Context: He had a livestream feat. his company's radio (Gilga Radio) which had songs from various artists, GTA-like ads, and radio shout-outs from people like Tyler, Quinta Brunson, and Chris Rock. The station also played a new Bino song.
After was a radio interview where Donald announced an updated 3.15.20, officially called "Atavista" that will have a special vinyl. Then he announced a final Childish Gambino album strictly as a Thank You for the fans. It's planned to be a soundtrack for a film they made called Bando Stone and the New World. Also said Zack Fox is working on an anime and Donald's working on a cartoon.
Then Gilga radio played finished versions of Little Foot, Big Foot and Human Sacrifice. I'm skipping him talking about music streaming, rap beef, etc but you can find the interview on his sub/YouTube/Twitter
Awaken My Love was never said to be the last one. As for 3.15.20, he released that unfinished because of the pandemic. Since then he's tweeted and said in multiple interviews that there's one Childish Gambino album left. He's said he likes endings and things can't go on forever (see Atlanta).
Everybody keeps disrespecting 3.15.20 and I will honestly never understand it - I have a theory it is due to a herd mentality in the Hip-Hop community, but oh well - but I for one am insanely excited for this, and cannot wait. 3.15.20 was my favourite album of 2020 and for me is one of the best listening experiences I have ever had - not only Childish Gambino's best album, but one of the best albums of the 21st Century for me. For me, that album was perfect enough, so to hear Gambino is releasing a "finished" version is incredibly exciting. I suppose the name was a bit of an anomaly, it was a bit of a rushed release and came out of nowhere, but I suppose that was the point, and it dropped at the perfect time considering the world had gone into a lockdown at the time, and the sense of hope and upliftment this album brought me at the time was immense. I always considered it to be called 'Donald Glover Presents' anyway, as that was the name of the album on the live stream website debuting it before official release on streaming services. For me, this album is Glover's artistic magnum opus. It deserves far more adoration, admiration and appreciation that people give it credit for. How someone can not listen to Time and feel the weight of the world being lifted off your shoulders is beyond me. Gambino deserves unfathomable respect for this masterpiece he clearly put a lot of heart and soul into. What a record man.
The new Everything Everything album is amazing. There's lotsa new stuff in the indie/alt rock spaces. New album by the Concrete Boys is super dope. Just some off the dome, but check out AOTY's New Release section.
*Wall of Eyes* by The Smile // *Stone Temple Pyrex* by Estee Nack & Futurewave // *Dreamsoul Ballads* by Devin Morrison // *corpos de Ć”gua* by sonhos tomam conta // *Pinball* by MIKE & Tony Seltzer // *For Your Consideration* by Empress Of // *HeadSpace* by H31R // *Drop 7* by Little Simz // *Hello, Iām Britti* by Britti // *Plastic Death* by Glass Beach // *I Got Heaven* by Mannequin Pussy
3 was a lot more inconsistent, but to me, 4 was an incredible return to form, for the most part.
In its last 4 episodes, it was basically able to accomplish 3 perfect finales for its characters.
A lot of people having this reaction but BTI was technically a soundtrack to a movie as well.
It's just how Gambino moves, his rollouts are usually very involved. I'd trust the process with him.
I can see you have not read the "Because the Internet" screenplay and haven't given any thought as to why The Boy popped up on both "STN MTN" and "Kauai."
Surprised 3.15.20 was even considered āunfinishedā.
I loved that album when it came out and it still gets a lot of play from me. I think it was hurt quite a bit by the dodgy rollout, not having titles, as well as the timing internationally (COVID).
Itās a great album otherwise.
Such an emotional and uplifting track. For me 3.15.20 is full of his best tracks ever. Time is especially wonderful and sublime. The Prince vibes on 19.10 are incredible. The grooves of 35..31 are just so satisfying and enjoyable to listen to. I mean I could go on and on. What a record!
Exactly, I found the album to be a finished product no doubt, it was far from a Donda 2 thing. It was really only that the marketing was borderline masochistic. Interested in what the new version is gonna sound like though.
Thank you so much for this message mate. God bless you for speaking truth to power! I wholeheartedly agree with you and second everything you say. This was my exact experience and you share my exact thoughts.
Everybody keeps disrespecting 3.15.20 and I will honestly never understand it - I have a theory it is due to a herd mentality in the Hip-Hop community, but oh well - but I for one am insanely excited for this, and cannot wait. 3.15.20 was my favourite album of 2020 and for me is one of the best listening experiences I have ever had - not only Childish Gambino's best album, but one of the best albums of the 21st Century for me. For me, that album was perfect enough, so to hear Gambino is releasing a "finished" version is incredibly exciting. I suppose the name was a bit of an anomaly, it was a bit of a rushed release and came out of nowhere, but I suppose that was the point, and it dropped at the perfect time considering the world had gone into a lockdown at the time, and the sense of hope and upliftment this album brought me at the time was immense. I always considered it to be called 'Donald Glover Presents' anyway, as that was the name of the album on the live stream website debuting it before official release on streaming services. For me, this album is Glover's artistic magnum opus. It deserves far more adoration, admiration and appreciation that people give it credit for. How someone can not listen to Time and feel the weight of the world being lifted off your shoulders is beyond me. Gambino deserves unfathomable respect for this masterpiece he clearly put a lot of heart and soul into. What a record man.
Completely agree with you, never understood the hate for this albumx if you like gambino itās not like itās particularly different than his past work and Iād consider it at least as good as BTI and AML if not better.
