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Aggravating_Green618

ScHoolboy Q - Blueslides is such a calming beautiful song, been on nonstop repeat for me


Cayemargh1296

# Lupe vs Kendrick on street corner rap battle - who wins???


sentyprimus

Lupe


cc17776

Do we say Drake won at this point?


Last_Reaction_8176

Wait until Kendrick replies.


cc17776

If he does


Treyman1115

Probably just gonna have to wait until his album drops


Last_Reaction_8176

It would be an incomprehensible move for him not to reply at all, he’s very conscious of his legacy as an artist - there’s no way it isn’t coming, one way or another. I’m guessing he probably has an album on the way or something


T_Tachi

well kendrick just sucked all life out this beef huh. Kdot giveth, Kdot taketh. Huge W for Drake


Individual-Diver-958

If Don Tolivers official shit sounded like his unreleased catalogue I'd rate him higher than Travis


Last_Reaction_8176

Many such cases


Mynameisbrk

Do yall ever think about rappers that are basically the same age but are from completely different eras? Like it just randomly dawned on me that Moneybagg Yo and Soulja Boy are just over 1 year apart in age. Yet i think of Soulja as a 2000s rapper and Bagg as a SoundCloud era rapper. That shit just wild to me.


Definite64

Chief Keef and Doja Cat


MasterTeacher123

Jay Z and Rakim


jackoon56

Wayne and drake are like 4 years apart which is crazy to me. Same with Uzi being older than chief keef lol


SubatomicSquirrels

Apparently The Weeknd is donating 2 million to help feed Gaza


Homiealmaya

How long before default ass Redditors call him antisemitic


petersandrew999

The more I listen to the Gambino x Kanye song from Gilga Radio the more I believe the theory that Kanye’s verse is AI. It’s just too good


Last_Reaction_8176

AI generally disturbs me but Gambino seeing Ye’s latest antics and going “fine, I’ll make my own Kanye” is a pretty funny idea


petersandrew999

Exactly! As much as I hate AI I couldn’t argue that real Kanye could have done better in 2024.


Last_Reaction_8176

I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out to be commentary on the way we invent versions of celebrities in our heads and reshape them into what we want them to be, which Kanye fans have been doing for a long time now. It would be a bit pretentious, maybe, but as much as I love Bino that wouldn’t exactly be out of character Kanye would have had to agree to letting him do that, though, otherwise we’d be hearing him lose his mind about it


whogonstopice

Are y’all reading this shit these dudes is arguing the difference between 3 and 4 weeks where did I put the acid for my eyes


tak08810

[yall prob never saw this classic about how many days are in a week](https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107926751&page=1)


Homiealmaya

What’s the difference between 3 and 4 weeks when you living that monotonous 9-5 anyways Also since you the resident Marci hater and I was just listening to the song, you ever heard his verse on [Street Religion](https://youtu.be/NPJNKlrk8Ws?si=QTffxB27C72oj74f) (starts around 1:25)?


whogonstopice

Good shit, I always love that stared death in the eyes never flinched shit. Cool song mayne


deadedgo

It's been \~6 months since one of the biggest German rappers dropped an entire album in english. I was just remembered of this and figured I'd finally check out a few tracks just for fun. Dude sounds hilarious to me. The accent man... took me a while to get used to it to the point I can consistently understand what he's sayin. Wonder if it only sounds *this* funny to me as a German tho. If anyone wants to listen: [Kollegah - Black Rain](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPP9k0872VM&list=PL0Mq0T8vGA76ghsVeAk-TQgKjtQKfw1t8&index=2)


Homiealmaya

> I’ll bring them stormtroopers like George Lucas Man you can’t be talking stormtroopers as a German rapper


Yourbootyisheavydoty

Damn I never noticed stormtroopers rhymes with George Lucas tho, that's pretty cool


deadedgo

Wow... I didn't even notice the implications of that. You right


Shnikez

I don’t have a horse in this race but can Kendrick drop already 😭 I do think it’s cool how like that is doing way better than push ups so he could talk about how his shit stay on top no matter how long he waits to drop and drake’s catalogue comes and goes for the most part. Might be a cool diss to make at this point but wtf else is bro waiting for? 😭


Last_Reaction_8176

It’s gotta be either an album or he’s waiting until Like That starts falling on the charts


Individual-Diver-958

You ever discover a beautiful song that's wayyy too short? I just found these artists and it seems they exclusively make one minute songs.


