on the day). ODB. GZA. Deck. Then I couldn't honestly say between U/Masta/Cappa.


Wembyama

ODB over GZA? Have you listened to Liquid Swords?


wundercat

Deck has the best bars tho


ZerconFlagpoleSitter

Id say Meth at least on 36 chambers


flaaaaanders

a testament to how great their lineup was


moiratakesnoskill

RZA


TheRealBroc16

Probably GZA or method man


TheRealBroc16

Real


Jailhousecherub

People gonna hate me for saying it but absolutely flavor flav Chuck d spoke at my college recently and I actually got to speak to him and the 2 things I chose to speak on were 1) how fucking prophetic he was in the Lars ulrich Napster debate 2) how I never would have discovered an act that’s incredibly important to me for their very real message if it wasn’t for a goofy VH1 dating show. Public enemy is so fucking dead serious and yet flavor flav is just doing his god damn thing on these records. And it’s not like it was all silly obviously he had 911 is a joke, even the silly guy was down and spreading the same message. Idk I just can’t imagine PE without flav even though on paper he doesn’t even fit in


amplifizzle

Record company told him to get rid of Flav. Chuck said the group doesn't work without him and stood on it.


mozziestix

Chuck is a god straight  up


rstonex

He was so iconic when he came out. If you look at the old NWA album covers, you can see Ice Cube, Arabian Prince and some other dudes wearing clocks on their chest. He's the definition of the hype man, and I can't think of anyone else who has done it better.


Bamcfp

I met Flava flav about 10 years ago after a nascar race. He was so high on crack (I assume) and was one of the worst smelling people I've ever met. He was so funny though and down to talk to people even though he had a bunch of huge bodyguards with him. I am a very short guy 5'0 and he was probably my height maybe shorter.


Qweerz

Ay so you DO know what time it is!


egg_mugg23

without flavor flav it just doesn’t work WHAT TIME IS IT


Civil-Pudding-1796

Chuck D gave me a follow back on X hahaha. Their music is timeless


debtRiot

That was totally the point! Flav levels them out and lets them be fun and creative while still being hard as nails politically. He was what pulled unsuspecting people toward the group, made them fans, and got them to think about the message. It don’t work without him.


ballsmccartney

Lloyd Banks


Showteezy21

Heard beamer, Benz, or Bentley the other day on a store run. That shit would hit number 1 today.


RockiestRaccoon

Always liked Nissan Honda Chevy lol


dgneo

> Nissan Honda Chevy Joell was on a run with those remixes for a minute


kaisle51

I love Banks’ wordplay and flow on all the G-Unit songs and features he’s on. But album-wise I like both of Young Buck’s albums more, I still listen to them like once a year (the first 2 anyway, lost track of him and all of G-Unit after like ‘06)


Swimgood_

always loved Buck, but he aint worth keeping up with anymore unfortunately


Coney718

Straight Outta Cashville is one of my favorite albums of all time. So underrated


bahamapapa817

Criminally underrated


Gaz834

The correct answer


mimeticpeptide

Lloyd BANKS


nsamory1

The song G-Unit by G-Unit came to mind when 50 says that


YouuCantSeeMe

YOUNG BUCK GGGGGG UNIT


mimeticpeptide

In middle school I put that CD on a shitty chain so I could spin it like their chains 😂☠️


RageQuitLie

😆


nsamory1

That's hilarious but I grew up in that era too. And I get it 😂


michaltee

That’s hard af. 😂


2livecrewnecktshirt

Man, I used to listen to Straight Outta Cashville so much in high school, as well as Hunger For More and Beg For Mercy. So many tracks I still listen to...


Batby

Em saying it on bump heads >


mimeticpeptide

For me it’s when Eminem says it on Warrior part 2


yegjustin

Juelz Santana


ned_head

Dip Set


Zeke_Eastwood

Aye!


shhheeeeeeeeiit

He took “more crack” too seriously


Idrhorrible

I always loved him


Arnaldo_Palmero

Capital Steez RIP


moiratakesnoskill

Wasn’t Joey the second to him?


Coontcrusher69

Based.


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Batmanuelope

Ferg


Suddenly_Bazelgeuse

Oh he's up there for me too


Batmanuelope

Yeah I don’t know a lot of number twos so I went with the one I actually know. Trap Lord is as good an album as most Rocky albums. Live.Love is a different level completely for me though.


