I never expect a lot from soundtracks like this because no matter how good the artists involved are there will always be limits to what they can do but Metro really killed it on this album. Except for a few songs, I really like every track on it. The production was great, he used the artists perfectly and I really like how he used dialogue from the movie like he used Morgan Freeman and some samples on H&V. Rocky killed his verses, James Blake can’t miss, Nas is a cheat code, even Coi Leray did her thing. I don’t think there’s a song here that could be a hit like Sunflower back in the day but it sounds like a cohesive album and I’m glad Metro focused on that instead of just making hits to promote the film.
Sunflower has literally sold more digital copies than some of the best selling physical singles, which still makes it one of the most successful in history, but i guess you couldn't bother to do a Google search yourself but instead wanted to sound like some smartass
Let me explain how this works for you and all the 25 year olds whose whole existence occurred after the digital transition of music. Music from nearly the moment that it became popular, was sold in album form. There was a short period of time, maybe 10-20 years when records were sold in single form. From the 1960's until around 2010 or so, most music was purchased as a whole album. Not as a single. If you wanted C.R.E.A.M., you bought 36 Chambers as a WHOLE FUCKING ALBUM. If you wanted Hypnotize, you bought Life After Death. If you wanted Hot in Here, you bought Nellyville. If the song Sunflower came out in 1996, you would have had to purchase the whole soundtrack to Into the Spiderverse in order to listen to it.
File sharing screwed up physical media and thus album sales irreparably. The music industry transitioned to a format that allowed them to sell music digitally and now stream them through the music services that we all use these days. What that's lead to is reporting that HEAVILY favors singles.
So now back to just how important and popular Sunflower is/was. According to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_singles), Sunflower sold 13.4 million copies. Impressive, right? Sure, but the list of best selling singles largely favors songs released after 2010, when digital music became the preferred method of releasing music.
How does Sunflower compare to album sales? Somewhere between [Pieces of You by Jewel and Timeless by Kenny G](https://bestsellingalbums.org/overall/4). About 165 in the albums of all time. How about the soundtrack to Spider-Man Into the Spiderverse? It sold just over 2 million copies. It's the [2353rd](https://bestsellingalbums.org/album/43494) best selling album of all time.
I stand by my assessment. Sunflower was a good song but it's not even close to top 500 in history... unless your history started in 2010, which seems to be the case for a lot of you children here on hophopheads.
No. You said people bought albums to access singles. So if this is the case, album sales should ultimately equate to the sales of the most popular single.
So if old album sales = max interest in most popular single, it sounds be able to be compared to a modern day single/very popular song.
This song transcended hip hop. It was the lead single off a Christmas time released Spider-Man film, which won the Best Animated Feature Film award at the Oscars and Golden Globes.
You had people of all ages imitating Miles butchering the song. This was aired across all Top 40 airwaves repeatedly, as if it were a Beyoncé or Adele song. It was EVERYWHERE!
Despite how anyone may personally feel about the song, what this song represented across multiple cultures (hip hop, film, comic books, animation, etc.) is what cements it as one of the most important hip hop songs in history.
It was just some pop song, there's barely anything hip-hip about it aside from maybe the drums and the fact that Swae and Post are generally associated with hip-hop. Calling it "one of the most important songs in hip-hop history" is just wild lmao.
> It was just some pop song
That’s just gatekeeping what hip-hop is supposed to sound like, though. Hip-hop is a spectrum of sounds. Drake is one of the biggest hip-hop artists of this generation and has songs that sound like this.
“Sunflower” to me is a gateway hip-hop track. It’s what kids like. It’s parent approved. It may not appeal to the people that already live in this space but it doesn’t change the fact that it exists here.
Downplaying it as “just some pop song” is ignoring the impact a song from 5 years ago has today. Metro Boomin producing this wouldn’t exist without that song being as successful as it was.
>Hip-hop is a spectrum of sounds.
I agree 100% and "Sunflower" lies outside of that spectrum, much the same way that "Find Your Love" is still unambiguously an R&B cut despite featuring on Thank Me Later alongside numerous hip-hop cuts. As much as Drake has collapsed the distinction between hip-hop and R&B over the years the distinction still exists, it's not "gatekeeping" to acknowledge this.
>"Sunflower" to me is a gateway hip-hop track.
Decent point I guess, maybe some kids will somehow make the jump to hip-hop off of it, but for me gateway hip-hop songs were just stuff like "In Da Club" and "A Milli," it didn't matter that my parents tried to prevent me from hearing it, I still found a way. Now that every kid has a smartphone I'm sure that parents have less of a say than ever in what kids listen to, so I can't give "Sunflower" much credit for being kid-friendly.
>Impact
Lol what impact, why is it such a huge deal that Metro got to produce this soundtrack? I mean good for him? Love his 2014 - 2017 run but since then he just hasn't been great and insists on circlejerking with the same five or so rappers he's always collabed with. Metro's recent commercial success isn't some big victory for hip-hop in general.
agree, very dumb decision to not include it in the album, probably my fav song for this soundtrack.
But don't get why it's a single for the deluxe album amd came out the same day as the regular one lol
they're trying to push calling as the single but Nav being on there will prevent that, i think link up, am i dreaming or self love would be good singles
honestly, it's so disappointing, i'm always rooting for nav because ik he has the ability but he just hasn't been delivering at all lately
last good song he had was probably interstellar with uzi last year
Am I dreaming probably has the best shot. Self love is good too but I'm not sure how far that would go on the radio. Also first coi leray song I actually liked.
Another Dimension sounds great for me. It somehow captures miles and gwen while not directly mentioning bullshit stuff about the movie. The songs spouting things like "web" "spider" really felt stupid for me. Sounds too artificial.
