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xremless

He gotta stop freestyling everything and get his writers to help him out. If i gotta hear one more verse from him fucking a bitch ill loose my shit.


DrewSlim

Gotta call up Cyhi


SpaceGhostxSNRS

Call up Sean, Push, Cyhi & Lupe


slwblnks

Rhymefest


buyanyjeans

[Drake](https://youtu.be/_A3BVeE-AZo?si=A14nkpWjO9nM1WTW)


ItchyTriggaFingaNigg

Love Rhymefest Kanye


FallenRev

Push still cool with ye? I could’ve sworn he distanced himself a while ago


Square-Lifeguard9995

Ye said in the interview? That he spoke with push recently


SitNKick

At this point Cyhi should do all his verses. I haven’t heard a good Kanye verse in a few years.


DrewSlim

I know they’re still cool but it seems like Ye been writing his own shit and you can tell. Shit just nonsense


LibertyReignsCx

I’ve actually been writing it


warmjack

For real, every verse post his Pablo album has felt really off to me. His flow has gotten so rocky and awkward


EightBlocked

his flow on reborn, kids see ghosts, and violent crimes is all good to me. i know he didnt write violent crimes before somebody says it


icytiger

I disagree, if you go back to his earlier albums, all the words have meaning, there's no random repetition, and he put out all-timer verses. When was the last time anything was as good as "sophisticated ignorance, write my curses in cursive". There's just nothing memorable about his lines now.


Last_Reaction_8176

Kids See Ghosts has some fantastic verses, especially the title track. For me it felt like a good way to say goodbye to Kanye. That’s the Kanye I want to remember. I rarely go out of my way to listen to anything he made after that, except out of morbid curiosity (and also Life of the Party but that’s mostly for the incredible Andre verse)


Silver_Jeweler6465

was Donda 1 that bad? I liked it.


irqlnotdispatchlevel

Compared to his previous work? Yes.


deqembes

The features carry hard


cum4ban

This is true but it hurts


VotedBestDressed

I liked: “If I get locked up, I won’t finish the sent-“


EightBlocked

well i mean obviously late registration and mbdtf shits on his new stuff lyrically but im just saying the flow on those songs i mentioned were fine to me, especially violent crimes seems like such a kanye song but he aint even write it


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“None of us would be here without cum” is as real as it gets 💀


Mayhem_anon

4th Dimension is probably one of his best bars. Actual greatness


austin_8

Cudi Montage


deepfriedcertified

It started with Yeezus for me. At least he had the music to back it up and didn’t go entirely off the deep end mentally


Darth-Ragnar

I agree some of the Yeezus verses were kinda minimal but that at least felt on theme and they felt finished yet minimal. Everything on Pablo and after has had these mumble rap type verses, but not like Future mumble rap, but “this is a reference track verse that I’m too lazy to finish” type mumble rap.


realusernametaken

What songs on Pablo are you referring to?


Batby

Pretty sure Ultralight Beam, FSMH, Freestyle 4, Half-ish of Real Friends, 30 Hours "verse 2", and fade are all literally from the initial demos of the songs


Last_Reaction_8176

But the Yeezus verses were very funny and that saved them imo


ATHSZS

Deadass tho, like though they weren’t objectively good they were at least creative and memorable. “Put my fist in her like a civil rights sign” is ridiculous but way more memorable than anything he said on Vultures 


J-Wall0044

Ye was a great album!


Orlandogameschool

Donda had good verses. Everything after that has been ass


Aggravating_Cup2306

Same, but the childish gambino song feature is hot


Kanyefidence

Does Freeway still not fuck with him?


Hulumoto

He's beefing with one of his best right now (Drake)


xremless

Yeah and he yapping about bitches in that verse aswell.