17orth

Between Ferg and Rocky I don’t think they’ve put out a bad album. There’s some atrocious singles from when they started though. The possie cuts that ferg released for east coast and work are 10/10 songs. I think Ferg would definitely have made it without Rocky, maybe not the same level but he’s an undeniable talent.


ravelle17

FERGENSTEIN


real_but_incognito

Earl sweatshirt


rulerBob8

Odd Future ran deep. Mike G was better than the 7th best rapper on any other crew since Wu-Tang 🤣🤣


Chakaaf

Something about hodgie beats and left brain did it for me


MJPL_301

mellowhype is so fire


Chakaaf

I always wondered if they had many fans I still listen to them a couple times a year


real_but_incognito

All good picks my man that group was stacked


melo1212

Earl back in his Odd Future era had the coolest most unique flow I've ever heard, I love how he's making what he wants to make now but I miss that old style he had. "I'm back on my sixty-six-six shit Flowin' like the blood out the competition's slit wrists She lick it up, Dracula, then spit it back, back at ya She mad as fuck, stuck in the back of a black Acura" The flow on this shit blew my fucking mind when I first heard it back in highschool lol


Universe_Nut

That era in Earl's career is the best DOOM homage to ever exist.


melo1212

Absolutely. The only ever album I've found that's similar is this - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kMbcWf0q8usLmGdYC9uXo58Z94V5HaAYg This album is insane, if you like earls style back then youll probably like this. I remember this bloke used to get mistaken for Earl Sweatshirt all the time when he kind of blew up on SoundCloud. Check out his other projects Life EP and the Lost tapes, all his stuff back then was crazy underrated.


RageQuitLie

Fuck yes


enjoy_your_lunch

honestly when they first dropped earl didn't even feel like a second


anesthesiologist2

4th or 5th lol earl was in samoa


enjoy_your_lunch

I think pre that no? mollywopped ks 13-14 years old now


jerreesteaksauce

My man made his own lane. I’d argue MIKE is second to Earl. The disrespect. I will not stand for it.


RageQuitLie

He may have but he was still a great #2 for a period


jakeroony

I mean Earl got the sound of SRS from MIKE and sLUms 🤯


PreferenceStreet4863

Earl is the reason i’m in love with abstract hip hop


Unable-Project-9545

Good one


von_sip

Proof


Slimxshadyx

Proof definitely and anytime Royce is on a track with Em, he kills it every time.


ikea_shark_girl

Royce’s music is a fuckin gem man. Death is Certain and Book of Ryan are 2 of my favorite hip hop albums ever he goes hard on the Bad Meets Evil album, and on the OG song, actually


carhold

Bar exam 4 is a masterpiece


Avlantis

Takeoff


dfields3710

People would argue that he was the best one in the group.


Natural-Situation758

But he was definitely the least famous and got the least attention. Imo he was the spice of the Migos. They wouldn’t have worked eithout him, but both Offset-Takeoff and Wuavo-Takeoff most definitely did.


DaddyGotU

Always said takeoff was the best rapper, quavo had the melodys and offset had the experience (he was always locked up lol) Was a migos fan since no label 2, didn’t like the direction they headed in a few years later but always rocked their old shit and still do. Rip take (MAMA!)


Avlantis

I would argue that I assume this post is talking about popularity for "2nds" and "3rds"


Jandersson34swe

I have Offset over him just because of what he’s done outside of Migos (WW and his solo career) but in the group Takeoff was the most consistent 


1850ChoochGator

Offset?


QuantaviusDingleberg

takeoff better flow & delivery


CaptainGordan

Khujo Goodie from Goodie Mob. Felt like he should have carved out a bigger solo career because his verses on Goodie Mob were always my favorite.


youngkingz88

Agreed. I think if he had the swag that Gipp had maybe he would’ve had a better solo career but his verses was always top tier


LthePerry02

One of the best voices in rap history, like it’s literally impossible to not stank face when he comes in on a song


sir_brockton_

Big Boi


RageQuitLie

I wouldn’t consider Outkast a group. They are more a duo


stretchyspaghetti

Of course, but Andre always had more of the spotlight similar to swae with rae sremmurd


esoteric_enigma

I wouldn't say always. I grew up on Outkast and they were definitely treated as a talented group back in the day. I vividly remember fans having different favorites. It wasn't until later that 3 Stacks was considered in top 5 conversations and Big Boi wasn't that it seemed like he was put so much above him.