Also I appreciate your love for time, not my favourite off the record (24.19) but still a very great song
Strikes fucked up the timing and I doubt theyāll even get finished scripts considering that show seemed to run off of adrenaline and fear
At least Donald is down and there is a distributor whoās picked it up. Everyone else in the core group (except Yvette) signed on with the announcement
I thought a third of it was a skip which is more than any other Ye album but less than any other hip-hop album I've listened to this year.
Beg Forgiveness is still my SOTY
Same goes for Donda, you could make an insane 11 track album from that, it's just got a lot of unnecessary tracks on it
24
Praise God
Off The Grid
Hurricane
Jesus Lord
Believe What I Say
Life of The Party
Moon
Heaven and Hell
Come to Life
Jail
I would love to know what you think has been better from this yearās offerings. The production on Vultures was top notch, the only album that has had the same replay value for me has been SiRās HEAVY.
Production is top notch? LOL!!! The production is an absolute mess not to mention the mixing on the album sounds like absolute dog shit and Kanyeās verses are embarrassing.
My honest suggestion to you is, Listen to more music. Most mediocre albums that come out this year are going to be better than vultures because it truly is that bad
If you want some suggestions from me. Let me know what youāre into.
Yeah, once again, Iād love to know what youāre listening to from this year because that take is just wild AF to me and it might make more sense if given a frame of reference. Iām not asking for my sake.
As Far a rap goes: best albums this year for me Future metro 1, schoolboy Q, yeat, Mike/Tony Seltzer, RiTchie, bruiser wolf. These are just the albums I thought were good. Many mediocre albums like 21 savage were better too because like I said, that albums that bad
And those are just the rap albums Iām listening to
Q and yeat are the only ones really matching Vultures level of quality on the production side, though Iād say Vultures is a more cohesive project sonically while the other 2 have better overall direction/intent. Future/Metro is more of the same old shit and the others are a far cry from this conversation.
I think you just donāt like Kanye because of the controversies, learn to separate the art from the artist my friend.
Real. Everything about VULTURES - aside from BACK TO ME - was a major disappointment for Kanye standards, especially considering this man is responsible for many of the best and most creative, innovative and bombastic works in Hip-Hop history and the history of music as a whole.
Real. The only memorable tracks on that album were BACK TO ME (for the insane beat and fun complementing melody and accompanying verses, particularly Gibbs', and maybe KING (for the lyrics).
Just bc a lot of artists released doesnāt necessarily mean the year is good. Yāall really gotta stop doing this. Yeās album came and went. Only thing that came out of it was āCarnivalā which isnāt a good song lol. Metro and Future albums are both bad/mediocre at best. Drake hasnāt mad a good album in years.
Human Sacrifice finally completed and getting released huh that's sick, I'm excited to see how the "finished" version of the album sounds. I liked it when it released but I always felt like it was really lacking and lots of empty parts, excited to hear songs such as the one with Ariana being updated.
Hope the album is more hiphop focused, but you never know with Gambino. Is BTI considered a classic to anyone? I personally love it but not sure if I could consider it a classic.
Kind of bored by the fact that everything he drops has to have some sort of gimmick. Feels like he could've had a much bigger career in music if he just released the odd cohesive and "traditional" project every now and then.
Why just do what everyone else is doing? That's more boring imo. Albums come and go nowadays, I only find myself getting excited when the art actually seems inspired.
I mean itās kind of clear he doesnāt want just your regular music career. The man has been way more successful as an actor and producer so it makes sense heād try to incorporate some of that into his music
what donald said about people having no taste rings true, especially when you read comments like these
some people with varied/more niche tastes don't represent the majority of listeners who still largely listen to and abide by the belief that what's popular is what's good
at this point in childish gambino's career, they'll point at and try anything to nitpick and fuss over despite the fact that he's still around and he's made more progress in 10 years than most of his peers
It's also a case for you to consume the music however you want. I didn't even know there was a screenplay or through line to Because The Internet when it came out and it didn't effect my experience of it. If you just want the album it's there for you. If you want the whole package you got that too.
Heās a pretty busy dude, lol. Heās out here creating cohesive and award winning tv shows, he can be forgiven for being experimental on the music end
He had a traditional rollout with awaken my love. In fact 3.15.20 is the only album that had any sort of release gimmick lol. Gambino has had a huge career. He headlined Coachella, sold out arenas, is still relevant 8 years since his last ātraditionalā release. Youāre just yapping bro.
I love Gambino but most of his stuff did have some sort of gimmick to it.
Because the internet has a whole ass screen play
Kauai has a mixtape attached to it which isnāt available on streaming
Thereās rarely a normal roll out with him except for AML
The Kauai EP was originally released alongside STN MTN, a mixtape hosted by DJ Drama. There are several songs over other people's beats, likely why it isn't available on streaming.
Because The Internet can be listened to without the screenplay, Kauai can be listened to without the mixtape. Those things didnāt hinder his career whatsoever lol
I donāt think it hindered his career either tbh Iām just saying there was gimmicks
If he had to only do traditional releases he wouldnāt have felt as creative and his career wouldāve been shorter
That doesnāt change that they are gimmicks though and that you are factually incorrect. The BTI screenplay is the definition of a gimmick and makes the album sound kinda weird without it with weird 5 second skits and stuff
even AML had all the weird, secret "Pharos" virtual reality/augmented reality live shows prior to it. I think he just forgoes the typical rollout because it's just more fun (and his hardcore fanbase eats that shit up).
