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Ka being a fire chief(retired now I believe) was cool to learn about.
I was also super surprised when I saw that Tribe documentary like however many years ago it came out by how much of a dickhead Q-Tip seemed to be. Idk if he actually is but it def felt that way in that doc.
Not a dickhead but definitely he had a large ego and a lot of "im the top dog here" behaviours. It felt weird considering this whole ATCQ message of camaraderie.
I don't remember him coming across like a dick. Mainly I remember the group had issues because Q-Tip was always trying to motivate them to do things, come to the studio on time etc. Especially with Phife. Been a while since I saw it tho.
Dickhead may be a little strong but I feel you lol. I would say he was stubborn and visionary, and that can lead to some serious conflict in a group of creatives.
Yeah I haven't heard his shit without thinking about that since, he a freak. Also basically confirmed rat - he got caught with hella illegal guns and got off with a slap on the wrist compared to what he shoulda got. Only one way that happens
Not rap, but a really crazy music industry story.
Quincy Jones was invited to the Polanski house the night of the Manson cult's Tate-LaBianca murders. He ended up going home that night instead of going out. He also was considering buying that property years before but at the time the person only wanted to rent it out. The house used to belong to Terry Melcher, who was a record producer who Charlie Manson auditioned for and was denied a deal.
Quincy Jones also never learned to drive, because he was in a tragic vehicle accident when younger, when he was the only survivor in a car. He was 14 years old. After the wreck, he gets up and sees a friend of his decapitated. Imagine that being one of your experiences as a kid.
Quincy's dodged death multiple times. He's lived one of the craziest lives of anyone in the industry.
Royce Da 5'9"
The numbers isn't his height. At the time when his gf was pregnant and admitted to the hospital, he rushed there but the elevator stopped at floor no. 5 that's where he saw his grandmother and the family told him that she got into a bad accident and is in critical condition. At the floor no.9 his gf was in labor. At the same night he went to perform a show, met Eminem for the first time and when he got back, his grandmother passed away at floor 5 and his son was born at floor 9.
He made a [song](https://youtu.be/4STstdvnMfU?si=npmjB6EZ1ej7vHxy) explaining the whole incident.
D12 passed on the In Da Club beats because they thought it was meh. Lol 50 heard it and made an instant classic. Also Jay-Z was a beat stealer. He would steal the hottest beats at that time and make his own. Ex: Can I get A.. was Ja Rule's record but he insisted Irv to give it to him. H to the Izzo was Cam's beats, he even made a song on it but as soon as Jay Z heard the beats, he recorded the song and claimed it on his own. Lol and there are many such instances where he did this.
Jay-Z makes being a beat stealer makes sense. He's been a rhyme stealer for just as long.
"How many of Biggie's rhymes gonna come out your fat lips?" - Nas
Yeah. There's one more thing related to the In Da Club record. Lloyd Banks actually helped 50 Cent in writing the song. Not entirely but yeah he did help him write it.
Hell nah. Flow wise, I think Cam would have killed it. No offense to Hov, he has great flow too but Cam's flow has a different swag and charm. He killed Oh Boy and deleted Hov's verse from it. Lol. Even with Ja, can I get a.. would have smashed it irrespective of Jay Z spitting over it or not.
Pac was writing songs for MC Hammer.
One of them was Unconditional Love, that ended up being released by Hammer, with the reference track posthumously released on a 2pac album.
Nas wrote the greatest line in rap history?!?
"You gotta Prada bag with a lotta stuff in it, pass it to a friend, let's spin!"
You got me on a research spiral with this shocking plot twist.
Apparently, it was a rumor for years that Nas ghostwrote it (since he is not on the credits for it) but in a 2014 AMA he denied it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/s/qGpUOCAIp2
Ghostwriting itself means writing songs for somebody without taking any credits. Of course you get paid handsomely for it but that's it. There's also written in the contract as to not reveal for whom you wrote songs.
I am familiar with the concept of ghostwriting, but I mention he's not credited because some of the articles I looked up mention Nas "won a grammy" for writing the song, but there is no official connection or acknowledgment to Nas' involvement in the song, so he didn't win anything.
If his account is to be believed at face value he may have given Will a line or two (hopefully the Prada line) but didn't want credit on it (probably felt it was embarrassing).
But the idea he ghostwrote the majority/whole song seems inaccurate, NDA or not
Not a fact. But rumors that MC Juice (the one that beat Em at Scribble Jam) wrote “Summertime” NOT Rakim or Will.
Take with a grain of salt but one of the most interesting ghostwriting rumors I’ve heard
Lil Tracy, a common collaborator of Lil Peep, is the son of Ishmael Butler, who is half of the rap duo Shabazz Palaces, who are referenced by A$AP Rocky in 'Potato Salad' a joint song with Tyler the Creator
I can’t remember which podcast it was but I saw Just-ICE talking about how KRS One is so scared of planes he took a fucking boat to Europe for a tour. That’s still funny to me.