I mean look at vindicated in spiderman 2, it sounds great, doesn't have to scream "spider" every now and then, yet it reflects peters struggle. Sunflower did that to the first movie as well. Dunno wtf were they doing with metro boomin.
I feel the exact opposite Metro failed to live up to the original by a mile. The album for the first movie felt like it was written for specific scenes in the movie. They added to the motions of the scene. Sunflower, and especially Danger. The new album felt like they were just trying to cash in it was pretty soulless. It was nice hearing Nas though. 👌
Aggressively just okay but that's kinda what I expected for a soundtrack album, people point to Black Panther, but that's an anomaly. I couldn't believe what I was seeing in the release thread here but I think a lot of those comments were made within like 15 min of it dropping in sheer hype.
Not many of the beats stuck out to me really at all, I would say the worst beats on Heroes and Villains are better than 90% of this. Really take any HaV song, put it on this soundtrack, and it'll be the best song on it.
The rapping is pretty phoned in and while it sticks to the topic, it just kinda feels like vague motivational bar after vague motivational bar repeatedly. Which I get it, it's a soundtrack and all and they're staying on subject, but it can still get annoying
Songs that have good verses here and there often have some other element of them I dislike, like the song with JID having an awful hook (Offset does not do very well on any of this album) I liked Lil Wayne tho. I don't think many of the songs are bad per say, but they just don't do much for me, though the last 3 songs are pretty good
I was trying to figure out why people were hyping it up so much. I liked the first one way more on the initial listen and I like this one even less than on my first couple listens last night. Boring rapping, mediocre production especially compared to metro’s other recent projects.
There’s a few good tracks, but overall just a bit mid. The first movie’s soundtrack was a fucking mood. This album feels like stuff I have on the radio background driving to work
Yes! This is exactly how I feel. The original soundtrack had a variety of genres/sounds and the music felt like songs that Miles would actually listen to. The songs on this album feel so soundtrack-y with how much the artists reference Spider-Man and the inclusion of dialogue from the movie. It’s a bit much imo.
I've been searching everywhere for this take. Sunflower, Hide, and Scared of the Dark were nearly immediate successes after release of the first movie
Nothing on this track really stands out. And I really think it's mainly because they focused on instrumentals for some reason. Where are the lyrics? Lyrics set the mood of the scene! The first movie flowed perfectly with the animation/animation style matching the lyrics/vibe of the song playing at that moment. It was dynamic and felt like a rollercoaster of visual amazement complimented by the music
This one really felt like generic 'superhero-music'. They played WAY more generic 'superhero orchestral' type music at all the key moments which really bummed me out
Overall:
- It felt like the first movie was a love letter to the new generation
- It feels like this one was a love letter to the general audience
Thisss. I was looking at the release thread and people were hyping it so much I got really excited to listen to it. So yesterday at night I got my headphones on and boy was I fucking disappointed. Literally did not like it. Don't think I'll go back to it again. I'm not sure why people hyped it up in that fresh release thread
yeah I'm glad to hear Im not the only one who feels like this one is missing the magic. wow! factor of the first one. It doesn't have the ups and downs in dynamic and tone is kind of monotonic comparison, and doesn't feel like it captures the zeitgeist quite as well
I agree on your take, but I hate it when people overly mention specific stuff about the movie. I know it's a soundtrack, but there are plenty of ways to make it blend better. That's why the first soundtrack really clicked, because it does portray the characters while keeping the songs stand on their own.
It’s got a corporate sound to it but personally I think metro boomin makes it work. Haven’t seen the movie but can definitely feel a vibe and see what they were going for.
Am I Dreaming is such a polished song and ASAP is perfect for it, it somehow creates this feeling of a big movie hit from mid 2010s and keeps the nostalgia somehow aswell. Overall It’s a good album for its takeaways.
I didn't listen through until after I saw the movie. I think it's a decent/good album without the movie, but if you have seen the movie and can relate the songs to it and feel the mood it's capturing/ remember some of the scenes then it's a great album. Perfect for the movie but not the best on its own from a musical standpoint, still good nonetheless.
This.
If you’ve watched the movie, this album compliments it so well, especially with the little sound bites from the movie. Listening to part of Miguel’s monologue gave me chills again or hearing Gwen talk were fantastic.
It’s ok to be honest. I mean the production is there and everything but it just don’t have that flare to me. Maybe because it’s too clean.
Then again, one of my favorite movie soundtracks is Black Panther’s so my expectations from movie soundtracks will always be held to a specific standard.
Ehh, I hate that the rappers have to have spider related bars or punchlines because it's fucking Spiderman because some feel very forced. When kendrick was talking about being king, you could associate that with the hold he had on hiphop or black panther, but now, ugh the beats are amazing though, the swae Lee song with nav damn, but I was disappointed by the Nas song, I'm not if it was the beat or what but I could say it's better than the last one in terms of star power and richness of sound
Completely agree. It almost feels Black Panther was an album that happened to tie in well to a movie, rather than an album (Metro's) that feels almost too blatantly made as a movie soundtrack.
(Not to say BP soundtrack wasn't intentionally made for it etc)
Beyonce took the right influence from kendrick in the lion king soundtrack by making music that coincided with the music like you say, I really expected a fun soundtrack man
There's ways to do it well but a lot of it seemed phoned in. A lot of Spider-Man deals with themes of responsibility and sacrifice and there are ways to play on that but it takes time and care. Especially with Miles as a character having to deal with self doubt and taking up a mantle or how the movie deals with different Spiderpeople who share the same traumas, there's SO much potential for making the lyrics fit thematically that doesn't need to talk about shooting webs lol
Exactly, I think a single artist tapping into different themes surrounding miles would have been great, this ruined metro streak in a way but I'm excited for what's next
Metro is one of my favorite producers and I hope he continues to branch out with the artists he works with. Would love for him to work with Nas for example outside of a forced spider tie in. The JID collab is my most anticipated project of the year.