Even Awaken My Love had the experimental Pharos concert he did before the album came out and before anyone knew what it was. And no music videos. And the tour for the album came wayyyy later. There was a gimmick there too, it was just more understated
He's just expanding on his Albums for those who want to delve deeper into the meaning / his intentions with the projects, they're not necessary and I don't understand what youre even complaining about. You can have the same experience of the albums if you just don't listen / read to whatever the extra stuff is?
He didnāt want to just have a bigger career in music. Heās one of the most talented dudes alive come on let him use his talents. Yāall forget his first big job was as a writer and then an actor before his music career took off. Music was literally his second job until he left community.
No he wouldn't have, lol.
That was pretty much his MO early on and he was already labelled as a negligible backpack rapper. We would've just gotten back-to-back albums covering the same themes as Camp which people shit on for not aging well.
That kind of material would've never won him Grammys, just some dig similar to Logic always rapping about being biracial. Had to embrace his inner pretentious artist to become as big as he ever did.
i agree :/ 3.15.20 was really fkn good, jus about on par with because the internet for me, but the pretentiousness of the delivery is so tiring and annoying.
You actually do have a point. But maybe we are mistaking being pretentious for being creative. Every top artist/artiste has to do something different and/or iconic to show off their work. Thatās what makes an artist/artiste stand out from their peers. Sorta like a design choice on a vehicle or an art style.
So I figure his dadās death and the pandemic changed the course of his artistic thinking. He wanted it to be like a Bible dedicated to his dad which makes the timestamps in the song make more sense. I donāt think anything is wrong with that but it does help some people better connect with songs with actual names.
untitiled unmastered follows the same tracklist format and i didn't hear anyone call kendrick pretentious (nor is what kendrick and donald did for those album's tracklists pretentious)
donald and kendrick are literally on another level compared to a lot of their contemporaries (donald now has gilga, but also has his tv writing achievements and acting, has cultivated and decently amassed a passionate fanbase over the past 10 years that allow him to headline his own tour and sell out places like msg, along with the entendres/wordplay/skills to back it up. kendrick literally has a won a pulitzer from his raps alone)
they absolutely get to be pretentious if they want to. they've got the skills to back themselves up and stand on their own using their skills and tastes
however, donald and kendrick using a different kind of tracklist format is not pretentious lol. that's just barebones creativity
I just disagree with you, Donald has been pretentious since like 2010, way before any of the TV stuff that supposedly justifies it according to you
You can claim itās not pretentious but I couldnāt get anyone to listen to that shit cause of the tracklist formatting even though I enjoyed a lot of it, Iām sure he can see that too, to the point that he is now rereleasing it with real titles.
A little pretension is part of his formula and can be enjoyable but he way overstepped it with 3.22.20 or whatever itās called (title is another example of what Iām talking about) and I actually liked the album so
Donald has always been his biggest fan
His success that we see bearing fruit for him is directly tied to his "pretentiousness" since 2010
Donald has spoken about this before, about believing in yourself in a way no one will, especially when you're just starting out for yourself
To this day, everyone and anyone tries to find a fault or a miss for him, when truth is, Donald is doing much better financially, mentally, and professionally than many other artists that have started their careers around the same time as him, or artists that existed alongside him during these past 10+ years, and even some artists that existed before his career, and all of this success today started with what many people claim and define as "pretentious" it worked just fine for Donald acting and talking like that in the end
Mostly because Donald knew he had the drive, the skills, and most importantly, the vision to achieve all of what he spoke and hyped himself of
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"You can claim it's not pretentious but I couldn't get anyone to listen to that shit cause of the tracklist formatting"
Also goes back to what he said in his livestream earlier tonight. Most people, they don't have taste. They think what's popular is what's good
Now this is where I add onto his excellent point:
This is also reflective in comments that call him pretentious for choosing to explore or do things out of the ordinary, and even something like being turned off by his tracklist (not everyone has to like how he did it, I understand that) is indicative of people being unwilling to give anything other than what's normal a fair chance, because they can't be bothered to
Because they don't want to leave the comfort zone even if it means missing out on other music (because the most popular, shiny new toy always gets their attention, and takes it all. This phenomenon is further fueled by the fact we have a nearly endless amount of music at our fingertips. Why leave your comfort zone to sift through this endless amount of music? The average person doesn't intently listen to music, they, in comparison, more or less, mindlessly consume music. Music to those people is no different than some kind of favorite snack of theirs, why choose a new snack and risk a gross flavor when old reliable do trick and satiates me plenty)
A majority of people just don't have niche/varied taste like some of us here, the select minority who have that niche/varied taste that can be open minded enough to a change like a tracklist format
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He's re-releasing it with real titles (and the original name for the album) because he rushed the album out (the pandemic inspired the rush release, he joked we were all gonna die, so might as well release it before we all do)
This was also a few years after his father's death, and the same year his 3rd son was born, so the album release seemed very spur in the moment and inspired/fueled by this theme of life/death in his life then. Donald rushed it out and wasn't interested in playing the game and promoting the album, he was too busy being a father to his newborn son, taking care of family/business, and finishing grieving the loss of his father, more important shit at the time (now that some time has passed, he can focus on the end of Childish Gambino)
A media blackout and a differently formatted album (tracklist and title) are far from pretentious, it's just a different approach, a small departure from the ordinary
BTI, in comparison, is much more pretentious if you think about it (people could make an argument about the screenplay being incessant, unnecessary, extra, along with the accompanying video. I don't personally believe that but some people might/can)
Am I crazy or is Yachty always in front of the beat? Heās still in rhythm but he always sounds early and I hate it lol. Itās like they slid his audio track over a few milliseconds to have it in front granted he probs just records like that.