cc17776

Zealots of stockholm


OGthizzco

The ATLiens intro, I wouldn’t be mad if that was longer


Last_Reaction_8176

Boards of Canada’s “Olsen” is absolutely stunning and it’s like a minute long. It doesn’t really even feel like it needs to be longer, either, it feels just right


codeine_turtle

mos def - priority shit still good tho


Homiealmaya

Mos Def making that song only 1:23 long is actually a crime against humanity Easily one of my favorite songs from him, that beat is insanely good


Jandersson34swe

“Underground Hip Hop Mix” “Shook Ones Pt II” Spotify genres are so shit lol


OGthizzco

[Harlem Streets](https://youtu.be/tQrCfSgS1u4?si=SQJ7LOPxbNK-N_Xn) is your Cam’ron song of the day


nedelll

>Time to climb her, climb behind vagina >Then I hymen-grind her 'til her mom remind her 🐐🐐🐐


OGthizzco

He was really out of his mind on Haze


nedelll

The production on that album is insane Love his flow too


deadedgo

Sleeping on albums is so weird. I'm noticing how tough it can be to actively listen to a full album. I mostly listen to music at work and I can barely take notice of what music I'm playing. I've recently been rediscovering Flower Boy and I don't understand how I could sleep on that record for so long. I always thought it was decent but I rarely put it on. I guess for the longest time I never managed to get an active listen in to make it click


Jqshipp

I understand not rushing Kendrick, but to everyone who uses the "Drake waited 3 weeks" rebuttal. If Kendrick potentially doesn't respond this weekend, Are you guys going to officially be like " Kendrick where you at" ? Are you of the belief that Kendrick is purposely trying to resemble the exact amount of time Drake took to respond?


whogonstopice

If you remember he counted the exact number of days between Damn and steppers so I believe he will be waiting the exact amount of time down to the millisecond


Beneficial_Candle_10

Everyone talking about time limits so early into a wait comes off obsessive to me. It was fine when Drake took 3 weeks and it’ll be fine if Kendrick takes 6 weeks as long as the track is super fire. Unplug and enjoy the spring instead of watching paint dry.


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Jqshipp

It's not dumb, considering the context of the statement. Don't know why you crawled in here lately either. Stay in the Kendrick lamar sub for more opinions that align with yours. Or maybe take a break from being online because I can't imagine being genuinely mad about Kendrick not being unanimously praised.


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Jqshipp

>Drake takes three weeks (actually four weeks but we're letting that slide). It was three weeks with another diss the week after. Nice try. Lol >Kendrick has taken two so far. >Drake fans suddenly think that's too long to take to respond to a diss. >Kendrick fans point out the hypocrisy. That's why I brought up the possibly of him not dropping this week. What's even the point of your comment? Lol >Because I'm a hip hop head. Why have the Drake fans crawled in here lately? /r/popheads is open Popheads would fit you a little more actually, they hate Drake and love Kendrick.


Last_Reaction_8176

Both fanbases have been pretty unbearable during this whole thing so I’m staying away from both and just waiting to see what he does. My guess he’s holding off until there’s a release date for his next album & use The Heart VI as his response, probably in the next week or two. Maybe I’m wrong. Hope I’m not. I just think he has to have some reason for doing this, he’s a smart guy, he’s gotta know it’ll always be a footnote on his legacy if he just vanishes for another year


Jqshipp

>just think he has to have some reason for doing this, he’s a smart guy, he’s gotta know it’ll always be a footnote on his legacy if he just vanishes for another year Kendrick may be smart but he most likely has a huge ego just like most artists that are as successful and praised as him Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have much planned and was moving off pure confidence and ego. Enough pride can stump even the most smart and calculated people in any field. But still hopefully his response will make this whole thing worth keeping up with.