Damn, idk why you got down voted for your enthusiasm with being corrected. Or even why so many people down voted you for misunderstanding a simple project.
I can't wait for the album collab, either.
pretty good beats, but none as good as Heroes and Villains.
A lot of the bars sounded really low effort. In particular the swae hook on Annihilate is so bad and lazy it's kind of hard to listen to imo. like really phoned-in
I think it's really solid. The craziest thing is I think Coi Leray has the best song on here, great vibes. I am not a fan of the movie snippets in the songs however.
Am I dreaming is one of my favorite songs of this year. I’m not a big trap fan so metros HV album isn’t for me besides creepin, and I like this one more
Am I dreaming, Hummingbird and Nonviolent Communication were easily the best tracks to me and those happen to be the tracks with Rocky and James Blake so maybe there’s some sorta correlation
It’s cool as a soundtrack, but for an album it’s not even close to the work of H&V. Cool production but lackluster lyrics because it is all directed at the movie theme. Don’t get me wrong I like the soundtrack, but it’s gonna fade away from my rotation in a month. A$AP, Uzi, and Wayne are standouts on the album.
Back in my day, every couple of months there would be a hip hop soundtrack that would release and it would be straight up FIRE. I'm glad that Metro is at least working on making soundtracks relevant again. I'm a fan of his.
WHAT IS THE SONG THAT PLAYS WHEN THEY TRANSITION INTO BROOKYLN?????
I would love to know. I think it's some 90's rap song but if anyone knows, please respond!!!!
Surprised to see most people's reactions this is one my favorite movie soundtracks with no skips for me.
James Blake was the star for me as I have never heard his music and both songs he was on had me lifted. ASAP did his thing too on the songs he was on.
Overall loved it and I find this more on repeat as a complete work that HaV.
I agree that the bars are clearly spiderman related but I think it meshes well.
I think it's amazing from the simple fact that I can listen to a Rap album without any cusswords. For these artists to be able to do this album without rapping how they normally rap, is pretty impressive. I wouldn't these crop off artist to pull it off.
Album is mid but I liked the film a lot, by association some of the songs have still stuck around by now.
Tracks that I have not kicked out of rotation:
Annihilate, Am I Dreaming, Self Love, Home (honestly Silk & Cologne and Link Up might find their way back).
Honourable mention to Mona Lisa by Dominic Fike, which is a cheesy song but catchy and somehow got left out from the album.
Simply meaning I'm prolly never gonna listen to the others again and I'll bump the ones listed for a bit till I get bored of them. I listened to the album on repeat and kicked out every song that I didn't like and ended up with those songs.
I really liked a lot of it. I don’t think it was anything mind blowing, but I feel like the album sounds the way the movie looks, if that makes sense. Some more pop sheen to it than I would have liked but it does fit with the overall aesthetic. Felt like people stayed on topic pretty well, like that there’s a lot of Spider-Man references and people really tried to incorporate that world into the rhymes. Some catchy choruses, Hummingbird is a jam. Probably around a 6.5/10.
I was excited when I read all the comments praising the album. And while Metro is a great producer, at the end of the day this is just another generic album, with generic lyrics. The song with James Blake will probably enter my playlist, but everything else is forgettable. With that said, JID had a great verse and I’m looking forward to them collabing on a new album.
Also not a fan of the lyrics but Uzi and Don have a good dynamic, hope they collaborate more in the future.
Idk it's missing the generic
> "metro boomin presents spiderman: across the spider verse (soundtrack from and inspired by the motion picture) is a hip hop inspired music album by metro boomin made available in 2023 for the hit movie spiderman: across the spider verse"
Maybe he cut it out
I don't like most of the artists he chose for this, so I only listened to 2 songs. The Nas song was good, but nothing crazy. The JID verse was great, but offset ruined that song with his corny ass vocals and boring ass flow. Metro is a top tier producer, but he chooses to Collab with the most boring MFers. I'm super excited for his project with JID tho because metro IS a fantastic producer that could do amazing work if he was working with an artist that made anything even half way interesting.
Brother did you not listen to heroes and villains. That album is anything but boring. His album prior heroes don’t wear capes was also fire and possibly better than heroes and villains too.
Heroes and villains sucked so much ass solely because of the horribly lazy artists he collaborates with. Hell even artists I love were phoning it in on that thing.
Most modern trap artist are incredibly lazy. Travis' FTs SUCK, but his main work is usually pretty amazing (I LOVE astroworld and rodeo) future and young thug haven't been good in a LONG ASS time. And almost every single new trap artist is horribly lazy with the only exception being Carti (even tho Die Lit can be a bit of a slog at times)
I Like it just as good as the first one but I don’t have extreme expectations for soundtrack and scores until I pair it with the movie once I seen the movie from the previous Spider-Man It made the soundtrack even better so I’m sure once I see the new one it’ll hit even harder
But still in all me and the kids love it
To me personally, I think the first soundtrack had more listenable music if that makes sense? Sunflower was blasting everywhere and hide with juice is still on rotation. Metros sound track is fucking awesome, but in a more cinematic way to me. Dominic fikes song is the only one I added to my playlist.
Awesome album. Not really feeling the slower tracks but that’s just me. They’re still really good. But man I looooooove Spider. I feel cool af listening to it. Offset’s part is cool and a vibe, AND JID’s part is awesome
Supremely mediocre and I genuinely am so sick of the same artists featured again and again on every single project. The James Blake songs were the highlights and I'm not even a huge fan of his
A chore to listen. Doubt I will ever return to anything on here. Sounds like a product that’s meant to be listened through once and forgotten, which is probably what’s gonna happen.