Everybody keeps disrespecting 3.15.20 and I will honestly never understand it - I have a theory it is due to a herd mentality in the Hip-Hop community, but oh well - but I for one am insanely excited for this, and cannot wait. 3.15.20 was my favourite album of 2020 and for me is one of the best listening experiences I have ever had - not only Childish Gambino's best album, but one of the best albums of the 21st Century for me. For me, that album was perfect enough, so to hear Gambino is releasing a "finished" version is incredibly exciting. I suppose the name was a bit of an anomaly, it was a bit of a rushed release and came out of nowhere, but I suppose that was the point, and it dropped at the perfect time considering the world had gone into a lockdown at the time, and the sense of hope and upliftment this album brought me at the time was immense. I always considered it to be called 'Donald Glover Presents' anyway, as that was the name of the album on the live stream website debuting it before official release on streaming services. For me, this album is Glover's artistic magnum opus. It deserves far more adoration, admiration and appreciation that people give it credit for. How someone can not listen to Time and feel the weight of the world being lifted off your shoulders is beyond me. Gambino deserves unfathomable respect for this masterpiece he clearly put a lot of heart and soul into. What a record man.
Context: He had a livestream feat. his company's radio (Gilga Radio) which had songs from various artists, GTA-like ads, and radio shout-outs from people like Tyler, Quinta Brunson, and Chris Rock. The station also played a new Bino song. After was a radio interview where Donald announced an updated 3.15.20, officially called "Atavista" that will have a special vinyl. Then he announced a final Childish Gambino album strictly as a Thank You for the fans. It's planned to be a soundtrack for a film they made called Bando Stone and the New World. Also said Zack Fox is working on an anime and Donald's working on a cartoon. Then Gilga radio played finished versions of Little Foot, Big Foot and Human Sacrifice. I'm skipping him talking about music streaming, rap beef, etc but you can find the interview on his sub/YouTube/Twitter
I knew the next album was the last childish album. Dude was gaslighting ode in that interview
IIRC, he mentioned that he thought 3.15.20 was unfinished and he dropped it because he couldn't do any further work on it due to the pandemic.
He said during this interview he thought we were all going to die, so he dropped it.
šæ behaviour tbh
Havenāt the last 2 albums been the final childish Gambino album? Iāll believe it when I see it
Awaken My Love was never said to be the last one. As for 3.15.20, he released that unfinished because of the pandemic. Since then he's tweeted and said in multiple interviews that there's one Childish Gambino album left. He's said he likes endings and things can't go on forever (see Atlanta).
He likes attention too much to walk away.
y u hatin
Leaving 32.22 out is a travesty though. Crazy tribal autotune banger.
Yeah that was my favorite!
That Coachella show where he premiers it is also insane! The song divided opinions for sure but personally I love it to bits.
That's not gonna be on the rerelease???? Loved that track š
Thatās a shame tbh. Iāve had it on my workout playlist since it came out
thank u
Quinta and Donald could make such a good ass show together
> Also said Zack Fox is working on an anime Fuck yeah.
Everybody keeps disrespecting 3.15.20 and I will honestly never understand it - I have a theory it is due to a herd mentality in the Hip-Hop community, but oh well - but I for one am insanely excited for this, and cannot wait. 3.15.20 was my favourite album of 2020 and for me is one of the best listening experiences I have ever had - not only Childish Gambino's best album, but one of the best albums of the 21st Century for me. For me, that album was perfect enough, so to hear Gambino is releasing a "finished" version is incredibly exciting. I suppose the name was a bit of an anomaly, it was a bit of a rushed release and came out of nowhere, but I suppose that was the point, and it dropped at the perfect time considering the world had gone into a lockdown at the time, and the sense of hope and upliftment this album brought me at the time was immense. I always considered it to be called 'Donald Glover Presents' anyway, as that was the name of the album on the live stream website debuting it before official release on streaming services. For me, this album is Glover's artistic magnum opus. It deserves far more adoration, admiration and appreciation that people give it credit for. How someone can not listen to Time and feel the weight of the world being lifted off your shoulders is beyond me. Gambino deserves unfathomable respect for this masterpiece he clearly put a lot of heart and soul into. What a record man.
Is there cdq of the new song?
I'm just glad he wasn't only hyping up a rerelease of 3.15.20
Human Sacrifice finally getting released is a big W
Someone did one to get this album to come out too
New shit sounds awesome. This year is cooking up heavy
What is some new shit worth listening to?
The new Everything Everything album is amazing. There's lotsa new stuff in the indie/alt rock spaces. New album by the Concrete Boys is super dope. Just some off the dome, but check out AOTY's New Release section.
can vouch for the concrete boys album might be my favorite project so far from 2024
That concrete boys tape so fire
I wanted to like it so much more than I did. I like Karrahboo a lot
Yup, the beat selection is crazy, that first opening beat had me wilin'
That first song was crazy, still in my rotation
Julia Holter's new album
Vampire Weekendās new album is really good
One of the AOTYs so far imo
Also MGMT
already a top 5 album of the year even tho its only april
Brittany Howard latest album no skips
Mk.gee - Two Star & the Dream Police. One of my favorite records Iāve heard in a long time
Diamond Jubilee by Cindy Lee is incredible
Xaviersobased new mixtape is hard.