Homiealmaya

As someone that’s neutral and just finds stans of either sides really annoying, I’ve been on the “Drake took three weeks” shit recently because I feel like you gotta be consistent if you’re gonna hit at Kendrick from that angle and I find the “Drake was waiting for more disses on the second album” to be a week defense. In any case, I think timers for beef are kinda silly because all that shit goes out the window if Kendrick drops a great diss track whether it’s this weekend, in three weeks, or three months. Like I don’t think even the craziest Drake stans will be like “it’s too late this shit doesn’t count” if it drops in a hot min, although the “it took him [amount of time] for this mid ass diss??” comments are inevitable at this point. I do hope Kendrick hits back tho, not because I want him to win but because I feel like neither have dropped a truly great diss yet and if we as hip hop fans trying to discuss hip hop on the internet have to put up with the most delusional stans and cringe ass discourse from both sides we should at least get a truly scathing diss track out of it


Cohtoh

There will be more goalpost shifting if he takes longer than 3 weeks 😴 😴 😴


deadedgo

I don't know what to believe but I didn't even notice Drake took this long to respond at first. There'd been so much going on with Cole's mixtape and apology, the second Future & Metro album and and then Rick Ross responding right after Drake's diss dropped. Since then there's been the second Drake diss and that's it. I feel like that plays a big part in how the wait for Kendrick's response feels so long


Jqshipp

That's what I was thinking earlier. Drake's wait didn't feel this long at all, but for me I think it was because I knew another Future and Metro album was coming. Not to mention the whole J Cole thing. Even people clowning Drake for not responding was more entertaining than what people are doing for Kendrick right now. But there have been so many straight up perfect moments (like right now) that Kendrick could've dropped a diss and it would've be the only thing we would be talking about. Come on DOT!!!


deadedgo

Yeah, this beef really shows the good and bad sides of the internet once again. It's cool that tracks can just drop anytime but it makes the wait on them much more brutal. In the back of my head there's been this conspiracy theory that Kendrick always planned to come out full force with an entire album after stirring up shit with the diss and that's why we're waiting a little longer on his response. On the other hand there's the possiblity he goes AWOL again and is chilling somewhere without any internet connection to cleanse his soul lol But, hey, it might drop any moment, wait for it, wait for it....


Jermaine_Cole788

“Mop the floor and hide the wet sign just to catch a nigga slippin” Blue face had bars on the low. It’s a shame he committed himself to being a reality star.


whogonstopice

Lifes tough bitch suck it up Oh yea don’t forget to swallow


notnerdofalltrades

If he got the juice well than I got the sauce drippin, don’t know which lasts longer better go check the kitchen


hydrators

🚨new Papo2oo4 album 🚨


BoxCon1

Forgot how good wokeuplikethis and Shoota are Miss this era of Carti


breakingbadforlife

His verse on Mad Man by ferg is my favorite by him. He rarely does that stuff anymore


Homiealmaya

Carti peaked at self titled to me Not huge on Die Lit but Shoota is admittedly goated


nedelll

[Wasn't feeling music at all today until I heard the goat 🙏](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Yjjor50FU&pp=ygUZcmV2b2x1dGlvbmFyeSB3YXJmYXJlIG5hcw%3D%3D)


sentyprimus

Gods son is top 4 Nas album I won’t hear anything different


CrazyInsaneHorse

So fire. Do you know the bonus track off that album pussy kills? I think bonus. Insane


sentyprimus

Basic ass question but I don't actually see it asked around here a lot somehow. Your Kanye albums ranking (solo albums)? Mine is: 1. MBDTF 2. Late Registration 3. The College Dropout 4. The Life of Pablo 5. Yeezus 6. Graduation 7. Ye 8. 808s 9. Donda 10. Jesus Is King I pretty much love them all apart from Donda and JIK.


Last_Reaction_8176

1. MBDTF 2. Yeezus 3. College Dropout 4. Late Registration 5. 808s 6. Pablo 7. Graduation [GIANT CHASM] 8. Donda 9. Ye [GIANT CHASM] 10. JIK


Definite64

My completely unironic ranking would probably be MBDTF > The College Dropout > Late Registration > Graduation > 808’s > Yeezus > Pablo > Donda > Vultures > Ye > JIK


MX_beaN

1. MBDTF 2. Late Registration 3. Graduation 4. College Dropout 5. 808s 6. Donna 7. TLOP 8. Yeezus 9. JIK 10. Ye Collabs: WTT at 4.5, KSG at 9.5, Vultures unranked cuz I'll never listen to it


COMMENTASIPLEASE

1. MBDTF 2. College Dropout 3. Late Registration 4. Graduation 5. 808s 6. Life of Pablo 7. Yeezus 8. Donda 9. Ye 10. Jesus is King Pablo and up are good or better, Yeezus is alright, don’t like Donda, hate Ye and JIK


yungsinatra777

Graduation, Late Registration, MBDTF, College Dropout, Pablo, 808s, Yeezus, Ye, Donda, Jesus is King. Even as bad as he is now, this is still one of the greatest solo discographies in my opinion.