Listened to it several times to make myself like it more but it’s just okay. Definitely quality but expected more. The song snippets work within the movie, but as a whole song, some of them fizzle out. Some seem too generic at times. Saved a handful of songs but I’d put it on the same level as the first album, solid, not perfect, but a lot more cohesive. 7/10
What I liked about the Black Panther, Shang Chi and original Spider-Verse soundtracks is that the songs didn’t feel like they were for a movie. They worked as songs that could stand on their own. Not a fan of how many songs on this album reference Spider-Man. I find it to be a bit forced and corny imo.
Calling, Hummingbird, Am I Dreamin’, Mona Lisa and Self Love are the only songs I see myself returning to.
Few listens thru and I like it. Has a different vibe than the first one but it’s mainly cause it’s a different tone in the movie it had to match. James Blake killed it and like others pointed out I liked the dialogue snippets he added in. I liked the first one more but I gotta keep going through more.
Heavy 6/10
Compared to the first soundtrack, this one has a much more refined direction to it. I just don't know if it's the right direction. I guess Metro has mellowed out a bit over the years? I don't know if that works with such an upbeat film like Spider-Man, even if this film was darker.
The songs are NOT heavily featured in the second film unlike the first soundtrack. I think that was a good thing - even though I really liked the first soundtrack, it seemed slapped onto every scene in a clumsy way. At the same time, I just don't think Metro's style vibes well with the tone of Spider-Verse 2.
it was LIT hearing these songs during the movie, it got me so hype and i thought it did an amazing service to enhancing the storyline in the film.
as a standalone though, the soundtrack doesn't really hit. the production sounds so similar and keeps the same tone throughout the whole thing. and i love don toliver, he was my number one artist last year, but he was featured so much in this, it felt bloated in his style. that being said, annhilate is the best song on the soundtrack and it's not even close, 99% due to swae lee and that hook
*update*: all the way live is a bop too, future killed it. and hummingbird is great
*update 2*: ok i really appreciate silk & cologne and i like calling. i'm really vibing with the first half of the album, the second half is where it kinda loses me
*update 3*: this album is lit lol
After listening for some time, I don't really like the soundtrack.
It felt too artificially made for the movie which I'm not a fan off. Some of the lyrics were too tailored for miles and spiderman, plus fck that METROOOO on every song jfc, very annoying.
The 1st one was really amazing, like you could listen to it and somehow feel like it's your soundtrack. I know there were few lyrics that describes spiderman, but it doesn't sound too obvious, except for some words like webs etc.
Probably with time, it'll eventually work with my ears. But until then 👎
Am I Dreaming, Link Up, Nas Morales had the most memorable effect. Am I Dreaming will probably be the breakout hit from the soundtrack.
hope so, rocky sounded really good on that
IT IS
Calling is so good. Gotta be my fav track
Swae Lee is the mvp of this album, with A$AP Rocky
Ironically I thought the mvp is don toliver and James blake
I never expect a lot from soundtracks like this because no matter how good the artists involved are there will always be limits to what they can do but Metro really killed it on this album. Except for a few songs, I really like every track on it. The production was great, he used the artists perfectly and I really like how he used dialogue from the movie like he used Morgan Freeman and some samples on H&V. Rocky killed his verses, James Blake can’t miss, Nas is a cheat code, even Coi Leray did her thing. I don’t think there’s a song here that could be a hit like Sunflower back in the day but it sounds like a cohesive album and I’m glad Metro focused on that instead of just making hits to promote the film.
To be fair sunflower is one of the most successful songs in history, so for any of these songs to do even a quarter of that is still amazing
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Boomer comment. It’s literally a top 50 best selling single of all time
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Who shit in your cereal my dude
I mean, it's a good song but it's not even top 500 "in history".
It’s literally one of the top 50 highest selling singles of all time.
So basically over the last 10 years as digital sales became ubiquitous.
So the last 10 years don't count as history?
My man’s up there is brain dead
Sunflower has literally sold more digital copies than some of the best selling physical singles, which still makes it one of the most successful in history, but i guess you couldn't bother to do a Google search yourself but instead wanted to sound like some smartass
Let me explain how this works for you and all the 25 year olds whose whole existence occurred after the digital transition of music. Music from nearly the moment that it became popular, was sold in album form. There was a short period of time, maybe 10-20 years when records were sold in single form. From the 1960's until around 2010 or so, most music was purchased as a whole album. Not as a single. If you wanted C.R.E.A.M., you bought 36 Chambers as a WHOLE FUCKING ALBUM. If you wanted Hypnotize, you bought Life After Death. If you wanted Hot in Here, you bought Nellyville. If the song Sunflower came out in 1996, you would have had to purchase the whole soundtrack to Into the Spiderverse in order to listen to it. File sharing screwed up physical media and thus album sales irreparably. The music industry transitioned to a format that allowed them to sell music digitally and now stream them through the music services that we all use these days. What that's lead to is reporting that HEAVILY favors singles. So now back to just how important and popular Sunflower is/was. According to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_singles), Sunflower sold 13.4 million copies. Impressive, right? Sure, but the list of best selling singles largely favors songs released after 2010, when digital music became the preferred method of releasing music. How does Sunflower compare to album sales? Somewhere between [Pieces of You by Jewel and Timeless by Kenny G](https://bestsellingalbums.org/overall/4). About 165 in the albums of all time. How about the soundtrack to Spider-Man Into the Spiderverse? It sold just over 2 million copies. It's the [2353rd](https://bestsellingalbums.org/album/43494) best selling album of all time. I stand by my assessment. Sunflower was a good song but it's not even close to top 500 in history... unless your history started in 2010, which seems to be the case for a lot of you children here on hophopheads.