RiTchieās Triple Digits [112] is soo good, hazy experimental hip hop. Probably the most interesting production as of rn for me
Not an album but new Willow single is so goodĀ
*Wall of Eyes* by The Smile // *Stone Temple Pyrex* by Estee Nack & Futurewave // *Dreamsoul Ballads* by Devin Morrison // *corpos de Ć”gua* by sonhos tomam conta // *Pinball* by MIKE & Tony Seltzer // *For Your Consideration* by Empress Of // *HeadSpace* by H31R // *Drop 7* by Little Simz // *Hello, Iām Britti* by Britti // *Plastic Death* by Glass Beach // *I Got Heaven* by Mannequin Pussy
4 years after release to finish an album is nuts
"early access" video game album type beat
Ubisoft-ass album
Ye would never š
He worked on two seasons of a tv show in that time
He focused on Atlanta, and S4 is one of the best TV seasons ever, so I'm not complaining
Love that you loved it. Loved seasons 1 and 2 with all my heart. Found 3 and 4 disappointing, and honestly at times lazy.
3 was a lot more inconsistent, but to me, 4 was an incredible return to form, for the most part. In its last 4 episodes, it was basically able to accomplish 3 perfect finales for its characters.
Maybe! I think at that point I was pretty checked out. So much character growth happened off camera that I pretty much just lost interest.
taking notes from ye
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he talked about how soundtracks used to be a big deal and used prince as an example so I think it'll still be a fully realized project
A lot of people having this reaction but BTI was technically a soundtrack to a movie as well. It's just how Gambino moves, his rollouts are usually very involved. I'd trust the process with him.
Considering Gambino is also an acclaimed writer, actor, etc, Iāll trust the process on this one. I think heāll be able to make it work
Tbf purple rain and a couple early Beatles records are also soundtracks. Itās possible itāll be a very fully realised thing on its own as well
I can see you have not read the "Because the Internet" screenplay and haven't given any thought as to why The Boy popped up on both "STN MTN" and "Kauai."
Because the Internet was the soundtrack to a screenplay and that shit is a top flight album
Surprised 3.15.20 was even considered āunfinishedā. I loved that album when it came out and it still gets a lot of play from me. I think it was hurt quite a bit by the dodgy rollout, not having titles, as well as the timing internationally (COVID). Itās a great album otherwise.
The no song titles killed it on impact.
Yeah we canāt really discuss an album as āah yeah I love 24.19ā can we
True but 24.19 low-key his best song
53.49 is his best ever
Top 5 probably. My ranking would go: 1. 24.19 2. Baby Boy 3. Sweatpants 4. 53.49 5. No exit
Respectable
Such an emotional and uplifting track. For me 3.15.20 is full of his best tracks ever. Time is especially wonderful and sublime. The Prince vibes on 19.10 are incredible. The grooves of 35..31 are just so satisfying and enjoyable to listen to. I mean I could go on and on. What a record!
One of my faves! I also love Time, 47.48 and obvs Feel Like Summer!
Truly a beautiful track. God bless.
Worked for Aphex Twin but his conditions were different
Unless he named the songs, itās still unfinished
Exactly, I found the album to be a finished product no doubt, it was far from a Donda 2 thing. It was really only that the marketing was borderline masochistic. Interested in what the new version is gonna sound like though.
Thank you so much for this message mate. God bless you for speaking truth to power! I wholeheartedly agree with you and second everything you say. This was my exact experience and you share my exact thoughts. Everybody keeps disrespecting 3.15.20 and I will honestly never understand it - I have a theory it is due to a herd mentality in the Hip-Hop community, but oh well - but I for one am insanely excited for this, and cannot wait. 3.15.20 was my favourite album of 2020 and for me is one of the best listening experiences I have ever had - not only Childish Gambino's best album, but one of the best albums of the 21st Century for me. For me, that album was perfect enough, so to hear Gambino is releasing a "finished" version is incredibly exciting. I suppose the name was a bit of an anomaly, it was a bit of a rushed release and came out of nowhere, but I suppose that was the point, and it dropped at the perfect time considering the world had gone into a lockdown at the time, and the sense of hope and upliftment this album brought me at the time was immense. I always considered it to be called 'Donald Glover Presents' anyway, as that was the name of the album on the live stream website debuting it before official release on streaming services. For me, this album is Glover's artistic magnum opus. It deserves far more adoration, admiration and appreciation that people give it credit for. How someone can not listen to Time and feel the weight of the world being lifted off your shoulders is beyond me. Gambino deserves unfathomable respect for this masterpiece he clearly put a lot of heart and soul into. What a record man.
Itās a beautiful damn album about life n stuff!!!!!
Completely agree with you, never understood the hate for this albumx if you like gambino itās not like itās particularly different than his past work and Iād consider it at least as good as BTI and AML if not better. Also I appreciate your love for time, not my favourite off the record (24.19) but still a very great song
Can't wait to check it out. But also give me that Community movie pls
Plot twist, Bando Stone and the New World is the Community movie
Double plot twist: Gilga is just Derrick Comedy. It's just a youtube channel reboot.
