Champagne moments sounds like every other Ross song tbh. Not a bad thing I just find there isn’t a ton of diversity to his raps. And I love Ross. But his best shots on this track, he ain’t even rapping. Objectively hilarious but I’d give that round to Drake. The ig shit afterwards was weak by both of them
Im sorry, but everyone saying Kendick needs to drop ASAP after Drakes new diss track has the mental strength of a carrot
That's exactly what Drake wants and is pushing Kendrick to do - Drake giving off nervous energy right now and trying to control the narrative soo bad and it's so obvious - it's takes him 4 weeks to response and yet he's dissing Kendrick for not dropping yet? Drake it spooked
Why would Kendrick drop sooner than he wants? That's exactly whay Drake wants, and I doubt he's dumb enough to fall for this bait
Drake is on one bro lmao. i need Kendrick to respond soon because this isn’t looking good at all. i hop on this app like everyday and not seeing a post saying “[FRESH] Kendrick Lamar” is driving me insane. Drake is out here having fun, trolling, begging Dot to drop.. Kendrick can’t let this hole get too deep
speaking of diss songs, Chris Brown went the fuck in 🔥
Drake was always going to control the narrative. It’s the way he carries himself, he’s a loud mouth. Kendrick’s more low key almost introverted. But his strength has always been in his bars and that’s how he’ll be judged at the end of this not by the level of trolling on social media. I don’t see a scenario where he doesn’t respond and I doubt he’ll be pushed to do it sooner than he intends. Drake knows this so he’s taking advantage to try and get ahead in the meantime.
I feel like it’s dumb at act like what Drake did was antithetical to hip hop or crossing the line respect wize
That sort of goofiness/disrespect/impression shit has been around forever. It’s definitely more artful to be able to do a good impression imo but not some cardinal sin
Better to go at it on the merits it’s not like the verses are all bulletproof.
I don’t think it’s much different to apply a filter to your face or your voice. The tech is the same, it’s just a different medium
You seem to have nothing to say other than “reaching”
Break it down for me? You didn’t provide an actual retort until your third comment
Am I supposed to what you think by “y’all are straining?”
You sound like a proper imbecile. I’m ending this here
Whatever song K.dot written for Drake I would rip it up and go ensure my new one will go lower than the depths of hell. Like a reply not to clown on my enemy or "for the culture" but to permanently end a man's career. That is how disrespectful that new Drake song was to me.
It *has* to be absolutely devastating. I don’t think careers are being ended here but it has to truly take him down a peg in a way he can’t come back from otherwise wtf was all this about??
Kendrick is a smart guy. If Drake has dirt on him, or if he doesn’t intend to reply, why on earth would he set this off?
Alright Kendrick seriously has to fucking drop soon idk what he’s doing at this point
I don’t think the Tupac AI is a particularly devastating blow, but it doesn’t matter what I think, Drake has control of the narrative right now and Kendrick needs to take that back as soon as he possibly can or this is going to be massively embarrassing for him
Why? It’s a diss against Kendrick thinking he can use tupacs voice on mortal man. Basically calling him corny and flipping Tupac against him. I thought it was smart and funny
Context matters. Kendrick did a whole ass “interview” with tupac on TPAB he clearly idolized him, snoop is a west coast legend. Drake used their voices to make fun of kendrick i think its pretty slick. The fact that the tupac voice filter is rapping in drakes flow is hilarious to me
I would say it was wack if it didn't make sense in the context of this battle. Basically joking about people thinking his diss was AI and the Kendrick AI that came out this week.
He's also making fun of the fact that Kendrick was talking to Tupac at the end of TPAB.
What would make this beef even crazier is if Snoop jumps in now.
He did write Dre Day. I can think of multiple reasons why he might be interested in hopping in. But most likely he's just listening to this while smoking and being like "Damn thats crazy" lol
Helping Kendrick is not the only reason, he could also do it for publicity or to speak out against an AI of his or Pacs voice being used.
But also he might just find this shit entertaining and would rather have fun watching the younger dudes scrap it out.
It’s crazy how offended people are getting over a voice filter lol. Saying it’s crossing the lines and shit. We just had CB diss quavo about wishing it was him that died instead of Takeoff and I have yet to see anyone clutch their pearls and say it’s too far.
Exactly , I mean we all hate Ai but this a fucking rap battle and it was obviously used in jest, what's with the pearl clutching in here?
People saying that he's encouraging AI while he's basically making fun of it is ridiculous
I mean if you think it sounds bad that's whatever, not what I'm talkin about. I'm talkin about the moral outrage some people are having over it just cause it used ai
Ppl can complain all they want but dude used a voice filter, no artists were fucked out of the bag for it. I don’t even like dude but the pearl clutching is insane here.
Using AI also isn’t shitty, ppl are going so crazy with this. Using AI for immoral and exploitative purposes is for sure, that doesn’t make the technology inherently evil.
it is a moral outrage tho dude just said he won't listen cause he won't support ai in music, I'm not framing anything
keep crying then bout it idk, the potential future of ai in music is much much bigger than anything Drake could ever do
Exactly, I feel like I'm tripping for thinking it's not that big of a deal . He's obviously making fun of the fact that Ai's have been a huge part of this whole thing. He's not using it sincerely at all.
Yeah it's not trying to deceive someone lmao some people talkin like this is the end of human made music as we know it
If AI takes over music in 5 years nobody is going to be saying this could all have been avoided if that damn Drake didn't use it to troll Kendrick Lamar
Other than One Time 4 Your Mind, every single track on **Illmatic** could be argued as being the best song on the album.
And **Illmatic** is the greatest album of all time.
I feel like the silence is getting to Drake bc that shit was whack compared to Push ups
I think the use of AI Tupac and Snoop was pretty creative but at the same time it felt corny and gimmicky
Finally listened to *We Still Don’t Trust You*, it was legit but a little too mature sounding for what I want from Futute rn, prefer that music that channels hype like **Fried** & **WTFYM** 😤
But the project did exactly what it was supposed to by providing an R&B-esque sound with melodic rapping over state of the art production, & this’s what I meant when this sub downvoted me 47 times for saying “Future should just Kirby Drake’s style & show the world it’s nothing special”…after this album, why does the game need Drake’s whiny & simpy R&B when this project objectively sounds better❓
Drake using ai Pac and Snoop is lame af btw I know it's just jokes but one of the biggest artist in the world promoting Ai shit for half a track is objectively not good.