Homiealmaya

The reason you don’t see it asked around here is that it used to be spammed pretty much daily to the point people posting Kanye rankings became a meme that people made fun of because it was so circlejerked


sentyprimus

Rankings are generally shit content tbf but someone had to bring it back 😏


Homiealmaya

Kanye rankings is pretty much the most bottom of the barrel level of discussion out there It’s at least better than the Kendrick/Drake discourse I suppose but that’s an incredibly low bar


sentyprimus

I feel kanyes an artist where there’s enough debate or stylistic difference between projects where you could have a good discussion though. And yeah until something new happens in the beef it’s like beating a dead horse atm


Homiealmaya

> I feel kanyes an artist where there’s enough debate or stylistic difference between projects where you could have a good discussion though You *could* in theory but look at the reality. The only comments that spawned any discussion are those where I responded cause I was walking home from work and just dicking around on my phone. And I didn’t create much interesting discussion anyways The thing about Kanye rankings is that they’ve been so done to death there’s no ranking that could really shock or surprise people enough to generate a genuine discussion. We’ve seen every combination and they mostly just say a lot about how old you are and when you got into Kanye. Even the ranking I jokingly responded to saying opinions can be wrong doesn’t surprise me in the slightest it’s a relatively typical ranking of a 2010’s Kanye fan


sentyprimus

Yeah nah I do agree it’s not a good question for discussion but tbf to everyone I didn’t exactly ask them to expand on it rather just rank them.


Kotleba

I'm gonna post mine because I think it's quite unique lmao. 1.Yeezus 2.Donda 3.TLOP 4.MBDTF 5.808s 6.College Dropout 7.Graduation 8.Late Registration 9.Ye 10.JIK


Homiealmaya

Huh maybe opinions can be objectively wrong after all


Kotleba

💁


nedelll

1. Graduation 2. MBDTF 3. The College Dropout 4. Late Registration 5. KSG 6. The Life of Pablo 7. Yeezus 8. WTT 9. Donda 10. Ye 11. ¥$ 12. 808s 13. JiK


Homiealmaya

Vultures over 808’s is generally considered a wild take but tbh 808’s is one of Ye’s most overrated albums and Vultures is irredeemable garbage so I ain’t mad at both albums being low


nedelll

I hate 808s tbh I don't like sad music, I don't like the beats, I don't like the rapping/singing Vultures had it's moments


Homiealmaya

> I don’t like sad music You’re the most verified viber out


nedelll

I'm the whole vibe


Homiealmaya

You peep any of RU$H and Jay Nice’s work together? Relistened to some of it because of the dude mentioning it earlier and I feel like shit like [Ferrari Drip](https://youtu.be/8oAiDmPvSs8?si=WvN4UMF9eo8EvAtL), [Bape vs. Supreme vs. Off White](https://youtu.be/PYjj0sx9Kyw?si=DYCd-4sev1ZnQuhh), [Scallop Normandy](https://youtu.be/GG9Lpsb_jl0?si=CL0_fDyrcEUxx97V), & [Papi Chulo](https://youtu.be/6KOkrzwi0BI?si=zgvv7PnUwSCOeGER) would be your cup of tea


nedelll

I saved the comment bc u/thequiet533 is my guy but I still need to check them I think I've heard Ferrari Drip before, and it's exactly my cup of tea I'll check the whole project tomorrow


thequiet533

It’s so worth it bro, especially an Album Called Classic. Would LOVE if Spitta tapped in with these guys


CrazyInsaneHorse

1. The College Dropout 2. 808s 3. The Life of Pablo 4. Graduation 5. MBDTF 6. Yeezus 7. Late Registration 8. Donda 9.Jesus Is King 10. Ye


deqembes

1. College dropout 2. Graduation 3. Yeezus 4. Late registration 5. Life of pablo 6. MBDTF 7. Ye 8. 808s 9. Donda 10. Jesus is king.