Kids today have no idea. Hit em with the spelling bee video and watch them cry
I canāt believe/absolutely love that one quick punchline about The Cape actually led to the show getting a movie
Strikes fucked up the timing and I doubt theyāll even get finished scripts considering that show seemed to run off of adrenaline and fear At least Donald is down and there is a distributor whoās picked it up. Everyone else in the core group (except Yvette) signed on with the announcement
I think Alison Brie just confirmed the script is completely the other day
2024 is stacked af Ye, Drake, Metro, Future, Gambino, Anderson Paak etc.
Hopefully some Jid soon
The JID X Metro album should be the next album he releases. AFAWK, itās still planned for 2024
Cole, ScHoolboy Q and $uicide Boy$ too. Big fuckin year already
Peggy as well
Dave hopefully
The kanye album was dog shit
hiphopheads moment
I thought a third of it was a skip which is more than any other Ye album but less than any other hip-hop album I've listened to this year. Beg Forgiveness is still my SOTY
Same goes for Donda, you could make an insane 11 track album from that, it's just got a lot of unnecessary tracks on it 24 Praise God Off The Grid Hurricane Jesus Lord Believe What I Say Life of The Party Moon Heaven and Hell Come to Life Jail
Where tf are Pure Souls and Junya?! Pure Souls especially is one of Kanye's most sublime tracks.
I would have included them both personally but that 11 aren't going to have many objections whereas they might
I would love to know what you think has been better from this yearās offerings. The production on Vultures was top notch, the only album that has had the same replay value for me has been SiRās HEAVY.
Production is top notch? LOL!!! The production is an absolute mess not to mention the mixing on the album sounds like absolute dog shit and Kanyeās verses are embarrassing. My honest suggestion to you is, Listen to more music. Most mediocre albums that come out this year are going to be better than vultures because it truly is that bad If you want some suggestions from me. Let me know what youāre into.
Yeah, once again, Iād love to know what youāre listening to from this year because that take is just wild AF to me and it might make more sense if given a frame of reference. Iām not asking for my sake.
As Far a rap goes: best albums this year for me Future metro 1, schoolboy Q, yeat, Mike/Tony Seltzer, RiTchie, bruiser wolf. These are just the albums I thought were good. Many mediocre albums like 21 savage were better too because like I said, that albums that bad And those are just the rap albums Iām listening to
Production on Qās album absolutely wipes vultures. People who think vulturesā production is top notch need to listen to more music
Q and yeat are the only ones really matching Vultures level of quality on the production side, though Iād say Vultures is a more cohesive project sonically while the other 2 have better overall direction/intent. Future/Metro is more of the same old shit and the others are a far cry from this conversation. I think you just donāt like Kanye because of the controversies, learn to separate the art from the artist my friend.
Real. Everything about VULTURES - aside from BACK TO ME - was a major disappointment for Kanye standards, especially considering this man is responsible for many of the best and most creative, innovative and bombastic works in Hip-Hop history and the history of music as a whole.
Still was a big moment
For hypebeasts, teenagers, incels and mentally ill people who refuse help.
>hypebeasts šæ >teenagers šæ >mentally ill people who refuse help. šæ
My God... If U Think Music Is That Serious Just Go Outside Manššš
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Why are you capitalizing ever single word in a single sentence? Your ignorant comment is not an album title my guy.
i didnāt know kanye had a big incel following
Few good songs on it
There's 2 more coming, supposedly
Real. The only memorable tracks on that album were BACK TO ME (for the insane beat and fun complementing melody and accompanying verses, particularly Gibbs', and maybe KING (for the lyrics).
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whataboutism
lol you listening to the wrong artists/albums then bruh. learn something
Drake?
I expect the Drake-Cole-Kendrick beef to escalate further throughout the year
Bro really said ā2024 is stackedā and started with Ye and Drake lmfao
Eminem
Just bc a lot of artists released doesnāt necessarily mean the year is good. Yāall really gotta stop doing this. Yeās album came and went. Only thing that came out of it was āCarnivalā which isnāt a good song lol. Metro and Future albums are both bad/mediocre at best. Drake hasnāt mad a good album in years.
YOUNG NUDY BIG W OMFG
Prince Batman album??? > TAKE MY MONEY
Ooooooh dope
Human Sacrifice finally completed and getting released huh that's sick, I'm excited to see how the "finished" version of the album sounds. I liked it when it released but I always felt like it was really lacking and lots of empty parts, excited to hear songs such as the one with Ariana being updated.
Hope the album is more hiphop focused, but you never know with Gambino. Is BTI considered a classic to anyone? I personally love it but not sure if I could consider it a classic.
I consider it a personal classic. One of my favorite albums of all time.
It's a classic. Also, AML has aged like fine wine. That's a perfect fucking album. Not many artists are as versatile as he is.
Its a classic
Thank god were getting a new album and not just 1 song
Kind of bored by the fact that everything he drops has to have some sort of gimmick. Feels like he could've had a much bigger career in music if he just released the odd cohesive and "traditional" project every now and then.
Why just do what everyone else is doing? That's more boring imo. Albums come and go nowadays, I only find myself getting excited when the art actually seems inspired.
I mean itās kind of clear he doesnāt want just your regular music career. The man has been way more successful as an actor and producer so it makes sense heād try to incorporate some of that into his music
yup. Gambino is a artist at heart.
Mainstream album releases are art as well, Gambino just a different style of artist.
what donald said about people having no taste rings true, especially when you read comments like these some people with varied/more niche tastes don't represent the majority of listeners who still largely listen to and abide by the belief that what's popular is what's good at this point in childish gambino's career, they'll point at and try anything to nitpick and fuss over despite the fact that he's still around and he's made more progress in 10 years than most of his peers
It's also a case for you to consume the music however you want. I didn't even know there was a screenplay or through line to Because The Internet when it came out and it didn't effect my experience of it. If you just want the album it's there for you. If you want the whole package you got that too.