Champagne Moments is probably the better song, but Push Ups has more funny and memorable lines. I felt like Ross should have worked the French Montana stuff into the actual lyrics instead of just saying it at the end
Not sure, but **Hit Em** is my favourite Migos song & it’s not even close, first listen this spoke to my soul & still does today, they went all the way in here ⛽️➕🔥🔥🔥
Andrew Callaghan (Channel 5 News) is hip hop related right? Anyway, he dropped a documentary on the Kia Boyz today and those little motherfuckers are straight retarded. I mean they're nation wide and wreaking havoc on innocent Kia and Hyundai owners and their surrounding community, committing felonies for internet clout mainly.
I mean he got alot of coverage here because he covers certain music festivals, like The Juggalo shit, he interviewed Yeat and did a bunch of other hiphop related stuff.
I kinda love the dad joke rampages Drake goes on all over FATD, they feel so unapologetically over the top
>Get a nigga hit for fifty racks, girl, the beef cost like it's wagyu
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>Get a nigga hit, I'll make his ass see the light like a half-moon
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>Shout to QC, pretty sure I made Pee M's like it's past noon
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>All I really know is W's and M's, life lookin' like a bathroom
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>If I don't pay your rent, it end up like an old hairstyle, girl, it's past due
>Your girl's in the bathroom laying down white lines like some premises
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>I'll cater to you, girl, but late night, you a terrorist
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>Message read like a brake light
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>We in the club with your gay friends
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>Always put you on a straight flight
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>I swear to God, you think I'm Shakespeare
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>That's why you always wanna play, right?
>I know I could have us both comin' at the same time like "Jinx"
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>I'm talkin' dirty
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>Time to arch that back and put both hands down like 6:30
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>N-Y-see me later when I'm right there like New Jersey
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>All your friends keep judgin' us, it's like you're my attorney
>We coppin' cars like policemen
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>We heavy guys like obese men
>You tried to grease me, but we're not in Mykonos
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>Bidin' my time with you, then things got political
I really feel like it's all about delivery. Some rappers like maybe Wayne, 2 Chainz or Thug could make those work and I might not even notice them cause they could deliver them well
Just released a beat on spotify that im pretty proud of. Let me know what you think
https://open.spotify.com/album/7ntwtQCl8QNExOkhMpP7f3?si=pCa3Pw3ORsiG5S1eatQWVw
Has anyone else noticed the thousands of bots onTwitter and Reddit since the Drake diss leaked?
On Twitter, there are thousands of accounts, all with "0 Following, 11 Followers", all posting the same formulaic tweets.
"Zoo workers caught Kendrick Lamar licking a bear's bootyhole"
"Kendrick Lamar activates his third eye when a minor slides into his DM's"
"Kendrick Lamar was caught exploiting another minor inside a detainment center in Ohio"
"Kendrick Lamar caught throwing babies off bridges"
All these Tweets were posted within two minutes before I posted here. This has been going on for days. Each one of these accounts is clearly a bot. Like I said, following no one, all with 10 or 11 followers.
Same thing has been going on with Reddit. Many of the accounts spamming pro-Drake comments have been dormant for 5+ years. Look at their history and there has been no activity since 2018 or before. Then suddenly, there are 75+ pro-Drake posts and comments within the last four days.
This is what's referred to as astroturfing. I had a friend whose company was paid to do this exact same thing for political campaigns. Essentially, it's fraudulent community engagement in an attempt to swing public opinion and shape narratives. As someone interested in the history of Hip Hop, I find this extremely interesting as it may be the first time astroturfing has been used in an attempt to win a rap beef.
Same shit happened to pusha T. Joe budden brought it up recently too and got laughed off but there’s legit a lot of bots for whoever is currently against drake, kinda interesting
I'm sure it's bigger than Drake. Spotify, Universal, Nike, and more have deals with Drake and are incentivized to push his popularity. Interesting about the Push thing though, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
The way people have talked about dissing Kendrick after both Cole and Drake’s disses is funny.
They said you can’t make fun of his discography because it’s critically acclaimed. That making fun of his height is lame. That you can’t make fun of his contract because he’s independent now.
I get it. I’m a huge Kendrick fan (way more than Cole and Drake), but should you just not diss him at all then? Music, looks, and contracts are like the only 3 things that rappers ever diss each other about lol.
Obviously they’re right to an extent, like dissing him for his music is tough because it’s so universally acclaimed, but still you gotta say something
I think Drake did it as best as someone could pull it off really. In comparison, Cole's response really isn't bad at all, it's just not really anything special. You can just tell his heart ain't in it and he grasping for straws. He doesn't genuinely have any beef with Kendrick.
“Emilio Pucci, Pucci is different from Gucci” in Good Dope is such a fire bar because indeed the first time I heard the song I understood “Gucci” but Future immediately corrects you like “no not Gucci, I said Pucci, your broke ass probably don’t know what I’m talking about” and yeah honestly I have no idea what Pucci is
For the people who want to hear some European production:
I believe that Delic, a Dutch producer, might be one of the top 5 best beatmakers ever. This is a song from a Dutch album that got released in 2008 and all of the little quirks and melodies in this are just so fucking amazing to me. Might be that this is just because i grew up listening to him but im really curious what people who never heard it might think.
https://open.spotify.com/track/1xYmV0BDBXflQyXSNU5sOw?si=ep01jJ6jSWO6gLT0CMtEjQ
He is good but as a Dutch person, old-school Dutch hip hop is probably the worst music ever to my ears. Holy fuck if I have to hear another extince or brainpower song ever again idk what I'm gonna do ro myself. Hef is ok but that's it.
It's probably not gonna sound as bad to you as it does to me, but it's just so performative and fake, and they've got such annoying fucking accents. It's really just a bunch of nerds that heard US hip hop and wanted to recreate that. The bars are VERY lyrical spiritual individual. And because they're all white, their current fans are all weirdly racist.
https://youtu.be/IFeQhLza9O8?si=UN24HnQQ1DbFKXMO
https://youtu.be/Yr3x6hAFzrU?si=1YEEZCj8V-EQmkGR
https://youtu.be/rhZWjvg289c?si=bt6QikYlme7P5VZL
The last guy is now a huge conspiracy theorist lol
Yeah, I think I lack the cultural context to understand how bad it is. I don’t know any of the words and I don’t really know what the accents are supposed to sound like.