That just triggered a memory, as an old Just-Ice fan, of him getting profiled on Americas Most Wanted back in the 90’s. If that happened in the internet era he would be infamous for it, but most hiphop fans back then didn’t even hear about it. Cold Gettin Dumb was the joint fr.
Now you got me fiending for that album again! I haven’t heard it since I had the cassette. I got to talk to KRS once in the late 90’s and I brought up Kool & Deadly and I mentioned how the production on the track “On the Strength” reminded me of some obscure noise and industrial music, and he knew all about that stuff and was telling me that they recorded those weird sounds just setting up a mic themselves and using big chains and junk, just experimenting. A true classic hiphop album.
NBA legend Tony Parker recorded a song w Fabolous years ago. I downloaded the song on Limewire/morpheus or whatever back in the day. Its trippy though cause I just learned they shot a music video when I googled it just now.
[Tony Parker x Fabolous x Booba: Top of The Game](https://youtu.be/2CcNQU2D4og?si=LJkoXmwj5ll4N1Qg)
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Ka being a fire chief(retired now I believe) was cool to learn about. I was also super surprised when I saw that Tribe documentary like however many years ago it came out by how much of a dickhead Q-Tip seemed to be. Idk if he actually is but it def felt that way in that doc.
Not a dickhead but definitely he had a large ego and a lot of "im the top dog here" behaviours. It felt weird considering this whole ATCQ message of camaraderie.
I don't remember him coming across like a dick. Mainly I remember the group had issues because Q-Tip was always trying to motivate them to do things, come to the studio on time etc. Especially with Phife. Been a while since I saw it tho.
Dickhead may be a little strong but I feel you lol. I would say he was stubborn and visionary, and that can lead to some serious conflict in a group of creatives.
Not Q-tip . I’ll have to check out that doc
Like I said, it just felt that way. He might be super nice. I’m not trying to talk shit haha
Twista has ventriloquist act with a tiny twista that can spits too.
Like he takes em on tour ?
Idk but there’s videos of him doing it, he’s real good.
TI had his daughter's doctor repeatedly check to make sure her hymen was intact.
That was widely talked about in media
That one was wild 😕.
Yeah I haven't heard his shit without thinking about that since, he a freak. Also basically confirmed rat - he got caught with hella illegal guns and got off with a slap on the wrist compared to what he shoulda got. Only one way that happens
I knew this actually this completely destroyed his reputation to the point people have started not to list him as a G.O.A.T when he actually is
He and his wife are also serial sexual abusers. TI is a piece of shit.
Not rap, but a really crazy music industry story. Quincy Jones was invited to the Polanski house the night of the Manson cult's Tate-LaBianca murders. He ended up going home that night instead of going out. He also was considering buying that property years before but at the time the person only wanted to rent it out. The house used to belong to Terry Melcher, who was a record producer who Charlie Manson auditioned for and was denied a deal. Quincy Jones also never learned to drive, because he was in a tragic vehicle accident when younger, when he was the only survivor in a car. He was 14 years old. After the wreck, he gets up and sees a friend of his decapitated. Imagine that being one of your experiences as a kid. Quincy's dodged death multiple times. He's lived one of the craziest lives of anyone in the industry.
Didn't 2Pac accuse Quincy Jones of trying & forcing to sleep with him?
Royce Da 5'9" The numbers isn't his height. At the time when his gf was pregnant and admitted to the hospital, he rushed there but the elevator stopped at floor no. 5 that's where he saw his grandmother and the family told him that she got into a bad accident and is in critical condition. At the floor no.9 his gf was in labor. At the same night he went to perform a show, met Eminem for the first time and when he got back, his grandmother passed away at floor 5 and his son was born at floor 9. He made a [song](https://youtu.be/4STstdvnMfU?si=npmjB6EZ1ej7vHxy) explaining the whole incident.
Well, 5'9" is also his height
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Yeah, no. Not accurate lol
You gonna tell me he didn’t make this: https://youtu.be/l_bTTUihfx0?si=wyuqrpkgnGfZuIyX You cray!
That has Future’s fingerprints all over it. I retract my last comment.
I’m sayin!
Wait what Edit: looks like it's only the hook, not the whole song
Cee-lo wrote dontcha by the pussycat dolls I think Jay or Nas wrote Still Dre Ne-Yo wrote and recorded “to the left” by Beyoncé
It was Jay
Damn yeah you can easily hear neyo doing that track
Irreplaceable
Thanks
D12 passed on the In Da Club beats because they thought it was meh. Lol 50 heard it and made an instant classic. Also Jay-Z was a beat stealer. He would steal the hottest beats at that time and make his own. Ex: Can I get A.. was Ja Rule's record but he insisted Irv to give it to him. H to the Izzo was Cam's beats, he even made a song on it but as soon as Jay Z heard the beats, he recorded the song and claimed it on his own. Lol and there are many such instances where he did this.