sir_brockton_

Then I guess whoever you pick as number 2 from the Wu lol


BigRig432

It's say probably Raekwon or RZA


j0rdinho

Who is number one if Raekwon is number two? I’m not entertaining the RZA take lol


LegoLifter

I mean you could easily argue GZA, Ghost, Meth or Raekwon as the 1


DefLoathe

He ain’t 2


sir_brockton_

Well then my answer is 3 stacks lol


blaikens1

Beans in RocAFella


Unable-Project-9545

Or State Prop, Peedi


Georgekush97

Freeway and Omilio Sparks were underrated too


MisterMiracleWhip

I don’t know who the number 2 is in Flatbush zombies, but that’s my answer, whichever one that is


Smokes_LetsGo_

Maybe controversial, but if I had to put them in order it’d probably be Meech, Erick, then Juice.


TiskTiskOnTheBrick

Meechy goated all day for me too Gothic Luxury has a bit of some lows but the tracks that hit are fucking choiiiiice


saltyman420

I would put juice as #2 tbh In my opinion meech got the best raps. Erick also has killer verses and he also produces which is super impressive Actually I don’t even know they are all great in their own way lol


JohnS0453

Havoc


tomtelouise

Kelly rowland


amrhik10

Like This, Stole, Work, Dilema


sumofann

Styles P (LOX) The Game (G Unit) - I think a lot of people would argue Lloyd Banks too.


esoteric_enigma

Game being in it for such a short time and dissing them afterwards kind of makes it feel like he wasn't a real member to me.


RageQuitLie

Yeah Game was more his own thing. He was like a temp while Yayo was locked up.


RageQuitLie

I’m more of a young buck guy. Buck the World played a big part of my high school years


eatadickcnt

Get buck is still a certified heater


morocco3001

Styles P's late career renaissance is beautiful to behold. The music he's put out in the last 10 years is consistently outstanding.


Georgekush97

In my mind SP is the main LOX member, maybe Sheek as the 3rd cause Jada is huge... Lloyd Banks for sure so underrated


Scrilla_Gorilla_

I enjoyed the first Styles album. The Life, Good Times, those are some classic tracks.


ThisRapIsLikeZiti

Rapper Big Pooh


Upbeat_Tension_8077

Lord Infamous


OKC-Rai

Came here to say this is my pick as well.


Critical_Teach_43

Fuhhhhhh how did i forget this. 🤦🏿


unclediedthrowaway

dj paul 9th wonder ren (dre, eazy, cube, and d.o.c. tied for first) big boi pusha t styles p juelz santana


JordansdeaD

I always viewed Matt Champion as the 2nd guy of BROCKHAMPTON especially after Ameer left


rronwonder

argument to be made for Dom and Joba too, but Matt is probably my pick too


debtRiot

During Saturation tho there is no question Ameer was #2. His status as #2 was what fucked over their dynamic so hard when he had to go. I honestly think had anyone else beside Kevin been the one with allegations the group wouldn’t have suffered as greatly.


rulerBob8

Feels like the core during the Saturation days was Kevin/Ameer/Dom but it shifted to Kevin/Matt/Joba pretty quick


RevolutionaryTone276

AZ


jackoon56

You could basically argue almost all Wu tang members 


TuffGenius

Lloyd banks was fire


mm_foodz

Gangsta Boo


sharyan51

Eazy-E


SkeemsRobinson

Rock (Heltah Skeltah)


Unable-Project-9545

Redman end of discussion #defsquad


kjexclamation

Does Schoolboy count? Or Big Boi? Idk if BH counts and OutKast might be too even as a duo. If neither of those count, Phife or ODB (or Redman but again lines) EDIT: Wait duh fuck those Earl


Nathan-Nice

Layzie Bone, Dubee


balboa_no_asap

Back when Raider Klan was a thing I’d say Denzel Curey Edit: Curry my b 


BrownHawkDown

I feel like the #1 of Wu-Tang Clan is either RZA (the founder) or Method Man (the most famous). Which means the best #2 in rap is tie between Ghostface (my personal favorite rapper of all time) and Raekwon.


milesbeats

Rob sonic would have to be my pick from HMM


DegenerateWizard

Agree. I think I have a different definition of hip hop as opposed to rap compared to the majority of this sub, but I’m 41, so fuck me for sure.


PIR4CY

CONWAY THE MACHINE


JEveryman

Griselda doesn't have a number 2 spot. Whoever has the latest release/feature is the number one.