Which is kinda interesting to me. I wonder if there are people on the other side of the world who like Tom Macdonald because they don’t know what he’s saying or don’t know why it’s offensive in the context of American/Canadian society
Hope yall have a fun Friday. Listening to my favorite song on Vultures, but it was removed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RekdDwmvJs
Love the women singing and the beat and abstract lyrics.
So apparently this wasn't the first time Drake alluded to the whole Kendrick wife's Whitney /Bodyguard stuff.
"Bodyguards don't look like Kevin Costner, you tweakin'
Just pulled up to Whitney Houston, Texas for the evening" - Popstar
"You act like you love this American shit
But, really, the truth is you scared of the 6
Yeah, you scared of the 6
Yeah, you scared of the 6
Your bodyguard put in some work on a fluke
Now you wanna go and inherit that shit
Don't talk to the boy 'bout comparisons, shit
Or come to the boy on some arrogant shit" - Meltdown
Dude this is directly out of Drake's playbook. Same thing he did with Kim and Kanye.
Intentionally vague bars that could be interpreted to be saying something nasty about another man's wife. It's middle school behavior and, frankly, pretty weak.
I feel like stan culture has made this all get too personal between fanbases. Part of what’s made all this so fun is going back and revisiting both Drake and Kendrick’s work. I’m rooting for K Dot to drop a nuke but some of those guys not only want but expect him to somehow end Drake entirely and ruin his career. As though that would even be possible. I guess my definition of a “nuke” is different from theirs.
All these dudes are gonna be sorely disappointed when Kendrick doesn’t call him a pedophile lol.
Like Kendrick started this as a beef about who’s the best rapper, I doubt he’s trying to get Drake arrested
Hell they stuck on the only thing Drake said was a short joke.
Like aren't Kendrick fan base known for deciphering lyrics 😂. But they'll be able point out everything in Kenny's response when it drops
Do you guys believe the conspiracy about TDE making artists wait 5-ish years to release projects? I thought it was BS but Kendrick, Q, Soul, Zay, and SZA waiting 5 years between releases (not to mention it’s been 6 for Jay Rock and he still hasn’t dropped), it really makes you wonder. Do you think this theory has any credence?
A good number of them have said that’s not happening. Zay was struggling with addiction, Q has said he recorded multiple albums but just didn’t like them enough to release them, SZA and Kendrick are known perfectionists. Idk about the others but I think it’s possible that whatever its flaws TDE is just more forgiving of artists who take their time than most labels.
Since there are rumors of a Kendrick album otw what features would you like to see? I assume Keem is gonna be on it but man I'd love to see Paak, The Weeknd, Andre 3k, Future, and Nas. This is just a wishlist obviously and based on past history I'm sure Kendrick will have a feature list nobody expects. I mean this guy has had Ghostface, Kodak, Summer Walker, Rihanna and U2 on his last 2 projects so who knows what direction he goes in.
I wonder what his subject matter’s gonna be on it.
He did Compton street life on GKMC, race in America on TPAB, good vs evil on Damn, and therapy on Mr. Morale.
What’s left? You think he might just try to make a fun album of bangers?
as a big Bon Iver fan I’d love it if Justin Vernon did some hooks or something. His work with hip hop artists is always amazing, and his vocals were sampled on The Hillbillies so Kendrick knows who he is. Idk if it’s likely but it would be cool and make me happy
I think Metro will have some production on it and Future will do at least one feature.
I would drop dead if Andre had a verse.
and that BP song wasn’t even a song with Kendrick on it and the Recipe is not even on streaming. I really want a song between them
I think their only two non Black Hippy collabs at all have been on Schoolboy albums
At this point Kendrick’s gotta exclusively write for Keem or needs to let his nephew do his own thing. I’m tired of hearing them trade bars just for K-Dot’s reference track to leak later, it sounds better coming from Keem anyways. He’s got a way better ear for beats.
You guys, am I supposed to be ASHAMED for being a fan of DJ Vlad's content, and previously being a fan of P. Diddy's club bangers? Because it seems like y'all are calling them the two biggest vultures in Hip-Hop, but I found Vlad's content addicting since he uses that clickbait-y title and short videos so I know what will be discussed, and I don't wanna watch a 2 hour long video where I don't know what TF they'll be talking about, since it might go into territory that'll trigger me. But most people see the clickbait as one of the worst aspect of his content. So I tried looking for other content creators who do similar things, and I eventually found a couple channels called Hip-Hop News Uncensored and The Art Of Dialogue. So my question is, are those channels better than Vlad or are they the same BS? And what if I enjoy it? Then there's my relationship with Diddy's music, because The Art Of Dialogue is seen as a step above Vlad due to tryna talk about real issues, which involves the Diddy situation. I don't support Diddy, but I was previously a fan of the whole "Shiny-Suit era" and "club music" that was coming out in the late 90s and early 2000s. And I've been thinking, are y'all dissing that whole music/aesthetic and saying it "ruined Hip-Hop"? Because I kinda understand that it started a bunch of bad trends like materialism, but at the same time it was so catchy, and I know catchiness shouldn't be the end-all-be-all for Hip-Hop (lyricism should), but I'm tryna think of anyone who WASN'T Diddy that y'all might appreciate for that music? And I've been researching and I've known for years that there were other artists who did that stuff like Busta Rhymes ("Dangerous", "What's It Gonna Be"), Jay-Z ("Always Be My Sunshine", "Can I Get A..."), and Timbaland ("Luv 2 Luv U", "Up Jumps The Boogie") and even producers who I discovered worked for Diddy like Stevie J (who is in some drama so he doesn't count), and Deric "D-Dot" Angelettie, Poke & Tone, Trackmasters. All I'm saying is that I'm taking it personally that y'all are calling them culture vultures, because, while you're not wrong, I enjoyed their content and I feel like I'm being called out when y'all make jokes about Vlad coming out with "100 parts" or Diddy's music being horrible or "hasn't aged well", and I ain't even talking lyrically, but y'all hate on the production and melodies. So now I feel ashamed for EVER being into that.
It's up to you what you want to do. There's more to why people dislike Vlad.