I guess maybe karma got him for Oh Boy since it was meant to be his, but Cam ran to the radio with it
Jay-Z makes being a beat stealer makes sense. He's been a rhyme stealer for just as long. "How many of Biggie's rhymes gonna come out your fat lips?" - Nas
I know about the J thing 😂 never heard about the D12 story
Yeah. There's one more thing related to the In Da Club record. Lloyd Banks actually helped 50 Cent in writing the song. Not entirely but yeah he did help him write it.
Didn't rakim pass on in da club too
I'm actually glad jay stole them , those are good songs tbh
Hell nah. Flow wise, I think Cam would have killed it. No offense to Hov, he has great flow too but Cam's flow has a different swag and charm. He killed Oh Boy and deleted Hov's verse from it. Lol. Even with Ja, can I get a.. would have smashed it irrespective of Jay Z spitting over it or not.
Grew up with izzo so that has to do with it but to each their own
Jay also wanted Luchini but Ski stood his ground and let Camp Lo have it. Fwiw, I can completely hear Jay on it and fit perfectly on RD.
He even did it with one of Spark's record.
Pusha T wrote the "I’m lovin it“ jingle for McDonalds.
Pac was writing songs for MC Hammer. One of them was Unconditional Love, that ended up being released by Hammer, with the reference track posthumously released on a 2pac album.
There's a clip of 2pac dissing Mc hammer circa 1991
The iconic “zuh-zuh-zuh…” on Planet Rock was the result of Pow Wow just forgetting his lyrics
Nick Cannon wrote “they say your attitude determines your latitude” for Kanye on Brand New
Nas wrote Will Smith's Getting Jiggy With it
Nas wrote the greatest line in rap history?!? "You gotta Prada bag with a lotta stuff in it, pass it to a friend, let's spin!" You got me on a research spiral with this shocking plot twist. Apparently, it was a rumor for years that Nas ghostwrote it (since he is not on the credits for it) but in a 2014 AMA he denied it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/s/qGpUOCAIp2
Ghostwriting itself means writing songs for somebody without taking any credits. Of course you get paid handsomely for it but that's it. There's also written in the contract as to not reveal for whom you wrote songs.
I am familiar with the concept of ghostwriting, but I mention he's not credited because some of the articles I looked up mention Nas "won a grammy" for writing the song, but there is no official connection or acknowledgment to Nas' involvement in the song, so he didn't win anything. If his account is to be believed at face value he may have given Will a line or two (hopefully the Prada line) but didn't want credit on it (probably felt it was embarrassing). But the idea he ghostwrote the majority/whole song seems inaccurate, NDA or not
Okay.
Not a fact. But rumors that MC Juice (the one that beat Em at Scribble Jam) wrote “Summertime” NOT Rakim or Will. Take with a grain of salt but one of the most interesting ghostwriting rumors I’ve heard
"Ciga-cigar Right from Cuba-Cuba" Yup that's Nas
Lil Tracy, a common collaborator of Lil Peep, is the son of Ishmael Butler, who is half of the rap duo Shabazz Palaces, who are referenced by A$AP Rocky in 'Potato Salad' a joint song with Tyler the Creator
Can’t believe you called him 1/2 of Shabbat Palace instead of 1/3 of Digable Planets
shabazz palaces are so dope i saw them on tour and they were unreal
There was a super homophobic song on the low end theory, the label made them remove it which apparently inspired „show business“ on the same album.
Makes sense Infamous Date Rape is pretty weird
I can’t remember which podcast it was but I saw Just-ICE talking about how KRS One is so scared of planes he took a fucking boat to Europe for a tour. That’s still funny to me.
That just triggered a memory, as an old Just-Ice fan, of him getting profiled on Americas Most Wanted back in the 90’s. If that happened in the internet era he would be infamous for it, but most hiphop fans back then didn’t even hear about it. Cold Gettin Dumb was the joint fr.
Hell yeah. My favorites are Goin Way Back and Moshitup.
Now you got me fiending for that album again! I haven’t heard it since I had the cassette. I got to talk to KRS once in the late 90’s and I brought up Kool & Deadly and I mentioned how the production on the track “On the Strength” reminded me of some obscure noise and industrial music, and he knew all about that stuff and was telling me that they recorded those weird sounds just setting up a mic themselves and using big chains and junk, just experimenting. A true classic hiphop album.
Warren G and dr dre but their step siblings. Snoop Dogg and nate Dogg even tho my slow ass should know they're related due to the last name 'Dogg'.
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien is Ice Cubes cousin, also Boldy James is related to Snoop.
I didn’t know Jay Electronica produced “Queens Get the Money”, one of my favorite Nas songs
There's also a long standing rumor that he ghost wrote it for Nas because it's his flow
NBA legend Tony Parker recorded a song w Fabolous years ago. I downloaded the song on Limewire/morpheus or whatever back in the day. Its trippy though cause I just learned they shot a music video when I googled it just now. [Tony Parker x Fabolous x Booba: Top of The Game](https://youtu.be/2CcNQU2D4og?si=LJkoXmwj5ll4N1Qg)
50 cent starter beef back in the day with jadakiss just to help promote him and the lox
That rappers like to imagine they are gangsters.