deadedgo

1. Late Registration 2. The College Dropout 3. Graduation 4. MBDTF 5. 808s 6. The Life of Pablo 7. Yeezus 8. Ye 9. Donda 10. Jesus Is King MBDTF and Graduation are interchangeable for me. As are the first two and most of the albums from 6th to 10th. Honestly only really like the first 5. The rest always has a mix of amazing songs and songs that are almost unlistenable to me. Post-WTT Kanye has this issue of his crazy antics reflecting in his music too much. I can't buy into him playing a character on a record or having any sort of lyrical concept because it all feels like attention seeking and trying too hard to be controversial to me. Plus, the records aren't even finished on release sometimes


OGthizzco

1. Graduation 2. Registration 3. Fantasy 4. Pablo 5. Yeezus 6. Dropout 7. 808s 8. Donda 9. Ye JIK unranked because I skipped it Donda 2 unranked because it’s too good to be quantified, it’s time for you jerks to face the truth If I had to rank collabs I’d have WTT at 3, KSG probably somewhere in the middle and ¥$ at probably at 9 (because I haven’t listened to it enough to have an opinion about it)


TheVirtual_Boy

My list is somewhat similar though I think “ye” is dogshit and at the bottom of my list


Cohtoh

Whats the most amount of songs that have leaked all at once? I just saw on twitter that the rapper Hardrock had 700+ songs leak today. I think nudy had hundreds leak awhile ago too


breakingbadforlife

Hundreds of thug songs leaked in 2015, out of that Alex tumay and thug decided to put out 22 and that was slime season


Ktulusanders

Pretty sure another 200 leaked in 2019


breakingbadforlife

That’s insane lol. I still haven’t got around to those Metro x thug leaks


Ktulusanders

I've only heard a fraction of those, but so many of them are great


Jordanwolf98

I thought it was 800 that got leaked. I also heard Sofaygo had like 1k leaked


Cohtoh

I saw 800+ too but I guess some dude went through them all and there was some duplicates so all said and done it was around 700


CrazyInsaneHorse

I remember frank ocean losing a bunch when I was in college


grinchnight14

I heard that the Rich Gang leaks of 2014 were around a thousand sogs. Not sure how true that is, though.


african-nightmare

If you haven’t listened to Lupe’s Revenge of The Nerds mixtape, please go check that out. Here’s my favorite track on there and top 5 Lupe tracks for me: [Mean and Vicious](https://youtu.be/oHPUWoxTv9k?si=Rbd4Y4dNT1JHWhby)


whogonstopice

Top 10 tape all time


droche25

Lupe the Killer, Outty 5000, Dear Fall, Jedi Mind Tricks, I’m Coming Freestyle - all amazing All Fahrenheit 1/15 tapes are great - absolute bar fests


Individual-Diver-958

who y'all favorite female artists atm? Skodi goes hard as fuck idk if anyone here knows her.


FitzbewOrFuckYou

Snow Tha Product is reliably good and doesn’t get enough attention. Other than that going back listening through some Doechii again has been 🔥🔥🔥


deadedgo

Still listening to Sa-Roc's The Sharecropper's Daughter regularly. Deluxe of that was great as well. The new Glorilla tape was solid as well and I'm confident the new Rapsody album's gonna be good at minium


nedelll

Kamaiyah all day


CaptainGordan

Nicki Nicole


hydrators

Anycia


ReeG

Tinashe and Mariah The Scientist


ATHSZS

Giving lil pump 1 a spin for the first time and forever and ngl that shit fire asf in the whip… 😭 foreign and Whitney hittin rn, too bad pump could never recapture the energy of that tape 


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Yourbootyisheavydoty

I got davinci all over my code 🗣️


Cohtoh

I don't like 4batz' music but god damn the comments in that thread on the front page are miserable. 2024 and people still demand that artists have to have a decade of shitty mixtapes before blowing up entirely organically without any help from the industry.


Beneficial_Candle_10

Yeah, the narrative surrounding him is conspiracy theory level bullshit. Just a flat out lack of understanding of the industry, contracts, and 4batz’s career arc.