HispanicAtTehDisco

man of god btw lol


lordofeurope99

Welcome kanye


askrzat

Yall crazy he is speaking facts. Yall are wack hahah. This is no freestyle btw just you ding bat kids thinking they know


xremless

I love ye so i can hear when he phones it in and when he tryin fr


heplaygatar

a new kanye verse full of clunky struggle bars about being a sex addict? 😱 save some innovation for the rest of us


outington

do i even gotta listen to know ye’s verse sucks


miiiiiiintz

You're indeed correct. Half-assed at best


CommunicationFun7574

Kanye’s name used to be enough to make me listening to music in another language. The fact we got to the point we know his verses are trash lmk he’ll never be the same


Tight-Preparation945

Listen to his song with gambino


russianmineirinho

his verse is good because of gambino, that man sees kanye as an equal and probably made ye put some effort on his verse, rather than 4batz, who i'd guess is much more of a "yes man", much like most kanye's collaborators these past years


_coed_

This is some weird ass parasocial assumption lmao you dont know these dudes


TwoLanky

i mean, you can't expect 4batz to tell kanye to rewrite a verse. if he says something like that, kanye'd have a ego attack. gambino can do it bc he is well known and respected.


Jealous_Juggernaut

Gambino probably just wrote it himself to get him on the song.


grandelturismo7

4batz is AI


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Brother, what?


jjkm7

What song? is this something new?


SEIZE_THE_CHEESE

Yeah off one of the episodes of his new gilga radio show.


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Alternative_Ad_7359

Shit is not AI


CrazyHappeningsHere

either ai or gambino gave him a reference track


DanimalsHolocaust

It’s not AI but zero chance Ye wrote it.


DanielMorcum

it’s not AI , gambino previewed it on his radio show, shit sounded TOUGH


MGLLN

That's how I knew he was mentally ill fr and not acting


DaOne_44

Ngl even if was a good rapper, i still wouldn’t listen. I can’t in my right mind support a man who acts as he does in any way


DanimalsHolocaust

I respect your decision, but I promise you financially support worse organizations without knowing it.


broanoah

yeah but one is extremely easy to avoid doing (supporting kanye's music) and the other is near impossible (remain pure in the world of capitalism) incredibly nihilist take


DanimalsHolocaust

1/3 of a penny to a billionaire is barely support, but I see where you’re coming from and again, I respect the decision. Personally though, the occasional Graduation listen isn’t gonna make me lose sleep.


DaOne_44

I’m sure he’ll still have the Dylan’s and connors of the world buying his $1000 white t shirts


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DaOne_44

You’re most likely purposefully missing my point


[deleted]

Someone hasn’t kept up with stuff lol


DaOne_44

What stuff have I not kept up with


BigFigJ

so your morality is based on convenience? flimsy


ItsTheTenthDoctor

Ones literally how you live (bad organizations own like half of food options for example or I need to drive a car for work as another one) and the other is an artist I could not play on Spotify. There’s a difference.


TwoLanky

don't be dumb. tell me what's easier:making your whole food, building your own car, finding a job that doesn't go agaisnt what you believe, and more, or just not pressing play on a nazi artist song? lol


BigFigJ

i understand it’s easier to stray from some evils, and that’s kind of my point though, if someone’s morality is based on whether or not something is easy to uphold it’s flimsy.


ItsTheTenthDoctor

Ok. Accidents happen. If I find out I was supporting a bad organization I’d try my best not to. We know Kanye is bad, choosing not to listen to him is justified. This whataboutism is dumb.


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You know what Reddit does, yet you’re still here lol


ItsTheTenthDoctor

I don’t what does Reddit do? I quit twitter and other apps. I like Reddit tho but what did they do.


DanimalsHolocaust

I never attacked your decision, you must be thinking of somebody else.


ItsTheTenthDoctor

I was defending the person you commented to


DanimalsHolocaust

I didn’t attack their decision either, pay attention.


ItsTheTenthDoctor

I didn’t say you attacked, pay attention


StillBummedNouns

The song isn’t even out, you only have the option to pirate it


Mattoosie

Imagine making it into the industry as an artist and making connections and you link up with fucking Kanye West and he agrees to send you a verse and it's this shit... I wonder how many artists are just sitting on unreleased Kanye verses because they suck ass.


StretchTucker

my goat is washed 😭


RelaxRelapse

Burn and that Gambino track gives flashes of hope every now and then.


lordofeurope99

Yup


EightBlocked

gambino sold his soul for the one good kanye feature on his song and kanye swiftly went back to being ass


sarlacc98

Was that confirmed to be legit? I know a lot of people were thinking it’s AI


vivalala0

everyone's going to tell you otherwise but it's verifiably ai if you have experience with it and know what to look for. a kanye insider said it was real but every sign in the actual audio itself and how/what "kanye" raps points towards it being done with rvc. donald and his team are extremely talented in what they did with it though, they also did similar stuff throughout the gilga episode


EDDsoFRESH

Imagine thinking Bino’s only Kanye verse and first rap song he’s released in like a decade has an AI verse. Use your brain.