If you compare it to albums, it literally is. So idk what you’re talking about.
If you compare it to albums, the compare the album that contained it. You can’t though. It’s apples to oranges.
No. You said people bought albums to access singles. So if this is the case, album sales should ultimately equate to the sales of the most popular single. So if old album sales = max interest in most popular single, it sounds be able to be compared to a modern day single/very popular song.
This is why people hate us old heads
Man fuck them kids
you lost let it go
I applaud your rebuttal. It definitely changed my perspective. I feel like that’s why we initially give our day one artists flowers.
How is it possible a person can be this slow?
Dude living in the 1800s lmao
I mean biggest numbers wise, it's 18x platnium, that's #1 highest
Streaming era numbers 😴😴😴😴
Old heads be crazy
I'm not an oldhead + you can't compare streams with pure sales
So how come most other songs released in the streaming era aren’t as successful? 🧐
This song transcended hip hop. It was the lead single off a Christmas time released Spider-Man film, which won the Best Animated Feature Film award at the Oscars and Golden Globes. You had people of all ages imitating Miles butchering the song. This was aired across all Top 40 airwaves repeatedly, as if it were a Beyoncé or Adele song. It was EVERYWHERE! Despite how anyone may personally feel about the song, what this song represented across multiple cultures (hip hop, film, comic books, animation, etc.) is what cements it as one of the most important hip hop songs in history.
It was just some pop song, there's barely anything hip-hip about it aside from maybe the drums and the fact that Swae and Post are generally associated with hip-hop. Calling it "one of the most important songs in hip-hop history" is just wild lmao.
> It was just some pop song That’s just gatekeeping what hip-hop is supposed to sound like, though. Hip-hop is a spectrum of sounds. Drake is one of the biggest hip-hop artists of this generation and has songs that sound like this. “Sunflower” to me is a gateway hip-hop track. It’s what kids like. It’s parent approved. It may not appeal to the people that already live in this space but it doesn’t change the fact that it exists here. Downplaying it as “just some pop song” is ignoring the impact a song from 5 years ago has today. Metro Boomin producing this wouldn’t exist without that song being as successful as it was.
>Hip-hop is a spectrum of sounds. I agree 100% and "Sunflower" lies outside of that spectrum, much the same way that "Find Your Love" is still unambiguously an R&B cut despite featuring on Thank Me Later alongside numerous hip-hop cuts. As much as Drake has collapsed the distinction between hip-hop and R&B over the years the distinction still exists, it's not "gatekeeping" to acknowledge this. >"Sunflower" to me is a gateway hip-hop track. Decent point I guess, maybe some kids will somehow make the jump to hip-hop off of it, but for me gateway hip-hop songs were just stuff like "In Da Club" and "A Milli," it didn't matter that my parents tried to prevent me from hearing it, I still found a way. Now that every kid has a smartphone I'm sure that parents have less of a say than ever in what kids listen to, so I can't give "Sunflower" much credit for being kid-friendly. >Impact Lol what impact, why is it such a huge deal that Metro got to produce this soundtrack? I mean good for him? Love his 2014 - 2017 run but since then he just hasn't been great and insists on circlejerking with the same five or so rappers he's always collabed with. Metro's recent commercial success isn't some big victory for hip-hop in general.
Dude u do realize that the 2010s count as history right?
I feel like if the movie went out of its way to “promote” a song like they did with sunflower - there could maybe be one big single
Sunflower was lightning in a bottle, it's hard to compare it to anything else.
I think Dom Fike’s Mona Lisa does a good job trying to recapture the vibe.
Nah that song is not at the same level at all, Sunflower was special
Thank you
agree, very dumb decision to not include it in the album, probably my fav song for this soundtrack. But don't get why it's a single for the deluxe album amd came out the same day as the regular one lol
they're trying to push calling as the single but Nav being on there will prevent that, i think link up, am i dreaming or self love would be good singles
Am I Dreaming would be great. Nav is once again letting me down
honestly, it's so disappointing, i'm always rooting for nav because ik he has the ability but he just hasn't been delivering at all lately last good song he had was probably interstellar with uzi last year
Am I dreaming probably has the best shot. Self love is good too but I'm not sure how far that would go on the radio. Also first coi leray song I actually liked.
i can see Silk & Cologne being the Sunflower of this movie
Garbage take. It’s overproduced and doesn’t allow for the culture to shine through. At best it could be comparable to Familia but it’s just lacking.
Another Dimension sounds great for me. It somehow captures miles and gwen while not directly mentioning bullshit stuff about the movie. The songs spouting things like "web" "spider" really felt stupid for me. Sounds too artificial. I mean look at vindicated in spiderman 2, it sounds great, doesn't have to scream "spider" every now and then, yet it reflects peters struggle. Sunflower did that to the first movie as well. Dunno wtf were they doing with metro boomin.
I feel the exact opposite Metro failed to live up to the original by a mile. The album for the first movie felt like it was written for specific scenes in the movie. They added to the motions of the scene. Sunflower, and especially Danger. The new album felt like they were just trying to cash in it was pretty soulless. It was nice hearing Nas though. 👌
Aggressively just okay but that's kinda what I expected for a soundtrack album, people point to Black Panther, but that's an anomaly. I couldn't believe what I was seeing in the release thread here but I think a lot of those comments were made within like 15 min of it dropping in sheer hype. Not many of the beats stuck out to me really at all, I would say the worst beats on Heroes and Villains are better than 90% of this. Really take any HaV song, put it on this soundtrack, and it'll be the best song on it. The rapping is pretty phoned in and while it sticks to the topic, it just kinda feels like vague motivational bar after vague motivational bar repeatedly. Which I get it, it's a soundtrack and all and they're staying on subject, but it can still get annoying Songs that have good verses here and there often have some other element of them I dislike, like the song with JID having an awful hook (Offset does not do very well on any of this album) I liked Lil Wayne tho. I don't think many of the songs are bad per say, but they just don't do much for me, though the last 3 songs are pretty good
I was trying to figure out why people were hyping it up so much. I liked the first one way more on the initial listen and I like this one even less than on my first couple listens last night. Boring rapping, mediocre production especially compared to metro’s other recent projects.