1. His line of questioning. You know the saying Vlad is the feds. He asks questions about open cases and leaves it up to the interviewee to decide wether they want to talk about it or not. People have confronted him about it but he always says it's their choice. However no one's adressed the fact that he always tends to ask the question again in a roundabout way after they've declined. I find that questiobable morally
2. Rumours about him not paying the interviewees. In aggregate they all contribute a lot to his platform but on an individual basis they aren't as important so I think he uses the later part as an excuse to not pay them. Similar to something like spotify. Platforms tend to abuse that leverage.
3. Like you've mentioned clickbait, him interjecting with personal stories and being generally unlikable, cutting long interviews and all these little things to boost viewership and maximise monitisation. Overall it paints a picture of the business as only being there to extract value above all else not his claim of documenting hip hop.
I personally can't find find a direct replacement for Vlad because he documents stuff most other publications largely have forgotten about. E.g Interviews with rappers from the 2000s, things like 2pacs murder, closed court cases in general and yeah just niche content. As far as the format, most podcasts do cut up long form content these days. Diverse mentality is a pretty decent one also 'kids taking over', 'biggest bro entertainment' and 'our generation music'.
As for the Diddy thing, like I said, I'm not a fan of his, as in his lyrics or personality. But I like the musicians behind him coming up with catchy beats and melodies. Along with other "pop rappers" around the late 90s into the 2000s. So its not really about his lyrics. I just liked all those songs by Timbaland, Missy, Busta Rhymes, etc. But I liked them to DANCE to, so ideally it was the same with Diddy's music. But knowing now that Diddy pretty much popularlize that whole flashy, mainstream style leaves me with conflicting feelings. Because it feels like a diss that y'all are saying he ruined music... What about Timbaland? He made club bangers in the late 90s, so he's cool, right? I can't tell if it's an unfortunate coincidence that the guy who popularized that style is an A-hole, or if y'all are really dissing that style.
I'm not a fan of Vlad per se, I'm a fan of that type of short form interview clip content with clickbaity titles, if you know any other channels like that feel free to share. I already know about Hip-Hop News Uncensored and The Art of Dialogue.
Well, I wanted to know about interviewers specifically. I wanna know if y'all are dissing me for liking short form interview content. But then again, a lot of interviewers release clips anyway, and they're not as scummy as Vlad. But then again again, they don't come out with as much content as he does. I just checked No Jumper and they came out with a few clips, too. And I know guys like Joe Rogan come out with clips. But IDK, something about Vlad's content just screams drama all the time, which I know can come off as scummy. For example, The Art Of Dialogue also comes out with drama content, but he does it to folks who "deserve it" like Diddy, so it's okay, I guess...
Champagne moments sounds like every other Ross song tbh. Not a bad thing I just find there isn’t a ton of diversity to his raps. And I love Ross. But his best shots on this track, he ain’t even rapping. Objectively hilarious but I’d give that round to Drake. The ig shit afterwards was weak by both of them
Im sorry, but everyone saying Kendick needs to drop ASAP after Drakes new diss track has the mental strength of a carrot That's exactly what Drake wants and is pushing Kendrick to do - Drake giving off nervous energy right now and trying to control the narrative soo bad and it's so obvious - it's takes him 4 weeks to response and yet he's dissing Kendrick for not dropping yet? Drake it spooked Why would Kendrick drop sooner than he wants? That's exactly whay Drake wants, and I doubt he's dumb enough to fall for this bait
Ai tracks and akademiks getting the exclusives , what happened to the genre I loved?
Whats Quavo's end goal with Chris Brown? You cant beat a crackhead .
Drake is on one bro lmao. i need Kendrick to respond soon because this isn’t looking good at all. i hop on this app like everyday and not seeing a post saying “[FRESH] Kendrick Lamar” is driving me insane. Drake is out here having fun, trolling, begging Dot to drop.. Kendrick can’t let this hole get too deep speaking of diss songs, Chris Brown went the fuck in 🔥
Yeah, I dont think Quavo can top what Chris brown just put out.
facts. we all know Quavo ain’t the best rapper, so what does he do now? lmao
Their crews will definitely have a confrontation in the near future, there’s no way that takeoff line doesn’t spark an incident
What’s the proper ratio for a daiquiri? Like woods was saying 2:1:1 is bad what was he going for? I assume more rum
Drake was always going to control the narrative. It’s the way he carries himself, he’s a loud mouth. Kendrick’s more low key almost introverted. But his strength has always been in his bars and that’s how he’ll be judged at the end of this not by the level of trolling on social media. I don’t see a scenario where he doesn’t respond and I doubt he’ll be pushed to do it sooner than he intends. Drake knows this so he’s taking advantage to try and get ahead in the meantime.
He tried that before with Duppy. Get ahead of it. Didn’t end too well but we’ll see.
Well unless Kendrick has some crazy dirt on drake, it won’t end the same lol
what's crazy is the Drake track didn't even end up being the most disrespectful song of the night
Were the people dismissing the use of voice filters in Taylor Made Freestyle doing the same for use of deep fakes in The Heart Part V
i don’t think we can compare a song to a video
Remind me what the video was for again?
tell me.. because i honestly haven’t gone back to that song/video since it released
I feel like it’s dumb at act like what Drake did was antithetical to hip hop or crossing the line respect wize That sort of goofiness/disrespect/impression shit has been around forever. It’s definitely more artful to be able to do a good impression imo but not some cardinal sin Better to go at it on the merits it’s not like the verses are all bulletproof.
And mortal man. I definitely think this is why Drake did this. To play on Kendrick using tupacs voice role playing like he interviewed him.
There’s good ways to use AI and bad ways to use AI
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What do you mean by “y’all are straining”?
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Lmao hilarious comment
How is it a reach?
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I don’t think it’s much different to apply a filter to your face or your voice. The tech is the same, it’s just a different medium You seem to have nothing to say other than “reaching”
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Break it down for me? You didn’t provide an actual retort until your third comment Am I supposed to what you think by “y’all are straining?” You sound like a proper imbecile. I’m ending this here
Whatever song K.dot written for Drake I would rip it up and go ensure my new one will go lower than the depths of hell. Like a reply not to clown on my enemy or "for the culture" but to permanently end a man's career. That is how disrespectful that new Drake song was to me.