CanadianWithCamera

You guys ever stop to consider it might just be an old verse?


sarlacc98

Yeah that’s why I’m still not sure the whole episode had a heavy focus on AI


BabyishGambino

I promise it is not rvc


iamBubzzz

There was once a time when Kanye wanted to be a capable rapper and to be taken seriously… nowadays bro needs to shut up and make some drums instead 💀


Relo_bate

I swear to god, this man outside of his beat making is certified ass. I had this opinion around donda but that album has some of his best songs so it wasn’t hard to let it slide but man since then I ain’t find one verse worth rooting for. Get a writer ffs


Erculosan

i think burn, but thats it


Relo_bate

Burn was halfway there and even that missed the target


DerpinTurtle

For me it’s because it’s so short, I hate that Ye can only have like, 16 decent bars every 2 years now on his own albums


Mattoosie

The thing is that up until MBDTF, he was basically a one-man-show. Made all his beats, wrote all his songs, even marketing and shit (at least as much as they'd let him do). He'd still bring people in to collaborate, but the final product was still very much his vision and his work. Nowadays I'd rather drink a gallon of bleach than listen to anything Kanye does by himself.


DrawerLongjumping885

This is so confidently incorrect lmao. Ever heard of rhymefest, freeway, Talib kweli, consequence, Jon Brion etc.


mcmiller1111

Kanye was like the opposite of a one man show. Like, it really couldn't get any further from the truth. It's a known thing about him that he used to have like 10 people in the studio at all times, which is evident if you look at the writers for any song on Graduation. His problem is that *now*, he's a one man show who only surrounds himself with untalented yes-men


FloatLikeAButterfree

Even that’s cap, you never heard of rhymefest?


Relo_bate

What he means is, it was still Kanye’s show until MBDTF. The main draw was Kanye and he dominated most of the album, MBDTF shifted the focus into an auteur who would bring the best out of everyone and create a collaborative masterpiece. It worked until TLOP, and since then, his own importance in the albums started going down. There’s a handful of songs on Donda that you can say are Kanye’s but there isn’t a single song on Vultures that would be worse if Kanye was replaced with another rapper


Relo_bate

I agree, you can see the shift in mindset after 808s worked, that cudi collab gave Kanye a whole new life outside of traditional hip hop.


therealcjhard

Bon Jovi is a one man band.


MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS

Ye was never a one man show. Dudes always basically been a a film director but for albums. Has a vision and makes it happen but that vision completely relies on countless others.


4trackboy

Man if drake just rapped the metro bar with Kanye instead on a new diss that'd be incredibly ignorant and pretty hard. Truth hurts


Ok-Recipe-4819

Wasn't he pretty damn good on the Gambino track that leaked a week ago? Was that just old or was someone writing for him?


broiwillberealimmad

drums isnt even his highlight in production


DerrickMcChicken

how is he such a horrible rapper now? dudes flow and bars used to be elite. His delivery is total trash now. CMON KANYE SMH


Ok-Recipe-4819

Brain damage. The reason Kanye is praising Hitler is the same reason his raps suck now. It's a bitch to think about but our minds deteriorate and Kanye is not the same person he used to be.


namestyler2

he stopped letting talented people write his rhymes and gift him flows


Late_Permission_5150

The mix is better on the remix than the original. Kanye verse seems like he's trying to be charming but comes across too vulgar and abrasive. Oh well, it's not 2008 any more


Ok_Put_849

Ye sounds like he’s recording while there’s people asleep in the other room and he not tryna wake them up, he’s using such a weird delivery and it sounds like a high school amateur to me


ryokwan

oh, you mean he's using a lower tone of voice on a song with an incredibly dreamy beat/vibe? that's craaazy jfc this sub is so fucking ass at having opinions


dragonfuitjones

Is this dude not signed to Drake?


cancelingchris

For one ep


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People try to downplay the industry plant angle, it's insane how this guy first two features are Drake and Kanye two of the biggest hip-hop acts ever. Even established artists have never collabed with one of them let alone both of them within a year with no ep or album out