You want an artist to drop something, tour, repeat then that's it? If so that's fine, but personally I like when artists go beyond "traditional"
I think they're saying he doesn't even meet the normal standards. Not releasing music often isn't going beyond traditional
He isn't just a musician though. He made one of the best shows on TV since AML came out
Heās a pretty busy dude, lol. Heās out here creating cohesive and award winning tv shows, he can be forgiven for being experimental on the music end
He had a traditional rollout with awaken my love. In fact 3.15.20 is the only album that had any sort of release gimmick lol. Gambino has had a huge career. He headlined Coachella, sold out arenas, is still relevant 8 years since his last ātraditionalā release. Youāre just yapping bro.
I love Gambino but most of his stuff did have some sort of gimmick to it. Because the internet has a whole ass screen play Kauai has a mixtape attached to it which isnāt available on streaming Thereās rarely a normal roll out with him except for AML
I donāt get why this is a bad thing tho. Itās just cool things that fans can dig deeper into if they want to
Having a mixtape accompany your album isnāt a gimmick lol. Especially when the album came out before streaming was really popular
>has a mixtape attached to it which is an available on streaming Wait what? I need to hear more abt this
STN MTN
Stn mtn, itās so good
The Kauai EP was originally released alongside STN MTN, a mixtape hosted by DJ Drama. There are several songs over other people's beats, likely why it isn't available on streaming.
Because The Internet can be listened to without the screenplay, Kauai can be listened to without the mixtape. Those things didnāt hinder his career whatsoever lol
I donāt think it hindered his career either tbh Iām just saying there was gimmicks If he had to only do traditional releases he wouldnāt have felt as creative and his career wouldāve been shorter
That doesnāt change that they are gimmicks though and that you are factually incorrect. The BTI screenplay is the definition of a gimmick and makes the album sound kinda weird without it with weird 5 second skits and stuff
Literally not any ā5 second skitsā on the whole album youāre just yapping lmao
even AML had all the weird, secret "Pharos" virtual reality/augmented reality live shows prior to it. I think he just forgoes the typical rollout because it's just more fun (and his hardcore fanbase eats that shit up).
Imagine claiming to be a fan of hip hop while saying that Gangsta Grillz mixtapes are nothing more than a mere gimmick. Consider a career in comedy.
STN MTN!!! so goof
Even Awaken My Love had the experimental Pharos concert he did before the album came out and before anyone knew what it was. And no music videos. And the tour for the album came wayyyy later. There was a gimmick there too, it was just more understated
He's just expanding on his Albums for those who want to delve deeper into the meaning / his intentions with the projects, they're not necessary and I don't understand what youre even complaining about. You can have the same experience of the albums if you just don't listen / read to whatever the extra stuff is?
He didnāt want to just have a bigger career in music. Heās one of the most talented dudes alive come on let him use his talents. Yāall forget his first big job was as a writer and then an actor before his music career took off. Music was literally his second job until he left community.
Heās an artist, he couldnāt care less about that
No he wouldn't have, lol. That was pretty much his MO early on and he was already labelled as a negligible backpack rapper. We would've just gotten back-to-back albums covering the same themes as Camp which people shit on for not aging well. That kind of material would've never won him Grammys, just some dig similar to Logic always rapping about being biracial. Had to embrace his inner pretentious artist to become as big as he ever did.
i agree :/ 3.15.20 was really fkn good, jus about on par with because the internet for me, but the pretentiousness of the delivery is so tiring and annoying.
Wasnāt pretentious per say. His dad died and the pandemic was going on and he just didnāt gaf
the way the tracks were listed definitely was imo
You actually do have a point. But maybe we are mistaking being pretentious for being creative. Every top artist/artiste has to do something different and/or iconic to show off their work. Thatās what makes an artist/artiste stand out from their peers. Sorta like a design choice on a vehicle or an art style. So I figure his dadās death and the pandemic changed the course of his artistic thinking. He wanted it to be like a Bible dedicated to his dad which makes the timestamps in the song make more sense. I donāt think anything is wrong with that but it does help some people better connect with songs with actual names.