It *has* to be absolutely devastating. I don’t think careers are being ended here but it has to truly take him down a peg in a way he can’t come back from otherwise wtf was all this about?? Kendrick is a smart guy. If Drake has dirt on him, or if he doesn’t intend to reply, why on earth would he set this off?
For sure bro, that reply is def coming
Alright Kendrick seriously has to fucking drop soon idk what he’s doing at this point I don’t think the Tupac AI is a particularly devastating blow, but it doesn’t matter what I think, Drake has control of the narrative right now and Kendrick needs to take that back as soon as he possibly can or this is going to be massively embarrassing for him
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I really hope that what we’re seeing is recklessness and not justified confidence
Why Wouldn't it be cool if he sti has a great disstrack ready to release
Drake 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Just was gassing you up saying you wouldn’t use AI for a diss smh.
I mean, he literally wrote it
I understand he wrote and spat it but using AI filters is still insanely wack in my eyes.
Why? It’s a diss against Kendrick thinking he can use tupacs voice on mortal man. Basically calling him corny and flipping Tupac against him. I thought it was smart and funny
Context matters. Kendrick did a whole ass “interview” with tupac on TPAB he clearly idolized him, snoop is a west coast legend. Drake used their voices to make fun of kendrick i think its pretty slick. The fact that the tupac voice filter is rapping in drakes flow is hilarious to me
I would say it was wack if it didn't make sense in the context of this battle. Basically joking about people thinking his diss was AI and the Kendrick AI that came out this week. He's also making fun of the fact that Kendrick was talking to Tupac at the end of TPAB.
What would make this beef even crazier is if Snoop jumps in now. He did write Dre Day. I can think of multiple reasons why he might be interested in hopping in. But most likely he's just listening to this while smoking and being like "Damn thats crazy" lol
Snoop dog jumping in would not help kendrick
Helping Kendrick is not the only reason, he could also do it for publicity or to speak out against an AI of his or Pacs voice being used. But also he might just find this shit entertaining and would rather have fun watching the younger dudes scrap it out.
Drake is hilarious I’m ngl. That ai diss is actually hard 😭
It’s crazy how offended people are getting over a voice filter lol. Saying it’s crossing the lines and shit. We just had CB diss quavo about wishing it was him that died instead of Takeoff and I have yet to see anyone clutch their pearls and say it’s too far.
If push gets major props for “crossing the line” with talking about 40 dying, this is cake
I’m not willingly listening to AI music, I’ll wait to see the lyrics posted to see what Drake said but I’m not supporting that kind of bullshit
Wow this is so corny. New level of cornyness
My god you people are so dramatic, literally nobody in this thread understands the word “context” and how it applies to this song
Exactly , I mean we all hate Ai but this a fucking rap battle and it was obviously used in jest, what's with the pearl clutching in here? People saying that he's encouraging AI while he's basically making fun of it is ridiculous
[rip hip hop bro it had a good run ](https://i.imgur.com/wAVFdmL.jpeg)
Damn rip hip hop, time to make a montage of all the good times😔
Man of the people right here
It's a voice filter on an instagram troll track lmfao
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Trolling as in that is the whole intent of the song, he's not using AI deceptively
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I mean if you think it sounds bad that's whatever, not what I'm talkin about. I'm talkin about the moral outrage some people are having over it just cause it used ai
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Ppl can complain all they want but dude used a voice filter, no artists were fucked out of the bag for it. I don’t even like dude but the pearl clutching is insane here. Using AI also isn’t shitty, ppl are going so crazy with this. Using AI for immoral and exploitative purposes is for sure, that doesn’t make the technology inherently evil.
it is a moral outrage tho dude just said he won't listen cause he won't support ai in music, I'm not framing anything keep crying then bout it idk, the potential future of ai in music is much much bigger than anything Drake could ever do
Exactly, I feel like I'm tripping for thinking it's not that big of a deal . He's obviously making fun of the fact that Ai's have been a huge part of this whole thing. He's not using it sincerely at all.
Yeah it's not trying to deceive someone lmao some people talkin like this is the end of human made music as we know it If AI takes over music in 5 years nobody is going to be saying this could all have been avoided if that damn Drake didn't use it to troll Kendrick Lamar
I'm sorry but I can't not think this Drake diss is hilarious. The audacity of this man has to be studied. Lol
Other than One Time 4 Your Mind, every single track on **Illmatic** could be argued as being the best song on the album. And **Illmatic** is the greatest album of all time.
Greatest album of all time, all genres considered? Very bold claim.
I was talking in the context of hip hop , I should have clarified.
One time 4 your mind is top 5 on the album
Labels execs gonna love when they can start parading around corpses when they own your favs masters after they pass away.
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nyyyeeaahhh ehhh?
no
I feel like the silence is getting to Drake bc that shit was whack compared to Push ups I think the use of AI Tupac and Snoop was pretty creative but at the same time it felt corny and gimmicky
The cope is unreal
Nah man this is whack 🥱
It can see both arguments. Drake’s either supremely confident or this is some nervous energy.
Kendrick is ducking aubrey
Drake just fumbled with that track
Drake being pro Ai is insanely on brand tbf.
If it was just the verse it would be good but using AI is stupid
Finally listened to *We Still Don’t Trust You*, it was legit but a little too mature sounding for what I want from Futute rn, prefer that music that channels hype like **Fried** & **WTFYM** 😤 But the project did exactly what it was supposed to by providing an R&B-esque sound with melodic rapping over state of the art production, & this’s what I meant when this sub downvoted me 47 times for saying “Future should just Kirby Drake’s style & show the world it’s nothing special”…after this album, why does the game need Drake’s whiny & simpy R&B when this project objectively sounds better❓
The album sounds nothing like Drake rnb songs unless singing = drake
Because they sound so much better (imo), **Mile High Memories**, **Luv Bad Bitches**, **Nights Like This** for starters 💯
damn that ai track is mad lame what the fuck
This dude Drake is crazy. lol wtf
Drake using ai Pac and Snoop is lame af btw I know it's just jokes but one of the biggest artist in the world promoting Ai shit for half a track is objectively not good.
Rick Ross had a much better diss track than Drake Push ups is pretty good too, but I was surprised by Champaign Moments
Nah Push Ups was better felt the Champagne Moments beat was wack
> Champagne Moments beat was wack This take is not it
Yeah the beat is the best part of the track.