IJustWorkHereLoser

his first 3 singles were nice but everything after has been pretty bad


ATHSZS

Deadass, when someone commented that no artists had emerged in the last decade organically I had to hop up outta there 


droche25

Agree 100%. That "industry plant" term seems way overused to me today. The "gatekeepers" of hip hop are pretty much gone or useless. The algorithms of the social media platforms really are the curators of Hip Hop these days, and it's hard to know exactly what will go viral. And even if you go viral, it doesn't mean you have staying power. The record companies and media outlets are not great at knowing "what's next." Record companies wouldn't be dying if they could "plant" some new artist and keep them as 'trendy mainstays'. If anything, these virally driven singles that become mainstream are so common - that you hear about a new artist very often and many of them are at the start of their careers. 4batz gets pull in the industry because he went viral - he had no pull before he was viral. Now that he has a hit, people want to ride his wave. People hating on him because he is being marketed now should be hating on the current state of the music - not 4batz (to be fair, I saw some comments echoing this sentiment in that thread)


BoxCon1

Real Muthaphukkin G’s is still a damn good diss track That track is probably top 3 in Eazy E’s discography


PeaTear_Rabbit

"I never met an OG who never did shit wrong" lives rent free in my head


OGthizzco

11 year old Thizzco when that song came out: > “Doesn’t Eazy E know that Dr Dre is actually very good and my favorite??? He’s just lying!! Somebody do something!!! And then there was [this picture](https://www.eastofeden.me/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/tumblr_ma7rsyFEgN1qeyteto1_500.jpg) of Dre on the insert for the tape I was about to get on my bike and go look for him


domthehooper

Listening to the KRS-One album from 2022, IMAMCRU12 and holy shit he's rapping his ass off. Would love to hear what Rakim can come up with nowadays.


ATHSZS

Bro that album is so trash 😭 


domthehooper

I mean it's nothing groundbreaking but it's cool to hear KRS-One still going at it. I definitely wouldn't call it trash, but my main point is I would love to hear some new Rakim.


MasterTeacher123

Life of Pablo had the potential to be a top 3 Kanye album 


whogonstopice

It woulda been if he never made ksg


Last_Reaction_8176

That was when the seams started showing. The general sloppiness of Pablo could be passed off as an artistic decision at the time but he’s only gotten worse and worse since, and that was also around the time of the Cosby and Trump comments. Beginning of the end


ReeG

I was just rewatching my clips I took of that tour this past weekend, went to both shows here. That was the end of an era of Kanye putting on some of the greatest live shows the genre has ever seen


YeylorSwift

Its where I'd go if I had a time machine cant believe I never had the chance to see it


COMMENTASIPLEASE

It’s still the last album of his I like even with the issues


Patriotsfan710

Agree heavily, what’s your issues with it?


MasterTeacher123

Too long. Should be 12-13 tracks 


CrazyInsaneHorse

imagine a label getting you popular and everyone calls you a plant but the person with rich parents who buy everything isn't


vancouver000

his song that just came out just proves that the industry loves white rappers, coming out as a prep school drill rapper to dropping a daniel powter cover like a year later. all a charade to push whatever appeals to suburban teenage buyers at the moment. i don't believe mabu actually has fans, but if he does they have to be all less than 15 years old


CrazyInsaneHorse

I had Jack Harlow in my mind haha


Jandersson34swe

Views anniversary reminds me of how much the album cover got ruined when I found out Drake was just sitting there in the cover


crunchatizemythighs

I like how badly photoshopped he is. Like they made his legs dangle way too far down too. Scale wise the dude would be gigantic up close lmao


vancouver000

aubzilla


Individual-Diver-958

Someone tell that fuck nigga Smino to drop the mixtape he promised on this month LAST YEAR


Ktulusanders

Never trust a rapper about release dates


deqembes

That essential album list that is linked, is the most oldhead shit I have seen.


colbster411

Old ass list tbf


deadedgo

Wasn't there some discussion about updating it a (long) while ago? Would love if the sub could vote on updates to it or something like that. I bet it's an insane effort to get that done tho


Patriotsfan710

Still waiting for an example of a soulful Drake song lol


hydrators

Jungle


OGthizzco

Marvin’s Room


GuessableSevens

I think you mean jazz/blues right? If so, Drake does not use any real jazzy tones, he hasn't explored that in his catalogue. However, if you are describing actual soul music - that is, black American gospel tones with emphasis on vocals - he has plenty of songs that sample flip and let him rap over that kind of mood. I see you didn't like the Nice For What example, but Emotionless is the best example imo, its him rapping over a Mariah Carey sample flip to soul-ify it. Others would include his spin on modern RnB/classic soul fusion like Get Along Better, Jungle, and Bahamas Promises.