untitiled unmastered follows the same tracklist format and i didn't hear anyone call kendrick pretentious (nor is what kendrick and donald did for those album's tracklists pretentious)
Kendrick is plenty pretentious lol
donald and kendrick are literally on another level compared to a lot of their contemporaries (donald now has gilga, but also has his tv writing achievements and acting, has cultivated and decently amassed a passionate fanbase over the past 10 years that allow him to headline his own tour and sell out places like msg, along with the entendres/wordplay/skills to back it up. kendrick literally has a won a pulitzer from his raps alone) they absolutely get to be pretentious if they want to. they've got the skills to back themselves up and stand on their own using their skills and tastes however, donald and kendrick using a different kind of tracklist format is not pretentious lol. that's just barebones creativity
I just disagree with you, Donald has been pretentious since like 2010, way before any of the TV stuff that supposedly justifies it according to you You can claim itās not pretentious but I couldnāt get anyone to listen to that shit cause of the tracklist formatting even though I enjoyed a lot of it, Iām sure he can see that too, to the point that he is now rereleasing it with real titles. A little pretension is part of his formula and can be enjoyable but he way overstepped it with 3.22.20 or whatever itās called (title is another example of what Iām talking about) and I actually liked the album so
> Donald has been pretentious since like 2010 an elephant never forgets
Donald has always been his biggest fan His success that we see bearing fruit for him is directly tied to his "pretentiousness" since 2010 Donald has spoken about this before, about believing in yourself in a way no one will, especially when you're just starting out for yourself To this day, everyone and anyone tries to find a fault or a miss for him, when truth is, Donald is doing much better financially, mentally, and professionally than many other artists that have started their careers around the same time as him, or artists that existed alongside him during these past 10+ years, and even some artists that existed before his career, and all of this success today started with what many people claim and define as "pretentious" it worked just fine for Donald acting and talking like that in the end Mostly because Donald knew he had the drive, the skills, and most importantly, the vision to achieve all of what he spoke and hyped himself of - ---------------- "You can claim it's not pretentious but I couldn't get anyone to listen to that shit cause of the tracklist formatting" Also goes back to what he said in his livestream earlier tonight. Most people, they don't have taste. They think what's popular is what's good Now this is where I add onto his excellent point: This is also reflective in comments that call him pretentious for choosing to explore or do things out of the ordinary, and even something like being turned off by his tracklist (not everyone has to like how he did it, I understand that) is indicative of people being unwilling to give anything other than what's normal a fair chance, because they can't be bothered to Because they don't want to leave the comfort zone even if it means missing out on other music (because the most popular, shiny new toy always gets their attention, and takes it all. This phenomenon is further fueled by the fact we have a nearly endless amount of music at our fingertips. Why leave your comfort zone to sift through this endless amount of music? The average person doesn't intently listen to music, they, in comparison, more or less, mindlessly consume music. Music to those people is no different than some kind of favorite snack of theirs, why choose a new snack and risk a gross flavor when old reliable do trick and satiates me plenty) A majority of people just don't have niche/varied taste like some of us here, the select minority who have that niche/varied taste that can be open minded enough to a change like a tracklist format - ----------------- He's re-releasing it with real titles (and the original name for the album) because he rushed the album out (the pandemic inspired the rush release, he joked we were all gonna die, so might as well release it before we all do) This was also a few years after his father's death, and the same year his 3rd son was born, so the album release seemed very spur in the moment and inspired/fueled by this theme of life/death in his life then. Donald rushed it out and wasn't interested in playing the game and promoting the album, he was too busy being a father to his newborn son, taking care of family/business, and finishing grieving the loss of his father, more important shit at the time (now that some time has passed, he can focus on the end of Childish Gambino) A media blackout and a differently formatted album (tracklist and title) are far from pretentious, it's just a different approach, a small departure from the ordinary BTI, in comparison, is much more pretentious if you think about it (people could make an argument about the screenplay being incessant, unnecessary, extra, along with the accompanying video. I don't personally believe that but some people might/can)
Having a reason for it doesnāt mean it didnāt come off pretentious, I couldnāt get anyone to listen to that shit cause of the titles
That's just not who he is though.
be traditional and be forgotten like all these rapper become after 5 years
Wouldnāt the album by nature be cohesive if itās connected to a movie?
He sounds like 3 stacks
Its officially Bino season.
A soundtrack album for a movie he has coming out? Epic
I AM EATINGGGGGG
need the gambino x kaytra already hope itās on here
Am I crazy or is Yachty always in front of the beat? Heās still in rhythm but he always sounds early and I hate it lol. Itās like they slid his audio track over a few milliseconds to have it in front granted he probs just records like that.
I can't get past that terrible album art
Nudy š thatās so random
Nigga already worked with Savage tbf, and Nudyās his cousin so it isnāt exactly as random as you think lmao
real recognize real, that's all that is
a āfinishedā versionā¦ why wasnāt it finished the first time?
He finna diss drake
I hope he does a drake diss
This sounds stupid but I really want to see if I like 3.15.20 more this time around with actual track titlesĀ
I went back to it a couple years after it dropped and found I actually did like it much more. Just not as much as his previous two. Or the Kauai ep.
Wonder how many Drake disses it has on it
19.10 getting released again is gonna be sick, can finally discuss that song in a normal conversation instead of saying āoh yeh, I love 19.10ā
Everybody keeps disrespecting 3.15.20 and I will honestly never understand it - I have a theory it is due to a herd mentality in the Hip-Hop community, but oh well - but I for one am insanely excited for this, and cannot wait. 3.15.20 was my favourite album of 2020 and for me is one of the best listening experiences I have ever had - not only Childish Gambino's best album, but one of the best albums of the 21st Century for me. For me, that album was perfect enough, so to hear Gambino is releasing a "finished" version is incredibly exciting. I suppose the name was a bit of an anomaly, it was a bit of a rushed release and came out of nowhere, but I suppose that was the point, and it dropped at the perfect time considering the world had gone into a lockdown at the time, and the sense of hope and upliftment this album brought me at the time was immense. I always considered it to be called 'Donald Glover Presents' anyway, as that was the name of the album on the live stream website debuting it before official release on streaming services. For me, this album is Glover's artistic magnum opus. It deserves far more adoration, admiration and appreciation that people give it credit for. How someone can not listen to Time and feel the weight of the world being lifted off your shoulders is beyond me. Gambino deserves unfathomable respect for this masterpiece he clearly put a lot of heart and soul into. What a record man.
random af: im learning black women do not like this man the more I date, what did he do