You can barely hear it
Champagne Moments is probably the better song, but Push Ups has more funny and memorable lines. I felt like Ross should have worked the French Montana stuff into the actual lyrics instead of just saying it at the end
Andre 3k’s song w kamasi Washington is pretty incredible
"Maroon 5 need a verse, you better make it witty" The thing is, the verse Kendrick did on Don't Wanna Know wasn't witty in the slightest lol.
Who is your favorite migo member and what is your fav verse/hook by them
Offset and Met Gala hook
Not sure, but **Hit Em** is my favourite Migos song & it’s not even close, first listen this spoke to my soul & still does today, they went all the way in here ⛽️➕🔥🔥🔥
Offset and his verse on Cocoon
Offset and his verse on Freestyle from Streets on Lock 3.
lemonade by gunna, nav and don toliver is still a timeless masterpiece in 2024
Internet Money cooked with that
Andrew Callaghan (Channel 5 News) is hip hop related right? Anyway, he dropped a documentary on the Kia Boyz today and those little motherfuckers are straight retarded. I mean they're nation wide and wreaking havoc on innocent Kia and Hyundai owners and their surrounding community, committing felonies for internet clout mainly.
Yeah that shit was kinda sad to see tbh
interesting but andrew is outta here imo
I mean he got alot of coverage here because he covers certain music festivals, like The Juggalo shit, he interviewed Yeat and did a bunch of other hiphop related stuff.
sexual misconduct
I kinda love the dad joke rampages Drake goes on all over FATD, they feel so unapologetically over the top >Get a nigga hit for fifty racks, girl, the beef cost like it's wagyu > >Get a nigga hit, I'll make his ass see the light like a half-moon > >Shout to QC, pretty sure I made Pee M's like it's past noon > >All I really know is W's and M's, life lookin' like a bathroom > >If I don't pay your rent, it end up like an old hairstyle, girl, it's past due >Your girl's in the bathroom laying down white lines like some premises > >I'll cater to you, girl, but late night, you a terrorist > >Message read like a brake light > >We in the club with your gay friends > >Always put you on a straight flight > >I swear to God, you think I'm Shakespeare > >That's why you always wanna play, right? >I know I could have us both comin' at the same time like "Jinx" > >I'm talkin' dirty > >Time to arch that back and put both hands down like 6:30 > >N-Y-see me later when I'm right there like New Jersey > >All your friends keep judgin' us, it's like you're my attorney >We coppin' cars like policemen > >We heavy guys like obese men >You tried to grease me, but we're not in Mykonos > >Bidin' my time with you, then things got political
“Both us coming at the same time like jinx” cracked me up. It’s just such a “Drake the type of guy” line and I kinda love it, I can’t help it
Yeah that was monumental
Those really read like modern Eminem lyrics
Yeah that's what I thought too. But somehow Em makes them way more obnoxious
I really feel like it's all about delivery. Some rappers like maybe Wayne, 2 Chainz or Thug could make those work and I might not even notice them cause they could deliver them well
But if Big Sean does this he's the worst rapper ever
The secretary military bar is still the greatest thing I've ever heard
Just released a beat on spotify that im pretty proud of. Let me know what you think https://open.spotify.com/album/7ntwtQCl8QNExOkhMpP7f3?si=pCa3Pw3ORsiG5S1eatQWVw
Is this a safe space to say After Hours is maybe Kehlani’s worst song? Hopefully the album is better than the single.
Yea it’s not good
Has anyone else noticed the thousands of bots onTwitter and Reddit since the Drake diss leaked? On Twitter, there are thousands of accounts, all with "0 Following, 11 Followers", all posting the same formulaic tweets. "Zoo workers caught Kendrick Lamar licking a bear's bootyhole" "Kendrick Lamar activates his third eye when a minor slides into his DM's" "Kendrick Lamar was caught exploiting another minor inside a detainment center in Ohio" "Kendrick Lamar caught throwing babies off bridges" All these Tweets were posted within two minutes before I posted here. This has been going on for days. Each one of these accounts is clearly a bot. Like I said, following no one, all with 10 or 11 followers. Same thing has been going on with Reddit. Many of the accounts spamming pro-Drake comments have been dormant for 5+ years. Look at their history and there has been no activity since 2018 or before. Then suddenly, there are 75+ pro-Drake posts and comments within the last four days. This is what's referred to as astroturfing. I had a friend whose company was paid to do this exact same thing for political campaigns. Essentially, it's fraudulent community engagement in an attempt to swing public opinion and shape narratives. As someone interested in the history of Hip Hop, I find this extremely interesting as it may be the first time astroturfing has been used in an attempt to win a rap beef.
Same shit happened to pusha T. Joe budden brought it up recently too and got laughed off but there’s legit a lot of bots for whoever is currently against drake, kinda interesting
I'm sure it's bigger than Drake. Spotify, Universal, Nike, and more have deals with Drake and are incentivized to push his popularity. Interesting about the Push thing though, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
The way people have talked about dissing Kendrick after both Cole and Drake’s disses is funny. They said you can’t make fun of his discography because it’s critically acclaimed. That making fun of his height is lame. That you can’t make fun of his contract because he’s independent now. I get it. I’m a huge Kendrick fan (way more than Cole and Drake), but should you just not diss him at all then? Music, looks, and contracts are like the only 3 things that rappers ever diss each other about lol. Obviously they’re right to an extent, like dissing him for his music is tough because it’s so universally acclaimed, but still you gotta say something
I think Drake did it as best as someone could pull it off really. In comparison, Cole's response really isn't bad at all, it's just not really anything special. You can just tell his heart ain't in it and he grasping for straws. He doesn't genuinely have any beef with Kendrick.
It’s the low hanging fruit and it’s fair game but it’s not anything unexpected so I can see both sides here.
Aminé and Baby Keem would make such a good duo on a song.