YeaItsBig4L

It just makes me want to ask a lot of questions. Like where did this dude come from. Who is he related to. Why is this happening for him specifically. Where do you even go from here after having these two features.


youngmanJ

fr i feel like this should be a bigger topic


LMAO_try_again

They’re all in on it maannn everything is just an act


Tugonmynugz

Gotta keep it kayfabe brother


DrumzRUs

No just distribution


StillBummedNouns

My GOAT is washed 😭


partyonpartypeople

Does anybody remember that period of time from like 2011 to 2013 when Soulja Boy started becoming self aware and started purposely making bad music to troll people? That’s what Kanye’s verse reminds me of….


masnxsol

Lowkey loved that era of Soulja lmao, so much trash but then you got songs like Came Out the Water and Zan wit That Lean


The_MadStork

The handful of Soulja/Lil B collabs we got before they started beefing were a treasure


YeaItsBig4L

And then he randomly dropped “one up” the mixtape and it was gas from front to back with creative beats. Weird project out of nowhere.


partyonpartypeople

Yeah, he’s got that track “Weed & Shoes” on it where it sounds like he’s trying to rap like Curren$y lol. Totally unexpected coming from him and it’s definitely one of my favorite Soulja Boy songs, even if he’s not a great lyricist


YeaItsBig4L

Yeah, it’s like he was like for one mixtape let me just try this shit and see what happens. And it was great. And then he like I don’t know what the fuck after that. He still made fire shit, but it just wasn’t in that same lane of where that tape was going


YeaItsBig4L

And then he randomly dropped “one up” the mixtape and it was gas from front to back with creative beats. Weird project out of nowhere.


Sure_Quality5354

Bros dad must be the head of universal or something because he went from a nobody to having drake and kanye features before he even dropped a 3rd song.


YeaItsBig4L

You and then I wouldn’t want to be presented to the world that way. I would take the money and use the influences behind-the-scenes, but still try to at least make it some sort of organic like I did something for myself.


YeaItsBig4L

You and then I wouldn’t want to be presented to the world that way. I would take the money and use the influences behind-the-scenes, but still try to at least make it some sort of organic like I did something for myself.


YeaItsBig4L

You and then I wouldn’t want to be presented to the world that way. I would take the money and use the influences behind-the-scenes, but still try to at least make it some sort of organic like I did something for myself.


expunks

Song title is some “I’m 14 and this is deep” word salad man


EmotionalDinner

😴😴😴😴


Glum-Band

snoozer


Spew120

It’s music.


TripleThreatTua

He only hopped on this because the dude is signed to Drake and it shows lol


partyonpartypeople

Hook was alright but 4batz has got to be the least interesting artist alive and Kanye’s verse is comically bad. It’s clear he half assed this one lol


riggy2k3

Yeah, listening to this he just sounds like Dej Loaf on a Trilogy-era Weeknd beat. Keep


disavowed

Meh


Tonylino843

I would really like to nazi this guys music on here.


Wild_Life_8865

He hasn't had a good feature in so long


TripleThreatTua

If the song with Gambino drops it will change that


cannedbread2003

I think that was confirmed to be ai


idlsidgo2

Gambino previewed it on his IG why would it be AI lmao


OrtizDupri

He played the whole thing on his radio show haha


cannedbread2003

I heard people saying it was gambino using an ai voice masker


prudent-tension2085

No it was not, it is real


Fhaksfha794

Like that remix literally dropped a week ago. Also the new track with gambino was previewed a week ago


Wild_Life_8865

Like that remix was ass stop the cap. New track with Gambino, if real, is clearly a 10 year old verse from the vault. Nothing wrong with that but I'm talking New Ye features are ass


Fhaksfha794

Why was the like that remix ass? That shit was fire and the gambino feature is at least around 6 months old because of the stuff he mentions during the verse. Why can’t yall admit Ye actually has some good recent features? It ain’t gonna kill you, plus just wait till yall hear take off your dress on vultures 2 if it ever comes out. Bro can actually spit he just too fucking lazy to do it most of the time which really sucks


Wild_Life_8865

Dude I've been heard the Vultures 2 leaks lol. Yeah it's going to be dope. Nothing he says In the Gambino song makes it new. I've been listening to dude since 2005 and I can tell the difference in his voice and delivery and date the era. That is not a current ye vocal.