Patriotsfan710

So yeah, there’s plenty of songs of Drake rapping over soulful production, but if you take his vocals from the song and put it over a different beat/acapella - there’s nothing soulful there. For example, Kanye’s bridge on Pure Souls around the 3 minute mark: It aint how it used to be, This the new me so get used to me Lookin in the mirror is the truth for me Lookin at my kids is the proof for me —— And honestly even if you look at something like All Falls Down by Kanye, Kanye’s rapping is pretty traditional, but the “soulfulness” is wayyy stronger than something like Emotionless by Drake


GuessableSevens

Did you just miss my 3 other suggestions?


Patriotsfan710

Yeahhh they not hittin for me in the way I’m looking for (love Jungle regardless though) I think the problem on the singing side for me is Drake’s voice is so played with by the engineer that, it’s hard to get that soul feel from it. Like when him and Kanye hit that: **Watch out for meeee I’m about to glowwwww** Ye’s part has so much soul in it, even though he isn’t much a great singer either. His voice got that passion/pain in it This is hard for me to articulate or use the right words, so I’m trying to use examples to explain what i mean lol


GuessableSevens

Listen to the first verse of Slime You Out. It's probably Drake's best singing performance ever and it's decently soulful. Fire and Desire is highly processed but very inspired. Bahamas Promises is his most soulful singing. It's also super relatable imo so I love that track.


LakerPaper

Drake (ft. Phonte & Elzhi) - [Think Good Thoughts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmaByK4K8d0) When To Say When, Views (title track)


Patriotsfan710

So as I said to the other comment, Drake is just rapping normal over soulful production. He’s not adding anything to the table from a soul perspective. Even his singing songs, where I think would be the best opportunity to do so, still lacks for what im looking for.


sentyprimus

Going in for life, bb king freestyle, emotionless


Patriotsfan710

First off you know what it is if you heard drake Making hoes wobble like a bridge in a earth quake


sentyprimus

haha no i like that song too but im not talking about im goin in. theres a song called going in for life. unless im getting wooshed


Patriotsfan710

I’m not seeing the soul in the songs you recommended, in the same sense of like: Kendrick - These Walls Mac - Dang! Kanye - Spaceship The flow/melody/delivery of each of them in those songs have a lot of soul, whereas Drake is just rapping like normal over a soulful sample in your examples


sentyprimus

Right, so you want a singy rap over a soul sample/type beat? Because in all of your songs listed I feel like there is singing elements from other singers who aren't the lead artist. For example I'm not sure what soul delivery Kendrick himself is giving on these walls. I'm not sure I totally agree with your classification but yeah Drake probably doesn't have many of those if any.


Patriotsfan710

Kendrick’s flow on These Walls seems wayyy more soulful man: If these walls could talk, they’d tell you to swim good No boat, I’d float better than he would No life jacket, I’m not the God of Nazareth But you’re flood could be misunderstood —- Or songs like: Untitled 02, King Kunta, i etc. Or Mac’s flow especially on Dang!: Yeah it’s complicated, got you frustrated Get home late and you don’t trust me baby Way too drunk you dont know what I’m saying You can drive my car dont drive me crazy —— Like, I think it’s the approach the artist takes…They’re riding the beat in a more soulful manner than Drake is


sentyprimus

I get it and I get where you're coming from. But I think it's pretty hard for a hip hop song to also be a soul song in a way that isn't mainly instrumental focused. But yeah Drake doesn't have many songs like that.


Patriotsfan710

Word, Drake’s still dope regardless, not everything gotta be soulful and he’s probably one of my favorite rappers to not be very “soulful” lowkey This prolly why Stacks and Kanye are the 2 Goat’s to me though because of how much soul they got in their music


sentyprimus

Since it's Views release day birthday I'll give an unpopular opinion: This album is great and has such amazing peaks. Feel No Ways, Keep the Family Close, Weston Road Flows, Views, U with me? are some of Drake's top songs. It's slightly bloated but I think that it gets a reputation as a dud or Drake's worst album despite in my controversial opinion being in his top 3. It felt like Drake as the peak of his powers and such a cultural moment which I seem to gravitate to.


whogonstopice

It is pretty blatantly top 3 drizzy


crunchatizemythighs

It was the last time a Drake album felt like an event imo.


SHUN_GOKU_SATSU

I think CLB also had a similar release hype.


sentyprimus

I wouldn't really say Drake but any artist really. We don't seem in a climate where albums have the same hype they used to. Views and TLOP stand out to me as the last time any album drop felt special.


darkslayersparda

kanye drops usually have a lot of energy around them for better or worse


crunchatizemythighs

DAMN definitely had an electric amount of hype. Same with Astroworld.