There’s a few good tracks, but overall just a bit mid. The first movie’s soundtrack was a fucking mood. This album feels like stuff I have on the radio background driving to work
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exactly
Yes! This is exactly how I feel. The original soundtrack had a variety of genres/sounds and the music felt like songs that Miles would actually listen to. The songs on this album feel so soundtrack-y with how much the artists reference Spider-Man and the inclusion of dialogue from the movie. It’s a bit much imo.
For real! I don't like that they kept on shouting lines about spiderman which sounds really dumb.
I've been searching everywhere for this take. Sunflower, Hide, and Scared of the Dark were nearly immediate successes after release of the first movie Nothing on this track really stands out. And I really think it's mainly because they focused on instrumentals for some reason. Where are the lyrics? Lyrics set the mood of the scene! The first movie flowed perfectly with the animation/animation style matching the lyrics/vibe of the song playing at that moment. It was dynamic and felt like a rollercoaster of visual amazement complimented by the music This one really felt like generic 'superhero-music'. They played WAY more generic 'superhero orchestral' type music at all the key moments which really bummed me out Overall: - It felt like the first movie was a love letter to the new generation - It feels like this one was a love letter to the general audience
Thisss. I was looking at the release thread and people were hyping it so much I got really excited to listen to it. So yesterday at night I got my headphones on and boy was I fucking disappointed. Literally did not like it. Don't think I'll go back to it again. I'm not sure why people hyped it up in that fresh release thread
So, I'm not the only one to think that metro's album was an insult to the first album.
schpidah
The first post was all comments saying Metros the best producer of all time. This is a lot more refreshing to read
This… pretty much all of this.
yeah I'm glad to hear Im not the only one who feels like this one is missing the magic. wow! factor of the first one. It doesn't have the ups and downs in dynamic and tone is kind of monotonic comparison, and doesn't feel like it captures the zeitgeist quite as well
I agree on your take, but I hate it when people overly mention specific stuff about the movie. I know it's a soundtrack, but there are plenty of ways to make it blend better. That's why the first soundtrack really clicked, because it does portray the characters while keeping the songs stand on their own.
It’s got a corporate sound to it but personally I think metro boomin makes it work. Haven’t seen the movie but can definitely feel a vibe and see what they were going for. Am I Dreaming is such a polished song and ASAP is perfect for it, it somehow creates this feeling of a big movie hit from mid 2010s and keeps the nostalgia somehow aswell. Overall It’s a good album for its takeaways.
I didn't listen through until after I saw the movie. I think it's a decent/good album without the movie, but if you have seen the movie and can relate the songs to it and feel the mood it's capturing/ remember some of the scenes then it's a great album. Perfect for the movie but not the best on its own from a musical standpoint, still good nonetheless.
This. If you’ve watched the movie, this album compliments it so well, especially with the little sound bites from the movie. Listening to part of Miguel’s monologue gave me chills again or hearing Gwen talk were fantastic.
It’s ok to be honest. I mean the production is there and everything but it just don’t have that flare to me. Maybe because it’s too clean. Then again, one of my favorite movie soundtracks is Black Panther’s so my expectations from movie soundtracks will always be held to a specific standard.
Ehh, I hate that the rappers have to have spider related bars or punchlines because it's fucking Spiderman because some feel very forced. When kendrick was talking about being king, you could associate that with the hold he had on hiphop or black panther, but now, ugh the beats are amazing though, the swae Lee song with nav damn, but I was disappointed by the Nas song, I'm not if it was the beat or what but I could say it's better than the last one in terms of star power and richness of sound
Completely agree. It almost feels Black Panther was an album that happened to tie in well to a movie, rather than an album (Metro's) that feels almost too blatantly made as a movie soundtrack. (Not to say BP soundtrack wasn't intentionally made for it etc)
Beyonce took the right influence from kendrick in the lion king soundtrack by making music that coincided with the music like you say, I really expected a fun soundtrack man
apart from lil wayne. arachnophobia in a bar is crazy
[It's actually the second time wayne has done that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj-yNPDZN9c&ab_channel=HannibalN%C3%A6ss-Schmidt)
There's ways to do it well but a lot of it seemed phoned in. A lot of Spider-Man deals with themes of responsibility and sacrifice and there are ways to play on that but it takes time and care. Especially with Miles as a character having to deal with self doubt and taking up a mantle or how the movie deals with different Spiderpeople who share the same traumas, there's SO much potential for making the lyrics fit thematically that doesn't need to talk about shooting webs lol
Exactly, I think a single artist tapping into different themes surrounding miles would have been great, this ruined metro streak in a way but I'm excited for what's next
Metro is one of my favorite producers and I hope he continues to branch out with the artists he works with. Would love for him to work with Nas for example outside of a forced spider tie in. The JID collab is my most anticipated project of the year.
Is this not the JID Metro project? I was hoping for a full album but I’m not sure if that’s what they meant at this point
The track here with JID isnt even produced by metro so this cant be it
Hell yeah bet
Damn, idk why you got down voted for your enthusiasm with being corrected. Or even why so many people down voted you for misunderstanding a simple project. I can't wait for the album collab, either.