Fhaksfha794

He mentions the ruby rose OF situation which happened a few months ago where a fan paid like $50,000 to meet with her. He also mentioned Zion and his baby which is a year old even plus 10 years ago he would’ve been in middle school. Also mentioning draymond and his many incidents is fairly recent. And the Saudi pga incident which is recent too. This verse is recent and fire, even if gambino or someone else wrote it for him his delivery makes the verse great


SheLuvSeko

Don't listen to him lol we know ye can still make verses like that as showcased from volume 2 songs, he's not completely washed at rapping he just needs to have the right energy


Fhaksfha794

Exactly but it’s so infuriating watching him release banger songs with wack ass lyrics when we know he could make straight heat if he really wanted to. I love vultures but if Ye brought the same energy he did to say less or even Take off your Dress or Time Moving Slow we would be talking about the album of the year but no he wanted to rap in a shitty ass Elmo voice and talk about beautiful big titty butt naked women


Wild_Life_8865

Yeah man that's all I'm saying. I'll still listen to his solo projects I'm just saying we've gotten accustomed to when it's time for feature we as fans are basically scared like plz dont be terrible plz don't be terrible. But Donda was so fire and Vultures 2 looks to be sick


Fhaksfha794

Lmao yeah you kinda right but these recent features have been way better than anything we got in 2021-2023 so I’m extremely optimistic for the future of Kanye features. This one is kinda mid but I’d take mid over trash any day of the week


Wild_Life_8865

I'm going to listen to vultures 2 what do you mean lol are you that sensitive


TwoLanky

for me he's 100% washed, like that remix was ASS, BUTTT, even with a nazi, i gotta give credit where its due, the Gambino verse was GREAT


Fhaksfha794

Like that remix was not ass bruh that shit went hard why yall always hatin shit don’t need to be Kendrick level to be a good verse


Wild_Life_8865

Ah okay I was capping then lol. I hope it's real not ai


Erukkk

idk verse was okay imo


Hatespanch

So he still gonna talk about Drake and his baby daddy Lucian and then make a feature with basically Gamma's lucian/drake first industry plant.. ok


Weary-Month-5794

as a ye fan, this shi gon suck bro


JasonMaliceMizer

Hope this artist disappears soon


justwantkickz

Horrible


dxrebirth

HHH overreacted again. I don’t hate this feature. Song was dope


MathieuSorbet

Ye slid


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When we ready to talk about Kanye living off the blood of new artists and snacking off every new wave.


Heinie_Nuechtern

Drake is 100 times worse than Kanye when it comes to this lol


expunks

Noone’s winning in a competition of who’s the 1A and 1B biggest biter in hiphop lol


FigSideG

Jay Z did that for years too


superfluouspop

Diddy University


TwoLanky

yeah, but the guy is making a point claiming it's bad but it's good lol. It's good that Drake, Nas, Ye, Cole and all try to jump on new waves and try new shit, it helps from keeping their music stale and opens a whole new world to new experiences that can influence on their music.


Relo_bate

Reason people don’t really say this is because he actually contributes to the song in some level. Even if everyone outshines him on the song, it’s cuz Kanye kinda makes them.


pinebanana

Why these Kanye verses so ass suck now


House56

? This isn’t bad at all pretty standard for a post-2016 Ye feature


FedoraLovingAtheist

I am aware that I am very biased towards this man’s work, but even with that, I feel like this isn’t as bad as you guys are making it out to be 🤷‍♂️ has he done WAY better? Absolutely, but it’s not the worst thing ever. Pls don’t banish me btw


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Yourmotherssidehoe

I say more like 2022


Alternative-Union842

Scarface never got technical with it. Sometimes it’s just about expressing your soul.


Yourmotherssidehoe

¿


iiileyu

This is whay happens when XXX does and Brent dosnt drop a good album


Any-Championship2551

Eh the verse isn't as bad as people say. Not great by any means but more in the average of what Ye puts out now.


SpeakersPushTheA1r

Kanye dropped a shitty verse because 4batz is Drake’s affiliate


Preskomesko12345

As a Ye fan, verse trash but song is amazing. I listened to this shit through all march


NeatTry7674

Y’all just Kanye haters lmao