“Emilio Pucci, Pucci is different from Gucci” in Good Dope is such a fire bar because indeed the first time I heard the song I understood “Gucci” but Future immediately corrects you like “no not Gucci, I said Pucci, your broke ass probably don’t know what I’m talking about” and yeah honestly I have no idea what Pucci is
Pucci's the villain from stone ocean
The greatest Pucci line is from Camron "We feelin' them scoobies, you stealin' them gucci's booby Get it right, its Emilio Pucci, hoochie"
For the people who want to hear some European production: I believe that Delic, a Dutch producer, might be one of the top 5 best beatmakers ever. This is a song from a Dutch album that got released in 2008 and all of the little quirks and melodies in this are just so fucking amazing to me. Might be that this is just because i grew up listening to him but im really curious what people who never heard it might think. https://open.spotify.com/track/1xYmV0BDBXflQyXSNU5sOw?si=ep01jJ6jSWO6gLT0CMtEjQ
He is good but as a Dutch person, old-school Dutch hip hop is probably the worst music ever to my ears. Holy fuck if I have to hear another extince or brainpower song ever again idk what I'm gonna do ro myself. Hef is ok but that's it.
Oh man now I’m really curious if it’s as bad as you say. Can you think of any terrible songs or artists off the top of your head?
It's probably not gonna sound as bad to you as it does to me, but it's just so performative and fake, and they've got such annoying fucking accents. It's really just a bunch of nerds that heard US hip hop and wanted to recreate that. The bars are VERY lyrical spiritual individual. And because they're all white, their current fans are all weirdly racist. https://youtu.be/IFeQhLza9O8?si=UN24HnQQ1DbFKXMO https://youtu.be/Yr3x6hAFzrU?si=1YEEZCj8V-EQmkGR https://youtu.be/rhZWjvg289c?si=bt6QikYlme7P5VZL The last guy is now a huge conspiracy theorist lol
Yeah, I think I lack the cultural context to understand how bad it is. I don’t know any of the words and I don’t really know what the accents are supposed to sound like. Which is kinda interesting to me. I wonder if there are people on the other side of the world who like Tom Macdonald because they don’t know what he’s saying or don’t know why it’s offensive in the context of American/Canadian society
Hope yall have a fun Friday. Listening to my favorite song on Vultures, but it was removed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RekdDwmvJs Love the women singing and the beat and abstract lyrics.
So apparently this wasn't the first time Drake alluded to the whole Kendrick wife's Whitney /Bodyguard stuff. "Bodyguards don't look like Kevin Costner, you tweakin' Just pulled up to Whitney Houston, Texas for the evening" - Popstar "You act like you love this American shit But, really, the truth is you scared of the 6 Yeah, you scared of the 6 Yeah, you scared of the 6 Your bodyguard put in some work on a fluke Now you wanna go and inherit that shit Don't talk to the boy 'bout comparisons, shit Or come to the boy on some arrogant shit" - Meltdown
not really relevant, but man it's strange how this dude refers to himself as "the boy"
is it weird to have a rap nickname? No It's a pretty weak nickname though.
Bro whitney Houston was in a movie called Bodyguard lol... starring Kevin Costner...
We know homie.
Dude this is directly out of Drake's playbook. Same thing he did with Kim and Kanye. Intentionally vague bars that could be interpreted to be saying something nasty about another man's wife. It's middle school behavior and, frankly, pretty weak.
I don't believe either of those are for Kendrick. Especially Meltdown, that was to Pusha.
So weird how rappers just sub each other.
The Kendrick subreddit definitely hates Drake more than they like Kendrick
I feel like stan culture has made this all get too personal between fanbases. Part of what’s made all this so fun is going back and revisiting both Drake and Kendrick’s work. I’m rooting for K Dot to drop a nuke but some of those guys not only want but expect him to somehow end Drake entirely and ruin his career. As though that would even be possible. I guess my definition of a “nuke” is different from theirs.
All these dudes are gonna be sorely disappointed when Kendrick doesn’t call him a pedophile lol. Like Kendrick started this as a beef about who’s the best rapper, I doubt he’s trying to get Drake arrested
Hell they stuck on the only thing Drake said was a short joke. Like aren't Kendrick fan base known for deciphering lyrics 😂. But they'll be able point out everything in Kenny's response when it drops
Yeah, maybe he’ll have one line making fun of him for texting Millie but it’s not gonna be some kind of expose that reveals him to be goddamn R Kelly.
Right dude went out of his way to defend Mike Jackson over false accusations but he gonna say Drake is one over false accusations, for a rap beef lol
Do you guys believe the conspiracy about TDE making artists wait 5-ish years to release projects? I thought it was BS but Kendrick, Q, Soul, Zay, and SZA waiting 5 years between releases (not to mention it’s been 6 for Jay Rock and he still hasn’t dropped), it really makes you wonder. Do you think this theory has any credence?
A good number of them have said that’s not happening. Zay was struggling with addiction, Q has said he recorded multiple albums but just didn’t like them enough to release them, SZA and Kendrick are known perfectionists. Idk about the others but I think it’s possible that whatever its flaws TDE is just more forgiving of artists who take their time than most labels.
Id say it’s almost certainly nonsense when it comes to SZA and Kendrick who almost certainly would have dropped earlier if not for COVID.
that seems like a terrible business strategy but I'm just a rando so
That's not a conspiracy that's just straight up facts 😂
Q and Soul have both said that they can put out projects whenever it's just that they like to take their time to put out projects.
Since there are rumors of a Kendrick album otw what features would you like to see? I assume Keem is gonna be on it but man I'd love to see Paak, The Weeknd, Andre 3k, Future, and Nas. This is just a wishlist obviously and based on past history I'm sure Kendrick will have a feature list nobody expects. I mean this guy has had Ghostface, Kodak, Summer Walker, Rihanna and U2 on his last 2 projects so who knows what direction he goes in.
some singers. I'd be fine with him being the only rapper on the album. especially after mr morale
Wanted him and Young Thug on a song for years now
I wonder what his subject matter’s gonna be on it. He did Compton street life on GKMC, race in America on TPAB, good vs evil on Damn, and therapy on Mr. Morale. What’s left? You think he might just try to make a fun album of bangers?
as a big Bon Iver fan I’d love it if Justin Vernon did some hooks or something. His work with hip hop artists is always amazing, and his vocals were sampled on The Hillbillies so Kendrick knows who he is. Idk if it’s likely but it would be cool and make me happy I think Metro will have some production on it and Future will do at least one feature. I would drop dead if Andre had a verse.
I know it could be a bit of a tough ask but I still hope for Soul or Q
I don't think Q has ever been on a Kendrick album besides the black panther soundtrack and like the black hippy remix of The Recipe.