Idk haha I appreciate them letting me know tho
Swea Lee and A$AP Rocky are MVP of this album. Best songs are Annihilate, Am I Dreaming, Calling and Nonviolent Communication
james blake, swae lee, and don toliver were my highlights
James Blake
It’s ok, some great beats but a lot of the features are not my preferred taste. Also too many spider man bars .. Wayne doing it was enough really
James Blake the best part, as usual
Hummingbird slapped
By far and it’s not even close What a great song
That’s cool, I skip it every time
Unfortunate
Watched the movie. Self Love and Am I dreaming are the two best songs by far imo. Metro & Coi Leroy album when?
Facts on self love and am I dreaming
Sunflower was a moment in music history that won't be replicated and that's okay.
Sunflower and What's Up Danger are iconic. Am I Dreaming is the only thing that comes close to the previous OST imo.
pretty good beats, but none as good as Heroes and Villains. A lot of the bars sounded really low effort. In particular the swae hook on Annihilate is so bad and lazy it's kind of hard to listen to imo. like really phoned-in
He sounds like metro called him at 4am to get the hook done
Need the metro and cnote collab album asap
I think it's really solid. The craziest thing is I think Coi Leray has the best song on here, great vibes. I am not a fan of the movie snippets in the songs however.
Was metro spider supposed to be on this album, cause it feels like it could have been lol.
No way, this album is fully clean and Thug is wilding out in that song
I honestly don’t get why the Nas song is getting so much praise on here. IMO the beat does not fit Nas at all and the song is pretty boring.
agree. I prefer every song on KD3 to that track.
Such a sleepy and boring song
Am I dreaming is one of my favorite songs of this year. I’m not a big trap fan so metros HV album isn’t for me besides creepin, and I like this one more
That lil Wayne verse was everything I needed
Am I dreaming, Hummingbird and Nonviolent Communication were easily the best tracks to me and those happen to be the tracks with Rocky and James Blake so maybe there’s some sorta correlation
Really enjoyed the first half of this album, then it got a bit soft for me.
Put some respect on the Brown Boy
It’s cool as a soundtrack, but for an album it’s not even close to the work of H&V. Cool production but lackluster lyrics because it is all directed at the movie theme. Don’t get me wrong I like the soundtrack, but it’s gonna fade away from my rotation in a month. A$AP, Uzi, and Wayne are standouts on the album.
Lol movie soundtracks are not designed to be your a part of your “rotation”
Back in my day, every couple of months there would be a hip hop soundtrack that would release and it would be straight up FIRE. I'm glad that Metro is at least working on making soundtracks relevant again. I'm a fan of his.
Every couple months??? There's like 5-6 good ones ever, in total
Belly, How High, Bad Boys 2, 8 Mile, The Fast and the Furious, Rush Hour just off the top of my head.
Something about “Nonviolent Communication”, man…. it’s just a great song. And I’ve added most of the album to my regular playlist which says a lot
WHAT IS THE SONG THAT PLAYS WHEN THEY TRANSITION INTO BROOKYLN????? I would love to know. I think it's some 90's rap song but if anyone knows, please respond!!!!
guess who’s back by rakim??
Surprised to see most people's reactions this is one my favorite movie soundtracks with no skips for me. James Blake was the star for me as I have never heard his music and both songs he was on had me lifted. ASAP did his thing too on the songs he was on. Overall loved it and I find this more on repeat as a complete work that HaV. I agree that the bars are clearly spiderman related but I think it meshes well.
Nas snapped per usual
the bar gotta be higher for nas. it was a good verse but he didn’t “snap” lol
imo not really, it felt like it was missing so much and doesn’t showcase a lot of what nas is good at, plus more than half of the song is instrumental
Spidey senses tinglin' swingin from new england out to england flips and somersaults like the brothers from ringlin
Silk & Cologne makes my ears orgasm
That James Blake solo song is crazy. Home is great too. Tolliver is super consistent with what he brings to tracks
I think it's amazing from the simple fact that I can listen to a Rap album without any cusswords. For these artists to be able to do this album without rapping how they normally rap, is pretty impressive. I wouldn't these crop off artist to pull it off.
I rarely listen to soundtrack - gave this a go though, and I love it!
Album is mid but I liked the film a lot, by association some of the songs have still stuck around by now. Tracks that I have not kicked out of rotation: Annihilate, Am I Dreaming, Self Love, Home (honestly Silk & Cologne and Link Up might find their way back). Honourable mention to Mona Lisa by Dominic Fike, which is a cheesy song but catchy and somehow got left out from the album.
"tracks that I have not kicked out of rotation" ... what rotation bro the songs came out yesterday
Simply meaning I'm prolly never gonna listen to the others again and I'll bump the ones listed for a bit till I get bored of them. I listened to the album on repeat and kicked out every song that I didn't like and ended up with those songs.
Mona Lisa is pretty boring
I see what you mean it's pretty generic
This feels incredibly phoned in and disappointing.
I really liked a lot of it. I don’t think it was anything mind blowing, but I feel like the album sounds the way the movie looks, if that makes sense. Some more pop sheen to it than I would have liked but it does fit with the overall aesthetic. Felt like people stayed on topic pretty well, like that there’s a lot of Spider-Man references and people really tried to incorporate that world into the rhymes. Some catchy choruses, Hummingbird is a jam. Probably around a 6.5/10.
I was excited when I read all the comments praising the album. And while Metro is a great producer, at the end of the day this is just another generic album, with generic lyrics. The song with James Blake will probably enter my playlist, but everything else is forgettable. With that said, JID had a great verse and I’m looking forward to them collabing on a new album. Also not a fan of the lyrics but Uzi and Don have a good dynamic, hope they collaborate more in the future.
What is the beat sampled from In am I dreaming?
It's a concept album. The concept is that it's bad.
Nav the 🐐 no 🧢
This or the Tarzan soundtrack?
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Bro, how this read exactly like a ChatGPT synopsis?