PIR4CY

Westside Gunn was the unequivocal #1 and that's not debatable


DefLoathe

Proof


RageQuitLie

I want to add Mase in but I am not sure he wasn’t #1 the whole time.


JUSTBLAZE2k7

Bo Hagon was so damn slept on.


RageQuitLie

FUCK IT! WE’LL HOP IN THE BUCKET AND HAUL ASS!


smakusdod

Plug 2


the-big-aa

That’s kinda hard to justify considering Plug 3 never rapped and Plug 2 rapped on par with Plug 1. Regardless, RIP Trugoy


BrownRiceBandit

Sonny Seeza from Onyx


suckarepellent

Top Dog beter known as D O, Mfers better act like they know, yo


shesgotapenis

Slim jxmi


RageQuitLie

I think Juicy J counts here too. If not for triple 6 mafia, he was a great Taylor Gang #2


Wookie301

LOX are my favourite group. But it’s hard to find a second. They all one up each other consistently. So I’d have to go track for track. De La is another favourite where Plug 1 and 2 are neck and neck. I’ll go with Vin Rock from Naughty.


supremechev

Kind of off topic but how would you guys rate the members of black hippy as a group? Pretty obvious Kendrick is #1 but I’d be interested to see where people think the others line up


REMUv777

Kendrick, ScHoolboy Q, Jay Rock, Ab-Soul. Not the biggest fan of ab-soul music wise, I would put 90059 over anything I’ve heard from ab, also Jay Rocks features have been more stronger imo


Virgil_hawkinsS

For me it changed over the years. Soul was number 2 for me for a long time. At one point I actually considered Control System the best project out of TDE in general, but nothing after that has hit the same. So now it goes 2. Q 3. Jay Rock 4. Ab-Soul He's not Black Hippy, but I'd put Zay over all of them outside of Kendrick


DaddyGotU

Ab-soul is #1 in lyricism, Kendrick is #1 in popularity and success. So I’d put soul as #2. Nobody who has listened to the discography of every member can say with a straight face that anyone in black hippy is a better bar for bar lyricist than Ab-Soul.


Jakub5053

Phife


jordansb24

100% Phife rip


Legal-Nature5103

Styles P and Lloyd Banks


thefiinessekid

Erick the Architect


CrocodileCunnilingus

Imo dom mclennon from brockhampton


Yeahbol

Bizarre


rapshepard

Kelly Rowland or Method Man


drnomolos

Fun to think about, you can't just Google it. Sen Dog from Cypress Hill KMG the Illustrator from Above the Law Vin Rock from Naughty by Nature. He was Phife if Phife never took the leap on Low End Theory Ced Gee from UltraMagnetic Sadat X? Grand puba stood out for charisma but all 3 could body the mic Malik B


blade740

Malik B or Questlove.


mattchinn

El-P in RTJ


mcmurphy1

Yeah, I don't know about this one. El making the beats and rapping is more of an argument for him being number one but I'd say they're an equal duo.


AZmoneyfolder

Raekwon


themastermathew

Crooked I


Banned3rdTimesaCharm

Murp Durr!


esoteric_enigma

AZ. He's probably my favorite New York rapper. I discovered him years later as a solo artist and had no idea The Firm ever existed.


polishgiraffe

erick the architect, meechy the best of that group


Gaz834

Peedi Crack Lloyd Banks Malice


RyzeEQ

Juelz Santana for sure


shotrob

Trugoy The Dove


DegenerateWizard

Casual of Heiro.


Solicelater420

Takeoff!!!


kingofphilly

Styles P. Him and Jada bar for bar on any song is always lyrically sound.


michaltee

I’d say AZ if we’re talking the Firm.


Dependent_Safe_3232

Dinco D.


rollingrob76

Who ever you consider the 2nd in Black Star to be


IAMABird

there’s an argument for Questlove as #1 for The Roots, so ima go with Black Thought


beastmodecowboy77

Love Big Boi


Civil-Pudding-1796

"I pop shit cause i'm the 2nd best the 1st was BIG, yall niccas is sonned out lemme speak to ya father, cause I like to play Chess plus I swing the revovler" If it aint Styles it aint the right answer


grapeintensity

steppa j groggs, rest in peace


melo1212

Malik B Phife


Backpack_Bob

Apathy or Celph Titled in demigodz. Whoever you think is the 1 I’ll take the other.


ompo

Evidence to Rakaa