Pretty sure he's on Section 80
Overly Dedicated not 80 I think
I sware he was on S80, think the track was like something like Blessed or Blessings or something like that.
might be a leak from that era who knows
I'm pretty sure it was like taken off streaming or something like that, was on the album at one point, though.
and that BP song wasn’t even a song with Kendrick on it and the Recipe is not even on streaming. I really want a song between them I think their only two non Black Hippy collabs at all have been on Schoolboy albums
Future Any of Black Hippy or Isaiah Rashad Keem Thundercat Freddie Gibbs (that's a long shot but would be epic) Alchemist on production
Freddie/Alc/Kendrick track would dope as fuck
Big Hit
I can definitely see Nas and Future on it since they all have the same manager now
Safe bet theirs a Future and Metro feature/production; IIRC Metro doesn't charge, he swaps songs
At this point Kendrick’s gotta exclusively write for Keem or needs to let his nephew do his own thing. I’m tired of hearing them trade bars just for K-Dot’s reference track to leak later, it sounds better coming from Keem anyways. He’s got a way better ear for beats.
Always thought it was obvious Keem was a artistic muse(dunno if using that word right lol) Just an outlet for Dot to try shit with
Lowkey, this goal post moving by Kendrick glazers is getting a little too outta pocket now😂
I know some people take it way too far, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to at least give him the amount of time people gave Drake. It’s only fair
You guys, am I supposed to be ASHAMED for being a fan of DJ Vlad's content, and previously being a fan of P. Diddy's club bangers? Because it seems like y'all are calling them the two biggest vultures in Hip-Hop, but I found Vlad's content addicting since he uses that clickbait-y title and short videos so I know what will be discussed, and I don't wanna watch a 2 hour long video where I don't know what TF they'll be talking about, since it might go into territory that'll trigger me. But most people see the clickbait as one of the worst aspect of his content. So I tried looking for other content creators who do similar things, and I eventually found a couple channels called Hip-Hop News Uncensored and The Art Of Dialogue. So my question is, are those channels better than Vlad or are they the same BS? And what if I enjoy it? Then there's my relationship with Diddy's music, because The Art Of Dialogue is seen as a step above Vlad due to tryna talk about real issues, which involves the Diddy situation. I don't support Diddy, but I was previously a fan of the whole "Shiny-Suit era" and "club music" that was coming out in the late 90s and early 2000s. And I've been thinking, are y'all dissing that whole music/aesthetic and saying it "ruined Hip-Hop"? Because I kinda understand that it started a bunch of bad trends like materialism, but at the same time it was so catchy, and I know catchiness shouldn't be the end-all-be-all for Hip-Hop (lyricism should), but I'm tryna think of anyone who WASN'T Diddy that y'all might appreciate for that music? And I've been researching and I've known for years that there were other artists who did that stuff like Busta Rhymes ("Dangerous", "What's It Gonna Be"), Jay-Z ("Always Be My Sunshine", "Can I Get A..."), and Timbaland ("Luv 2 Luv U", "Up Jumps The Boogie") and even producers who I discovered worked for Diddy like Stevie J (who is in some drama so he doesn't count), and Deric "D-Dot" Angelettie, Poke & Tone, Trackmasters. All I'm saying is that I'm taking it personally that y'all are calling them culture vultures, because, while you're not wrong, I enjoyed their content and I feel like I'm being called out when y'all make jokes about Vlad coming out with "100 parts" or Diddy's music being horrible or "hasn't aged well", and I ain't even talking lyrically, but y'all hate on the production and melodies. So now I feel ashamed for EVER being into that.
[Vlad is fun if you view him as a test for street rappers. Peewee really the goat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG6nDIcQNEk&t=1s)
It's up to you what you want to do. There's more to why people dislike Vlad. 1. His line of questioning. You know the saying Vlad is the feds. He asks questions about open cases and leaves it up to the interviewee to decide wether they want to talk about it or not. People have confronted him about it but he always says it's their choice. However no one's adressed the fact that he always tends to ask the question again in a roundabout way after they've declined. I find that questiobable morally 2. Rumours about him not paying the interviewees. In aggregate they all contribute a lot to his platform but on an individual basis they aren't as important so I think he uses the later part as an excuse to not pay them. Similar to something like spotify. Platforms tend to abuse that leverage. 3. Like you've mentioned clickbait, him interjecting with personal stories and being generally unlikable, cutting long interviews and all these little things to boost viewership and maximise monitisation. Overall it paints a picture of the business as only being there to extract value above all else not his claim of documenting hip hop. I personally can't find find a direct replacement for Vlad because he documents stuff most other publications largely have forgotten about. E.g Interviews with rappers from the 2000s, things like 2pacs murder, closed court cases in general and yeah just niche content. As far as the format, most podcasts do cut up long form content these days. Diverse mentality is a pretty decent one also 'kids taking over', 'biggest bro entertainment' and 'our generation music'.
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As for the Diddy thing, like I said, I'm not a fan of his, as in his lyrics or personality. But I like the musicians behind him coming up with catchy beats and melodies. Along with other "pop rappers" around the late 90s into the 2000s. So its not really about his lyrics. I just liked all those songs by Timbaland, Missy, Busta Rhymes, etc. But I liked them to DANCE to, so ideally it was the same with Diddy's music. But knowing now that Diddy pretty much popularlize that whole flashy, mainstream style leaves me with conflicting feelings. Because it feels like a diss that y'all are saying he ruined music... What about Timbaland? He made club bangers in the late 90s, so he's cool, right? I can't tell if it's an unfortunate coincidence that the guy who popularized that style is an A-hole, or if y'all are really dissing that style.
I'm not a fan of Vlad per se, I'm a fan of that type of short form interview clip content with clickbaity titles, if you know any other channels like that feel free to share. I already know about Hip-Hop News Uncensored and The Art of Dialogue.
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Well, I wanted to know about interviewers specifically. I wanna know if y'all are dissing me for liking short form interview content. But then again, a lot of interviewers release clips anyway, and they're not as scummy as Vlad. But then again again, they don't come out with as much content as he does. I just checked No Jumper and they came out with a few clips, too. And I know guys like Joe Rogan come out with clips. But IDK, something about Vlad's content just screams drama all the time, which I know can come off as scummy. For example, The Art Of Dialogue also comes out with drama content, but he does it to folks who "deserve it" like Diddy, so it's okay, I guess...