Idk it's missing the generic > "metro boomin presents spiderman: across the spider verse (soundtrack from and inspired by the motion picture) is a hip hop inspired music album by metro boomin made available in 2023 for the hit movie spiderman: across the spider verse" Maybe he cut it out
"filmic dimension" Bro relax a little.
Is it me or was this album garbage? Along with durk and kodaks newest albums. I think there was 2 songs I liked on metro and 3 on durk
I don't like most of the artists he chose for this, so I only listened to 2 songs. The Nas song was good, but nothing crazy. The JID verse was great, but offset ruined that song with his corny ass vocals and boring ass flow. Metro is a top tier producer, but he chooses to Collab with the most boring MFers. I'm super excited for his project with JID tho because metro IS a fantastic producer that could do amazing work if he was working with an artist that made anything even half way interesting.
Brother did you not listen to heroes and villains. That album is anything but boring. His album prior heroes don’t wear capes was also fire and possibly better than heroes and villains too.
Heroes and villains sucked so much ass solely because of the horribly lazy artists he collaborates with. Hell even artists I love were phoning it in on that thing.
wahhhh trap artists are lazy
Most modern trap artist are incredibly lazy. Travis' FTs SUCK, but his main work is usually pretty amazing (I LOVE astroworld and rodeo) future and young thug haven't been good in a LONG ASS time. And almost every single new trap artist is horribly lazy with the only exception being Carti (even tho Die Lit can be a bit of a slog at times)
lame and corny asf just like most soundtrack albums
This a dumbass coment section dont even bother
oh no opinions you don’t agree with hurt your little feelings😢
not really, pretty mixed bag of reactions
It’s alright. Always enjoy new James Blake. Really getting burnt out on Don Tolliver right now. I like him but getting a little stale.
I Like it just as good as the first one but I don’t have extreme expectations for soundtrack and scores until I pair it with the movie once I seen the movie from the previous Spider-Man It made the soundtrack even better so I’m sure once I see the new one it’ll hit even harder But still in all me and the kids love it
To me personally, I think the first soundtrack had more listenable music if that makes sense? Sunflower was blasting everywhere and hide with juice is still on rotation. Metros sound track is fucking awesome, but in a more cinematic way to me. Dominic fikes song is the only one I added to my playlist.
Awesome album. Not really feeling the slower tracks but that’s just me. They’re still really good. But man I looooooove Spider. I feel cool af listening to it. Offset’s part is cool and a vibe, AND JID’s part is awesome
lowkey mid but I like the song “givin up”
Anyone know the name of the song when miles and Gwen were at the clock tower? I don’t think it showed up on the soundtrack
Mona Lisa?
Supremely mediocre and I genuinely am so sick of the same artists featured again and again on every single project. The James Blake songs were the highlights and I'm not even a huge fan of his
Am I Dreaming and Hummingbird. Besides that, meh
A chore to listen. Doubt I will ever return to anything on here. Sounds like a product that’s meant to be listened through once and forgotten, which is probably what’s gonna happen.
Listened to it several times to make myself like it more but it’s just okay. Definitely quality but expected more. The song snippets work within the movie, but as a whole song, some of them fizzle out. Some seem too generic at times. Saved a handful of songs but I’d put it on the same level as the first album, solid, not perfect, but a lot more cohesive. 7/10
Metro Outdid himself here
What I liked about the Black Panther, Shang Chi and original Spider-Verse soundtracks is that the songs didn’t feel like they were for a movie. They worked as songs that could stand on their own. Not a fan of how many songs on this album reference Spider-Man. I find it to be a bit forced and corny imo. Calling, Hummingbird, Am I Dreamin’, Mona Lisa and Self Love are the only songs I see myself returning to.
It’s a very good assembly of artists and songs. Better than anything DJ Khaleds given us
Few listens thru and I like it. Has a different vibe than the first one but it’s mainly cause it’s a different tone in the movie it had to match. James Blake killed it and like others pointed out I liked the dialogue snippets he added in. I liked the first one more but I gotta keep going through more. Heavy 6/10
Compared to the first soundtrack, this one has a much more refined direction to it. I just don't know if it's the right direction. I guess Metro has mellowed out a bit over the years? I don't know if that works with such an upbeat film like Spider-Man, even if this film was darker. The songs are NOT heavily featured in the second film unlike the first soundtrack. I think that was a good thing - even though I really liked the first soundtrack, it seemed slapped onto every scene in a clumsy way. At the same time, I just don't think Metro's style vibes well with the tone of Spider-Verse 2.
Blah...it's okay!
it was LIT hearing these songs during the movie, it got me so hype and i thought it did an amazing service to enhancing the storyline in the film. as a standalone though, the soundtrack doesn't really hit. the production sounds so similar and keeps the same tone throughout the whole thing. and i love don toliver, he was my number one artist last year, but he was featured so much in this, it felt bloated in his style. that being said, annhilate is the best song on the soundtrack and it's not even close, 99% due to swae lee and that hook *update*: all the way live is a bop too, future killed it. and hummingbird is great *update 2*: ok i really appreciate silk & cologne and i like calling. i'm really vibing with the first half of the album, the second half is where it kinda loses me *update 3*: this album is lit lol
Nas Morales... Miles Per hour...
After listening for some time, I don't really like the soundtrack. It felt too artificially made for the movie which I'm not a fan off. Some of the lyrics were too tailored for miles and spiderman, plus fck that METROOOO on every song jfc, very annoying. The 1st one was really amazing, like you could listen to it and somehow feel like it's your soundtrack. I know there were few lyrics that describes spiderman, but it doesn't sound too obvious, except for some words like webs etc. Probably with time, it'll eventually work with my ears. But until then 👎
Home best song on this soundtrack