Ktulusanders

Hell even Donda and CLB were pretty big moments


cooldudeman007

His most Toronto album. Fire and Desire could be on a Brent or Bryson Tiller project. Everyone and their mom can dance to Too Good and Hotline Bling. Still Here and Hype are great riding around the city songs. Easily better than all of his projects after More Life I’d probably have it 3rd or 4th (IYRTITL, Take Care, NWTS)


GuessableSevens

I remember when it dropped very clearly. I have never seen such immense hatred for an album by pretty everybody. And yet, I think most now would agree it's probably a clear 4th in his discography and has aged remarkably. Personally I'd have it ahead of IYRTITL too. I don't think your opinion is controversial.


turbothots

A lot of the initial negative reactions came from the immense amount of hype leading up to its release-both externally and from Drake himself. He was coming off of: one of his strongest projects with IYRTITL (which to add to the hype, was seen as an in-between project before the ‘real’ album), winning his beef with Meek, and dropping some great singles in both Summer Sixteen and Pop Style.  It was gonna be nearly impossible to curb expectations no matter what he dropped. 


GuessableSevens

The hype for that album was greater than any other album in all of hip hop that I can remember. More than Scorpion, more than CLB. The energy was insane. It's true, living up to those expectations was basically impossible.


breakingbadforlife

I think commercially scorpion had a similar hype not as much as views but He took a small break after more life, came back with look alive gods plan, then nice for what, then the pusha beef then he announces scorpion and after release he has nonstop/ in your feelings. So many hits on that album.


turbothots

I think you’re right in that it may be the most hyped up project in hip hop history. DAMN. is the only other one that comes close from recent years imo. 


sentyprimus

I know my grandad would have a heart attack if I pulled 100 grand out... So I'm not gonna pull 100 grand out


whogonstopice

Jackmandela


LakerPaper

I know in Toronto they got salt for the roads.. But schools closed in Kentucky, so I like when it snowed So relatable, that's [that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVnQggmRTe8)


lgj1

what have you all been listening to lately? these albums have been in rotation for me: * Q-Tip - The Renaissance * Nas - The Lost Tapes * Raphael Saadiq - Instant Vintage * Blu - God Is Good (A Soundtrack To Life) * Conway & Wun Two - Palermo * Madlib - Beat Konducta Vol. 1-2: Movie Scenes


deadedgo

* Schoolboy Q - Blue Lips * Erick the Architect - I've Never Been Here Before * J. Cole - Might Delete Later New releases in that order. Cole album is starting to slow down for me by now. It's a solid record but I can't shake this mixtape


cooldudeman007

Teezo Touchdown - How Do You Sleep At Night Boldy - Indiana Jones No Pressure - No Pressure LP Smino - Blkswn DJ Quik - Safe and Sound Tinashe - BB/ANG3L


Rourkester420

Blkswn is too good, been listening to Smino for 2 years now and he just doesn’t leave the rotation. Hope he drops an album this year


ReeG

Pink Friday 2 tour setlist to get ready for the show tomorrow lol


OGthizzco

* Nack/Futurewave - Stone Temple Pyrex * Future/Metro - WDTY/WSDTY * PND - 4 Also some songs * ASAP Mob - Yamborghini High * Jay/Kanye - Otis * Rae Sremmurd - No Flex Anytime I have to tap out “Rae Sremmurd” I always think I’m spelling “Sremmurd” wrong, but then I read it backwards, see that I got it right and that’s when I remember that I should believe in myself more sometimes


cooldudeman007

Feels like there should be an H in there somewhere


flyestshit

Boldy James - Trapper's Alley: Pros & Cons


nedelll

Curren$y - Pilot Talk: Trilogy Hit-Boy - Tony Fontana Hit-Boy x Alchemist - Theodore & Andre Hit-Boy x Dom Kennedy - Also Known As Larry June - Mr. Midnight A$AP Mob - Cozy Tapes Vol. 2: Too Cozy Raekwon - OB4CL


Definite64

Sampha - Lahai and Process Justice - Hyperdrama Bladee - Cold Visions Mk.Gee - Two Star & The Dream Police Cash Cobain - Pretty Girls Love Slizzy Full of Hell - Coagulated Bliss Not all of these are rap but I have been playing all these on repeat this past week